Questions for THEWATCHER

[Zeddo]

Originally Posted by Egg

http://www.psywar.org/psywar/reprodu...eport_2008.pdf

If Barry King is PsyOps as he states he is, please read this document. It defines what PsyOps is, its aims, and the desired results. I will have no truck with people from the PsyOps world, as who can ever trust what they say? of course you cannot - for all we know, this whole thread could of been one great mind game from an admitted professional psyops operator from the very beggining, or even a group of them taking it in turns to drip, drip, drip the feed to a captive audience.

Question is then, what are they trying to persuade you about or deflect your attention or loyalties away from? after all, that is the job of a psyops unit.To change the way you think.

Just from reading the Definition on page 4 is enough to throw up some major alarm bells. I stand with Egg on this. What would psyops operatives be doing in this forum? We know how insecure the WWW is. We know there is "no place to hide". I also know that should any operative prove to be risky he will be taken out forthwith, so that means that the info is custom-built for a purpose other than that of benifitting this forum.

Stand amazed at society watcher, we can be full of surprises for a bunch of half-wits.

Just for the record, I have not taken the time to read this full thread, snippets here, pieces there is enough to get the gist.

[blastawaycas]

ZEDDO MATE MY HEADS SPINNING I READ IT FOR 4 HOURS IT BLOODY TOOK MY BREATH AWAY AND IN MY HUMBLE OPINION I THINK EGG WAS ON TO SOMETHING AND MAY WELL BE PROVEN RIGHT ...............WHICH IS A SHAME REALLY ............IN THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DUPED .................... WHAT A SHAME .............IF BARRY CAME FORTH WITH WHAT EGG ASKED FOR I ALONG WITH OTHERS WOULD EXTEND MY APOLOGIES TO HIM, FOR DOUBTING HIS AUTHENTICITY, BUT WE AS I STATED ARE IN A PRECARIOUS POSITION ..................... SOME MORE THAN OTHERS ........... THERE IS ONLY ONE DAVID CASTER IN MIDDLESBROUGH FOR INSTANCE, OTHERS BECAUSE THEY ARE RISKING THERE LIVES AND SECURITY TO BRING FORTH INFORMATION........I HAVE NOTHING TO BRING TO THE TABLE I KNOW NOWT !
HENCE THE DECISION TO LEAVE MY NAME ON THE FORUM IN RESPECT TO THOSE WHO DO BRING TALES TO THE TABLE........FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME TO WALLOW IN !!.......JUST A SHAME SOME OF THESE TALES ARE FABLES !!!!!


MY DEEPEST RESPECT TO ALL INCLUDING BARRY AND ALL THE WHISTLEBLOWERS ESPECIALLY EGG AND SOL INVICTUS .....WHERE EVER YOU MAY BE..........KINDEST REGARDS ALL MY BEST WISHES TOO

[Kari Lynn]

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[THEWATCHER]

I will leave you all, Avalon members and guests alike, with these final words. I am deeply disappointed in the way this thread has been turned. OK, I can see certain individuals are naturally wary, that is good, but I'm afraid the pestering in order to satisfy one or two individuals curiosity is becoming tedious. I also object to being vetted and OK'd by members of the public. Would anyone else care to please detail their past here in an open arena if asked? My continuing disclosing data here will be put on hold. I will simply not pander to the enquiries of one or two and compromise myself and others. IF egg you know of elements within the deep black areas you will also know there are projects and programs being run by equally deep black units, unacknowledged units. No paper trails, no comebacks, no accountability. These are areas NO ONE is privy to outside of the parameters of each program. And no one should even ask, IF its to be of benefit to disclose such data it will be thus disclosed, if not then it should remain out of sight. Acknowledged, known units can be found anywhere on the internet. Open to scrutiny, their work known by friend and foe alike. Operatives from such can without much risk detail their involvement if they so choose to. I have had to weigh the balance between fully opening up here and providing further data, risking compromising myself and others, or simply saying 'enough already'. This has taken a turn away from intended disclosures and assistance I offered here. I will not pamper to the nagging doubts of the few. If the majority of truth seekers here are happy enough with my past being kept, or rather, elements of my past, kept restricted, then thats fair enough. If all required vetting there would certainly be no whistleblowers, some would be insulted. I'm just peeved. Well enough rambling. I can assist others elsewhere. My time might be more appreciated elsewhere. Till another time perhaps..........

[Egg]

Very good - I accept that your unwilling to even PM a moderator here with details unlike former soldiers and Royal Marine Commandos - Heck, one even sent me a picture of them at the Fort Bragg Special warfare School when I enquired. Thats how deep some folks are in the black world here.

That shut me up and I issued them an apology. I would glady do that for you public on these very pages. All it requires is a few subsantiated facts. Solid, undeniable facts.

I will leave you with one thought now - In area 51 (Groom Lake) 60 years has passed by, and not one, not a single employee has blown the whistle with proven facts. Want to know why? the second you do, the Federal Authorities are all over you like a swamp rash. Just like they are in the UK, and in both these countries people can vanish or have a nasty car accident or suicide themselves from bridges.

Governments don't play games, but psyops units do.

[Kari Lynn]

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[Egg]

Originally Posted by Kari Lynn

you know, you keep talking about all these people who have been persecuted and killed, and you expect Mr. King to put himself and others of his team in the same predictament? Read what you just wrote above Egg and ask if you yourself would give such information if you knew the following Monday morning you'd have a group of military police at your door step to take you away? I'm quite sure Mr. King would likely do it, if it only pertained to himself, but it doesn't. There are 6 others in the group who's lives depend on his discretion. Not to mention his family. You're being silly to ask someone to give up such information.

Now there are those of us who have paid subscriptions who would enjoy listening to what Mr. King has to say, without your insistant prattling and droning on. Please don't infringe on our paid rights here Egg.

First off - you join just to post three times in this thread. Do you work from the same desk as Barry in his psyops unit? 3 posts, all here, all in defence of a self confessed psyops operator getting the light shone on him?

Secondly - Paid rights? I pay too - I just expect sensational claims to be backed up with even a small amount of proof. Colin is good for keeping the lid on things a moderator.

As for those people who I mention, they prove that if Mr King was telling the truth and not authorised to outside of his work as a self confessed psyops operative, he would be either jailed or dead and not a soul would know as it would fall under the 25/50/100 years secrecy rule.

Oh and lets re-visit the information I am asking for. Proof he was in the employment of Her Majesties Services in some form. Thats not a jail offence - because he could say it was before he did his secret stuff and public knowledge. His little red book would do nicely for that.

[blastawaycas]

KARI LYNNE I TOO HAVE PAID OUT OF MY £400 A MONTH DISABILITY I PAID FULL PRICE, IF I WANTED TO READ STORIES WH SMITH HAVE A GOOD FICTION SECTION STARTING AT £2.99 OR YOU CAN PICK UP GOOD FICTION FOR 10P ON A CAR BOOT SALE !!!

YOU NEED A GOOD MEMORY TO BE A GOOD LIAR

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT AND MY KINDEST REGARDS

[JSGlasgow]

bye watcher.



joe public type

The Watcher: My post was in response to the quote from yourself that Kari Lynn published in her post directly above, and also a general theme on this page of the thread about unanswered questions. I also clearly stated that I was speaking in general terms and that I hadn't formed an opinion on the content of this thread or the story it relates to.

What data you choose to release or not, and what answers you choose to provide or not, is entirely up to you. How the members of this forum choose to react to the information or lack thereof is entirely up to them.

I would also point out that I seriously doubt any of the forum members consider Bill and Kerry their "Chiefs." Project Avalon is an internet forum, not an organisation. They are not the bosses of anyone here, and personally I find your dismissal of the very people who have been taking an interest in this thread as "joe public types" and "Indians," the implication being they are unworthy of your information when compared to the "Chiefs," rather arrogant, condescending and insulting. Happily, as I previously stated, I haven't been taking an interest; a policy I will now resume without a moment's regret.

Best wishes to all.

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Steve_G

The Watcher: My post was in response to the quote from yourself that Kari Lynn published in her post directly above, and also a general theme on this page of the thread about unanswered questions. I also clearly stated that I was speaking in general terms and that I hadn't formed an opinion on the content of this thread or the story it relates to.

What data you choose to release or not, and what answers you choose to provide or not, is entirely up to you. How the members of this forum choose to react to the information or lack thereof is entirely up to them.

I would also point out that I seriously doubt any of the forum members consider Bill and Kerry their "Chiefs." Project Avalon is an internet forum, not an organisation. They are not the bosses of anyone here, and personally I find your dismissal of the very people who have been taking an interest in this thread as "joe public types" and "Indians," the implication being they are unworthy of your information when compared to the "Chiefs," rather arrogant, condescending and insulting. Happily, as I previously stated, I haven't been taking an interest; a policy I will now resume without a moment's regret.

Best wishes to all.

Yes I can be arrogant and condescending just as much as others here have proven to be. Other whistleblowers have been given the courtesey of not being hounded and put up for vetting by the public here, rather by way of vetting and checking credentials by those individuals whom started and do still head this enterprise called Camelot and Avalon. The ones whom do the actual interviews, travel to witnesses, etc. An open forum here yes but its those guys whom ultimately run the show in the background. Keep reality going. I see several others that have come into this arena and have assisted little if any, rather just to sit and say 'hiya' to any member that posts. I think I have contributed a great deal here, because I wish to part with data here and assist where i can. I sincerely hope those whom wish to dig try digging at others, Dan B would be a good example. Ask to see his documentation, its only fair surely? Anyways, as I said, I'm in a reasonable mood today. But sly comments will be met with equally sly replies.

No Steve, you missed the point when I said those in charge, the chiefs, rather than joe public, should be privy to certain specific data. Not a case of joe public being unworthy, simply none of their business and have no right to know. Common practise. SOP.

THE WATCHER

[blastawaycas]

I DONT KNOW HOW TO RESPOND TO YOUR LAST POST THEWATCHER
I WILL TRY AND KNOCK SOMETHING TOGETHER AND HOPEFULLY IT MAKE SENSE.
WHAT YOU JUST WROTE KINDA INSENSED ME A BIT
I KNOW IT WAS NOT LEVELED AT ME JUST WHAT YOU WROTE
HERE WE GO
I REGULARLY GO ONTO A SITE TPUC.ORG, THIS SITE DEALS WITH THE CONSPIRACY AGAINST EVERY CITIZEN IN THE UK NEE THE WORLD WITH REGARDS TO THE WAY WE HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF BY SUCCESIVE GOVERNMENTS SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE MAGNA CARTA AND THE CABALS AND POWERS THAT BE WHO INSPIRE THIS DECEPTION THE CURRENT ENGINEERED "CREDIT CRUNCH" IT RUNS PARRALLEL TO THIS SITE, NOW I HAVE LEARNED A LOT AND BEEN DISGUSTED AT WHAT I HAVE LEARNED ......... THERES NOTHING I CAN DO NOTHING BUT I CAN HANDLE WHAT I HAVE LEARNED I WON'T BURST INTO FLAMES ..........................
JUST MAKES ME SAD TO KNOW HAW THE PUBLIC ARE SO MANIPULATED SO MISTREAT NO BETTER THAN SHEEP AND LEAD THEM TO SLAUGHTER IN THERE MILLIONS ALL IN THE NAME OF MONEY ..................................
BUT THERE YOU GO IF I MET GORDON BROWN TOMMORROW I WOULD NOT WANT TO TAKE HIM OUT COS OF WHAT I KNOW, I WOULD BE POLITE COURTEOUS AND SHAKE HIS HAND,
BECAUSE BEING ANY OTHER WOULD NOT CHANGE A THING

SIMILARLY WHEN I LEARN OF UFO ALIEN CONTACT UNDERGROUND BASES MUTILATION ALIEN CONSPIRACY I CAN HANDLE THAT TOO I CAN HANDLE ALL YOU TELL ME I WILL LISTEN WITH INTENT AND AN OPEN MIND I HAVE NEVER SEEN A UFO NEVER SEEN A GHOST THAT DOES NOT MAKE ME A DISBELIEVER IT DOES NOT MEAN I CANNOT HANDLE WHAT THE TRUTH IS

IF YOU TELL ME YOU THINK WE ARE AN ALIEN FOOD SOURCE I WOULD BELIEVE YOU BECAUSE WITH ALL THE DISSAPPEARINGS THE POPULATION OF OVER 6 BILLION AND CONSPIRACY THEORIES FLYING ABOUT THATS AS GOOD A CONCLUSION AS ANY ...................... BUT IF YOU TELL ME THERE IS A KINDLY OLD GENTLEMAN SITTING ON A CLOUD OVERLOOKING US CALLED GOD WHO HAS A PROBLEM HANDLING MONEY SO THAT WE SHEEPLE GIVE HIM BILLIONS OF DOLLARS EACH YEAR I WILL NOT ACCEPT THAT,

I CAN HANDLE ANY TRUTH YOU TELL ME WTH OUT SPONTANIOUS COMBUSTION YOU SIR WITH ALL MY DUE RESPECT ARE BEING A LITTLE ABOVE YOUR STATION DECIDING (FOR WANT OF A BETTER WORD) WHAT I CAN BE TOLD.............................................. .......................................
IF EVERY PERSON IN THE UK WAS TO WAKE UP WITH A LEAFLET THRU THE DOOR OUTLINING THE TRUTH THEN I DONT THINK THERE WOULD BE TOO MANY FIRES THERE WILL BE A FEW SCRUMPLED UP ONES AND ALMOST EVERYBODY WOULD STILL GO TO WORK TO PAY FOR THE PRIVALAGE OF WORKING FOR A LIVING IN THERE ILLEGAL TAXATION BROUGHT ABOUT BY SUCCESSIVE CORRUPT GOVERNMENTS.

TELL US TELL EVERYTHING WHATS THE WORST THAT CAN HAPPEN THEY CANNOT KILL US ALL COS IF THEY DO THEY KILL THEMSELVES

SURELY YOU UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE ARE SICK OF BEING DUPED FALSE FLAG THIS FALSE DISINFORMATION THAT ..........................................

KINDEST REGARDS DAVE CASTER

[Kari Lynn]

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[Egg]

All 4 of your posts are in this thread. Now, I for one cannot believe a person would join just to defend Mr King from people who need answers to very pertinent questions.

He need not risk anything, just provide a slim glimmer of proof he was employed in her majesties services at some point in some form.

1997.

[blastawaycas]

Kari Lynne Barry King has his own website ......... surely you did not join just to read "THE WATCHER". For some reason i had never gone onto that thread ...don't know why but i started reading tonight spent over 4 hours reading ........... he was not giving anything away people were asking Q's and he was not telling them owt..........then i got to where egg was cross q'ing him and he turned into glass it was a brilliant bit of detective work on his part and a lot of people should be thankful and greatful for it

all those people who privately gave him info..........theyre all red tagged now
crikey when the s%^t hits the fan they're first to be bundled into cattle carts !!!

its a damned shame

my best wishes Kari Lynne

[Zeddo]

Z

[Egg]

All it would take is a PM of your 1997 signed act or your cadre certificate from what ever unit you qualified from or the inside page of your little red book.

Send it to a Moderator such as Colin or Helen or any one of them - and if they say you have that piece of paper with nothing blanked out bar the names of the witnesses and your team leader / Commanding Officer I will issue you not only a public total apology, but a personal one as well.

Until then, I will say this - My belief albeit unprovable, is that this thread was a sophisticated psyops for unknown reasons by agents unknown.

My final passing thoughts - First of all I feel sorry for all of those people who sent their names and addresses to Mr King and possibly his handlers within his unit - is that also part and parcel or is it genuine? there lies the greatest sadness of all.

Secondly, think of this list.

David Shayler, Secret Intelligence Service, whistle blower. Stopped dead and prosecuted for breach of the Official secrets Act. Jailed.

Richard Tomlinson, Secret Service, whistle blower, stopped dead, arrested and jailed for breach of the Official Secrets Act.

Mike Coburn, Special Air Service, wrote a book about Bravo 2 Zero in GW1 blowing the whistle on the command failures. harrassed, prosecuted and chased around the globe by the UK government.

Dr David Kelly. Breached secrecy rules according to the UK government. Dead.

These boys don't mess about when it comes to keeping the lid on events, and if you look at how many people work at Groom lake, and not a word has leaked out, you begin to see how far their reach is, and how powerful their might is.

If you are real, you are protected by God and all his Angels themselves.

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Egg

All it would take is a PM of your 1997 signed act or your cadre certificate from what ever unit you qualified from or the inside page of your little red book.

Send it to a Moderator such as Colin or Helen or any one of them - and if they say you have that piece of paper with nothing blanked out bar the names of the witnesses and your team leader / Commanding Officer I will issue you not only a public total apology, but a personal one as well.

Until then, I will say this - My belief albeit unprovable, is that this thread was a sophisticated psyops for unknown reasons by agents unknown.

My final passing thoughts - First of all I feel sorry for all of those people who sent their names and addresses to Mr King and possibly his handlers within his unit - is that also part and parcel or is it genuine? there lies the greatest sadness of all.

Secondly, think of this list.

David Shayler, Secret Intelligence Service, whistle blower. Stopped dead and prosecuted for breach of the Official secrets Act. Jailed.

Richard Tomlinson, Secret Service, whistle blower, stopped dead, arrested and jailed for breach of the Official Secrets Act.

Mike Coburn, Special Air Service, wrote a book about Bravo 2 Zero in GW1 blowing the whistle on the command failures. harrassed, prosecuted and chased around the globe by the UK government.

Dr David Kelly. Breached secrecy rules according to the UK government. Dead.

These boys don't mess about when it comes to keeping the lid on events, and if you look at how many people work at Groom lake, and not a word has leaked out, you begin to see how far their reach is, and how powerful their might is.

If you are real, you are protected by God and all his Angels themselves.

You forgot one crucial element. The ONLY reason the CPS have not brought me into court is this.............I would have a fully open arena to speak out, as defending myself, and lay wide open to the media and public, a deep black program that uses genetics on unwitting individuals, that uses mindcontrolling technologies on unwitting individuals, that experiments on unwitting individuals. Not by the few but over the years by the thousands!! Do you honestly think the NSA, USAF, DoD would actually ALLOW such an open prosecution, rendering their projects to an end?


THE WATCHER

[Egg]

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

You forgot one crucial element. The ONLY reason the CPS have not brought me into court is this.............I would have a fully open arena to speak out, as defending myself, and lay wide open to the media and public, a deep black program that uses genetics on unwitting individuals, that uses mindcontrolling technologies on unwitting individuals, that experiments on unwitting individuals. Not by the few but over the years by the thousands!! Do you honestly think the NSA, USAF, DoD would actually ALLOW such an open prosecution, rendering their projects to an end?


THE WATCHER

I am going to use a saying from blastwavechaos here on Avalon.

You just #dropped a bollock# my friend, because thats where you just fell flat on your face trying to use that as a defence.

In the United kingdom it is called I believe a 'D' notice. You would also know that you would be held on remand and in solitary before, during and until the end of your trial. When found guilty the 'D' notice would stand, the papers would not touch you with a barge pole, and your life laid in tatters around your feet.

Your trial would be held in secret because of the classified nature of the evidence, there would be no jury, there would be only one judge, and that judge is the holder of a secrecy classification so high he / she can hear any and all evidence you have, and the prosecution have. Your trial (if you lived that long) would be able to tear apart your claims, get all tax files, all national insurance files, all hospital files, all telephone files, and the prosecution would tear your life to shreds.

The papers would be barred for 25 years / 50 years / 100 years from reporting on this matter under the United Kingdom secrecy rules, and you would vanish into the system, not even a blip on the back pages of the most sensasionalist papers in the UK.


In short, I am saying that you would meet the black world head on and be destroyed if you even had the remotest chance of singing like a caged canary. In fact, that your current psyops shows this to be true - you continue under their direction and tolerance - Hence forth not a single word you utter can in my opinion be believed.

Read this next bit about UFOs.

A top BBC executive let slip recently that there is a D-Notice on media reporting of the so-called "Black Triangle."

The executive, who cannot be named, is the former producer of a very
popular BBC science program. He told one of our team that the black
triangle "craft," first witnessed by hundreds in the Hudson Valley
region of the United States [mid 1980s], then by thousands in Belgium
(1989-90) and more in Britain, has been "heavily D-Noticed" by the
government. For this reason the BBC will not be reporting on the
enigmatic craft, no matter how many witness reports they receive.

http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/.../m14-021.shtml


BBC don't cross a D notice, so your thoughts would not even get through their doors let alone into the news.

[Zeddo]

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

You forgot one crucial element. The ONLY reason the CPS have not brought me into court is this.............I would have a fully open arena to speak out, as defending myself, and lay wide open to the media and public, a deep black program that uses genetics on unwitting individuals, that uses mindcontrolling technologies on unwitting individuals, that experiments on unwitting individuals. Not by the few but over the years by the thousands!! Do you honestly think the NSA, USAF, DoD would actually ALLOW such an open prosecution, rendering their projects to an end?


THE WATCHER

I fear you answered your own postulation right here. You would not be brought before a court of any kind at any time in any manner or form, they would merely illiminate you if you were indeed a threat.

I do beg to be proven wrong however and would also shout my abject apologies loud and clear. Having said that, i do not regard people cross questioning you as being tiresome. It is easy to herd sheep, less so those who are beggining to awaken, get used to it and expect being intorregated as par for the course. This is the real world, we too are finding things tiresome, like being led by the noses and made light of.

Credibility is like respect, it does not come automatically, it has to be earned.


Z