Compassion

Dantheman62 · 11-29-2009, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BROOK

I will have this thread deleted...it serves no purpose here

Don't delete it! Compassion is a great thing! I'll have compassion for the Chicago Bears after the Minnesota Vikings kick their butts today!! Go Vikes!
But I won't show compassion for nutcases like Benjamin (full of it) Fulford, or Bill (the Beagle) Deagle, because they're misleading people with their hogwash. So I guess I'm riding the compassion fence, LOL

GaiaLove · 11-29-2009, 05:56 PM

Brook has requested this thread to be deleted, the past couple posts were positive and in alignment with her original intent so for now i'll leave it and see.

BROOK · 11-29-2009, 06:35 PM

I suppose as long as it remains in the interest of compassion...leave it. It has been requested me three times, not to remove it..so let it stand.

Lionhawk · 11-29-2009, 07:23 PM

And that is an act of compassion!

Many Blessings to you Brook!

waitinginthewings · 11-29-2009, 08:13 PM

By The Mahayanasutralankara, by Ven. Bhikkhu Bodhi

mudra · 11-29-2009, 09:22 PM

Thank you for this thread Brook

"An essential method to begin acting with compassion is to transform negative thoughts into positive ones. A positive attitude goes a long way to help achieve this. Jealousy, envy, hate, anger, and making snap judgments against people just because they are different from us... these are examples of some negative attitudes that must be adjusted into positive ones to promote compassion. When we quit letting ourselves be ruled so much by those negative attitudes, we not only find it easier to practice compassion, but we also find that we receive a surprising amount of compassion, as well. We all need compassion in our lives to some extent. Practicing it is a sure way to “reap what you sow.”

from the book of Marie Claire Wilson " Compassion in Budhism "

Love Always
mudra

mudra · 11-29-2009, 09:26 PM

The Buddha taught the following to his son Rahula

"Rahula, practice loving kindness to overcome anger. Loving kindness has the capacity to bring happiness to others without demanding anything in return.
Practice compassion to overcome cruelty. Compassion has the capacity to remove the suffering of others without expecting anything in return.
Practice sympathetic joy to overcome hatred. Sympathetic joy arises when one rejoices over the happiness of others and wishes others well-being and success.
Practice non-attachment to overcome prejudice. Non-attachment is the way of looking at all things openly and equally. This is because that is. Myself and others are not separate. Do not reject one thing only to chase after another.
I call these the four immeasurables. Practice them and you will become a refreshing source of vitality and happiness for others."

Love Always
mudra

bushycat · 11-29-2009, 10:11 PM

And we can have compassion for ourselves: " I was walking blind for so long, but I have made it to here" "The way I responded yesterday is not the way I respond today because of where I am now on my path." " I am in Love now and also have great compassion for ones still walking blind. "

Nice thread, Brook. Thank you.

Love Always,
Bushycat

morguana · 11-29-2009, 11:22 PM

When I focus my self on compassion, I come up with love :
Bou x

mudra · 11-30-2009, 01:46 AM

"All the peace and happiness of the whole globe,
the peace and happiness of societies,
the peace and happiness of family,
the peace and happiness in the individual persons' life,
and the peace and happiness of even the animals and so forth,
all depends on having loving kindness toward each other."

Lama Zopa Rinpoche

Love Always
mudra

BROOK · 11-30-2009, 02:41 AM

Have you run into somebody lately who was in pain? someone who's world was somehow rocked by a major event in their life?

And did you show them compassion? or did you side step the subject, so as not to inflict any more pain?

I know I have...I did not want to bring anything up in those instances as it is awkward, and again might cause further pain.

Today I was helping a lady whose husband had just died...I was helping her sort an affair, that would ease things for her. I was in no way obligated to discuss the subject of her husbands death. Just the matters at hand.

I told her that I was sorry for her loss...and asked if there was anything else I could do to help. she said, no she was fine with what I had done so far. but then she started talking about her loss, and you could see in her face that she wanted to talk about it, because everybody else around her was side stepping the subject. It was a look of relief, that she had someone to talk to about it with. And she talked for about 20 minutes, about the actual event of losing her husband. He had had cancer, and it was painfully slow for her to watch, let alone go through. she did not cry..she just needed to talk. She was craving compassion..and was not getting it from the ones around her, as they were afraid to broach the subject.

This is just one way we, myself included..can reach out and show compassion...it really does heal

Lionhawk · 11-30-2009, 02:58 AM

Yes Mudra you can be compassionate about many separate things, but in my original mind, to be truly compassionate, one doesn't segregate with duality. "True compassion embraces all that is." It is that simple and there is no need to separate it to define it as it is a state of being that embraces all that is. You can be however compassionate about something but that is a program that operates from the template of duality. Not oneness and any one is welcomed to quote me on that.

Again, TRUE COMPASSION EMBRACES ALL THAT IS!

How's that for originality?

Compassionately,

Lionhawk

mudra · 11-30-2009, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lionhawk

y one is welcomed to quote me on that.

Again, TRUE COMPASSION EMBRACES ALL THAT IS!

How's that for originality?

Compassionately,

Lionhawk

Indeed LionHawk you are right ...I call it Love in my own words ..as Love has no boundaries .

Love from me
mudra

BROOK · 03-10-2010, 04:53 AM

An individual is capable of both great
compassion and great indifference.
He has it within his means to nourish the
former and outgrow the latter

Anchor · 03-10-2010, 05:04 AM

Nice thread - nice quotes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BROOK

An individual is capable of both great compassion and great indifference. He has it within his means to nourish the former and outgrow the latter

This is a nice quote from someone called Norman Cousins.

Here is another good one I found: "The dew of compassion is a tear...." - Lord Byron.

The opening paragraph of the original post is I beleive is a quote from Arthur Jersild

And one I really like:

"Out of compassion I destroy the darkness of their ignorance. From within them I light the lamp of wisdom and dispel all darkness from their lives...." - Bhagavad Gita.

AJ..

BROOK · 03-10-2010, 05:17 AM

A fitting time for the message, don't you think Anchor?

Anchor · 03-10-2010, 05:30 AM

Always.

There is never a time when compassion should be placed on hold.

AJ..

wynderer · 03-18-2010, 11:31 PM

compassion
mid-14c., from O.Fr. compassion, from L.L. compassionem (nom. compassio) "sympathy," from compassus, pp. of compati "to feel pity," from com- "together" + pati "to suffer" (see passion). Loan-translation of Gk. sympatheia.

i.e., compassion means 'to suffer together,' 'to suffer with' -- anyone living on Earth now who is burdened w/compassion knows it is no fun -- it is definitely not a path to escape to the 'love & light' realms where it's 'all good'

Peace & Freedom, wynderer

Carol · 03-19-2010, 12:46 AM

Good gad! Brook is in the Mists!

This forum is like being around a dysfunctional family who refuses to discuss the elephant sitting in the middle of the living room.

What is wrong with you guys?

wynderer · 03-19-2010, 01:59 AM

sorry -- i don't know what 'in the mists' is -- it seems to me that the two forums here are going bonkers like the world in general is --

Peace & Freedom, wynderer

greybeard · 03-19-2010, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wynderer

sorry -- i don't know what 'in the mists' is -- it seems to me that the two forums here are going bonkers like the world in general is --

Peace & Freedom, wynderer

Morning
In the mist is when you are disallowed from posting through some real or imagined infringement of the rules.

Yes the whole world is crazy at the moment, I put it down to a change in energy.
Assuming, lets say it is true that we are one with Mother earth.
Recently we have had at least two major earth quakes with much loss of life, it is no wonder that we are unsettled vibrationally.

Compassion is the greatesf form of love.
Lets show so some for those who are sensitve and therfore reactive at the moment.
There is no right or wrong as such.
Appropriate or not so appropriate may be a better way of looking at recent posts.

Relax my friends the ripples are dying down if we let them.

Chris

aloha · 03-19-2010, 08:32 AM

"When we have complete ease and perceptual openness in all our
experiences—especially the negative ones—then we find a superb
helpfulness already present within us, which like the sun, is always
shining. There’s a natural ease of being in which no one is a stranger.
Compassion never needs to be cultivated or developed—it is always
naturally present in awareness. In fact, compassion is equal to
awareness and can only be found in awareness. The compassion that
can be cultivated and developed is lifeless compared to the
unstoppable compassion that shows no bias. True compassion is totally
innocent and totally free. We can become acquainted with this
compassion only by seeing that awareness has complete mastery over
everything that appears in our thoughts, emotions, and experiences."

"Just as the lotus arises out of the mud but is completely
unaffected by the mud, the beautiful flower of compassion appears out
of our deepest, darkest emotions, thoughts, and experiences."

wynderer · 03-19-2010, 11:12 AM

Chris -- thanks for explaining what 'in the mists' is -- this confirms my impression that the bonkers factor is affecting these forums ---

there seem to be two subsets of posts by many of the same posters -- high-sounding spiritual tidbits, & then a lot of quarrelling

Sun Bear used to say that 'if your philosophy doesn't grow corn, i don't want to hear about it' -- i guess we're all going to get the chance soon to see just how much corn our philiosophies grow -- the Earth changes alone will give us all a great chance to see just how loving & compassionate we all really are

Pracr & Freedom, wynderer

Seashore · 03-19-2010, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wynderer

Sun Bear used to say that 'if your philosophy doesn't grow corn, i don't want to hear about it' -- i guess we're all going to get the chance soon to see just how much corn our philiosophies grow -- the Earth changes alone will give us all a great chance to see just how loving & compassionate we all really are

Thank you.

Very meaningful!

BROOK · 03-19-2010, 04:50 PM

Well, I'm out of the dog house now, and allowed in the house again....and I will admit I got a bit strong...and pasionate about my opinions...however I will be a good girl from now on....I promise

Thanks for all the emails I got from those who cared about me. But here I am...safe and sound

Albert Einstein once said "A fellow who does things that count, doesn't usually stop to count them."

And that was my misting downfall...next time I wll be more careful to count them, and see if it is worth the time to count.

After all, I'm sure out of the 3000 plus posts I've done here..I must have said something worth listening to I did have some passion when writing the vortex 19.47 thread....not confrontational at all...check it out..and see if you can figure out how to map the universe with sacred geometry...now that's a challange

11-29-2009, 05:56 PM	#2
GaiaLove Avalon Administrator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North of 45° in Canada Posts: 511	Re: Compassion Brook has requested this thread to be deleted, the past couple posts were positive and in alignment with her original intent so for now i'll leave it and see. __________________ Richard "For those with their eyes shut, no explanation will suffice. For those with their eyes open, no explanation is necessary." Click here to chat LIVE with other members of Avalon

11-29-2009, 06:35 PM	#3
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Compassion I suppose as long as it remains in the interest of compassion...leave it. It has been requested me three times, not to remove it..so let it stand.

11-29-2009, 07:23 PM	#4
Lionhawk Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sol, Terra 3, Florida, USA Posts: 329	Re: Compassion And that is an act of compassion! Many Blessings to you Brook!

11-29-2009, 08:13 PM	#5
waitinginthewings Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BC. Canada Posts: 1,340	Part 1 of 5 The Practice of Compassion By The Mahayanasutralankara, by Ven. Bhikkhu Bodhi

11-29-2009, 09:22 PM	#6
mudra Avalon Spiritual Mother Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: belgium Posts: 4,919	Re: Part 1 of 5 The Practice of Compassion Thank you for this thread Brook "An essential method to begin acting with compassion is to transform negative thoughts into positive ones. A positive attitude goes a long way to help achieve this. Jealousy, envy, hate, anger, and making snap judgments against people just because they are different from us... these are examples of some negative attitudes that must be adjusted into positive ones to promote compassion. When we quit letting ourselves be ruled so much by those negative attitudes, we not only find it easier to practice compassion, but we also find that we receive a surprising amount of compassion, as well. We all need compassion in our lives to some extent. Practicing it is a sure way to “reap what you sow.” from the book of Marie Claire Wilson " Compassion in Budhism " Love Always mudra Last edited by mudra; 11-29-2009 at 09:27 PM.

11-29-2009, 09:26 PM	#7
mudra Avalon Spiritual Mother Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: belgium Posts: 4,919	Re: Part 1 of 5 The Practice of Compassion The Buddha taught the following to his son Rahula "Rahula, practice loving kindness to overcome anger. Loving kindness has the capacity to bring happiness to others without demanding anything in return. Practice compassion to overcome cruelty. Compassion has the capacity to remove the suffering of others without expecting anything in return. Practice sympathetic joy to overcome hatred. Sympathetic joy arises when one rejoices over the happiness of others and wishes others well-being and success. Practice non-attachment to overcome prejudice. Non-attachment is the way of looking at all things openly and equally. This is because that is. Myself and others are not separate. Do not reject one thing only to chase after another. I call these the four immeasurables. Practice them and you will become a refreshing source of vitality and happiness for others." Love Always mudra

11-29-2009, 10:11 PM	#8
bushycat Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 442	Re: Compassion And we can have compassion for ourselves: " I was walking blind for so long, but I have made it to here" "The way I responded yesterday is not the way I respond today because of where I am now on my path." " I am in Love now and also have great compassion for ones still walking blind. " Nice thread, Brook. Thank you. Love Always, Bushycat

11-29-2009, 11:22 PM	#9
morguana Project Avalon Moderator Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: sussex, uk Posts: 1,137	Re: Compassion When I focus my self on compassion, I come up with love : Bou x __________________ better than a thousand hollow words is one word that brings peace the way is not in the sky, the way is in the heart forum guidlines Avalon Chat

11-30-2009, 01:46 AM	#10
mudra Avalon Spiritual Mother Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: belgium Posts: 4,919	Re: Compassion "All the peace and happiness of the whole globe, the peace and happiness of societies, the peace and happiness of family, the peace and happiness in the individual persons' life, and the peace and happiness of even the animals and so forth, all depends on having loving kindness toward each other." Lama Zopa Rinpoche Love Always mudra

11-30-2009, 02:41 AM	#11
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Compassion Have you run into somebody lately who was in pain? someone who's world was somehow rocked by a major event in their life? And did you show them compassion? or did you side step the subject, so as not to inflict any more pain? I know I have...I did not want to bring anything up in those instances as it is awkward, and again might cause further pain. Today I was helping a lady whose husband had just died...I was helping her sort an affair, that would ease things for her. I was in no way obligated to discuss the subject of her husbands death. Just the matters at hand. I told her that I was sorry for her loss...and asked if there was anything else I could do to help. she said, no she was fine with what I had done so far. but then she started talking about her loss, and you could see in her face that she wanted to talk about it, because everybody else around her was side stepping the subject. It was a look of relief, that she had someone to talk to about it with. And she talked for about 20 minutes, about the actual event of losing her husband. He had had cancer, and it was painfully slow for her to watch, let alone go through. she did not cry..she just needed to talk. She was craving compassion..and was not getting it from the ones around her, as they were afraid to broach the subject. This is just one way we, myself included..can reach out and show compassion...it really does heal Last edited by BROOK; 11-30-2009 at 02:45 AM.

11-30-2009, 02:58 AM	#12
Lionhawk Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sol, Terra 3, Florida, USA Posts: 329	Re: Compassion Yes Mudra you can be compassionate about many separate things, but in my original mind, to be truly compassionate, one doesn't segregate with duality. "True compassion embraces all that is." It is that simple and there is no need to separate it to define it as it is a state of being that embraces all that is. You can be however compassionate about something but that is a program that operates from the template of duality. Not oneness and any one is welcomed to quote me on that. Again, TRUE COMPASSION EMBRACES ALL THAT IS! How's that for originality? Compassionately, Lionhawk

03-10-2010, 04:53 AM	#14
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Compassion *An individual is capable of both great* *compassion and great indifference.* *He has it within his means to nourish the* *former and outgrow the latter*

03-10-2010, 05:17 AM	#16
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Compassion A fitting time for the message, don't you think Anchor?

03-10-2010, 05:30 AM	#17
Anchor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 2,280	Re: Compassion Always. There is never a time when compassion should be placed on hold. AJ..

03-18-2010, 11:31 PM	#18
wynderer Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: FingerLakes, USA Posts: 89	Re: Compassion compassion mid-14c., from O.Fr. compassion, from L.L. compassionem (nom. compassio) "sympathy," from compassus, pp. of compati "to feel pity," from com- "together" + pati "to suffer" (see passion). Loan-translation of Gk. sympatheia. i.e., compassion means 'to suffer together,' 'to suffer with' -- anyone living on Earth now who is burdened w/compassion knows it is no fun -- it is definitely not a path to escape to the 'love & light' realms where it's 'all good' Peace & Freedom, wynderer

03-19-2010, 12:46 AM	#19
Carol Project Avalon Hero Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Big Island, Hawaii Posts: 2,008	Re: Compassion Good gad! Brook is in the Mists! This forum is like being around a dysfunctional family who refuses to discuss the elephant sitting in the middle of the living room. What is wrong with you guys? __________________ Aloha, thank you, do jeh, toda, arigato, merci, grazie, salamat po, gracias, tack, sukria, danke schoen, kiitos, dank u, mahalo nui loa Images to nourish the spirit: http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...&showtopic=198

03-19-2010, 01:59 AM	#20
wynderer Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: FingerLakes, USA Posts: 89	Re: Compassion sorry -- i don't know what 'in the mists' is -- it seems to me that the two forums here are going bonkers like the world in general is -- Peace & Freedom, wynderer

03-19-2010, 08:32 AM	#22
aloha Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 41	Re: Compassion "When we have complete ease and perceptual openness in all our experiences—especially the negative ones—then we find a superb helpfulness already present within us, which like the sun, is always shining. There’s a natural ease of being in which no one is a stranger. Compassion never needs to be cultivated or developed—it is always naturally present in awareness. In fact, compassion is equal to awareness and can only be found in awareness. The compassion that can be cultivated and developed is lifeless compared to the unstoppable compassion that shows no bias. True compassion is totally innocent and totally free. We can become acquainted with this compassion only by seeing that awareness has complete mastery over everything that appears in our thoughts, emotions, and experiences." "Just as the lotus arises out of the mud but is completely unaffected by the mud, the beautiful flower of compassion appears out of our deepest, darkest emotions, thoughts, and experiences."

03-19-2010, 11:12 AM	#23
wynderer Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: FingerLakes, USA Posts: 89	Re: Compassion Chris -- thanks for explaining what 'in the mists' is -- this confirms my impression that the bonkers factor is affecting these forums --- there seem to be two subsets of posts by many of the same posters -- high-sounding spiritual tidbits, & then a lot of quarrelling Sun Bear used to say that 'if your philosophy doesn't grow corn, i don't want to hear about it' -- i guess we're all going to get the chance soon to see just how much corn our philiosophies grow -- the Earth changes alone will give us all a great chance to see just how loving & compassionate we all really are Pracr & Freedom, wynderer

03-19-2010, 04:50 PM	#25
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Compassion *Well, I'm out of the dog house now, and allowed in the house again....and I will admit I got a bit strong...and pasionate about my opinions...however I will be a good girl from now on....I promise* *Thanks for all the emails I got from those who cared about me. But here I am...safe and sound* *Albert Einstein once said "A fellow who does things that count, doesn't usually stop to count them."* *And that was my misting downfall...next time I wll be more careful to count them, and see if it is worth the time to count.* After all, I'm sure out of the 3000 plus posts I've done here..I must have said something worth listening to I did have some passion when writing the vortex 19.47 thread....not confrontational at all...check it out..and see if you can figure out how to map the universe with sacred geometry...now that's a challange Last edited by BROOK; 03-19-2010 at 05:11 PM.