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I don't think he died. I think he was murdered. I don't trust some of the things I've read about the behavior of his doctor.
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Hi Humble Janitor,
I hope Michael Jackson has died as they're burying him tomorrow! I know what you mean though about the doctor. Although I don't beleive that the CIA had anything to do with his demise, there is something not quite right about the situation. The coronor said that he didn't suspect foul play, even though the cause of death was deferred, which is sort of a contradiction in a way. If the cause of death was deferred, foul play shouldn't be ruled out. However, this could have been a ploy to get Doctor Murray to turn up for questioning. As I understand it, Murray didn't have a permit to act as a doctor in California. What disturbs me is that the doctor was 'pumping' Jackson during the 911 call on a bed! Any doctor knows that you need a firm surface, like, as the 911operator advised, the floor. The 911 call was made after Jackson had died. The caller said that the patient was not responding to the 'pumping'. If the doctor was on hand and he knew that Jackson was entering in some sort of problem, before he needed to pump he could have taken Jackson in his own car the seven minutes or so to the hospital. The coronor said that there were no external markings on the body. This is a very important piece of information, as there SHOULD HAVE BEEN external markings on the body, like bruising, possible cracked ribs. Anyone who knows about CPR, knows that it isn't like we see on the TV shows where somebody simply sits on a patient and pushes against the heart. You have to give the heart a shock to try and kick start it and then do the 1, 2, 3's. To give that shock, you have to really hit down hard, so to pass by the sternum bone (well cartlidge) that protects the heart and lungs. So hard in fact that a skinny man like Jackson could quite easily have suffered a broken rib, but at least would have bruising around the sternum area of the chest and this should have been visible. The doctor continued giving CPR for forty minutes when the ambulance arrived, also in the ambulance during its' seven minute journey and even in the hospital, thus eliminating any participation of the paramedics and even for some minutes some of the doctors in the hospital. This to me is also odd. Of course we'll never know if Jackson was taken out by a third person like Murray, or if Murray found Jackson in an unconscious state. Two hypotheses are that Jackson was so depressed and disappointed with the world that he took himself out, or that the people who were involved with those multi million sell out concerts didn't like the fact that Jackson was cancelling the events creating a humongous financial loss. Jackson was after all worth more dead than alive. A third hypothesis is that, of course, Murray is a quack. Time will tell. Best regards, Steve |
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Now there is a version that his chest was bruised....
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Truth will find itself... always ... in time...
Steve don't underestimate the CIA ... They have committed more crimes than you can imagine. Anyway just got this update... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhXoOGH59ZM viking |
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MJ is being buried today and it almost seems the media and the whole world is captivated by this!
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There was a video posted on ATS about Jackson's "ghost". It was too animated to be a shadow and there's a lot of arguing over it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Am67-Sew7k I don't know but I believe in ghosts, have seen a ghost and my first reaction is that it was a ghost, very likely his ghost. |
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Looks like the sun was shinning in the window it could have been anyone walking by outside I don`t believe it was a ghost let alone the ghost of Mchael |
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His memorial was 7/7 if that has any relevance.
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One Step Closer to Solving Jackson Drug Mystery
Posted Jul 15th 2009 5:29PM by TMZ Staff One Step Closer to Solving Jackson Drug MysteryWe've learned the DEA is hot on the trail of finding out who got the powerful anesthesia that may have killed Michael Jackson. As we first reported, law enforcement sources tell us they believe Propofol was the primary cause of Jackson's death. One of the vials of Propofol found at Jackson's home was manufactured by Teva Pharmaceuticals. The DEA contacted Teva to track down the vial in question. Our sources say Teva looked at the lot number of the vial and found some of the vials in the lot went to AmerisourceBergen -- a distributor of the drug. We're told the DEA contacted AmerisourceBergen a few days ago and asked for all sales records of Propofol over a recent two-month period. We're told the DEA is looking to match doctors or other health care providers that obtained the drug with doctors who have some connection to Michael Jackson. |
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found these on my travels....Well it makes you think hey?!!
"Gregory says he asked Jackson when the last time he ate was, because he didn't look well, and that Jackson told him -- quote -- "They're trying to poison me." He asked him when he last drank water, and he said Jackson told him again -- quote -- "They're trying to kill me." - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJi2H...layer_embedded If you are still in doubt...please listen to the second video starting at 4 min 41 secs!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iki6r...layer_embedded viking Last edited by viking; 07-25-2009 at 10:16 AM. |
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I always thought his songs carried the right messages... viking |
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I read some where that MJ was going to spill the beans and inform the world about their plan of Genocide . I thought maybe, but when i watched the rehearsal video and heard the song that he was doing I felt he more than likely was and we know they can`t have that .
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Yes I read that as well...I find it amazing that he mentioned that we have all been taught the wrong stuff at school!! ... He knew more than we realize...
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I'm not sure because looking at those lyrics, they don't really present anything more than disllusionment with the system, which has shown up in many songs.
I don't even know how to play music backwards, nor could I hear the backwards messages. And how strong is the connection between Michael and Jane Burgermeister? Is there a list out there of artists who have spoken out so that I may weed out the ones that haven't and the ones that that I feel don't resonate with me? I've always seen/felt subliminal messages in Pink Floyd songs that I feel are there to help one awaken. Regardless, on the topic of Michael Jackson, his death is not merely a distraction. It's only a distraction if you see it on the surface. Peel back the layers and you'll see that it's highly suspicious, untimely and mirrors the deaths of other celebrities who were said to know too much. Also, how does one get vitiligo anyway? Is it hereditary? Was it ever explained on how Michael contracted it? I just have to ask questions now because I can't blindly go along with what I read on a website. Last edited by Humble Janitor; 07-27-2009 at 01:04 AM. |
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Have any of mj's friends or family members spoken out? I just wondered if others around him knew anything.
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I believe La Toya...
here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...elt-start.html and here http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news...foul-play.html viking |
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Viking so his family believe that he was mudered! Well I don't think that the truth will be illuminated :-( sadly, I do hope that they have a chance of finding peace.
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![]() Especially when you read in between the lines of what's going on... Have you listened to this? please listen starting at 4 min 41 secs!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iki6r...layer_embedded viking |
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Call me what ever you like Viking
, will have a look at link later when I have more time.Bou x
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