Stefan Frederick Cook: Soldier Won't Deploy Over Obama Birth Certificate

NorthernSanctuary · 07-17-2009, 12:41 AM

We should be worried about his health care plan more than the citizenship thing. We should be worried more about forced vaccinations. We should be thinking about the plans that the fallen elite have for us.

It's has major ramifications to the US. The president is the commander in chief. If he's not legitimate, he's authority is in jeopardy. All the laws he passed or changed would not be legal, including any forced vaccination. If the US was a 3rd world nation, it'll be a different story.

Humble Janitor · 07-17-2009, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorthernSantuary

We should be worried about his health care plan more than the citizenship thing. We should be worried more about forced vaccinations. We should be thinking about the plans that the fallen elite have for us.

It's has major ramifications to the US. The president is the commander in chief. If he's not legitimate, he's authority is in jeopardy. All the laws he passed or changed would not be legal, including any forced vaccination. If the US was a 3rd world nation, it'll be a different story.

Well, we'll have to see where the court case goes. Otherwise, I see it as purely a distraction for conservatives to use to line up a candidate to "replace" him, which would be more of the same.

Northern Boy · 07-17-2009, 03:10 AM

Mike in the Morning is a morning radio show out of Detroit and was the number 1 rated morning show there for a number of years Call letters for the show are WRIF- fm 101.1 they were one of the first to start questioning Kwamee Kilpatricks goings on for those that don`t know he was the former mayor of Detroit now behind bars for questionable conduct in the firing of police officers who blew the whistle on the goings on of the mayors security team and other things

dolphin · 07-17-2009, 05:48 AM

humble janitor, here you go again...beating the same drum

how can that just be a "distraction"???? the legitimacy of the presidency is a HUGE issue!

peaceandlove · 07-19-2009, 03:10 AM

SOURCE: G. Edward Griffin's site: http://www.realityzone.com/currentperiod.html

US: Federal judge dismisses soldier's suit challenging legitimacy of Obama's presidency because, a few days ago, his deployment orders to Afghanistan were revoked. Makes no sense but that was the ruling. Ledger Enquirer 2009 July 16 (Cached)

FIGURES!!!

Hmmmmmm,

Clicked on the link at Reality Zone http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/292/s...k=omni_popular and this is what I get:

Unfortunately we are unable to locate the page you have requested. This could be due to content on our site having expired, a broken link, an outdated bookmark, or a mistyped address. Please use the navigation provided on this page, or click here to visit our home page.

STEVE A....HELP!!!

07-19-2009, 03:48 AM

I was unconcerned, no, disinterested about Obama's citizenship. I just thought, hey, it seems to mean a lot to Americans. Now, if it's the law of the land, it's the law of the land. No exceptions. I stumbled across a list of SO many legal obstructions occurring - to prevent the production of a birth certificate. Obama's supposed to have spent over a million dollars on this.

Maybe he/ his mom actually lost it. After all, he was a baby. I'm just asking. But then there would be hospital records, right? Government records (which can be fudged)?

Anyway, I did find billboards going up kind of funny

Another question, let's say for some reason he's removed from his position for this. What happens then? Is the VP the Prez, and does the new Prez (Gates) appoint a new VP?

07-19-2009, 03:58 AM

Also, a fair number of these billboards are 'billboards,' i.e. photoshopped. So I don't know if it's a big people's movement, or is it? I read, too, a few soldiers saying it was BS and Stefan Cook was just looking for a way not to deploy.

Moreover, why don't didn't people get really upset with George Bush Sr. and the callboy ring - and WHY THIS??!! (Maybe I still don't get why it's so important.)(Sorry.)

NorthernSanctuary · 07-26-2009, 01:13 AM

Obama was a Fulbright Scholarship recepient for his education at Occidental college in LA...meaning he HAD to be a foreign student to receive the scholarship...provable ONLY by his Birth Certificate.

http://fulbright.state.gov/fulbright/about/whyis

Why Is the Fulbright Program Unique?

In September 1945, the freshman senator from Arkansas, J.William Fulbright, introduced a bill in the U.S. Congress that called for the use of proceeds from the sales of surplus war property to fund the promotion of international good will through the exchange of students in the fields of education, culture and science. One year later President Harry S. Truman signed the bill into law, and the young senator's vision of replacing swords with plowshares found its expression.

Today, Fulbright is the most widely recognized and prestigious international exchange program in the world, supported for more than half a century by the American people through an annual appropriation from the U.S. Congress and by the people of partner nations.

The program, working with universities, schools, binational Fulbright commissions, government agencies, nongovernmental organizations and the private sector, actively seeks out individuals of achievement and potential who represent the full diversity of their respective societies and selects nominees through open, merit-based competitions.

From its inception, the Fulbright Program has fostered bilateral relationships in which other countries and governments work with the U.S. to set joint priorities and shape the program to meet shared needs. The world has been transformed in ensuing decades, but the fundamental principles of international partnership and mutual understanding remain at the core of the Fulbright Program's mission.

http://www.oxy.edu/x1985.xml

NorthernSanctuary · 07-26-2009, 01:27 AM

Contradictions starting to show up?

"
Check this out

State of Hawaii official Statement October 2008

http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," ***ino said.
Huffingtonn Post and CNN Reponse July 24, 2009

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_244532.html

per CNN President John Klein in his response to the Letter:

In part, Klein writes, "It seems this story is dead- because anyone who still is not convinced doesn't really have a legitimate beef." Klein asked CNN researchers to dig into the question of why Obama couldn't produce the original birth certificate. The researchers contacted the Hawaii Health Dept. and confirmed that paper documents were discarded in 2001 when the department went paperless. That reportedly includes Pres. Obama's original birth certificate.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...rtificate.html

In an email, he said that CNN researchers had determined that Hawaiian officials discarded paper documents in 2001. Because of that, Obama's long-form birth certificate no longer exists and the shorter certificate of live birth that has been made public is the sole official record. "It seems to definitively answer the question," he said.

SO WHAT IS IT? WHO IS INVOLVED IN THIS CONSPIRACY TO DEFRAUD THE US AND WHY?

CNN, STATE OF HAWAII, THE LIST GOES ON AND ON...Something Stinks to high heaven
"

brutus35 · 07-26-2009, 02:22 AM

WHERE WERE YOU BORN?

CNN has produced the original announcements of Barack Obama's birth from the Honolulu Advertiser and Hawaii Star-Bulletin newspapers from August 13th and 14th of 1961, and the director of the Hawaii Department of Health says he's "personally seen and verified" that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Obama's "original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedure." Yet, many Republicans still claim Obama was foreign born. In a related story, Senator Lindsey Graham is denying he's a lesbian.

In addition to which all presidential noninees have to be successfully vetted by the CIA, FBI, and DOJ.
I cannot understand why this is still an issue..
Maybe it is I am informed that Obama's biological father is not a kenyan as is popularly reported, but in fact..Malcolm X...
Chew on that a little...

mntruthseeker · 07-26-2009, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brutus35

WHERE WERE YOU BORN?

CNN has produced the original announcements of Barack Obama's birth from the Honolulu Advertiser and Hawaii Star-Bulletin newspapers from August 13th and 14th of 1961, and the director of the Hawaii Department of Health says he's "personally seen and verified" that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Obama's "original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedure." Yet, many Republicans still claim Obama was foreign born. In a related story, Senator Lindsey Graham is denying he's a lesbian.

In addition to which all presidential noninees have to be successfully vetted by the CIA, FBI, and DOJ.
I cannot understand why this is still an issue..
Maybe it is I am informed that Obama's biological father is not a kenyan as is popularly reported, but in fact..Malcolm X...
Chew on that a little...

Then he needs to produce that legal document.................What he showed was a BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENT in their paper................stating that there was an original.............which now they say they have thrown away.

They must get their stories together................lets see it.............

I seen an original COB from Hawaaii during the time of Oamba's birth date..............the one that he showed twice (both different) were not authentic..............If he has one, he needs to pull it out.

brutus35 · 07-26-2009, 03:37 AM

[IMG]http

roliberty.com/observer/20070405.htm[/IMG]

Maybe you are right truthseeker, I was going to suggest that maybe the legal authorities did their job, and are satisfied with their findings, but the undermentioned article changed my perspective..just a bit..

Part 1

Deathbed confessions

photos support claims that George H. Scherf(f), Jr., was the 41st U.S. president

According to Otto Skorzeny, pictured is the Scherff family and a few friends (circa 1938). Holding “Mother" Scherff’s hand at left is Martin Bormann. In front is Reinhardt Gehlen. In back is Joseph Mengele and to his right is Skorzeny as a young man.

At center right (in the German navy uniform) is George H. Scherff, Jr. and his father George H. Scherff, Sr. Bormann became Hitler’s second in command. Reinhardt Gehlen was a chief SS officer and assassin who was smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip. Skorzeny was Hitler's bodyguard and SS spy/assassin who came to the U.S. after the war under Project Paperclip. Skorzeny and GHW Bush were instrumental in merging Nazi (SS) intelligence with the OSI to form the CIA with "Wild Bill" Donovan and Allen Dulles.

These guys were also part of CIA mind control experiments such as MK-ULTRA. SS officer and physician Joseph Mengele, the notoriously sadistic “Angel of Death” of Auschwitz, escaped Germany to South America after the war. George H. Scherff, Jr., became the 41st President of the United States as GHW Bush and George H. Scherff, Sr., was Nicola Tesla’s “trusted assistant.”

What you are about to read is another step beyond research pioneered in the early 90s by author/historian Webster Tarpley based largely on deathbed “clues” provided by former Hitler bodyguard Otto Skorzeny and his box of photographs. Since Skorzeny’s death in 1999, the various leads he provided have been followed up and tend to support what, at first blush, would appear to be the unbelievable rantings of an embittered old man.

.

What remains constant as we pore through publicly available official records, private correspondence, memoirs, newspaper articles, photos and other “clues” is that Bush family records (the ones that exist) are a puzzle palace of inconsistencies and curiosities. Since it is a congressionally established fact that Prescott Bush was in business with the Nazis during WWII, we can safely say that the Bush/Nazi connection existed.

Who are the Bushes?

How did they get connected with the Nazis?

Is the connection still alive through U.S. presidents George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush?

The answers are not as literal as we would like them to be. But we have the testimony of Otto Skorzeny and his photos - especially the one above. So, here we go - the first installment of an investigation that points to a curious conclusion:
GHW Bush was a german citizen, and was not qualified to be POTUS..

mntruthseeker · 07-26-2009, 03:53 AM

You got that right , Brutus35

Yes, I read up all the info I could on the treaty, paperclip, Skull and Bone (chilling)

But you certainly taught me something tonight...........I had no idea GHW Bush was a german citizen. Nothing seizes to amaze me now a days. I am going to see what I can find on the other name you printed.

I read quite a bit on the 13 Bloodlines and seen how they "adopt" their children out so people will not connect the dots. I cringe over the bush's name so bypast that bit of news. I found it fascinating and at the same time chilling as parents that have no hearts.

I am better at accepting these people in my life now a days as I realize they are just puppets through their brainwashing jobs same as us in our beliefs.

I have been reading The Truth Will Set You Free by David Icke and I do see what happens to feed into their games...............But I sure love knowing what is happening. His book along with so many people in this forum and others on line that I attend, help me to see the big picture. What a dull life I had before.

Thank you for the information as I will check into this. I also heard that he and his wife were both related to the queen.

They all sort of look alike............same built .

California Schwartzenegger has ties to the Nazi's too. surprise surprise...........my daughter was engaged to a man that attended his wedding and had their pictures taken at the time. His father was Mayor of a small town in Minnesota. He would proudly display that picture and I just wanted to smash it. All I can say now, is I'm glad my daughter broke it off.

I wonder how many others were not citizens. That falls in place with Washington DC being the last Colony, part of Britain in the first place, I do not know this first hand, its just from what I have read. Yes, what a surprise to hear this about good ole GHWBush who just so happens be part of all this.

mntruthseeker · 07-26-2009, 04:12 AM

How did they get connected with the Nazis? In an underground trafficing of cocaine throught the Kennedy's and the CIA.s

William Huntington Russell who says he studied in Germany is the owner of the building where Skull and Bones is carried out.

William Russell and Preston Bush were friends and of course you get the Rothchilds funding the war and boy did they make the money and they were both right in the thick of it in this war.

No one is president unless they are of the bloodline so they are all Kin, its the nationality that is the kicker.

07-17-2009, 12:41 AM	#1
NorthernSanctuary Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 698	Re: Stefan Frederick Cook: Soldier Won't Deploy Over Obama Birth Certificate We should be worried about his health care plan more than the citizenship thing. We should be worried more about forced vaccinations. We should be thinking about the plans that the fallen elite have for us. It's has major ramifications to the US. The president is the commander in chief. If he's not legitimate, he's authority is in jeopardy. All the laws he passed or changed would not be legal, including any forced vaccination. If the US was a 3rd world nation, it'll be a different story.

07-17-2009, 03:10 AM	#3
Northern Boy Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: On this Rock Posts: 1,390	Re: Stefan Frederick Cook: Soldier Won't Deploy Over Obama Birth Certificate Mike in the Morning is a morning radio show out of Detroit and was the number 1 rated morning show there for a number of years Call letters for the show are WRIF- fm 101.1 they were one of the first to start questioning Kwamee Kilpatricks goings on for those that don`t know he was the former mayor of Detroit now behind bars for questionable conduct in the firing of police officers who blew the whistle on the goings on of the mayors security team and other things Last edited by Northern Boy; 07-17-2009 at 05:58 AM.

07-17-2009, 05:48 AM	#4
dolphin Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 277	Re: Stefan Frederick Cook: Soldier Won't Deploy Over Obama Birth Certificate humble janitor, here you go again...beating the same drum how can that just be a "distraction"???? the legitimacy of the presidency is a HUGE issue!

07-19-2009, 03:10 AM	#5
peaceandlove Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 2,776	Re: Stefan Frederick Cook: Soldier Won't Deploy Over Obama Birth Certificate SOURCE: G. Edward Griffin's site: http://www.realityzone.com/currentperiod.html US: Federal judge dismisses soldier's suit challenging legitimacy of Obama's presidency because, a few days ago, his deployment orders to Afghanistan were revoked. Makes no sense but that was the ruling. Ledger Enquirer 2009 July 16 (Cached) FIGURES!!! Hmmmmmm, Clicked on the link at Reality Zone http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/292/s...k=omni_popular and this is what I get: Unfortunately we are unable to locate the page you have requested. This could be due to content on our site having expired, a broken link, an outdated bookmark, or a mistyped address. Please use the navigation provided on this page, or click here to visit our home page. STEVE A....HELP!!! Last edited by peaceandlove; 07-21-2009 at 10:24 AM.

07-19-2009, 03:48 AM	#6
no caste Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Stefan Frederick Cook: Soldier Won't Deploy Over Obama Birth Certificate I was unconcerned, no, disinterested about Obama's citizenship. I just thought, hey, it seems to mean a lot to Americans. Now, if it's the law of the land, it's the law of the land. No exceptions. I stumbled across a list of SO many legal obstructions occurring - to prevent the production of a birth certificate. Obama's supposed to have spent over a million dollars on this. Maybe he/ his mom actually lost it. After all, he was a baby. I'm just asking. But then there would be hospital records, right? Government records (which can be fudged)? Anyway, I did find billboards going up kind of funny Another question, let's say for some reason he's removed from his position for this. What happens then? Is the VP the Prez, and does the new Prez (Gates) appoint a new VP?

07-19-2009, 03:58 AM	#7
no caste Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Stefan Frederick Cook: Soldier Won't Deploy Over Obama Birth Certificate Also, a fair number of these billboards are 'billboards,' i.e. photoshopped. So I don't know if it's a big people's movement, or is it? I read, too, a few soldiers saying it was BS and Stefan Cook was just looking for a way not to deploy. Moreover, why don't didn't people get really upset with George Bush Sr. and the callboy ring - and WHY THIS??!! (Maybe I still don't get why it's so important.)(Sorry.) Last edited by no caste; 07-19-2009 at 04:01 AM.

07-26-2009, 01:13 AM	#8
NorthernSanctuary Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 698	Re: Stefan Frederick Cook: Soldier Won't Deploy Over Obama Birth Certificate Obama was a Fulbright Scholarship recepient for his education at Occidental college in LA...meaning he HAD to be a foreign student to receive the scholarship...provable ONLY by his Birth Certificate. http://fulbright.state.gov/fulbright/about/whyis Why Is the Fulbright Program Unique? In September 1945, the freshman senator from Arkansas, J.William Fulbright, introduced a bill in the U.S. Congress that called for the use of proceeds from the sales of surplus war property to fund the promotion of international good will through the exchange of students in the fields of education, culture and science. One year later President Harry S. Truman signed the bill into law, and the young senator's vision of replacing swords with plowshares found its expression. Today, Fulbright is the most widely recognized and prestigious international exchange program in the world, supported for more than half a century by the American people through an annual appropriation from the U.S. Congress and by the people of partner nations. The program, working with universities, schools, binational Fulbright commissions, government agencies, nongovernmental organizations and the private sector, actively seeks out individuals of achievement and potential who represent the full diversity of their respective societies and selects nominees through open, merit-based competitions. From its inception, the Fulbright Program has fostered bilateral relationships in which other countries and governments work with the U.S. to set joint priorities and shape the program to meet shared needs. The world has been transformed in ensuing decades, but the fundamental principles of international partnership and mutual understanding remain at the core of the Fulbright Program's mission. http://www.oxy.edu/x1985.xml

07-26-2009, 01:27 AM	#9
NorthernSanctuary Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 698	Re: Stefan Frederick Cook: Soldier Won't Deploy Over Obama Birth Certificate Contradictions starting to show up? " Check this out State of Hawaii official Statement October 2008 http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html "Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," ***ino said. Huffingtonn Post and CNN Reponse July 24, 2009 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_244532.html per CNN President John Klein in his response to the Letter: In part, Klein writes, "It seems this story is dead- because anyone who still is not convinced doesn't really have a legitimate beef." Klein asked CNN researchers to dig into the question of why Obama couldn't produce the original birth certificate. The researchers contacted the Hawaii Health Dept. and confirmed that paper documents were discarded in 2001 when the department went paperless. That reportedly includes Pres. Obama's original birth certificate. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...rtificate.html In an email, he said that CNN researchers had determined that Hawaiian officials discarded paper documents in 2001. Because of that, Obama's long-form birth certificate no longer exists and the shorter certificate of live birth that has been made public is the sole official record. "It seems to definitively answer the question," he said. SO WHAT IS IT? WHO IS INVOLVED IN THIS CONSPIRACY TO DEFRAUD THE US AND WHY? CNN, STATE OF HAWAII, THE LIST GOES ON AND ON...Something Stinks to high heaven "

07-26-2009, 02:22 AM	#10
brutus35 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Stone Mountain, GA Posts: 107	Re: Stefan Frederick Cook: Soldier Won't Deploy Over Obama Birth Certificate WHERE WERE YOU BORN? CNN has produced the original announcements of Barack Obama's birth from the Honolulu Advertiser and Hawaii Star-Bulletin newspapers from August 13th and 14th of 1961, and the director of the Hawaii Department of Health says he's "personally seen and verified" that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Obama's "original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedure." Yet, many Republicans still claim Obama was foreign born. In a related story, Senator Lindsey Graham is denying he's a lesbian. In addition to which all presidential noninees have to be successfully vetted by the CIA, FBI, and DOJ. I cannot understand why this is still an issue.. Maybe it is I am informed that Obama's biological father is not a kenyan as is popularly reported, but in fact..Malcolm X... Chew on that a little...

07-26-2009, 03:37 AM	#12
brutus35 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Stone Mountain, GA Posts: 107	Re: Stefan Frederick Cook: Soldier Won't Deploy Over Obama Birth Certificate [IMG]httproliberty.com/observer/20070405.htm[/IMG] Maybe you are right truthseeker, I was going to suggest that maybe the legal authorities did their job, and are satisfied with their findings, but the undermentioned article changed my perspective..just a bit.. Part 1 Deathbed confessions photos support claims that George H. Scherf(f), Jr., was the 41st U.S. president According to Otto Skorzeny, pictured is the Scherff family and a few friends (circa 1938). Holding “Mother" Scherff’s hand at left is Martin Bormann. In front is Reinhardt Gehlen. In back is Joseph Mengele and to his right is Skorzeny as a young man. At center right (in the German navy uniform) is George H. Scherff, Jr. and his father George H. Scherff, Sr. Bormann became Hitler’s second in command. Reinhardt Gehlen was a chief SS officer and assassin who was smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip. Skorzeny was Hitler's bodyguard and SS spy/assassin who came to the U.S. after the war under Project Paperclip. Skorzeny and GHW Bush were instrumental in merging Nazi (SS) intelligence with the OSI to form the CIA with "Wild Bill" Donovan and Allen Dulles. These guys were also part of CIA mind control experiments such as MK-ULTRA. SS officer and physician Joseph Mengele, the notoriously sadistic “Angel of Death” of Auschwitz, escaped Germany to South America after the war. George H. Scherff, Jr., became the 41st President of the United States as GHW Bush and George H. Scherff, Sr., was Nicola Tesla’s “trusted assistant.” What you are about to read is another step beyond research pioneered in the early 90s by author/historian Webster Tarpley based largely on deathbed “clues” provided by former Hitler bodyguard Otto Skorzeny and his box of photographs. Since Skorzeny’s death in 1999, the various leads he provided have been followed up and tend to support what, at first blush, would appear to be the unbelievable rantings of an embittered old man. . What remains constant as we pore through publicly available official records, private correspondence, memoirs, newspaper articles, photos and other “clues” is that Bush family records (the ones that exist) are a puzzle palace of inconsistencies and curiosities. Since it is a congressionally established fact that Prescott Bush was in business with the Nazis during WWII, we can safely say that the Bush/Nazi connection existed. Who are the Bushes? How did they get connected with the Nazis? Is the connection still alive through U.S. presidents George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush? The answers are not as literal as we would like them to be. But we have the testimony of Otto Skorzeny and his photos - especially the one above. So, here we go - the first installment of an investigation that points to a curious conclusion: GHW Bush was a german citizen, and was not qualified to be POTUS.. Last edited by brutus35; 07-26-2009 at 03:46 AM.

07-26-2009, 03:53 AM	#13
mntruthseeker Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,482	Re: Stefan Frederick Cook: Soldier Won't Deploy Over Obama Birth Certificate You got that right , Brutus35 Yes, I read up all the info I could on the treaty, paperclip, Skull and Bone (chilling) But you certainly taught me something tonight...........I had no idea GHW Bush was a german citizen. Nothing seizes to amaze me now a days. I am going to see what I can find on the other name you printed. I read quite a bit on the 13 Bloodlines and seen how they "adopt" their children out so people will not connect the dots. I cringe over the bush's name so bypast that bit of news. I found it fascinating and at the same time chilling as parents that have no hearts. I am better at accepting these people in my life now a days as I realize they are just puppets through their brainwashing jobs same as us in our beliefs. I have been reading The Truth Will Set You Free by David Icke and I do see what happens to feed into their games...............But I sure love knowing what is happening. His book along with so many people in this forum and others on line that I attend, help me to see the big picture. What a dull life I had before. Thank you for the information as I will check into this. I also heard that he and his wife were both related to the queen. They all sort of look alike............same built . California Schwartzenegger has ties to the Nazi's too. surprise surprise...........my daughter was engaged to a man that attended his wedding and had their pictures taken at the time. His father was Mayor of a small town in Minnesota. He would proudly display that picture and I just wanted to smash it. All I can say now, is I'm glad my daughter broke it off. I wonder how many others were not citizens. That falls in place with Washington DC being the last Colony, part of Britain in the first place, I do not know this first hand, its just from what I have read. Yes, what a surprise to hear this about good ole GHWBush who just so happens be part of all this. Last edited by mntruthseeker; 07-26-2009 at 04:00 AM.

07-26-2009, 04:12 AM	#14
mntruthseeker Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,482	Re: Stefan Frederick Cook: Soldier Won't Deploy Over Obama Birth Certificate How did they get connected with the Nazis? In an underground trafficing of cocaine throught the Kennedy's and the CIA.s William Huntington Russell who says he studied in Germany is the owner of the building where Skull and Bones is carried out. William Russell and Preston Bush were friends and of course you get the Rothchilds funding the war and boy did they make the money and they were both right in the thick of it in this war. No one is president unless they are of the bloodline so they are all Kin, its the nationality that is the kicker.