A gypsy's curse

tone3jaguar · 06-12-2009, 01:09 AM

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A curse is simply a ritual form of focussed intent with the aim of manifesting harm in the form of some unwanted outcome.

No, that is a spell. A curse is when higher dimensional entities are assigned to you to screw up your timeline for the rest of your life and all of your life times to come.

Swanny, I have dealt with a curse before and the one thing I can tell you about them is that they rely completely on their covert nature. An actual highly trained individual from some form of the negative mystery schools weather it is gypsy or not, is not going to tell you what they are doing. If they have to tell you then they are playing psychological games with you and are full of it. Curses are advanced level stuff and only the people with the secret ancient knowledge from long ago can do them.

Black magic practitioners do break the rules from time to time. However, in doing so they are risking huge backlash karma on themselves.

06-12-2009, 01:23 AM

Someone once told me the best way to not be bothered by demons was not to believe in them. I think it's the same principle with curses, you can actually manifest them with your fear.

14 Chakras · 06-12-2009, 03:56 AM

My understanding is, that almost anyone can send bad energy your way, including a curse or whatnot. It comes down to your own vibration and illusions as to whether the negative energy / entity will stick or not. The higher you come consciously, and the more illusions you surrender, the less effective any negative energy sent your way is going to be at tripping you up.

That being said, I have found personally that the strongest protection against negative energy is forming a relationship with Archangel Michael and calling to him to cut you lose from any and all dark forces and energy that is interfering with you and protect you from any that could. There's nothing more powerful you can do than forming a relationship with this cosmic being who is the protector of humanity (within their own free will).

If you are serious about breaking away from any negative energy that is bothering you, I personally suggest doing this rosary to Archangel Michael a few times (as in a few times over a period of time, like a week, or a month etc.):

http://www.mothermarysgarden.com/J_A...9Michael10.pdf

I found it worked very well for me and the purpose of it is not only to help you and protect your energy field, but also to help the world and allow Archangel Michael to work closer in the world and clear up the baddies who are working against the evolution of mankind.

tone3jaguar · 06-12-2009, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepingnomore

Someone once told me the best way to not be bothered by demons was not to believe in them. I think it's the same principle with curses, you can actually manifest them with your fear.

Who ever told you that never met a demon, and never had a curse put on them. I did not believe in curses when I was young. That did not stop someone from putting one on me that I did not even know was there until 15 years later in a huge ah ha moment. Curses are rare, they are direct interfearance from the higher dimensions. This is why they hardly ever try them. If they do something like this to an innocent like I was, then they risk getting their asses handed to them down the road by the target if they ever break free from it. Trust me, I was allowed to do way more damage to their metaphysical infrastructure than most individuals that have done battle with the kinds of people who would wield such a thing as a curse. I crippled them.

All of that being said, I chose to have the curse put on me before I was incarnated for the steep learning curve that it would provide or else it would not have happened.

Anchor · 06-12-2009, 05:30 AM

tone3jaguar: I conceed your definition is correct.

I was however referring to the common perception of a "gypsy-curse", normally depicted as some old hag, mouthing malintent. Which, I agree is not really the same thing as a full-on curse. Eitherway, I have ammended my post with a more correct usage.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by encarta

curse noun (plural curs·es)

Definition:
1. swearword: a swearword, obscenity, or blasphemous oath
2. evil prayer: a malevolent appeal to a supernatural being for harm to come to somebody or something, or the harm that is thought to result from this
3. source of harm: a cause of unhappiness or harm the curse of poverty
4. menstruation: menstruation or a menstrual period ( dated slang )
5. christianity history religious ban: an ecclesiastical pronouncement of censure or excommunication

interjection curs·es
Definition:
used as oath: used to express irritation or annoyance

verb (past and past participle cursed, present participle curs·ing, 3rd person present singular curs·es)
Definition:
1. transitive and intransitive verb swear: to utter swearwords or obscenities at somebody
2. transitive verb wish evil on somebody: to appeal malevolently to a supernatural being for harm to come to somebody or something

Unified Serenity · 06-12-2009, 06:35 AM

She is probably of the community that believes in the "Evil Eye". For them, it is to look upon someone with evil intent. They wear talisman's to ward off the "evil eye".

You do strip power from something by not believing in it, but you wont make an entity cease to exist just because you don't believe in it. I agree that you have given this "curse" power just by the question you asked. If you really want to have a positive relationship and marriage I suggest you envision yourself surrounded by light, take a salt bath, let go of any ill intents you have ever done, offer peace to all, and let go of all entanglements upon you, your spirit, mind and body and see them going down the drain after you rise from the water and pull the plug in the tub.

Just a lil exercise that often works wonders if done in faith and simple meditation.

TraineeHuman · 06-12-2009, 07:04 AM

Even if that gypsy was powerful, it sounds like her response was very overblown, considering that you were just maybe doing something like making a little noise that upset her concentration for a moment, or whatever it was you did that annoyed her. (Maybe the gypsy was just jealous of your looks or something, Swanny?) So I would question how powerful such a curse could be. That would strongly tend to suggest that her curse doesn't have much to do with your current lack of a life partner. Because the curse was an exaggerated thing to do, most of it would have bounced right back onto the gypsy and not you. If I hand you a bomb with a burning fuse and you casually say: "Not really, thanks" and hand it back, then I'm left holding that bomb, without the time to find anybody else to hand it to. I mean, I take it the gypsy didn't have a sample of your hair or anything like that for her to spend time trying to make her curse stick.

In my experience everybody subconsciously puts curses on others at some stage. Far more often than people generally realise. Whenever somebody learns to be telepathic (i.e., unlearns not being so), they're initially amazed by how much subsconscious negativity and junk they discover most people's minds keep spewing out. Again, that's another reason not to be as concerned as it seems you currently are.

Finally, I know that the effects of even the most powerful black magician's curses can be overcome by healing yourself of their effects every day.

Swanny · 06-12-2009, 10:15 AM

Thx I will do all that has been said here. From now on that silly old gypo no longer has power over my life

rhythm · 06-12-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Swanny

Thx I will do all that has been said here. From now on that silly old gypo no longer has power over my life

good on yer swan i new you were a real STAR......

06-12-2009, 01:49 PM

A curse or a Sort in french is a gemotric energy that changes your interaction with the part of your personality or energy exchange that you have with the rest of the world. Then when you apply the normal actions to that part of your life, the reverse happens or a distortion to the reality of the energy that is presented to the reciever. This geomettric form can be apply to many parts of your life, Money personal relationships. Work, health etc. The person doing the curse may not totally understand what they are doing or even know the have done it.

If the source is from a trained source then negociation is the only way to lift such a thing, due to the fact that the curse only works, as said before, with the participation of the person. This then give srise to the question that what you are recieving can come partly from your own doing.
The use of the karmic will is where the curse is place.

To take off the thing you will need to know what form it takes and and then which is the best way of dealing with it. The majority of curses I have dealt with comes through the second form that I just described. Then you will find something like a book of accounts. It is a case of closing the account and each taking their part of the book so the filter or geometric shape is removed and you return to a natural state of interaction.

Give me a shout if you want to do something on the skype with it tom.lawless is the user name.

Hows life in Wiltshire. from the new forest just down the road. but now in France. Say hello to the old place for me.

tone3jaguar · 06-12-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lawlessline

A curse or a Sort in french is a gemotric energy that changes your interaction with the part of your personality or energy exchange that you have with the rest of the world. Then when you apply the normal actions to that part of your life, the reverse happens or a distortion to the reality of the energy that is presented to the reciever. This geomettric form can be apply to many parts of your life, Money personal relationships. Work, health etc. The person doing the curse may not totally understand what they are doing or even know the have done it.

If the source is from a trained source then negociation is the only way to lift such a thing, due to the fact that the curse only works, as said before, with the participation of the person. This then give srise to the question that what you are recieving can come partly from your own doing.
The use of the karmic will is where the curse is place.

To take off the thing you will need to know what form it takes and and then which is the best way of dealing with it. The majority of curses I have dealt with comes through the second form that I just described. Then you will find something like a book of accounts. It is a case of closing the account and each taking their part of the book so the filter or geometric shape is removed and you return to a natural state of interaction.

Give me a shout if you want to do something on the skype with it tom.lawless is the user name.

Hows life in Wiltshire. from the new forest just down the road. but now in France. Say hello to the old place for me.

Interesting perspective, resonates with the truth. I may have very well had some inverting geometry attached to my Merkeba during my curse. Exactly what you described was taking place. The law of attraction worked oppisite on me the entire time. In addition to the geometry was also a manipulation the part of the DNA that is responsible for the programming of your fate. And layered on top of this where heavily veiled lower 6th density off world entities that had some sort of control structure attached to me.

I also agree that the curse is part of an individuals Karma if they have a curse. If you are behind in your lifetimes in learning spiritual lessons like I was then the curse serves the purpose of teaching you spiritual lessons from the open end of a fire hose.

I still do not think that Swanny has any spell or curse on him from the "Gypsy". I think the Gypsy was a great big faker putting on a show so others would buy her garbage. What better way to motivate buyers than to scare the **** out of them.

tone3jaguar · 06-12-2009, 02:13 PM

Lawlessline!!!!

Holy **** you just help me find the last layer of the curse cake that I had on me for all of those years. I had reversed all the other aspects of it, but I did not know to ask about the geometry. I just checked with the pendulum and the inverting geometry was still there!!!!!!!!!!!

I just had it removed by my guides. They all ways wait around for me to figure stuff out before they do anything about it. I guess that is how I learn.

This should be very interesting to see how my intention begins to function now. I knew something still was not quite right. Thanks!!!!!!!!

06-12-2009, 11:12 PM

[QUOTE=tone3jaguar;144629]Lawlessline!!!!

/QUOTE]

Man great to be a part of a moment for you.
keep it going.

asteram · 06-12-2009, 11:35 PM

Dear Swanny-

Will you marry me? California's out, but Massachusetts is still OK, I think. It's never too late!

Swanny · 06-13-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by asteram

Dear Swanny-

Will you marry me? California's out, but Massachusetts is still OK, I think. It's never too late!

Sorry you're not my type

Great thread very interesting

mudra · 06-13-2009, 05:24 PM

I sometimes think of life as a book we wrote from full consciousness before stepping into the play and assume the roles we have chosen in order to learn things or rather how to learn them .
The people we meet, the situations we are finding ourselves in, the interests we have are all part of a plot we layed down.The plot has some main guide lines from which we make choices . And we play the same piece a number of times until we grasp and master everything we need to know . This would account for the feeling of " déjà vu " that we sometimes experience. In that sense everything that happens to us is welcome . There is no need to fear anything or to defend oneself against but only remember we wrote the story in the first place so rather go with it and follow the flow and be wise enough to go round the traps we ourselves have layed down

Kindness
mudra

mudra · 06-13-2009, 05:44 PM

“Only those who truly love and who are truly strong can sustain their lives as a dream. You dwell in your own enchantment. Life throws stones at you, but your love and your dream change those stones into the flowers of discovery. Even if you lose, or are defeated by things, your triumph will always be exemplary. And if no one knows it, then there are places that do. People like you enrich the dreams of the worlds, and it is dreams that create history. People like you are unknowing transformers of things, protected by your own fairy-tale, by love.”
~ Ben Okri (1959)

Kindness
mudra

rhythm · 06-13-2009, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mudra

“Only those who truly love and who are truly strong can sustain their lives as a dream. You dwell in your own enchantment. Life throws stones at you, but your love and your dream change those stones into the flowers of discovery. Even if you lose, or are defeated by things, your triumph will always be exemplary. And if no one knows it, then there are places that do. People like you enrich the dreams of the worlds, and it is dreams that create history. People like you are unknowing transformers of things, protected by your own fairy-tale, by love.”
~ Ben Okri (1959)

Kindness
mudra

Mudra WONDERFULL WONDERFULL

SO TRUE DEAR !!!!!!

Unified Serenity · 06-13-2009, 06:06 PM

Amon is a demon of wrath. I doubt you employed his aid. Just a hunch is all.

Jacqui D · 06-13-2009, 08:48 PM

Hi Swanny, well i will tell you something my grandfather was Romany, my grand mother married in to the gypsy family, however although i do not doubt that they can do this, my grandmother had an ability to scare the hell out of someone if they crossed her, but that would have to be something really bad, the gypsies would not curse you for such a mundane thing.
The only curse that attacks families 6 generations are those who choose the fraternity of masons.
Once one joins that curses ones family 6 generations back 6 forwards The gypsies are really a friendly lot and i don't believe they would do something maliciously, but cross my path!!!!!! no only kidding lol!
That's pure evil doing something like that cursing you and saying that!
I hope you didn't take it to heart, you just haven't found the right girl yet!
But as was said before why worry about getting married it's only a piece of paper, just enjoy life don't get tied down to no one, live your life without the worry of a possible divorce a few years down the line.

I hope you find someone Swanny, good luck!

Moxie · 06-13-2009, 09:53 PM

I appreciate the sharing of the ArchAngel Michael "rosary", although I don't like the word rosary and am not affiliated w/any organized religion either. And my view of the Ultimate Creator is not personfied as shape & form. And it never occurred to me to call on another 'being' such as Michael, but I gave it a go yesterday and this morning awakened w/such a grateful heart that I wept for several minutes, filled w/gratitude.

I don't know what forces are attached to me, but it must be one or more humdingers as I've had some pretty serious experiences and have entertained the idea that I have a "negative attachment" and I could use some protection.

I really appreciate the thumbs up about AA Michael from you too Tone3... and I'll check out Amun. Maybe we, well, someone other than me (lol) should start a thread that others can share what protection techniques they use. I'd really be interested.

Jacqui D · 06-13-2009, 10:03 PM

A good protection Moxie is the golden light, not white light but the golden light.
If you place yourself in a golden sphere all will be well.
If you want to know more pm me and i will explain how to do it.
What i will say is Amun ; ie Amen also used at the end of prayers is Amen Ra the sun god.
Basically when you pray and say the words Amen you are opening yourself up to Amen Ra giving him permission (allowing him) to enter.
This is not the creator but the sun god Ra.
Really we do not have to pray as such we have to re connect with the Creator no words will help but knowing, feeling your intuition, we are all connected to the creators love, via soul when you resonate on those terms you will awaken more and will receive the creators love and protection.

tone3jaguar · 06-13-2009, 11:30 PM

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A good protection Moxie is the golden light, not white light but the golden light.
If you place yourself in a golden sphere all will be well.

That does work well. I like to meditate on filling my entire house with liquid golden white light that floods in from the floor and fills the house up. Then it flows out of the house and creates a dome of liquid golden white light. The bad guys cant penetrate it. It is like us trying to take a space walk without a suit.

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What i will say is Amun ; ie Amen also used at the end of prayers is Amen Ra the sun god.

Not the same deity here are the descriptions off the two from my book "The Encyclopedia of Gods"

Amun

Origin: Egypt. Supreme Creator God

Amun is a sun god, lord of (the sky and king off the Egyptian world. He is perceived as a primeval deity present in chaos at the creation of the cosmos and is therefore also one of the eight deities of the Ogdoad coupled with the goddess Amaunet and representing hidden power.

There are 6 gods from Japanese Shinto that start out with the Words Amen. There are none others listed.

Ra is not the same beings as Amun

Ra (Re)

Origin: Egypt. Creator God and Sun God

One of several manifestations of the sun god and creator god of Egypt. Closely linked with the underworld god Osiris, the notion took shape that the combined deity was Ra by day as the sun and became Osiris, lord of the western Horizon at the onset of night.

So they are similar in the idea that they are both beings that where worshiped by cultures that worshiped the sun. However, they are essentially different beings at different stages of cosmic evolution.

FROM WIKIPEDIA ABOUT AMEN

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The word Amen (pronounced /ˌɑːˈmɛn/ or /ˌeɪˈmɛn/; Hebrew: אָמֵן, Modern Amen Tiberian ’Amen ; Arabic: آمين‎, ’Āmīn ; "So be it; truly" is a declaration of affirmation[1][2] found in the Hebrew Bible and New Testament. Its use in Judaism dates back to its earliest texts.[3] It has been generally adopted in Christian worship as a concluding word for prayers and hymns.[2] In Islam, it is the standard ending to Dua (supplication). Common English translations of the word amen include: "Verily", "Truly", "So be it", and "Let it be." It can also be used colloquially to express strong agreement,[2] as in, for instance, amen to that.[4]

14 Chakras · 06-14-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Moxie

I appreciate the sharing of the ArchAngel Michael "rosary", although I don't like the word rosary and am not affiliated w/any organized religion either. And my view of the Ultimate Creator is not personfied as shape & form. And it never occurred to me to call on another 'being' such as Michael, but I gave it a go yesterday and this morning awakened w/such a grateful heart that I wept for several minutes, filled w/gratitude.

I don't know what forces are attached to me, but it must be one or more humdingers as I've had some pretty serious experiences and have entertained the idea that I have a "negative attachment" and I could use some protection.

We live in a very toxic environment on this planet. Unfortunately, this planet is not yet heaven on earth and their is a huge amount of negative energy, entities, light suckers moving around this world unseen by our 5 senses.

We have an energy field that can be broken into, shattered, disapated, etc. and there is more than enough 'hungry ghost' out there that want a piece of our light and are waiting for any opportunity to sneak in to us, think for us, drag us down and steal our energy.

That's what spiritual protection is all about, keeping us protected in this very toxic environment we find ourselves in.

For example, we don't see germs, but we wash our hands. We don't see entities but we should protect our energy fields if we don't want to get sick consciously the same way we wash our hands to not get sick physically.

That's a wonderful experience Moxie, thank you for sharing. I find experiences like that are sign post along the spiritual path to show us we're moving in the right direction. It's easy for our ego to write them off, but that's where we lose out. We must keep climbing and moving forward and know that we will get the signs at the right times along the way...

Triaxis · 06-16-2009, 02:38 PM

Well it all boils down to belief doesn't it?

Desire (or fear) backed by belief equals reality?

Like Reiki for example. Is it the power symbols that create the desired effect, or the belief that the power symbols create the desired effect?

You can call to the angels, practice Rieki or Kathara, , or breath this way or use this shade of light in that way, or simply pray at the end of the bed.

Providing they are backed by belief, they are all equally as powerful are they not?

06-12-2009, 01:23 AM	#2
sleepingnomore Guest Posts: n/a	Re: A gypsy's curse Someone once told me the best way to not be bothered by demons was not to believe in them. I think it's the same principle with curses, you can actually manifest them with your fear.

06-12-2009, 03:56 AM	#3
14 Chakras Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 832	Re: A gypsy's curse My understanding is, that almost anyone can send bad energy your way, including a curse or whatnot. It comes down to your own vibration and illusions as to whether the negative energy / entity will stick or not. The higher you come consciously, and the more illusions you surrender, the less effective any negative energy sent your way is going to be at tripping you up. That being said, I have found personally that the strongest protection against negative energy is forming a relationship with Archangel Michael and calling to him to cut you lose from any and all dark forces and energy that is interfering with you and protect you from any that could. There's nothing more powerful you can do than forming a relationship with this cosmic being who is the protector of humanity (within their own free will). If you are serious about breaking away from any negative energy that is bothering you, I personally suggest doing this rosary to Archangel Michael a few times (as in a few times over a period of time, like a week, or a month etc.): http://www.mothermarysgarden.com/J_A...9Michael10.pdf I found it worked very well for me and the purpose of it is not only to help you and protect your energy field, but also to help the world and allow Archangel Michael to work closer in the world and clear up the baddies who are working against the evolution of mankind. Last edited by 14 Chakras; 06-12-2009 at 03:59 AM.

06-12-2009, 06:35 AM	#6
Unified Serenity Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 893	Re: A gypsy's curse She is probably of the community that believes in the "Evil Eye". For them, it is to look upon someone with evil intent. They wear talisman's to ward off the "evil eye". You do strip power from something by not believing in it, but you wont make an entity cease to exist just because you don't believe in it. I agree that you have given this "curse" power just by the question you asked. If you really want to have a positive relationship and marriage I suggest you envision yourself surrounded by light, take a salt bath, let go of any ill intents you have ever done, offer peace to all, and let go of all entanglements upon you, your spirit, mind and body and see them going down the drain after you rise from the water and pull the plug in the tub. Just a lil exercise that often works wonders if done in faith and simple meditation.

06-12-2009, 07:04 AM	#7
TraineeHuman Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 174	Re: A gypsy's curse Even if that gypsy was powerful, it sounds like her response was very overblown, considering that you were just maybe doing something like making a little noise that upset her concentration for a moment, or whatever it was you did that annoyed her. (Maybe the gypsy was just jealous of your looks or something, Swanny?) So I would question how powerful such a curse could be. That would strongly tend to suggest that her curse doesn't have much to do with your current lack of a life partner. Because the curse was an exaggerated thing to do, most of it would have bounced right back onto the gypsy and not you. If I hand you a bomb with a burning fuse and you casually say: "Not really, thanks" and hand it back, then I'm left holding that bomb, without the time to find anybody else to hand it to. I mean, I take it the gypsy didn't have a sample of your hair or anything like that for her to spend time trying to make her curse stick. In my experience everybody subconsciously puts curses on others at some stage. Far more often than people generally realise. Whenever somebody learns to be telepathic (i.e., unlearns not being so), they're initially amazed by how much subsconscious negativity and junk they discover most people's minds keep spewing out. Again, that's another reason not to be as concerned as it seems you currently are. Finally, I know that the effects of even the most powerful black magician's curses can be overcome by healing yourself of their effects every day.

06-12-2009, 10:15 AM	#8
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: A gypsy's curse Thx I will do all that has been said here. From now on that silly old gypo no longer has power over my life

06-12-2009, 01:49 PM	#10
lawlessline Guest Posts: n/a	Re: A gypsy's curse A curse or a Sort in french is a gemotric energy that changes your interaction with the part of your personality or energy exchange that you have with the rest of the world. Then when you apply the normal actions to that part of your life, the reverse happens or a distortion to the reality of the energy that is presented to the reciever. This geomettric form can be apply to many parts of your life, Money personal relationships. Work, health etc. The person doing the curse may not totally understand what they are doing or even know the have done it. If the source is from a trained source then negociation is the only way to lift such a thing, due to the fact that the curse only works, as said before, with the participation of the person. This then give srise to the question that what you are recieving can come partly from your own doing. The use of the karmic will is where the curse is place. To take off the thing you will need to know what form it takes and and then which is the best way of dealing with it. The majority of curses I have dealt with comes through the second form that I just described. Then you will find something like a book of accounts. It is a case of closing the account and each taking their part of the book so the filter or geometric shape is removed and you return to a natural state of interaction. Give me a shout if you want to do something on the skype with it tom.lawless is the user name. Hows life in Wiltshire. from the new forest just down the road. but now in France. Say hello to the old place for me. Last edited by lawlessline; 06-12-2009 at 01:52 PM.

06-12-2009, 02:13 PM	#12
tone3jaguar Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: www.altimatrix.com Posts: 1,525	Re: A gypsy's curse Lawlessline!!!! Holy **** you just help me find the last layer of the curse cake that I had on me for all of those years. I had reversed all the other aspects of it, but I did not know to ask about the geometry. I just checked with the pendulum and the inverting geometry was still there!!!!!!!!!!! I just had it removed by my guides. They all ways wait around for me to figure stuff out before they do anything about it. I guess that is how I learn. This should be very interesting to see how my intention begins to function now. I knew something still was not quite right. Thanks!!!!!!!!

06-12-2009, 11:12 PM	#13
lawlessline Guest Posts: n/a	Re: A gypsy's curse [QUOTE=tone3jaguar;144629]Lawlessline!!!! /QUOTE] Man great to be a part of a moment for you. keep it going.

06-12-2009, 11:35 PM	#14
asteram Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Isla de Margarita, Venezuela Posts: 161	Re: A gypsy's curse Dear Swanny- Will you marry me? California's out, but Massachusetts is still OK, I think. It's never too late!

06-13-2009, 05:24 PM	#16
mudra Avalon Spiritual Mother Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: belgium Posts: 4,919	Re: A gypsy's curse I sometimes think of life as a book we wrote from full consciousness before stepping into the play and assume the roles we have chosen in order to learn things or rather how to learn them . The people we meet, the situations we are finding ourselves in, the interests we have are all part of a plot we layed down.The plot has some main guide lines from which we make choices . And we play the same piece a number of times until we grasp and master everything we need to know . This would account for the feeling of " déjà vu " that we sometimes experience. In that sense everything that happens to us is welcome . There is no need to fear anything or to defend oneself against but only remember we wrote the story in the first place so rather go with it and follow the flow and be wise enough to go round the traps we ourselves have layed down Kindness mudra

06-13-2009, 05:44 PM	#17
mudra Avalon Spiritual Mother Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: belgium Posts: 4,919	Re: A gypsy's curse “Only those who truly love and who are truly strong can sustain their lives as a dream. You dwell in your own enchantment. Life throws stones at you, but your love and your dream change those stones into the flowers of discovery. Even if you lose, or are defeated by things, your triumph will always be exemplary. And if no one knows it, then there are places that do. People like you enrich the dreams of the worlds, and it is dreams that create history. People like you are unknowing transformers of things, protected by your own fairy-tale, by love.” ~ Ben Okri (1959) Kindness mudra

06-13-2009, 06:06 PM	#19
Unified Serenity Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 893	Re: A gypsy's curse Amon is a demon of wrath. I doubt you employed his aid. Just a hunch is all.

06-13-2009, 08:48 PM	#20
Jacqui D Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kent,England Posts: 1,267	Re: A gypsy's curse Hi Swanny, well i will tell you something my grandfather was Romany, my grand mother married in to the gypsy family, however although i do not doubt that they can do this, my grandmother had an ability to scare the hell out of someone if they crossed her, but that would have to be something really bad, the gypsies would not curse you for such a mundane thing. The only curse that attacks families 6 generations are those who choose the fraternity of masons. Once one joins that curses ones family 6 generations back 6 forwards The gypsies are really a friendly lot and i don't believe they would do something maliciously, but cross my path!!!!!! no only kidding lol! That's pure evil doing something like that cursing you and saying that! I hope you didn't take it to heart, you just haven't found the right girl yet! But as was said before why worry about getting married it's only a piece of paper, just enjoy life don't get tied down to no one, live your life without the worry of a possible divorce a few years down the line. I hope you find someone Swanny, good luck!

06-13-2009, 09:53 PM	#21
Moxie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Beaver Lake, AR Posts: 402	Re: A gypsy's curse I appreciate the sharing of the ArchAngel Michael "rosary", although I don't like the word rosary and am not affiliated w/any organized religion either. And my view of the Ultimate Creator is not personfied as shape & form. And it never occurred to me to call on another 'being' such as Michael, but I gave it a go yesterday and this morning awakened w/such a grateful heart that I wept for several minutes, filled w/gratitude. I don't know what forces are attached to me, but it must be one or more humdingers as I've had some pretty serious experiences and have entertained the idea that I have a "negative attachment" and I could use some protection. I really appreciate the thumbs up about AA Michael from you too Tone3... and I'll check out Amun. Maybe we, well, someone other than me (lol) should start a thread that others can share what protection techniques they use. I'd really be interested.

06-13-2009, 10:03 PM	#22
Jacqui D Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kent,England Posts: 1,267	Re: A gypsy's curse A good protection Moxie is the golden light, not white light but the golden light. If you place yourself in a golden sphere all will be well. If you want to know more pm me and i will explain how to do it. What i will say is Amun ; ie Amen also used at the end of prayers is Amen Ra the sun god. Basically when you pray and say the words Amen you are opening yourself up to Amen Ra giving him permission (allowing him) to enter. This is not the creator but the sun god Ra. Really we do not have to pray as such we have to re connect with the Creator no words will help but knowing, feeling your intuition, we are all connected to the creators love, via soul when you resonate on those terms you will awaken more and will receive the creators love and protection.

06-16-2009, 02:38 PM	#25
Triaxis Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 31	Re: A gypsy's curse Well it all boils down to belief doesn't it? Desire (or fear) backed by belief equals reality? Like Reiki for example. Is it the power symbols that create the desired effect, or the belief that the power symbols create the desired effect? You can call to the angels, practice Rieki or Kathara, , or breath this way or use this shade of light in that way, or simply pray at the end of the bed. Providing they are backed by belief, they are all equally as powerful are they not?