SHIVA the destroyer statue at CERN

[Egg]

http://cerncourier.com/cws/article/c.../cernpeo9_7-04

From the official CERN news letter - see it for yourself.

So, what are they planning on doing at CERN again?

[avyaktam]

It is an operation by the Indian secret service to destroy CERN.

[Lorien]

When the LHC rips a fabric in our universe, Shiva will come to life and destroy us all.

[777 The Great Work]

Shi va -Chi va =double edge sword.

Destroy- Restore

[Egg]

CERN with a SHIVA statue. I am not denigrating any religion here, but having a statue of the God figure of destruction at a lab where many fear space and time could be ripped with fatal consequences is just pushing the 'symbology' a bit far IMHO.

[777 The Great Work]

Originally Posted by Egg

CERN with a SHIVA statue. I am not denigrating any religion here, but having a statue of the God figure of destruction at a lab where many fear space and time could be ripped with fatal consequences is just pushing the 'symbology' a bit far IMHO.

Egg , what i was saying is that Shiva has a dual nature,thats all.There is always two sides to a coin ,and klinging only to one side ,causes us to suffer. Thats all i was saying Mr. egg. My work is done here, i go quietly with my SChiva.

[Carmen]

I love what Shiva represents. I have a bronze Shiva and I bought at a particular time in my learning. It was a milestone for me. One that showed me some progress in my spiritual development.

My Shiva sits on a tiger. The tiger represents the lower nature of man and woman, the animal nature in other words. It is the coming together of the male and female parts of a person in the fourth centre, seal or chakra. When this happens the person is balanced in their male and female aspects and is coming from the heart, the fourth centre. Not sure of all the symbolism but I do know that the beads around the neck represent pearls of wisdom. 777 , you may be able to fill us in on other aspects of the Shiva symbolism. Love Shiva, love what it represents and its nothing to do with religion for me.

Love and LIght

Carmen

[avyaktam]

Originally Posted by Egg

CERN with a SHIVA statue. I am not denigrating any religion here, but having a statue of the God figure of destruction at a lab where many fear space and time could be ripped with fatal consequences is just pushing the 'symbology' a bit far IMHO.

Destruction is part of cyclus; what about destroying ignorance?

[777 The Great Work]

Masculinity and femininity,Left and Right brain,together forms the whole being and an ideal person is the one who has integrated in equal measure both. Usually one (ego) conflicts with the other and that is the cause of our misery! Like Carmen said , she is the cosmic dancer.
Though you see one image, she represents both energies.The one does not xsist without the other.

The clue is always in the sounds of the vowels.It is the vowels through which the God dess manifest.Shiva = Sheva or S- he- va both male and fe -male energies in a cosmic dance.

[Carmen]

Thats wonderful 777. I'd never noticed that before. Ta

Love

Carmen

[Egg]

Originally Posted by Carmen

Thats wonderful 777. I'd never noticed that before. Ta

Love

Carmen

I'll second that, and admit my ignorance about SHIVA. I am now corrected.

Wonder why then the USA called their electrical weapon system SHIVA STAR?

[777 The Great Work]

Originally Posted by Egg

I'll second that, and admit my ignorance about SHIVA. I am now corrected.

Wonder why then the USA called their electrical weapon system SHIVA STAR?

Now this is a question that requires its own post. I will say this,the Shiva star is the dog star Sirius. You wouldn't believe the secret of this star. The clue is the Key in St peter's hand at the Vatican. I am working on a post now about this ,that i will place in the Chi thread.

The Cern project is just pulling Chi, thats free to all.

[avyaktam]

777 This little thread shows that together were are stronger than as single individuals.

A special plaque next to the Shiva statue at CERN explains the significance of the metaphor of Shiva's cosmic dance with several quotations from The Tao of Physics. Here is the text of the plaque:

Ananda K. Coomaraswamy, seeing beyond the unsurpassed rhythm, beauty, power and grace of the Nataraja, once wrote of it "It is the clearest image of the activity of God which any art or religion can boast of."

More recently, Fritjof Capra explained that "Modern physics has shown that the rhythm of creation and destruction is not only manifest in the turn of the seasons and in the birth and death of all living creatures, but is also the very essence of inorganic matter," and that "For the modern physicists, then, Shiva's dance is the dance of subatomic matter."

It is indeed as Capra concluded: "Hundreds of years ago, Indian artists created visual images of dancing Shivas in a beautiful series of bronzes. In our time, physicists have used the most advanced technology to portray the patterns of the cosmic dance. The metaphor of the cosmic dance thus unifies ancient mythology, religious art and modern physics."

[777 The Great Work]

Originally Posted by avyaktam

777 This little thread shows that together were are stronger than as single individuals.

A special plaque next to the Shiva statue at CERN explains the significance of the metaphor of Shiva's cosmic dance with several quotations from The Tao of Physics. Here is the text of the plaque:

Ananda K. Coomaraswamy, seeing beyond the unsurpassed rhythm, beauty, power and grace of the Nataraja, once wrote of it "It is the clearest image of the activity of God which any art or religion can boast of."

More recently, Fritjof Capra explained that "Modern physics has shown that the rhythm of creation and destruction is not only manifest in the turn of the seasons and in the birth and death of all living creatures, but is also the very essence of inorganic matter," and that "For the modern physicists, then, Shiva's dance is the dance of subatomic matter."

It is indeed as Capra concluded: "Hundreds of years ago, Indian artists created visual images of dancing Shivas in a beautiful series of bronzes. In our time, physicists have used the most advanced technology to portray the patterns of the cosmic dance. The metaphor of the cosmic dance thus unifies ancient mythology, religious art and modern physics."

Nice find, we are indeed stronger together.

[Egg]

I iz now learnt!

Crikey, looks like my religious knowledge is lacking badly. Cheers for the up date.

[Orion11]

i Shiva. lol

[Dantheman62]

Shiva is one of the oldest gods of India. Images of him have been found dated to 2500 B.C. Shiva is the god who destroyed creation after every Kalpa, and at the same time he became the great ascetic who preserved the world with his meditation. He was related to aspects of fertility, and his symbol is the lingam, the male reproductive organ and the source of his power.

He is usually represented in one of three forms: As Nataraj in a dancing pose, as a lingam (phallus) or as an anthropomorphic form. This sculture shows him as Shiva-Dakshina-Murti or Mahayogi, one of the best known depictions of Shiva. He is seated on the tops of the Himalayas in deep meditation. His abode is the sacred mountain Kailash. He is wearing a simple loincloth, sometimes with the hide of an antelope around him, and seated on a tiger skin. He wears a moon sickle in his hair and a snake coil around his neck. In his hands he holds a trident and an ax. His attributes include a water jug. His face is turned to the south (Dakshina), the direction which brings good luck. He is the greatest of all the yogis.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...a%3DX%26um%3D1

[Dantheman62]

Oh and is he/she standing on a little baby?, and does he/she have four arms?

[Carmen]

Oh, and Shiva is blue, the blueprint of the lower levels, the healing level.

Love

Carmen

[777 The Great Work]

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

Oh and is he/she standing on a little baby?, and does he/she have four arms?

4 arms 11 11 duality in harmony trampling on ignorance, inside the wheel of fortune.

[avyaktam]

Originally Posted by Lorien

When the LHC rips a fabric in our universe, Shiva will come to life and destroy us all.

Here is another point of view on this, an observation from my teacher (from1965)

For me, it is very simple. Narada was a demi-god, he belonged
to the overmind world and he was able to materialise
himself, but these beings have no psychic. The gods do not have
within them the divine spark, which is the core of the psychic,
because only on earth—I am not even speaking of the material
universe—only on earth did this descent of divine Love take
place, which was the origin of the divine Presence in the core
of Matter. And naturally, since they have no psychic being, they
do not know the psychic being. Some of these beings have even
wanted to take a physical body so as to have the experience of
the psychic being—but not many of them.
As a rule, they did it only partially, through an “emanation”,
not a total descent. For example, Vivekananda is
said to have been an incarnation—a Vibhu¯ ti—of Shiva; but
Shiva himself has clearly expressed his will to come down
on earth only with the supramental world. When the earth
is ready for the supramental life, he will come. And almost
all these beings will manifest—they are waiting for that moment,
they do not want any of the present struggle and the
obscurity.
Certainly Narada was one of those who came here.... In fact,
it was for fun! He liked to play with circumstances. But he had
no knowledge of the psychic being and that must have prevented
him from recognising the psychic being where it existed.
But all these things cannot be explained; they are personal
ideas and experiences; this knowledge is not objective
enough to be taught.

[Orion11]

lol, almost Dan~
http://www.hindu-blog.com/2008/11/ab...symbolism.html

http://www.lotussculpture.com/nataraja1.htm

The Dwarf on which Shiva Dances: The dwarf on which Nataraja dances is the demon Apasmara, symbolizing Shiva's victory over ignorance, which can never be completely eliminated, but it can be overcome.


also..

The significance of the Nataraja (Nataraj) sculpture is said to be that Shiva is shown as the source of all movement within the cosmos, represented by the arch of flames. The purpose of the dance is to release men from illusion of the idea of the "self" and of the physical world. The cosmic dance was performed in Chidambaram in South India, called the center of the universe by some Hindus. The gestures of the dance represent Shiva's five activities, creation (symbolized by the drum), protection (by the "fear not" hand gesture), destruction (by the fire), embodiment (by the foot planted on the ground), and release (by the foot held aloft).

As Nataraja (Sanskrit: Lord of Dance) Shiva represents apocalypse and creation as he dances away the illusory world of Maya transforming it into power and enlightenment.


The symbolism of Siva Nataraja is religion, art and science merged as one. In God's endless dance of creation, preservation, destruction and paired graces is hidden a deep understanding of our universe. Aum Namah Sivaya. Bhashya Nataraja, the King of Dance, has four arms. The upper right hand holds the drum from which creation issues forth. The lower right hand is raised in blessing, betokening preservation. The upper left hand holds a flame, which is destruction, the dissolution of form. The right leg, representing obscuring grace, stands upon Apasmarapurusha, a soul temporarily earth-bound by its own sloth, confusion and forgetfulness. The uplifted left leg is revealing grace, which releases the mature soul from bondage. The lower left hand gestures toward that holy foot in assurance that Siva's grace is the refuge for everyone, the way to liberation. The circle of fire represents the cosmos and especially consciousness. The all-devouring form looming above is Mahakala, "Great Time." The cobra around Nataraja's waist is kundalini shakti, the soul-impelling cosmic power resident within all. Nataraja's dance is not just a symbol. It is taking place within each of us, at the atomic level, this very moment. The Agamas proclaim, "The birth of the world, its maintenance, its destruction, the soul's obscuration and liberation are the five acts of His dance." Aum Namah Sivaya.

[burgundia]

My first thought seeing the title of the thread was "this is good". And it was the first reaction, based on intuition not reason...

[iainl140285]

Originally Posted by 777 The Great Work

4 arms 11 11 duality in harmony trampling on ignorance, inside the wheel of fortune.

House of the dead 3 - The Magician uses the wheel of FATE. He says - "I shall destroy everything ... and resurect everything"

Not a day goes past where something on this forum doesnt tie in with something from my past

[777 The Great Work]

Originally Posted by iainl140285

House of the dead 3 - The Magician uses the wheel of FATE. He says - "I shall destroy everything ... and resurect everything"

Not a day goes past where something on this forum doesnt tie in with something from my past

Thats because its not the past.