Long post, please give your opinion

[Northern Boy]

C9 as with every thing there is a threshold limit. Once the limit is reached then anything becomes possible . If you have Listened to any of the Webbot forecasts then you see that Cliff High thru the language his computer program picks up can in fact some what pick out probabilities not predictions . He describe`s the people refusing the vaccine as refuseniks the current threshold of 3 to 4 % has been passed and he currently puts it at 5 to 6 % of the population.

Right now the American Government are worried about this group and are gauging the refusenik response to it. They are in the process of sending out survey`s on this very subject to get an idea of how large the refusenik group is going to be so they can alter plans to suit. They are going to do 1 of 2 things the first being back down from mandatory vaccinations or they plan on coming down extremely hard on the first set of refuseniks to try and get the rest to toe the line or face a similar fate

If u watched the Awake and Aware conference in LA and saw Alex Collier`s presentation he pretty much points out that now is the time to decide what type of country you want to live in and it is now that we make the decision of if we are going to continue to be slaves or take our power that we have been giving others for decades back and take responsibility for our actions and how we treat others. As long as we allow others to make that decision for us we will be stuck in slavery forever.

[cloud9]

Thank you NB for your comments and yes, I had the chance to listen to Alex Collier, I couldn't agree more with what he says. I have the feeling that everybody is choosing the country they want to live in by doing nothing.... that's my point!
This is what you say: "As long as we allow others to make that decision for us we will be stuck in slavery forever" and it is exactly what we are doing and have being doing for decades.
I really wish american people wouldn't be so passive and apathetic.

[Northern Boy]

It comes down to individual choice you with your free will you can`t decide for any one else only your self. They want to force you to put something in your body just because they say so. No matter how I look at it they don`t own that right you do . So when the time comes you make the choice to do what you feel is right. If you like your life and the way things have been you comply if not you don`t. Those that chose door #2 now get other options . They have created laws and statutes to incarcerate those that refuse with threat of taking belongings and possessions . BUT THEY ARE ONLY ENFORCEABLE ON PERSONS ARE YOU A PERSON? OR DO YOU HAVE A PERSON?

[Fredkc]

Jnana;
Obama's disclosure:
I think the first "official" contact will come another way and the US will have to play catch-up.

That's Amurika yer talkin' bout pilgrim. Round here we only play Ketchup!

[cloud9]

Thank you again NB, I do understand your point and trust me, I'm not angry or resent the fact that people who know what's going on decided to wait untill the time comes, perhaps it's a good thing, I just hope it will not be too late.