They are very much still in control.

Jack · 08-17-2009, 10:02 PM

I often wonder why people seem so passionate about finding solutions to a whole world of problems. If theres a problem it seems to be the human nature of this civilisation to focus only on the problem and find a solution to it. What caused the problem is all to often over looked and as soon as one problem is solved another one raises its head. All the while people are bopping down these trouble heads and getting nowhere because they fail to aknowledge that the system is created to cause problems. The system is created to keep everyone busy trying to fix the problems that a society like this creates in order for the few with inteligence to raise above them and control the chaos, steer it in the direction they want while they look on from a safe vantage point, usually a high powered jet paid for by our tax money.

There are four main problems that cause almost ALL of the problems in our society.

These are as follows.

Education ;

People have lost control of the most important system in society. It is through education that the generation of the future is molded. And whoever controls education controls and dictates how a generation of humans will turn out. This system has led to the systematic degredation of morals, limited thinking, and accepted belief that we cannot change our reality and most importantly they seperate education from spirituality. In essence seperating us from truth.

Law ;

This system is created in order to impose limitations on the people in order to steer them in a particular direction which promotes the agenda of those who control it. The legal establishment is like a bandaid on a sore created by the lack of spirituality in peoples lives. This establishment would become obsolete if replaced with spirituality, this would happen in a generation if allowed.

Religion ;

As long as there are humans there will be the urge to explore spirituality. We are spiritual beings and deep down on a subconscious level we know this. So we will at all costs attempt to persue and explore this aspect of ourselves intuitivly and this urge, this problem to the establishment must be met with a solution and that solution is religion. Nothing more then a spiritual and mental trap created in order to cut us off from the most profound truth in the entire world. That we are the creation we are experiencing. We are god. We are one.

Politics ;

Politics is the system which holds all other systems in place. If one were to try and bring down politics through politics it would be an automatic failure. The establishment of politics can only become obsolete when a generation become spiritually aware. Politics steers our civilisation and is constructed in such a way that can be manipulated only by those who hold specific places in power. This system ensures the establishment remains established and only moves in the direction of those who created it.

All other problems stem from these four main issues. If you dont go to school then you go to jail. This ensures the mind is molded in the appropriate fasion. The mind is molded to ensure you are too busy chasing your tail to effect any real change. Religion is in place to ensure you do not find that motivation to do so. And politics is in place to ensure that if you do find your way out of the mental conditioning and find that will to do so you will be met with fiersome oppostition who hold a much better hand then you..

People say "they" are loosing control.

They still control education.
They still control media.
They still control politics.
They still control religion.

And while they do so be under no illusions that they are very much IN CONTROL.

swordsmith · 08-17-2009, 10:22 PM

Pluto in Capricorn for the next 10 years or so assures that every control mechanism in place will be exposed. We can already see it happening. None of their crappy agenda will escape scrutiny, it's just that the average bear can't quite see the writing on the wall .
Not at all that I am advocating sit back and watch, some people are making sure that information is written LARGE on that wall for when people recover their vision.

pineal-pilot-in merkabah · 08-17-2009, 10:46 PM

Quote:

They still control education.
They still control media.
They still control politics.
They still control religion.

these require a sound economy and compliance to be efective.

education: once economic collpase occurs teachers (lol indoctrinators) wont get paid

media: when whats going on in the world is so far from what they are telling us everyone will stop watching it(coming soon)

politics: on the edge of collapse from their theft and arrogance ect

religion: when war escalates the incoming energies will be so strong war wont be able to compete and will fizzle out.all war is religion based divide and conquer nonsense.

thats how im looking at it from here on in, in the next few years all the above will become almost irellevant to peoples daily lives

TruthWillSetUFree · 08-17-2009, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordsmith

Pluto in Capricorn for the next 10 years or so assures that every control mechanism in place will be exposed. We can already see it happening. None of their crappy agenda will escape scrutiny, it's just that the average bear can't quite see the writing on the wall .
Not at all that I am advocating sit back and watch, some people are making sure that information is written LARGE on that wall for when people recover their vision.

No wonder they took Pluto off the map of planets....it's an instigator of trouble for them!

Anchor · 08-18-2009, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TruthWillSetUFree

No wonder they took Pluto off the map of planets....it's an instigator of trouble for them!

There is so much truth in this comment it is not even funny! (Even though it is funny if you see what I mean!!)

TheChosen · 08-18-2009, 12:29 AM

A friend of mine told me years ago something that was so much 'on the spot' that I never forgot it ... I was explaining to him that humanity should turn to a more natural way of living and giving him all my arguments to support my opinion.

He told me, until people find it hard to survive in the current system and they are 'forced' to switch to a more natural approach , nothing will change.

And that is exactly it. We are in that moment right now. The financial crash is the biggest wake up call the humanity has ever received. Only when people are forced with the possibility of not having food on the table they start thinking and looking for other ways than the one given to them by their government. The NWO knows this very well... the know that they can't change the system unless people are suffering. If it's not broken.. don't fix it. They would never get away with huge changes if the economy is OK.. but the flip side of the coin is that once you loosen the screws of control .. things also have the same potential of escalating in a completely another manner.

If the financial crisis keeps escalating (and it will) .. education , media , politics and religion will fall like a pile of cards.

Education: People go to school so they can get a job and a better pay. If your degree doesn't result in a job (and this is happening in mass numbers.. ask any investment banker).. then I am outta the school.

Media: People listen to media so they can be well informed on their future. When the media keeps predicting the wrong future... and all the blogs keep predicting the right one... again...

Religion: This one will be the last one to fall... it will only happen after an enormous X event of an extraterrestrial origin.. or a massive unearthing of old hidden undisputable information.

Politics: There is a strong possibility of a full blown revolution in the USA in the next few years.. what more needs to be said

Yes , they are very much still 'in control' .. but only as much as a machinist is in control of a speed train that is travelling 150MPH and is about 10 meters from a concrete wall in front of it. He is at the helm.. but out of options.. the crash is so inevitable that only something of the magnitude of WW3 + 90% reduction of population + mass chipping of survivors could turn it around.

The run up to 2012 will be a wild ride.. and we are living into the defining moments of humanity. Use the current fluidity out of the chaos to push the tide in a positive direction to the best of your ability... such a chance comes only once in many thousand years.

14 Chakras · 08-18-2009, 01:41 AM

I think it's possible those who are getting a much more upbeat feeling about the situation are actually on to something.

Sure change is coming in a massive way, and sure the current way of going about business is not going to remain the same...

However, what I believe is that people are sensing on inner levels, on higher levels, the light is starting to descend, and the darkness is indeed being exposed. On outer levels, the PTB are still very much in control overall, agreed, however, on innner levels a different story is being manifest.

It's only a matter of time until the light decends into this dimension and the PTB loose their control completely. It will be up to God's children to build the New Earth on the Purity of the Christ consciousness, taking with us all the lessons we learned in the depths of duality, and building a permanent Golden Age that surpasses all ages to have come and gone before.

THE eXchanger · 08-18-2009, 01:53 AM

xxx

Christo888 · 08-18-2009, 02:02 AM

As a side note 'Religion' has been left out of this thread...
All Religions control the Spirtual!

Government controls the emotions,
Education controls the mental,
Medical controls the physical, and
Religion controls the spiritual... while Media continues to be the trumpet of false doctrine for all of them.

And the drugged food and water supply is effectively altering thought process in order to allow in programmed transmissions of false realities for mind control... 'Synthetic Telepathy' through wireless transmissions.

Researching this and learning how it works will help everyone remove the effects from their life and you will also be able to recognize what are your real thoughts as opposed to thoughts being implanted/planted.

Becoming Self-Aware, Self-Empowered, and Personally Responsible will remove the game from playing out and instead who you really are will begin accelerating!!!

It will not be done for you it will be done by you!!!

RedeZra · 08-18-2009, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack

...Nothing more then a spiritual and mental trap created in order to cut us off from the most profound truth in the entire world. That we are the creation we are experiencing. We are god. We are one.

You fail to see that the Powers That Be follow this line of reason

They do what they want and answer to none

Christo888 · 08-18-2009, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedeZra

You fail to see that the Powers That Be follow this line of reason

They do what they want and answer to none

Very True... but they also are operating in the 'Darkside polarity= If I can't have it you can't either' www.trufax.org
and the other side is 'Lightside polarity= I am doing this for your benefit' of which many people also operate in this polarity to escape those operating in the darkside polarity. Thus continuing the game of cat and mouse indefinitely until someone pulls themselves out from either of the two polarities to find the resting point of Harmony and Balance.

Unified Serenity · 08-18-2009, 04:57 AM

It is my sincere belief that we are truly at a tipping point or crossroads. Millions will wake up shortly and realize we the regular people of the planet are not enemies. So many have been waking up these past 20 years, and I think we are close to the 100th monkey idea.

TPTW know they are out of time, and will / are panick/ing so stay positive and keep smiling, it will drive em crazy

burgundia · 08-18-2009, 05:11 AM

I eliminated religion from my life a long time ago, I have eliminated politics from my life recently, fortunately I am at the age that nobody forces me to go to school, so I am free to choose the sources of education. media?......I do not listen to them....I observe them.

mudra · 08-18-2009, 06:25 PM

They can control education but they can't control your inner truth
They can control religion but they can't control your foundation as a soul
They can control the law but they can't control the higher law of ONE
They can control politics but they can't control pure Love
They can feed your mind with fear and terror
But the choice to step into your heart is entirely yours.
If there is one thing they will never be able to take from yourself is who you really are.
Even if they take your life away you will still remain for soul is your foundation.

Love always
mudra

burgundia · 08-18-2009, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mudra

They can control education but they can't control your inner truth
They can control religion but they can't control your foundation as a soul
They can control the law but they can't control the higher law of ONE
They can control politics but they can't control pure Love
They can feed your mind with fear and terror
But the choice to step into your heart is entirely yours.
If there is one thing they will never be able to take from yourself is who you really are.
Even if they take your life away you will still remain for soul is your foundation.

Love always
mudra

metaw3 · 08-18-2009, 09:28 PM

Here is a first-hand witness describing media control in Montana on August 14th for Obama's speech about healthcare:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16078

So are they still in control or are they desperate? If they are still in control, then my opinion is that a HUGE false flag is coming soon.

orthodoxymoron · 08-19-2009, 01:09 AM

Education, Religion, Law, and Politics seem to be currently controlled by an Alien Luciferian Theocracy...operating through the City States of Vatican City, Washington DC, and the City of London. 'They' may not be in control. The being or beings who control them are probably in control. Obviously...I cannot absolutely verify this...but the circumstantial evidence seems to be getting stronger every day. Only a Solar System wide exorcism will solve this problem IMO.

08-19-2009, 10:48 PM

I say not! ... they are slowly loosing this so-called control they have on us. As more people wake up and begin to become aware of what is happening and has been happening... the control structure and all its mechanisms are slowly fading away. Keep your eyes open.

Jnana · 08-20-2009, 12:57 PM

As more people become aware of the mechanisms of control, the less control they will have. Simple as that.

deb003 · 08-20-2009, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

Education, Religion, Law, and Politics seem to be currently controlled by an Alien Luciferian Theocracy...operating through the City States of Vatican City, Washington DC, and the City of London. 'They' may not be in control. The being or beings who control them are probably in control. Obviously...I cannot absolutely verify this...but the circumstantial evidence seems to be getting stronger every day. Only a Solar System wide exorcism will solve this problem IMO.

I have to agree with orthodoxymoron here.
I've been reading everything I can on spirit releasement therapy as a clinical type research and evil entitied need to be released or exorcised in order for them to leave a specific person, region, area.
We can; however, with more being of light and humans that do not evoke the dark side, so something to change the current form if we together can take action, but these beings will not go anywhere unless they are assisted out.
They will keep trying to infiltrate and conquer.
I know this sounds pretty crazy to some, but I'm sure some will understand.

14 Chakras · 08-21-2009, 03:22 AM

Consider Archangel Michael, and legions of angels, ascended beings and good aliens from higher dimensions are in the process of clearing out a lot of these energies and dark beings right now.

Consider you can personally empower them to do so through conscious asking for God and ideally archangel Michael to remove the dark forces and dark aliens who are interfering with the evolution and ascension of man and interfering with this planet. Your request is most powerful through the spoken word (through a prayer or spoken word exercise), and consciously deciding that there time is up and we no longer allow the dark ones to be on our planet. The more specific you can be the better.

To quote Deb003: "I know this sounds pretty crazy to some, but I'm sure some will understand."

08-17-2009, 10:02 PM	#1
Jack Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 454	They are very much still in control. I often wonder why people seem so passionate about finding solutions to a whole world of problems. If theres a problem it seems to be the human nature of this civilisation to focus only on the problem and find a solution to it. What caused the problem is all to often over looked and as soon as one problem is solved another one raises its head. All the while people are bopping down these trouble heads and getting nowhere because they fail to aknowledge that the system is created to cause problems. The system is created to keep everyone busy trying to fix the problems that a society like this creates in order for the few with inteligence to raise above them and control the chaos, steer it in the direction they want while they look on from a safe vantage point, usually a high powered jet paid for by our tax money. There are four main problems that cause almost ALL of the problems in our society. These are as follows. Education ; People have lost control of the most important system in society. It is through education that the generation of the future is molded. And whoever controls education controls and dictates how a generation of humans will turn out. This system has led to the systematic degredation of morals, limited thinking, and accepted belief that we cannot change our reality and most importantly they seperate education from spirituality. In essence seperating us from truth. Law ; This system is created in order to impose limitations on the people in order to steer them in a particular direction which promotes the agenda of those who control it. The legal establishment is like a bandaid on a sore created by the lack of spirituality in peoples lives. This establishment would become obsolete if replaced with spirituality, this would happen in a generation if allowed. Religion ; As long as there are humans there will be the urge to explore spirituality. We are spiritual beings and deep down on a subconscious level we know this. So we will at all costs attempt to persue and explore this aspect of ourselves intuitivly and this urge, this problem to the establishment must be met with a solution and that solution is religion. Nothing more then a spiritual and mental trap created in order to cut us off from the most profound truth in the entire world. That we are the creation we are experiencing. We are god. We are one. Politics ; Politics is the system which holds all other systems in place. If one were to try and bring down politics through politics it would be an automatic failure. The establishment of politics can only become obsolete when a generation become spiritually aware. Politics steers our civilisation and is constructed in such a way that can be manipulated only by those who hold specific places in power. This system ensures the establishment remains established and only moves in the direction of those who created it. All other problems stem from these four main issues. If you dont go to school then you go to jail. This ensures the mind is molded in the appropriate fasion. The mind is molded to ensure you are too busy chasing your tail to effect any real change. Religion is in place to ensure you do not find that motivation to do so. And politics is in place to ensure that if you do find your way out of the mental conditioning and find that will to do so you will be met with fiersome oppostition who hold a much better hand then you.. People say "they" are loosing control. They still control education. They still control media. They still control politics. They still control religion. And while they do so be under no illusions that they are very much IN CONTROL.

08-17-2009, 10:22 PM	#2
swordsmith Unsubscribed Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: south east uk Posts: 379	Re: They are very much still in control. Pluto in Capricorn for the next 10 years or so assures that every control mechanism in place will be exposed. We can already see it happening. None of their crappy agenda will escape scrutiny, it's just that the average bear can't quite see the writing on the wall . Not at all that I am advocating sit back and watch, some people are making sure that information is written LARGE on that wall for when people recover their vision.

08-18-2009, 12:29 AM	#6
TheChosen Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Light Posts: 239	Re: They are very much still in control. A friend of mine told me years ago something that was so much 'on the spot' that I never forgot it ... I was explaining to him that humanity should turn to a more natural way of living and giving him all my arguments to support my opinion. He told me, until people find it hard to survive in the current system and they are 'forced' to switch to a more natural approach , nothing will change. And that is exactly it. We are in that moment right now. The financial crash is the biggest wake up call the humanity has ever received. Only when people are forced with the possibility of not having food on the table they start thinking and looking for other ways than the one given to them by their government. The NWO knows this very well... the know that they can't change the system unless people are suffering. If it's not broken.. don't fix it. They would never get away with huge changes if the economy is OK.. but the flip side of the coin is that once you loosen the screws of control .. things also have the same potential of escalating in a completely another manner. If the financial crisis keeps escalating (and it will) .. education , media , politics and religion will fall like a pile of cards. Education: People go to school so they can get a job and a better pay. If your degree doesn't result in a job (and this is happening in mass numbers.. ask any investment banker).. then I am outta the school. Media: People listen to media so they can be well informed on their future. When the media keeps predicting the wrong future... and all the blogs keep predicting the right one... again... Religion: This one will be the last one to fall... it will only happen after an enormous X event of an extraterrestrial origin.. or a massive unearthing of old hidden undisputable information. Politics: There is a strong possibility of a full blown revolution in the USA in the next few years.. what more needs to be said Yes , they are very much still 'in control' .. but only as much as a machinist is in control of a speed train that is travelling 150MPH and is about 10 meters from a concrete wall in front of it. He is at the helm.. but out of options.. the crash is so inevitable that only something of the magnitude of WW3 + 90% reduction of population + mass chipping of survivors could turn it around. The run up to 2012 will be a wild ride.. and we are living into the defining moments of humanity. Use the current fluidity out of the chaos to push the tide in a positive direction to the best of your ability... such a chance comes only once in many thousand years. Last edited by TheChosen; 08-18-2009 at 12:34 AM.

08-18-2009, 01:41 AM	#7
14 Chakras Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 832	Re: They are very much still in control. I think it's possible those who are getting a much more upbeat feeling about the situation are actually on to something. Sure change is coming in a massive way, and sure the current way of going about business is not going to remain the same... However, what I believe is that people are sensing on inner levels, on higher levels, the light is starting to descend, and the darkness is indeed being exposed. On outer levels, the PTB are still very much in control overall, agreed, however, on innner levels a different story is being manifest. It's only a matter of time until the light decends into this dimension and the PTB loose their control completely. It will be up to God's children to build the New Earth on the Purity of the Christ consciousness, taking with us all the lessons we learned in the depths of duality, and building a permanent Golden Age that surpasses all ages to have come and gone before.

08-18-2009, 01:53 AM	#8
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: They are very much still in control. xxx Last edited by THE eXchanger; 09-14-2009 at 04:58 PM.

08-18-2009, 02:02 AM	#9
Christo888 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: OC, CA and next... Posts: 1,289	Re: They are very much still in control. As a side note 'Religion' has been left out of this thread... All Religions control the Spirtual! Government controls the emotions, Education controls the mental, Medical controls the physical, and Religion controls the spiritual... while Media continues to be the trumpet of false doctrine for all of them. And the drugged food and water supply is effectively altering thought process in order to allow in programmed transmissions of false realities for mind control... 'Synthetic Telepathy' through wireless transmissions. Researching this and learning how it works will help everyone remove the effects from their life and you will also be able to recognize what are your real thoughts as opposed to thoughts being implanted/planted. Becoming Self-Aware, Self-Empowered, and Personally Responsible will remove the game from playing out and instead who you really are will begin accelerating!!! It will not be done for you it will be done by you!!!

08-18-2009, 04:57 AM	#12
Unified Serenity Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 893	Re: They are very much still in control. It is my sincere belief that we are truly at a tipping point or crossroads. Millions will wake up shortly and realize we the regular people of the planet are not enemies. So many have been waking up these past 20 years, and I think we are close to the 100th monkey idea. TPTW know they are out of time, and will / are panick/ing so stay positive and keep smiling, it will drive em crazy

08-18-2009, 05:11 AM	#13
burgundia Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Poland Posts: 3,442	Re: They are very much still in control. I eliminated religion from my life a long time ago, I have eliminated politics from my life recently, fortunately I am at the age that nobody forces me to go to school, so I am free to choose the sources of education. media?......I do not listen to them....I observe them.

08-18-2009, 06:25 PM	#14
mudra Avalon Spiritual Mother Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: belgium Posts: 4,919	Re: They are very much still in control. They can control education but they can't control your inner truth They can control religion but they can't control your foundation as a soul They can control the law but they can't control the higher law of ONE They can control politics but they can't control pure Love They can feed your mind with fear and terror But the choice to step into your heart is entirely yours. If there is one thing they will never be able to take from yourself is who you really are. Even if they take your life away you will still remain for soul is your foundation. Love always mudra

08-18-2009, 09:28 PM	#16
metaw3 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 431	Re: They are very much still in control. Here is a first-hand witness describing media control in Montana on August 14th for Obama's speech about healthcare: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16078 So are they still in control or are they desperate? If they are still in control, then my opinion is that a HUGE false flag is coming soon.

08-19-2009, 01:09 AM	#17
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: They are very much still in control. Education, Religion, Law, and Politics seem to be currently controlled by an Alien Luciferian Theocracy...operating through the City States of Vatican City, Washington DC, and the City of London. 'They' may not be in control. The being or beings who control them are probably in control. Obviously...I cannot absolutely verify this...but the circumstantial evidence seems to be getting stronger every day. Only a Solar System wide exorcism will solve this problem IMO.

08-19-2009, 10:48 PM	#18
Nebula Guest Posts: n/a	Re: They are very much still in control. I say not! ... they are slowly loosing this so-called control they have on us. As more people wake up and begin to become aware of what is happening and has been happening... the control structure and all its mechanisms are slowly fading away. Keep your eyes open.

08-20-2009, 12:57 PM	#19
Jnana Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 653	Re: They are very much still in control. As more people become aware of the mechanisms of control, the less control they will have. Simple as that.

08-21-2009, 03:22 AM	#21
14 Chakras Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 832	Re: They are very much still in control. Consider Archangel Michael, and legions of angels, ascended beings and good aliens from higher dimensions are in the process of clearing out a lot of these energies and dark beings right now. Consider you can personally empower them to do so through conscious asking for God and ideally archangel Michael to remove the dark forces and dark aliens who are interfering with the evolution and ascension of man and interfering with this planet. Your request is most powerful through the spoken word (through a prayer or spoken word exercise), and consciously deciding that there time is up and we no longer allow the dark ones to be on our planet. The more specific you can be the better. To quote Deb003: "I know this sounds pretty crazy to some, but I'm sure some will understand." Last edited by 14 Chakras; 08-21-2009 at 03:31 AM.