Attributes of the Soul Level of Consciousness

[Carmen]

Thanks for the contributions here. eXchanger, those comparisons are very true. Fourth dimentional couples are whole people hanging out together, enjoying each others company and learning. Three D people in relationships appear to be half of a whole, each one needing the other in some capacity or other! Trouble is, when one moves into fourth level consciousness, the deals off! They cannot relate to one another. The one remaining in 3D either moves also or they split.

Love

Carmen

[Carmen]

Another experience that happens when we access the fourth level of consciousness is that we start to remember, or we have a sort of 'bleed through' of past life memory.

This can come randomly or in response to a question we may have. Some attitude or belief we have that seems not true, or our of line with our 'now' life.

For instance, I had a feeling of great relief and freedom when I went away from home. I never wanted a cell phone because I did not want to be contacted (found) and I certainly did not call often to see how everyone was at home, which is sort of normal for mothers with children. Not me, I was off and I didnt want to be found!! Also, I would have a dread of going home. Even my grown son remembers when he was with me as a child, speeding away from home and the car getting slower and slower on the return journey!!

One day, a few years ago, I asked within the "why" of this behaviour. Home was fine usually, when I did arrive home, so this feeling or behaviour did not add up. Well, I got my answer a few days or maybe a week or so later. I was looking after my young granddaughter. I spent quite a bit of time driving her places as she was missing her parents and driving was one thing that made her happy or put her to sleep!

I started having visions that lasted three days. They revealed the last life that I had had with my husband. It was a very harrowing life of having been a slave girl or lessor wife of a powerful sheik (my husband) I was used and abused, had children as a young teen and they were kept from me but used so that I would not run away. So many of the people in my life now were from that time. The whole experience was like keys in a lock, unlocking. The experience answered so many questions.

I realized that through that life a great hatred and fear was born in me that has taken many lives to reach a wisdom that could heal that life. I must have somehow chosen or disserved that life. Nothing happens by chance. The whole vision experience was soo fascinating. It enabled me to move on hugely, to understand, to grow and to heal.

Love

Carmen

[Carmen]

Fourth level consciousness, is open and truthful. It does not worry about revealing truths about itself because it does not seek the approval of others. Fourth level entities have spent a long time digging into their own subconscious realm to find attitudes and 'stuff' that have limited them. They are unafraid of the dark because they have dug it out from within them and brought it to understanding and wisdom. They continue to do this for as long as it takes to be free of it.

What others think of us is really nothing to do with us! What we think of ourselves is what matters. Approval is an inside job. If we are constantly seeking for outside approval we are never really happy. We find ourselves living for everyone else and not for ourselves!

The funny thing is that when we do start living for ourselves and are own Inner Approval, then we do seem to be approved by those outside of us. We then allow others around us to do the same. What we give/allow ourselves, we automaticaly extend to friends and family around us. This is freedom of the spirit and is the gift we give to ourselves and others. Its a delightful prerequisite of spiritual growth and evolution.

Love

Carmen

[Gnosis5]

Hello Carmen,

Also to contribute to that thought, in the Michael Teachings it is understood that "Old Souls" do not always have the same sticky connection to family members.

About past lives, it seems the second half of my life is one of my better career moves was making a decision to uncover more truths about myself and about this planet of people and that of course takes me into many many past lives that still needed to be truthfully reviewed and thus resolved.

I have worked out a good relationship with one clearing practitioner and together we have walked me backwards until there weren't even any suns or planets yet formed, before the "square" was invented even. Yes, it appears that circles came before squares, at least in my own part of the universe.

The decisions I made when I decided to make a distinction between unindividuated potential and actual energy producing potential brought me to here today. I am clearing all the decisions that I decided to place on automatic -- clearing the automatic function to be more exact.

The whole schema comes apart in addressing past life cycles this way and one has the potential to once again be that simple (but wiser) Pure Potential.

I shouldn't speak as if this is the way for everyone because the process I use is purely my own subjective exploration and only through perhaps one facet.

The cool part is that my hyperhistory starts before etheric bodies, before multiple dimensions (dementias) and densities and evil beings and complexity of games and social structures, bodies, all of that gets cleared away the further back I go.

The cool part is that I actually see the truth of my own participation in creating these structures and games. You know what the neatest thing is? As soon as I can see and know and own up to my part or participation in creating or continuing these games systems that is when they lose their hold on me.

I am once again free to paint a new picture with full freedom of expression.

That is of course an ideal scene because I am still doing my clearing work and I know I have not yet practically attained to full freedom of expression.

Thanks for listening and "duplicating".

love ya,
gnosis

[Carmen]

Indeed Gnosis, it is a rich tapestry we have woven and continue to weave.

[Jonah]

The decisions I made when I decided to make a distinction between unindividuated potential and actual energy producing potential brought me to here today. I am clearing all the decisions that I decided to place on automatic -- clearing the automatic function to be more exact.

The whole schema comes apart in addressing past life cycles this way and one has the potential to once again be that simple (but wiser) Pure Potential.

I shouldn't speak as if this is the way for everyone because the process I use is purely my own subjective exploration and only through perhaps one facet.
gnosis[/QUOTE]

thats very beautiful gnosis. your tone sounds familiar to me. blessings

[Carmen]

The more Clearing we do, the clearer are our views. We clean the windows of our soul!

Then we are left with the Joy of Spirit. We keep our windows clean and the sparkling Light Shines through.

Love

Carmen

[Carmen]

Another attribute of the Soul level of consciousness is that the sexual energy that used to sit in the first seal, mostly, permeates the entire body. The body is filled with a delicious sensual/sexual feeling. One of melting Love of All that Is.

Love and Light

Carmen

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Carmen

Another attribute of the Soul level of consciousness is that the sexual energy that used to sit in the first seal, mostly, permeates the entire body. The body is filled with a delicious sensual/sexual feeling. One of melting Love of All that Is.

Love and Light

Carmen

I have a friend who is a living example of that and I am speechless with wonder. We know that each one of us is quite wonderful in our own way, but so different in our paths to Nirvana. I'm sure I could use a little bit of her delicious sensual/sexual feeling instilled within myself, but the best I can manage is a large scale compassion and agonizing over what is the best strategy to gain the most leverage using the tools I have in the seemingly short time I have.

If you were going to help heal the world in the shortest period of time what group or person(s) would you work with first, assuming you can reach any group or person(s) you desire? Of course family comes first.

[powerviolence]

Carmen, from all my research, I was under the impression that 4th density life wouldn't still be threedimensional, in other words that you would ascend from this 3rd density life to a new realm that can't be seen/explained in our 3rd density terms, and that if you did stay in 3rd density as a 4th density being, you would unlock supernatural powers such as telepathy, clairvoyance, etc.. I've always believed that's what 4th density meant, that we would truly 'advance' to the next level, not just stay in 3rd density albeit very enlightened and very full of love, I thought the shift from 3rd to 4th density would be massive and radical and it would probably mean the end of our 3rd reality self, that's what I gathered from the Hidden Hand's testimony and the Law of One in which the harvest and ascension were explained, of course I could be wrong, what's your take on this?. I enjoyed your thread regardless.

[Carmen]

Thank you powerviolence (what a name), As I understand it, and have experienced to a certain degree, the mind is or can be trained to be, multi-dimensional and the different areas of our brains vacilitate this. All humans have this ability although some seem to be born with it full blown ie clairvoyance, telepathy etc. Its part of our natural progression/evolvement. The ability to healing oneself naturally is part of this higher order.

We all know of, and have experienced abilities/knowingness that do not fit into 3D. They are usually dismissed by totally 3D people, but people who have experienced paranormal abilities, even for a fleeting moment, know what they experience, no matter the naysayers. It will stay with them the rest of their lives but they usually give up discussing their experiences with people around them who are ready ridiculers.

When people ascend this plane (and this is my opinion/assumption!!) they will go, physically, to the realm that they already live in to a large extent, in mind, in consciousness. Your future reality is first created in your mind, then it manifests in the physical. Thats how it happens in 3D already, whether we are conscious of it or not. When reaching for a higher order of consciousness, we first have to understand the laws pertaining to that level, then 'Live' that Higher order as if we were already there. Sort of like 'faking it, till you make it', but that sounds dismissive because to me it is a Sacred Responsibility to evolve/improve ourselves. We were never meant to be static/set in any life. We are meant/designed to change and grow, constantly.

It can be quite overwhelming at first when we are mired in situations and lifestyles seemingly out of our control. I had a silly wee saying I say to myself when the mountain (of limitations) seems too high. Its 'Eat your elephant one bite at a time'!!!!! Works for me, and it does help to keep a sense of humour. Life is eternal. You have eternity to work on all this and whats more, (this is the bit I love to remind myself of) whatever we really, really understand and change about ourselves, we get to keep forever, doesnt matter how many lifetimes we have. What we learnt is Soul Wisdom and now part of our character.

Love and Light

Carmen

[Carmen]

Dear Gnosis (the main person who has kept my little thread alive!!) The sexual stuff is a curly question and one most people are vitally interested in!!! I was very excited when I first moved my sexual energy up the body (it shot to my head) but Im blowed if I could find 'anyone' who had had the same experience or understood to any degree what the hell I was talking about!!

My then husband was particularly upsetHis sexy scorpio wife was gone!!It really was a parting of the ways. One cannot relate physically to a mate who is stuck in their first seal, no matter how long you try. But strong energy, whether it be sexual or otherwise is a great asset to use to move towards enlightening oneself! And I do think finding a mate who is on the 'path' so to speak, would enable one to explore transcendental lovemaking.

The best way to help change this 3D world is to work on self, always working on yourself. It can sometimes seem selfish to be only doing that, but to me its the only way. Whatever anyone else is doing or saying around us is secondary to the work we do with ourselves. Eventually we will notice changes happening within ourselves, attitudes corrected, habitual behavour overcome. There will be a precious 'something' that is growing within that cannot be dismissed and really cannot be discussed. Its like a precious pearl that we guard carefully while it grows. Their is a growing confidence in what we are doing. This is reflected in our demenour (spelling!!) our beingness that others start to notice, as its starts to radiate out. I was amazed over the years watching my family change and accept the changes in me. Even my older siblings who are very asleep, find the new me acceptable.

Love

Carmen

[New Age Messiah]

I've only experienced it in fits and starts, but...

non-existence of a "self" to be protected,

non-existence of a "self" inside a corporal container

non-existence of a boundary between mind and matter

This non-existence is SO peaceful, it's like the blade of grass in its stillness.

Yet we know, within a blade of grass is teeming activity and life...

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

I've only experienced it in fits and starts, but...

non-existence of a "self" to be protected,

non-existence of a "self" inside a corporal container

non-existence of a boundary between mind and matter

This non-existence is SO peaceful, it's like the blade of grass in its stillness.

Yet we know, within a blade of grass is teeming activity and life...

That just about accurately describes what I saw and felt in the one awesome PEAT session I had.

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by Gnosis5

That just about accurately describes what I saw and felt in the one awesome PEAT session I had.

The non-being, it's so peaceful as to just not even describe it as peace, since people already conceive of peace as being something like sitting in a nice natural setting or by the fire or under a blanket.

The peace is all pervasive such that there is nothing but peace, period.

[Gnosis5]

Hello Carmen, I know a few 4D "sailors" who could take you on, lol. I'm only half joking, really, believe me. As I unlock myself out of 3D I'm starting to connect up, up the chakras too, but it has been a monogamous 4d relationship. I was being "schooled" to move the enegies up to my head. But perhaps he gave up on me for being too 3D -- yuck!!

So, nose to the grindstone, continue my self-clearing work and then perhaps I will be able to maintain a 4d relationship. Who knows I might skip a grade and start interacting on the 5D. I was told that I have downloaded or integrated quite a bit of my 9D, and I have no idea what that entails.

They never used terminology and concepts like this in Sunday School


From sessions what we were seeing about the 4D is that it used to be a heavily populated zone but we got lazy and sunk to 3D and there has been disgruntlement toward us from the remaining 4D folks who would like to bring us back into the game.

Some writers call it the former "Magical Universe" and I guess that is because in 4D a cube is really a tesseract, and time is more malleable. I've already done some time travelling when I am in a 4d mode -- the past walks right up to the present, or vice versa. Many 3d magicians and wizards operate on the 3d from their 4d viewpoint. How they do that I don't want to know right now.

I am not a technician and not a scientist, just a being who is convinced that I used to be ME, and that was a wonderful thing to be.

Originally Posted by Carmen

Dear Gnosis (the main person who has kept my little thread alive!!) The sexual stuff is a curly question and one most people are vitally interested in!!! I was very excited when I first moved my sexual energy up the body (it shot to my head) but Im blowed if I could find 'anyone' who had had the same experience or understood to any degree what the hell I was talking about!!

My then husband was particularly upsetHis sexy scorpio wife was gone!!It really was a parting of the ways. One cannot relate physically to a mate who is stuck in their first seal, no matter how long you try. But strong energy, whether it be sexual or otherwise is a great asset to use to move towards enlightening oneself! And I do think finding a mate who is on the 'path' so to speak, would enable one to explore transcendental lovemaking.

The best way to help change this 3D world is to work on self, always working on yourself. It can sometimes seem selfish to be only doing that, but to me its the only way. Whatever anyone else is doing or saying around us is secondary to the work we do with ourselves. Eventually we will notice changes happening within ourselves, attitudes corrected, habitual behavour overcome. There will be a precious 'something' that is growing within that cannot be dismissed and really cannot be discussed. Its like a precious pearl that we guard carefully while it grows. Their is a growing confidence in what we are doing. This is reflected in our demenour (spelling!!) our beingness that others start to notice, as its starts to radiate out. I was amazed over the years watching my family change and accept the changes in me. Even my older siblings who are very asleep, find the new me acceptable.

Love

Carmen