Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers revisited

[beren]

[QUOTE=Antonia;180083]Beren, you seem to be a lovely person and I am happy that you find your solace in the bible, I do homer that… it’s just I can’t do the same…even though I have read the bible from cover to cover…. here are some reasons why I believe God or the Lord of the bible to be a tyrannical war lord, ET…. And not my God, whom I am very connected to and have a deep spiritual relationship with…





Thank you for your honest opinion.
I see what you mean when quoting that and it is perfectly fine. But all you need to do is read it again , forget about sermons from churches and read the book . The context is the key for understanding.

There is crystal clear reason for every single thing you quote from the Bible. But you need to explore deeply why God ordered Israel to exterminate entire nations, why God said and ordered other things which for us today looks awful.
We have to understand how badly the situation was in that times with Israel and surrounding nations. Israel was barely above them in sanity and conscience. You see when you read old testament that Israel falls easily into trap of demon worshiping,human sacrificing,sexual orgies, sorcery and many more evil things which was quite common among all nations around them.

We have to understand that if a body is very sick and endangered and requires urgent surgery to remove threats such as gangrene in order to be saved, an urgent measures must be taken. Weed must be rooted out in order for a wheat to flourish.

That is why it is stated that old testament a Mosaic law was a care taker which lead to Christ. When Christ came he brought a clear message from God: :"It is enough with elementary school, it is time to finally grow up and learn to be human without me forcing you as some ignorants. If you wanted from the begging to be enlightened and not to be stubborn, harsh measures would never be there. But It took me thousands of years to teach you basic things like not to have sex with an animal or with your sister or any other abominations as the other nations were practicing that. But you were terribly slow learners! Now it is enough! " Jesus gave the message and now we can seek salvation through him , not through Mosaic law. Bible is giving us clear view into conscience of that time-people. It is like documentary of what was happening in the past and how people actually grew or did not grow in in their awareness...Beautiful example was when God sent prophet Jonas to preach destruction of the city of Nineveh in Assyria. Jonas told them that and went on one hill to see what will happen. People of that city were very evil but they repented and the city was spared. But Jonas was angry because God did not kill them all and he was then taught a lesson from God that for God every life is precious and life of animals and of every living creature too. Jonas had to learn a lesson and not to be stubborn and over proud . Later in history that city was destroyed because people chose again to be evil...Bible is not sugar coating or mis leading ,it aways tells the truth. Sometimes we can not bear it . Sometimes we are to poised with our own weakness that we can`t stand the truth in the particular moment.

Re read it again and again, whatever is not clear, write it down and while reading and comparing and connecting the dots you will find answers.
The biggest lie of Satan is to actually blame God for his own evil deeds and things, for his own provocations and later blaming God for that.

Some things I do not understand too, like you but I found many answers through years and all came perfectly clear.
Some things are still to be explained but I don`t want to jump to conclusions...

One thing is sure religion has basically done ill favor to Bible ,especially "churchianity"... Because of them many blame God and Bible . That is one of heavier punches by Satan towards people and God...

[RedeZra]

the Parent


to all the children in all the worlds

is the Standard of Love and Truth

and wants all the children to live up to it


adolescents are not so big on authority

and will challenge it and try change it

and associates with bad company


what will the Parent do ?


Conform the rules to the adolescents and lower the Standard to the children and to how low ?

Confront the rules to the adolescents and set an example of Chastisement ?


It seems harsh that the Parent wants the death of its children for various transgressions for the restoration of the Standard and the harmony of the Family - but remember we are not the body and we do not die - when the Parent is involved in the removal of some of the children from the earth before they do greater damage to themselves and others - they are brought closer to Home and taught a lesson in Love and Truth

[Antonia]

Sorry but the bible may have a few loving messages hidden amongst all the descriptions of highly technologically advanced people flying in the sky and using weapons and abducting Earth Humans… Elijah… Enoch…to name a few… and mixing with earth peoples genetics and trying to controle people … through fear structures… but it’s just Aliens to me… even angels were called Travelers and Watchers in direct Hebrew to English translations… they walked on the ground slept in beds and sat and eat with humans … they were tall and Blond that’s how they distinguished them apart from earth humans… even in Sodom and Gomorrah, Three angels come and spend the night with Lot. The people of the city were demented and shagging any thing that moved at that point and noticed these good looking strangers… They came to Lot’s housee and demanded that Lot release the angels so they could Know them (Shag them).. Lot is horrified and offers his daughters instead… the people say no and take the angels and rape them…. That’s why they nuke the place the next day in revenge for being Sodomised and raped… these angels were flesh and blood… ET’s Nordic Blonds..

I would find the material below far more believable and all encompassing in explaining the Earth drama and the events long before the bible , during the bible and up to now…





Here’s the last one first…

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...59037509881698


http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...3577070064505#

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...+2+of+4&emb=0#

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...y+3+of+4&emb=0

[Lionhawk]

Antonia said,

"Here’s the last one first…"

This sounds like Anna Hayes. If you are a New Age subscriber, be fore warned that she cuts to the chase and you might not like her take on the New Age as compared to what is really going on in the present reality. In other words, how can I say this without coming on to strong, she doesn't subscribe to the warm and fuzzy take on things. I hope no one takes offense as to how I put that and I was being very sincere when I said it. I feel like I'm walking on egg shells, here.

[deb003]

[quote=beren;180088]

Originally Posted by Antonia

Beren, you seem to be a lovely person and I am happy that you find your solace in the bible, I do homer that… it’s just I can’t do the same…even though I have read the bible from cover to cover…. here are some reasons why I believe God or the Lord of the bible to be a tyrannical war lord, ET…. And not my God, whom I am very connected to and have a deep spiritual relationship with…





Thank you for your honest opinion.
I see what you mean when quoting that and it is perfectly fine. But all you need to do is read it again , forget about sermons from churches and read the book . The context is the key for understanding.

There is crystal clear reason for every single thing you quote from the Bible. But you need to explore deeply why God ordered Israel to exterminate entire nations, why God said and ordered other things which for us today looks awful.
We have to understand how badly the situation was in that times with Israel and surrounding nations. Israel was barely above them in sanity and conscience. You see when you read old testament that Israel falls easily into trap of demon worshiping,human sacrificing,sexual orgies, sorcery and many more evil things which was quite common among all nations around them.

We have to understand that if a body is very sick and endangered and requires urgent surgery to remove threats such as gangrene in order to be saved, an urgent measures must be taken. Weed must be rooted out in order for a wheat to flourish.

That is why it is stated that old testament a Mosaic law was a care taker which lead to Christ. When Christ came he brought a clear message from God: :"It is enough with elementary school, it is time to finally grow up and learn to be human without me forcing you as some ignorants. If you wanted from the begging to be enlightened and not to be stubborn, harsh measures would never be there. But It took me thousands of years to teach you basic things like not to have sex with an animal or with your sister or any other abominations as the other nations were practicing that. But you were terribly slow learners! Now it is enough! " Jesus gave the message and now we can seek salvation through him , not through Mosaic law. Bible is giving us clear view into conscience of that time-people. It is like documentary of what was happening in the past and how people actually grew or did not grow in in their awareness...Beautiful example was when God sent prophet Jonas to preach destruction of the city of Nineveh in Assyria. Jonas told them that and went on one hill to see what will happen. People of that city were very evil but they repented and the city was spared. But Jonas was angry because God did not kill them all and he was then taught a lesson from God that for God every life is precious and life of animals and of every living creature too. Jonas had to learn a lesson and not to be stubborn and over proud . Later in history that city was destroyed because people chose again to be evil...Bible is not sugar coating or mis leading ,it aways tells the truth. Sometimes we can not bear it . Sometimes we are to poised with our own weakness that we can`t stand the truth in the particular moment.

Re read it again and again, whatever is not clear, write it down and while reading and comparing and connecting the dots you will find answers.
The biggest lie of Satan is to actually blame God for his own evil deeds and things, for his own provocations and later blaming God for that.

Some things I do not understand too, like you but I found many answers through years and all came perfectly clear.
Some things are still to be explained but I don`t want to jump to conclusions...

One thing is sure religion has basically done ill favor to Bible ,especially "churchianity"... Because of them many blame God and Bible . That is one of heavier punches by Satan towards people and God...

Beren,
have you read or watched interviews with John Todd?
he is a former illuminati music manager and he turned to christianity and exposed what he knew. he only lived until 33 years old. It seems they got to him.
Well, he mentions that many parts in the bible are not speaking of God but the really the god of satan or the nephilim, which is why there is so much confusion. He discussed that the new testament and what jesus was saying is more truth but that the bible itself is not referring to a universal god but Satan or other gods.

[eleni]

Adding this to the confusion- a good read IMHO

http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html

[beren]

[quote=deb003;180330]

Originally Posted by beren

Beren,
have you read or watched interviews with John Todd?
he is a former illuminati music manager and he turned to christianity and exposed what he knew. he only lived until 33 years old. It seems they got to him.
Well, he mentions that many parts in the bible are not speaking of God but the really the god of satan or the nephilim, which is why there is so much confusion. He discussed that the new testament and what jesus was saying is more truth but that the bible itself is not referring to a universal god but Satan or other gods.

I didn`t . Do you have any link?
With Illuminati all is possible. Whole their organization is structured on fear, lies and half truths.
I would not be surprised that they fed him up with a lot of dis info.
The problem with Bible is that rarely it is read. People tend to speculate and speak with hear -say style regarding to Bible.

Also whole Bible has a one line structure and a story through out whole book.
Basically Bible means a group of books, 66 of them ,Catholics have more in their Bibles.

So it is a collection of writing of 40 different authors and it was written in 1500 year period of time.
Amazing thing is that all books inside synchronize. Even Jesus stated that every single word from Bible will fulfill.
Also Bible is the most translated piece of work on Earth and in the same time the most mis understood, hated, burned, or ill -taken writing on Earth.

I like to talk about it since it is worthy. Many people draw few sentences from it and go make their own conclusions.
Religion has been using Bible as their cloak in order to fool people and rule them. They use certain passages from Bible and mix then with their own teachings and lay upon people with words: " GOD WANTS YOU TO DO THIS-UNLESS HE WILL PUNISH YOU! "
No wonder why people blame God then.
That `s why I am saying to look beyond religion, pastors, priests and rest. To look through religious man made dogma when reading Bible.
It is so much more than it was represented by religions today.

I will not repeat my self here again but one I will say, there is every reason for every word that was written there.
If we do not know the whole facts why something was done there in that past time, do we have a right to judge that?

Anyways no matter what I or some others here write, I will be labeled as religious freak, preacher, bible believer or whatever.
I simply do not care because I am not any of above .

Jesus said there is only one who will be as a bridge between Father and man and that is Jesus Christ.
Did he mention religion,clergy,priesthood,philosophy,teachings,po litics,empires,societies,congregations,or any thing else?
No.
Simple as that.
Can we take it as simple as it is?

Or we need "complicated" things ,astral projections,demons,reptilians,philosophies ,eastern teachings,ayahasca, drugs,ET`s,grays, Nordics or anything imaginable under this sky to tell us that black is actually black, and that white is really white???

I don`t wish to sound rude or as know all guy... I am just asking sound question with healthy thinking...

Love and blessings to all!

Beren

[Unified Serenity]

[quote=beren;180335]

Originally Posted by deb003

So it is a collection of writing of 40 different authors and it was written in 1500 year period of time.
Amazing thing is that all books inside synchronize. Even Jesus stated that every single word from Bible will fulfill.
Also Bible is the most translated piece of work on Earth and in the same time the most mis understood, hated, burned, or ill -taken writing on Earth.

Beren

Beren,

The bible he spoke of is the Tanach. Have you ever read the Tanach in it's original language or studied it's Hebrew idioms and culture? The codification was in 326 AD and they tossed out much of what the people were accepting as sacred scripture. The Gnostics were completely ignored. Sure the bible is the most translated book. If the one world worshipping group is going to change it, use it to control the people of course they would make sure it was printed in every language and there were plenty of missionaries to carry around and preach the "good news".

Many who have come out of the Illuminati will tell how our biggest religious leaders in Christianity are Luciferians. How they either witnessed or were victims of these sadistic liars, these white washed tombs, and den of vipers.

I think Jesus knew exactly who he was dealing with, and that is why they killed him. He called them imposters, Kenites, sons of the devil, and guilty of all the blood sacrifices of the prophets of God from Abel to Zacharias on the Portico of Solomon. He revealed a great deal, and few have eyes to see the truth.

The bible is written on three levels. One to those who are only able to digest milk, one for those who can digest more solid food, and others who can handle meat. For the Illuminati, they have a funny rule. They can't do anything without saying what they are doing. They said so in the bible, twisted things, and hid them in plain sight, but few are they who will give themselves to study of it and fewer are they who can see the beautifully woven truth and what is planned.

I have zero fear for the future. I welcome it, and look forward to it because of what I know will happen. Recent dreams have given me more reason to feel we are very close at hand.

Beren, I bid you peace and hope you find what you re looking for.

US