Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ?

Carmen · 03-15-2009, 07:24 PM

Thank you futureyes. The truth shines through all of your posts. Connection to our own God-Self is the key to any help we require in this world, or any world. Its about Self responsibilty. Christianity takes away our power to access our own inner God-Self, and plonks all the responsibilty on Jesus. Jesus is the great Master who taught us to access our own God within. We are the Gods, we just don't realize it. We rescue ourselves. Of course the vibration of the Name of the Master Jesus will help, but ultimately we need to help ourselves.

Love and Light

Carmen

futureyes · 03-15-2009, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Carmen

Thank you futureyes. The truth shines through all of your posts. Connection to our own God-Self is the key to any help we require in this world, or any world. Its about Self responsibilty. Christianity takes away our power to access our own inner God-Self, and plonks all the responsibilty on Jesus. Jesus is the great Master who taught us to access our own God within. We are the Gods, we just don't realize it. We rescue ourselves. Of course the vibration of the Name of the Master Jesus will help, but ultimately we need to help ourselves.

Love and Light

Carmen

carmen ... i could not have said this more appropriately my self ... i would have somewhat ... but i'd ramble on and on ...

we are our own gods ... it's that simple ... we either realize it ... or not ...

when we do ... there is connection ... connection to our truth ... we have then remembered ... and there is no going back ...

rhythm · 03-15-2009, 10:37 PM

carmen and future eyes

i resonate with you

here , such a pleasure to

find my self in total agreement

so no need to repeat your wise
words .....

RedeZra · 08-11-2009, 09:00 AM

http://www.alienresistance.org/ce4testimony8.htm

Testimony of Kelly
A beautiful testimony showing the power
and authority of Jesus Christ

In some ways my testimony is different than the others I have read here, and in other ways they are very similar! But I hope that my testimony can be used to help someone else. I accepted Christ when I was 13 laying in a hospital bed. I was to have an operation to remove a tumor that took away my hearing in my right ear, and almost took my life. There was nothing on TV. except a movie about Jesus. At that time in life I had nothing but hatred for God, and Christians. But I was too tired to live and too tired to hate anymore. So I left the TV. on. When it showed Jesus dying on the cross, I began to weep, for the first time since I could remember. And I prayed, "God if your as good and as kind as I see here now. Then please, let me die." And I heard a Voice, "First give me your life." I felt no fear, but I looked around the room and out the door down the hospital corridor to see where the Voice was coming from. I saw no one and got back into bed. I whispered, "What?" And it said again, "First give me your life." And I knew it was Jesus. So I said, "Take it! I don't want it anymore!"

I still thought that I was going to die in the operation, but I didn't. Though there was a peace and a love I never felt before, I was still tired of life. But I knew that I would die soon anyways, because my grandfather told me that if I ever betrayed him, if I ever became a Christian he would kill me. I waited for the spirit guides to tell him what I had done. But three months later, while he was at one of his satanic conventions, he died. When I realized that I was not going to die anytime soon, I fell into a deep despair. When my grandfather died, so did my connections, it seemed, with his occultic group. And I don't know how to explain how awkward I felt in this world. I didn't feel comfortable with other Christians, or anyone really. I couldn't fit the world that I once knew with the "real" world. I told myself I had made it all up, and I believed for awhile that I did make it up. I told myself, forget it, it never happened. And so I made myself forget the world I had known for 13 years. But it haunted me in my nightmares. I had nightmares of being put on a table and being tortured. I had nightmares of demons telling me that I was crazy and that if I ever told anyone about them, I would be locked up and they would never let me wake up again. I would wake up with bruises, sometimes bleeding, and gasping for breath. I would wake up to people standing around my bed, speaking to me in another language, that I knew. Or my bed shaking violently even though there was no earthquake. And the thing that bothered me the most was my clock on the nightstand turning into a slithering snake, with the time in it's eyes. And so many more bizarre things that I thought I was losing my mind. I knew I gave my life to God, but I wondered what kind of a Christian I was.

I had heard stories of people who said they were abducted and tortured by aliens, whose experiences sounded so similar to mine. But then I read a book, mentioning my grandfather and the dowsers, and the witchcraft he practiced, and I starting thinking, maybe I'm not crazy. Then things started coming back to me, the evil things that I was taught, like dowsing, sacred geometry, alchemy, witchcraft, black magic, etc. I remember clearly being held down on a table and feeling like my body was being pulled apart. Then one day, from a dare I jumped off a high place into a pool and dislocated my jaw. When I popped it back into place I blacked out. And I remembered that same pain as a little girl when I was being held down on the table. My grandfather was there, and so were the others. One man held me down while he dislocated my hip. I screamed, he said "Don't cry. You do want to help us? You do want to help your people?" Then he dislocated my jaw. And after that jump, I realized that's probably why I felt like my body was being torn apart. That's how it would feel to a child having their joints dislocated. And I remembered I was told that I was a "star-seed", a descendent of the Nephilim. I even remember being told there were other children like me, who were being taken from their families and being taught in the "old ways". And that is was my grandfathers plan to take me "there" when I turned 14. He bragged about Hitler and Himmler, who were taught the ancient mysteries and of dowsing by his group, the Thule Gesselschaft as they were known at that time. And bragged about how many "star" children were being taken from their families now, as Hitler did with the "special" camps and Lebensborn program. And that their people were still doing these things today. So I started doing research and found some twisted truth in the lies I was told and I was mad. I begged God to show me what aliens really were. I was told that I was one of them, and part of me still wanted to believe it, to belong and feel special, even though being special also meant being tortured. And I asked if it was true, why didn't God warn us? Then I read Genesis and Daniel. I knew that demons and aliens were the same thing. And I knew I wasn't one of them. I read how Daniel was taken from his family, taught another language, and taught in the mysteries and sciences of the occult, but still kept his faith in God.

I read in Genesis that there really were beings called the Nephilim, and what they really are. And then one night I saw an alien, (and it seemed as if I knew him), at the side of my bed and I said, "I know what you are! Go away! Jesus is my Lord!" And it got angry and it was as if it was being suctioned out of my room right through the wall. I never saw it again. My faith in God and my desire to know Him grew. I even went to China to smuggle in bibles, for the adventure of it. But when I saw the man who was giving his life for his people to have the bible, I prayed, God show me what's the big deal about this little book. And the more I read, the more I realized the Power that was in the Word, and how much demons hated to hear them. I still had demonic nightmares for many years, and over time they ceased. I repeated verses from the bible, and sang praises to God. In one dream, a demon tortured me and said, "Fine, be one of them, just stop praying! And we'll leave you alone!" Of course I knew it was a lie, so I kept praying. And finally it all stopped. Once in awhile memories will come back to me, but they don't have the same power over me. Now instead of longing for the aliens to come and "take me home", I wait for Heaven, my real home.

When I found this site, I praised God that there were other people who knew about the true identity of aliens, and I wonder how many people who visit, can identify with me. I was shocked to see the page comparing those whose who've suffered satanic ritual abuse, and alien abductees. I thought I was the only one who made the connection! But I think God is revealing His truth in these last days to us all. I encourage everyone to know the Bible, like they know the back of their hand! My grandfather knew the bible better than most Christians I know, even taught Sunday school, and STILL told me "God is evil, Lucifer is good." But like when Satan tempted Jesus in the wilderness, using God's own words to lie and to tempt Him, so he does today with people willing to listen to him.

Here are some verses that God used to help deliver me from the lies, and I hope will encourage you:

2 Timothy 1:7 "But God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind."---I really believe the battle is for our minds. I once heard a quote from somewhere, "If you can control a man's mind, you can control the world". The devil wants us to think we're crazy, to make us afraid, but God has given us a sound mind!

Job 38:31-33 "Can you bind the beautiful Pleiades? Can you loose the cords of Orion? Can you bring forth the constellations in their seasons or lead out the Bear with its cubs? Do you know the laws of the heavens? Can you set up God's dominion over the earth?" For so long I was afraid. I was so afraid of the power that evil people, and the Nephilim, and the devil had. But everywhere in Scripture, it says Who has the power over the earth. In Daniel 7:25 it says that the fourth king will try to change the set times and laws, not the ones created by people, but the times and laws created by God. The devil knows his time is short. And ever since the time of Noah, he's been trying. And I can tell you from the things I've seen and experienced that he's making the way for the fourth king to be able to change those times that were prophesied and the natural laws that God has set up. But the key word is "try" because he won't succeed! God is still in control! All those weird and unexplainable things that have happened to SRA victims and abductees are a part of his attempt to change the times and laws what God has set up!

1 John 4:4 "Greater is He who is in us, than he that is in the world", I have seen people, and spirits, do some pretty amazing, powerful things, but God is much more powerful than the one who gives them the power to do these things.

And to all Christians, I encourage you with this, KNOW your bible! Hebrews 4:12-13 "For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. . Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of Him to whom we must give account!"

PS. I mentioned a group of people known as dowsers. I am not claiming that all who dowse are a part of the group my family was in. My grandfather said there were "dabblers" and "adepts", but only the "illumined ones" know the secrets. All you have to do is look in the American Society of Dowsers book store to see what they teach and believe, and see some authors Hitler kept in his own personal library that helped influence his belief in the "super race". Or take a look at what they offer at their yearly conventions. And I do claim this, that dowsing/divination is wrong, and goes against the word of God.

-Kelly

RedeZra · 08-11-2009, 09:22 AM

http://www.alienresistance.org/ce4testimony2.htm

"And I Used to Think They Were Friendly..."
Testimony of Lindsey
Hello, may God be with us always,

My name is Lindsey and I have had some experiences that may interest you greatly. I will try to be as brief as possible. This is the skinny:

It began five years ago with strange things happening in my house. I had presently been involved with Tarot on a high level and ALWAYS could predict events for people. I look back in sadness. Anyway, the point is I didn't believe in anything really. Flashlights would fall off the table, my dog would growl at nothing, I had bad dreams. Things were scary. Then one night it all came down on me. I "awoke" in bed without being able to move at all, not even an eyebrow. Some "thing" was in my room with me. It disguised itself to my sleeping mind (I still don't know how I could see it without my eyes open) as a little girl. I was so scared because I was paralyzed but when I realized a little girl was in my room I relaxed for some reason. Then it began to come toward me, which made me a little nervous....At the VERY LAST moment I heard the faintest plead in my mind "It just wants you to think it's a little girl" and RIGHT then the thing jumped at my chest, but not before I screamed in my mind, "Jesus help me, God help me!" And the "thing" was thrown back in utterly agonizing pain and the sound it made was as close to hell as any human ears could ever hear....I am sure. So, I found some very devoted Christians and I still didn't believe it was a demon but someone (thank you Jesus) led me to their arms. They explained to me and I was so terrified....but I began to believe, I asked Jesus into my life and heart and ONLY THEN did my terror subside, in fact, I felt better than I ever thought possible. My faith had arrived.

Now the part that must interest you.

I was devoted to God for only about three months. After that, I began to question, maybe I was just dreaming, how could I know? I forgot the bliss Jesus brought me upon entrance into my life. I forgot all important things. I began to see lights in the sky. I began to read books that supported the idea of aliens being messengers of god and such.....I began to believe them. After all, these books would literally show up in my life at the most bizarre times and it was all so synchronistic....When I would see lights in the sky, they seemed to be directly responding to my "spiritual" thoughts and this too was synchronistic. I began to believe that I was special and that I would be a messenger for God and that the whole paralyzation night was a pre-test, if you will, to test my mettle. Only today, this very day, did I realize how wrong I have been. I don't even know how it happened but I am so grateful it did. I was surfing the internet and I saw something about "Could aliens be demons?" And I scoffed and then I read it and it made all too much sense. I cried and have been talking to God, not lights in the sky, all night long. I love him even more, if that's possible because he still loves me, and now I know the meaning of forgiveness.

I am a testament to how deceptive and tricky they are. They will not stop until, as it was aptly put in one of the articles I read today, the sheep are separated from the goats. And being a sheep really is the only way to stop them. One example of just how tricky they get, I don't even understand how but, one night, I was walking and I saw the lights, as I almost always did, and something happened that made me run all the way home thinking fervently, over and over, "Remember this, they are not your friends, remember this..." But by the next morning I could not even remember why I had thought this. I believe they erased my memory somehow. I went on to believe they were, indeed my friends once again. I look back and shiver, I still can't remember what made me run home. I thank God I no longer believe they are benevolent. I thank Jesus that I can once again share in his love. I hope this story will help someone out there to not have to experience what I have. Thank you for your time.

In love and peace,

Lindsey

gscraig · 08-11-2009, 07:29 PM

Hello All,

This is very interesting to me because I've been on both sides of this dialogue, but I am not ready to completely acknowledge the Bible for what it is viewed to be...and here's why.

I grew up in a baptist church and I used to sing in it's choir up until I hit puberty stage and I wasn't attending church anymore. As I entered my 20's I wanted to get back into church, but had A LOT of issues with religion. In my opinion there were too many things that the so called "book of truth" could not answer, and whenever that was the case we are taught that "god works in mysterious ways" or "never question God". These are conditioned excuses for no one or no writings having an answer...In my opinion. I had friends and relatives whom believed in other religions and I showed interest or visited churches only to feel even more that something is wrong with the existence of all of these different Religions. The questions I had were the following;

1. Why is/was an All Loving God so punishing? From Adam and Eve, to the Israelites, flooding, Death and Revelations. Especially Revelations...Why must children suffer due to the ways of man and this world?

2. Why would an All Loving God have your soul burn for an eternity after you died for not doing his will?

3. Why are thousands of children killed, abused, molested, or die every year? where is their miracle or guardian angel? This includes molested children in the hands of priests while in his church?

4. Why do the Bible make very little references to the planets in our solar system or anything beyond the moon and "the heavens?" To add to that, we yet have artifacts of early cultures before religion specifically referenciing a God or particular location in space as their creators and some with drawings or carvings of our solar system. However, the Bible does not offer any of this???

5. CNN had an article recently discussing the oldest known bible was placed online. The article went on to point out how their are several "books" of writings that was never placed into the bible, and that words and whole sentences were either added, altered, or removed completely from the bible we know today. What this also means is that whomever or groups that organized the bible decided what people/Christian followers would worship or believe in. There's a HUGE problem with that.

6. This is in general, but if we were the only planet with beings living on it, why would God create billions of suns, millions of galaxies, millions of planets, and then leave this one small planet with life on it in jeopardy via the hands of a negative being (Satan)?

7. Why is it that Jesus displayed that of a peaceful "all loving God" more than God himself??

There's many more, but you get the point. The old testament contained references to Celestial Beings, but that description slowly began to fade away from newer bibles. Why is that?

Now, with all that said. I also experienced the dreams to where I could not move or scream out. It wasn't until I finally told my mother, and she instructed me to invoke the name of Jesus. This was surprising because I also learned obviously that she had experienced this as well. When it happened again, I did use Jesus name and it ceased. I don't remember surroundings or figures, only my bed spiraling downward???

After those experiences, I did for while gravitated towards the idea that the aliens were angels and demons. However, I'm not so sure it's that simple anymore.

mel · 08-11-2009, 08:54 PM

(xcuse the pun!)

This is very interesting to me, when I was 18yrs old I had a live in job as a cook in a management centre in Farnham Common , uk. I was there about 3 months before my experience.
Every night I use to get into bed and played my stereo which was on a table next to my bed, one night I reached over to turn in off (as usual) because I was feeling sleepy. Before my hand could connect with the power switch a great weight hit my body and I had the feeling of my whole self being pushed into the bed downwards, like I was being taken out, I felt sheer panic and horror and the first time in my life I automatically said the lords prayer out loud. The experience stopped and I sat bolt up right in bed, in shock. I wanted to turn on the light which was by the door on the other side of the room, but was too petrified to move. I cant remember for how long, but it seemed forever. I am now 42 and will never forget it.
When I did manage to move ,I rushed to the light switch and sat back on the bed, I kept asking God to help me constantly until out of exhaustion I fell asleep. When I awoke I saw an outline of a figure on the side of my wardrobe, hollows for eyes, knees to chest, had a feeling it was a male . I was in shock and felt very traumatised. I showed my manager & thankfully she also saw it and some how we got into a convo about her mum that had died and her mum would always visit her when she was relaxing in the bath, felt her mums arms around her.
Anyway other ***** happened, doors slamming,footsteps, etc when no one else was in the centre except myself and then boyfriend.
This experience led me to question everything, my reaction , why did I pray when it was not part of my life then. I have had different encounters since then, few sinister feeling (maybe empowering me to connect to my God self)
and some amazing most beautiful encounters. But I have learnt to access my inner power of pure love and the incredible intesity of emotion that it invokes which I feel words cannot portray. Now when I Meditate with my chakras I say God is with me. I feel it is what God means to you, so pure love, universal power, etc. I also say I am love, & I am protected by love if I am paticularly feeling vulnerable, All I know it brings me incredible mental peace and the most amazing physical electric buzz throughout my body.
Thanks for posting your views,I love and appreciate it.

xx

WE LOOSE OUR SELVES THE DAY WE BECOME SILENT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MATTER. MARTIN LUTHER KING.

RedeZra · 08-11-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by gscraig

...In my opinion there were too many things that the so called "book of truth" could not answer, and whenever that was the case we are taught that "god works in mysterious ways" or "never question God". These are conditioned excuses for no one or no writings having an answer...In my opinion. I had friends and relatives whom believed in other religions and I showed interest or visited churches only to feel even more that something is wrong with the existence of all of these different Religions. The questions I had were the following;...

God is a Mystery and Moves in Mysterious Ways

No Book can confine Him and no Man can comprehend Him

Imagine reading all there was to God in a Book in a week or so...

No these are serious questions left to the spiritual soul to ponder upon and hopefully to search and seek an answer to in all honesty
Like a treasure trail where the treasurer the trail and the treasure mysteriously moves together and merges into one another

You will find what you seek in all earnestness

Let there be no reason for God to hide and you to look

God's mysterious ways

People who love God intensely and, through that love, come to know Him (or Her) intimately, don't find his ways so mysterious after all. Such a person was Sri Ramakrishna, saint of Bengal, India.

Quote:

The baby in the family is learning to talk. Mother tries to teach him or her to call father "Papa" or "Daddy". But baby is only a year old and says only "Pa" or "Da" every time! Now does this make the father angry, that his little one cannot yet perfectly pronounce the name? Likewise, God understands our mistakes where he is concerned. And he patiently waits for the unfolding of our understanding.
...
You've all played hide and seek; are there children anywhere that haven't? In some countries the one who hides is called "Granny". This person blindfolds the eyes of the others and then hides. The players are to find her, one by one. Whoever can find and touch "Granny" has the blindfold removed and is "free". So it is with the Divine Mother! She has covered our eyes with ignorance and hidden herself here. Find her, touch her, and you are freed.

iainl140285 · 08-12-2009, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gscraig

1. Why is/was an All Loving God so punishing? From Adam and Eve, to the Israelites, flooding, Death and Revelations. Especially Revelations...Why must children suffer due to the ways of man and this world?

2. Why would an All Loving God have your soul burn for an eternity after you died for not doing his will?

3. Why are thousands of children killed, abused, molested, or die every year? where is their miracle or guardian angel? This includes molested children in the hands of priests while in his church?

4. Why do the Bible make very little references to the planets in our solar system or anything beyond the moon and "the heavens?" To add to that, we yet have artifacts of early cultures before religion specifically referenciing a God or particular location in space as their creators and some with drawings or carvings of our solar system. However, the Bible does not offer any of this???

5. CNN had an article recently discussing the oldest known bible was placed online. The article went on to point out how their are several "books" of writings that was never placed into the bible, and that words and whole sentences were either added, altered, or removed completely from the bible we know today. What this also means is that whomever or groups that organized the bible decided what people/Christian followers would worship or believe in. There's a HUGE problem with that.

6. This is in general, but if we were the only planet with beings living on it, why would God create billions of suns, millions of galaxies, millions of planets, and then leave this one small planet with life on it in jeopardy via the hands of a negative being (Satan)?

7. Why is it that Jesus displayed that of a peaceful "all loving God" more than God himself??

Why does IT/He/God/Creation allow bad things to happen to innocent people ... Think why we are here.

First off, I'll state I am not and have never followed any religion. However,

In my opinion, we are here to experience an existence in matter. To me, God is pure conciousness. This conciousness is every single thing, every where. In everything we can experience with our 5 senses and everything that we do not yet have conciousness of. That includes us. Ultimately we are all God/Conciousness. From the hair on your head to the nail on your toe to the molecules combined to make your keyboard

Whilst here experiencing matter, we are cut off from this conciousness (not really cut off - just the illusion we are) to TRULY experience.

You can always connect to this conciousness when you really need to - i.e. when you call the name of God when you are truly terrified, when you take religion 100% and you pray. At these moments you are again conected to the One.

So, back to your original Q - why do bad things happen.
IF at one time everything was 'perfect' as in the garden of Eden say this is not a total experience. This is a polarised experience. There must be balance in everything. Think of it as a circle. You can have 2 halfs but always connected. Always complete.

For to experience the total, remember this - for every action there is an equal but opposite reaction. Good and Bad are a state of mind. And I know the murder of children is right on the grotesque end of the spectrum but EVERYTHING will be experienced.

Why does this happen - because NOTHING is every truly destroyed or killed. It just goes back to conciousness or God as some like to call It. Seems harsh with our limited understandding of things right now but we will learn ... I would like to think so anyway

If religion was as pure as it was envisioned all that time ago ... everyone would be part of it.
But its not. It was bastardised and turned into a divider of the rich and the poor. It became a business. It became a tool of war. It is still a tool for war

Through the use of FEAR to control those who would think of stepping out of line. There is no Hell.

The original messages are still in there someplace - finding them is what we are lefft with today

Ashatav · 08-13-2009, 05:26 AM

Let the Evidence Talk by itself:

Joe Jordan Lecture in the 2009 Symposium in roswell exposing the Hard Evidence of that the "Aliens" (scaming demons if you know the history of the ex-spiritust Roger morneau) Are defenseless agains the Word of Yehoshua'ha Mechaich (Jesus).

Cheers, amazing lecture.

To see like dozens of the over 400 testimonies of stopped abductions in the name of Yehoshua'ha Mechaich go to the following web page:

http://www.alienresistance.org/ce4.htm

BONUS:

The "Hierarchy" by the Ex-illuminati occultist Whistleblower Carolyn Hamlett

Let's remember that she was an illuminati occultist and now's a born again christian who exposes the occult side of the New World (dis)Order's ideas like luciferianism and new age. Is curious that all the illuminati defectors I know are born again christians!

You see here, that the "Satanism" and the Dark Arts is the right hand of the "New Age" Whithe Brotherhood and White Magics both with lucifer as their head, but the lower initiates Don't Know that.

firefly · 08-13-2009, 08:30 AM

yes, and another name to call on to stop an abduction is JEHOVAH I know because Iv'e had the experience. They tried so hard to stop my memory from invoking His name, but I broke through and they were gone in a flash. But it left me with GAD (general anxiety disorder) and after 11 years I am finally getting over it.

Love and friendship
firefly

14 Chakras · 08-13-2009, 08:10 PM

If it happens again, consider calling to Archangel Michael or Jesus Christ and you can avoid the GAD!

It is worth considering that Jehovah was a tribal god in the old testament, and an angry one at that, and not the real deal. Remember, when Moses asked the infinite for it's name at the burning bush, it replied "I AM that I AM", or "I will Be what I will Be", partially meaning it's not confined to names and constructs, it is in a constant state of Being and Becoming More. Now that's besides the point...

Personally, I think it most likely was your intention rather than the the name itself that scared them away. The infinite knew you were really calling to "God" not to a mean tribal God, so the power was there...

That's my opinion on that, for your consideration.

firefly · 08-14-2009, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 14 Chakras

If it happens again, consider calling to Archangel Michael or Jesus Christ and you can avoid the GAD!

It is worth considering that Jehovah was a tribal god in the old testament, and an angry one at that, and not the real deal. Remember, when Moses asked the infinite for it's name at the burning bush, it replied "I AM that I AM", or "I will Be what I will Be", partially meaning it's not confined to names and constructs, it is in a constant state of Being and Becoming More. Now that's besides the point...

Personally, I think it most likely was your intention rather than the the name itself that scared them away. The infinite knew you were really calling to "God" not to a mean tribal God, so the power was there...

That's my opinion on that, for your consideration.

Thanks 14 Chakras, exactly, however why were they blocking my memory from calling out that name when I could have just called out God!? Ive often asked myself that question. Its perhaps the same as calling on Jesus and not just "the son of God". All I know is it worked for me, however I now refer to our Creator as "Father most High" and I figure that will be calling on the intended helper without upsetting anyone.

I would like to share with you a revelation that my daughter received a few years ago. She was writing her thoughts down when someone spoke to her and told her to write. She asked who it was and they said 'YOU KNOW WHO I AM'. This is just a brief passage of what was written.

"You are the creation and must remember that the demons are everywhere gradually taking control of this Life this Creation. I will destroy it once time has come. Not destroy the world but destroy the disease that has become of this Creation, like I can destroy many of my other Creations. You have the ability to be saved by understanding what I AM and what I am not. What is inside of you can tell you if you truely understand what the Creation is and how the Creation is God. The power, the light, the love that is inside of you , the way you feel towards your children( she has children) is the way I feel about my Creation. I am dissapointed with the way it has turned out but I will not completely destroy it. I will take those that I know are pure in their hearts, their blood and are not fooled by the coming events or have contributed to them occuring............."

love and friendship
firefly

RedeZra · 08-14-2009, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by firefly

...I would like to share with you a revelation that my daughter received a few years ago. She was writing her thoughts down when someone spoke to her and told her to write. She asked who it was and they said 'YOU KNOW WHO I AM'. This is just a brief passage of what was written...

Hi firefly

It sounds like it is from God

If so would you be so kind to share all of what was written
and maybe leave out what is personal and intended for your family only

We are all - the good the bad and the ugly - children of our Father most High

And the reason He did not uproot and weed out yet
must be because He still awaits the return of more of His Prodigal Sons and Daughters

Noela · 08-14-2009, 05:53 AM

Liked your previous post, RedeZra - about the times we need help
outside ourselves - well said!

RedeZra · 08-14-2009, 09:03 AM

Hi Noela

Yes Our Lord is Infallible and Available to All

He responds to any voice and every heart

His Divine Presence is everywhere as in the wind and in the breath

Now New Age wants us to believe

That a monkey can become a man
And a man can become God

Not so

Only if God wills can a man become God

We can move into the proximity of God
But only Our Lord can release the shackles and remove the veil

firefly · 08-14-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RedeZra

Hi firefly

It sounds like it is from God

If so would you be so kind to share all of what was written
and maybe leave out what is personal and intended for your family only

We are all - the good the bad and the ugly - children of our Father most High

And the reason He did not uproot and weed out yet
must be because He still awaits the return of more of His Prodigal Sons and Daughters

I will gladly do so as I already have spent some time typing into the message board, but some little gremlin wouldn't let me post it. I'll try again tomorrow.

Love and friendship
firefly/

RedeZra · 08-14-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by firefly

I will gladly do so as I already have spent some time typing into the message board, but some little gremlin wouldn't let me post it.

Oh word of advice - better to type it in notepad first or take a copy of it before pushing the submit button

I think too long time typing it could be the little gremlin here : )

firefly · 08-16-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RedeZra

Oh word of advice - better to type it in notepad first or take a copy of it before pushing the submit button

I think too long time typing it could be the little gremlin here : )

Thanks for your tip, here is the rest of the revelation.

"You Have become a Disease on this planet killing, everything
in your path just as the demons have planned for you to do. You Kill
life therefore they will take you and eventually everything will be
consumed into nothing.

You are athe creation and you must remember that the demons are
everywhere gradually taking control of this creation.

I will destroy it one time has come. Not destroy the world but destroy
the disease that has become of this creation.......etc.

There are hundreds of genuine people who have done some very wrong things
in order to get this world into shape and where it is to-day. But many
people have taken much life or contributed in creating and allowing
the penetration of this disease into mankind so they cannot see or even
begin to understand as to what God and the Creation are and that they
are one and the same and how unique you are on this planet. This Garden
of Eden that allowed you My Creation to live enjoy and be creators of
yourself through the Earth your Mother who bore you, and I the Father who
is your Soul your Light your Energy that is you.

Man is unique because I made him like Me, Not in the physical sense but
in the sense that I gave them the power to think, to create, to achieve what
ever their minds desire. However, these demons have been trying to control
you, these demons that I once locked away are creeping back in, fooling
man into many beliefs to advance their technology and their plans. If I
don't stop them they will consume you through deceit and lies. These are
the sins, the demons all instructed by satan their leader to devour
My Creation in whatever means possible. However,I will not let that happen,
I will destroy him for good and all his offspring and followers. No one will
escape Me.

There are many out there that have done no wrong but remain ignorant to the
happenings on a spiritual level, they concentrate on their sports the media
and other outlets. These are ways of keeping them controlled. Most people
will not believe that this Creation in front of them is not the Creator
(God).

I will stop this, save as many that are worthy and are not blinded by the
beliefs the new world provides.

Jesus was the son I created to save your souls from the demons. It is
through Him you can gain redemption for your sins against my Creation,
through the life you have had to lead, the choices you make and lessons you
learn along the way.

I WILL LOOK AFTER THE CHILDREN THAT ARE STILL MINE AND BELIEVE IN ME."

14 Chakras · 08-17-2009, 06:20 AM

Firefly, thanks for sharing! Complex topics are brought up here...

I will share my take:

Consider, our mind is like radio receiver and it can tune into many different stations. Depending on where our own vibration is at, based on our beliefs and emotions, we will tune into different stations. There are many stations between here and the spiritual realm.

My discernment tells me to carefully consider scare tactics may come from impostors, fallen beings or false Gods that manage the people through fear. Fear is indeed a vibration that enables many dark forces to manipulate humanity and feed from them.

Consider the infinite does not want any of it's children to fear. In fact, consider you literally create karma when you fear because you are lowering the vibration of your God given energy, which is Pure when you receive it, and misplacing it as fear, which is an energy of low vibrations and which will feed the illusions behind it. We will reap as we sew, and consider whatever energy you send out is your own responsibility. So when we fear, we are actually creating a karmic debt by miss qualifying pure energy that we have received as pure energy and lowering it in vibration and releasing it through fear.

Behind all life is the divine energy of the infinite, which is love based, not fear based. There is no separation in reality, only illusions of separation. These illusions have taken on a life of their own, which explains some of the false God's that are fed by the energy of fear.

Consider, as Jesus said, humanity can earn life eternal and permanence in the mind of the infinite by multiplying their talents and knowing the truth that will set you free. In order to do this you must be reborn, as Jesus often repeated. Consider, to be reborn means to overcome the illusions of the carnal mind, or human ego, and be reborn into the reality that all life is One. Your eye must be single in order to inherit the kingdom.

All life is meant to be an expression of the infinite. Unfortunately, much of it has fallen under the illusion that separation is reality and this has caused an imbalance in much of life's expressions.

Consider, there are many false gods, fallen angels and beings, entities, beast etc. a significant number of which are perfectly capable of giving messages to us if we enter their vibration. We will tune into their 'radio station'. This is not a slight on us in any way. It is indeed a divine talent to be able to tune the radio receiver, the brain, to stations other than 3d. It's a matter though, of putting in the work to purify our own consciousness so we will tune into the highest frequencies. The more we are in the vibration of fear, ego, or any other illusions, the more we're going to be open to tuning into the wrong station and receiving false messages.

Consider the real 'God' does not require worship or human beliefs.Does the consciousness behind the entire virtually infinite universe require the worship from humans on a planet smaller than the size of a speck of dust when compared to the whole?

Consider false God's and fallen beings do receive energy from humans when they worship it, when they give their power to a false God outside of them rather than connecting to the father within, the infinite within. Consider messages that say those who don't worship me or believe what I say will be punished, are not from the source, rather from a being that receives energy from human's own attention being placed on them. And consider, even a true message from a higher vibration will be colored by whatever beliefs and illusions the messenger holds.

Consider, what the infinite does desire, is for us to demonstrate our love by loving and raising up all life, because life itself is an expression of the infinite. Consider the infinite also desires us to recognize that the Father is within us, rather than outside of us and to let the consciousness within be the doer.

To love the infinite behind the illusion often involves challenging the illusion to help wake up the divine consciousness behind it. Sometimes love is tough love as Jesus demonstrated when he confronted the scribes and the pharisees, the religious fundamentalist of his day. He challenged their teachings of the angry God in the sky and their rule based religion. Consider he did so to help free the people from the bondage of fearing the angry false god in the sky and instead connecting to the loving father consciousness within themselves.

Consider Jesus message is about shining our own God given light here in the matter realm so life can be raised up and remember it's inner divinity. The infinite multiplies our talents when we do so.

Consider, it's not about what church we go to, what religion we were born into, what beliefs we have. Consider it is first and foremost about the purity of our heart and intentions.

Consider it is the dark forces of this world that wish to make us feel powerless and give up our power to something outside of us. This is the illusion that must be overcome in order to follow in Jesus footsteps as he continually asked us to do.

Many are called, few choose. To choose, you must choose to enter the kingdom of heaven that is already here at hand, inside of you, and you will do so when you know the the truth that will set you free, 'I and my father are One'. Of course, this involves grace, but it is about putting forth our best efforts, walking the path and watching the infinite multiply our efforts.

Then the caterpillar will be reborn as the butterfly, you will do the works that Jesus did, only greater works than these you will do. The world will be raised up through the LOVE of the infinite, and as Paul said, we're here to be the body of God below and God is Love.

My take

RedeZra · 08-17-2009, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 14 Chakras

...My discernment tells me to carefully consider scare tactics may come from impostors, fallen beings or false Gods that manage the people through fear.

Is it not so that our world is in dire straits and have been so for a long time

If so would it be scare tactics to point to the reality of it

Either one believes or believes not in an Almighty Creator
Or one can sit on the fence and see where one eventually falls

If one believes in an Almighty Creator then it is contrary to common sense to try to impose limits on Him

Who can make right all that is wrong in the world today
Who knows the Adversary

Let us continue to be loving truthful and righteous

So when the time comes for wrong to be made right
See to it that we are not cut down

14 Chakras · 08-17-2009, 07:36 AM

"If one believes in an Almighty Creator then it is contrary to common sense to try to impose limits on Him "

Good point. Let's not limit what the infinite can do through us! Let the 'father' within do the work, and in reality, there are no limitations.

RedeZra · 08-17-2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 14 Chakras

Good point. Let's not limit what the infinite can do through us! Let the 'father' within do the work, and in reality, there are no limitations.

lol the infinite dont need to work through us

Rather we are within the Father and by our good intentions we can rise to the threshold of His stature til He let us in

firefly · 08-18-2009, 02:59 AM

Thank You 14 Chakras and RedeZra for your replies, however I must explain that at the time of my daughters revelation she had turned away from any concept of the Creator interfering in his creation here on Earth. And started questioning her spiritual beliefs and considering the possibility that Jesus did not even exist! Being an IT Programmer she was steering towards a more scientific purpose for our existence ( to my disappointment).

So it was to my great surprise when this incident happened. And yes, we must always practice discernment if possible. But how can we know if the information is coming from who we think it is. My daughter has developed doubts as to who it was that was speaking to her, even though she believes mankind has taken the wrong path in relation to our planet she had adopted an opposing view and spiritual belief to me.

So I feel the message she was given was more for my eyes and not necessarily for hers.

Love and friendship
firefly

RedeZra · 08-18-2009, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by firefly

...however I must explain that at the time of my daughters revelation she had turned away from any concept of the Creator interfering in his creation here on Earth. And started questioning her spiritual beliefs and considering the possibility that Jesus did not even exist!

Tnx for sharing firefly

A convenient time to interfere : )

Yes its a question of faith which will hopefully unfold into understanding
Not so easy to believe in such a superhuman being who transcends all science

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Originally Posted by firefly

...But how can we know if the information is coming from who we think it is.

Its hard to know for sure
But take heed of the message and make what you want of it
God will not fool you

03-15-2009, 07:24 PM	#1
Carmen Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 992	Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ? Thank you futureyes. The truth shines through all of your posts. Connection to our own God-Self is the key to any help we require in this world, or any world. Its about Self responsibilty. Christianity takes away our power to access our own inner God-Self, and plonks all the responsibilty on Jesus. Jesus is the great Master who taught us to access our own God within. We are the Gods, we just don't realize it. We rescue ourselves. Of course the vibration of the Name of the Master Jesus will help, but ultimately we need to help ourselves. Love and Light Carmen

03-15-2009, 10:37 PM	#3
rhythm Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: devon england Posts: 1,905	Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ? *carmen and future eyes* *i resonate with you* *here , such a pleasure to* *find my self in total agreement* *so no need to repeat your wise* *words .....*

08-11-2009, 09:00 AM	#4
RedeZra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 539	Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ? http://www.alienresistance.org/ce4testimony8.htm Testimony of Kelly A beautiful testimony showing the power and authority of Jesus Christ In some ways my testimony is different than the others I have read here, and in other ways they are very similar! But I hope that my testimony can be used to help someone else. I accepted Christ when I was 13 laying in a hospital bed. I was to have an operation to remove a tumor that took away my hearing in my right ear, and almost took my life. There was nothing on TV. except a movie about Jesus. At that time in life I had nothing but hatred for God, and Christians. But I was too tired to live and too tired to hate anymore. So I left the TV. on. When it showed Jesus dying on the cross, I began to weep, for the first time since I could remember. And I prayed, "God if your as good and as kind as I see here now. Then please, let me die." And I heard a Voice, "First give me your life." I felt no fear, but I looked around the room and out the door down the hospital corridor to see where the Voice was coming from. I saw no one and got back into bed. I whispered, "What?" And it said again, "First give me your life." And I knew it was Jesus. So I said, "Take it! I don't want it anymore!" I still thought that I was going to die in the operation, but I didn't. Though there was a peace and a love I never felt before, I was still tired of life. But I knew that I would die soon anyways, because my grandfather told me that if I ever betrayed him, if I ever became a Christian he would kill me. I waited for the spirit guides to tell him what I had done. But three months later, while he was at one of his satanic conventions, he died. When I realized that I was not going to die anytime soon, I fell into a deep despair. When my grandfather died, so did my connections, it seemed, with his occultic group. And I don't know how to explain how awkward I felt in this world. I didn't feel comfortable with other Christians, or anyone really. I couldn't fit the world that I once knew with the "real" world. I told myself I had made it all up, and I believed for awhile that I did make it up. I told myself, forget it, it never happened. And so I made myself forget the world I had known for 13 years. But it haunted me in my nightmares. I had nightmares of being put on a table and being tortured. I had nightmares of demons telling me that I was crazy and that if I ever told anyone about them, I would be locked up and they would never let me wake up again. I would wake up with bruises, sometimes bleeding, and gasping for breath. I would wake up to people standing around my bed, speaking to me in another language, that I knew. Or my bed shaking violently even though there was no earthquake. And the thing that bothered me the most was my clock on the nightstand turning into a slithering snake, with the time in it's eyes. And so many more bizarre things that I thought I was losing my mind. I knew I gave my life to God, but I wondered what kind of a Christian I was. I had heard stories of people who said they were abducted and tortured by aliens, whose experiences sounded so similar to mine. But then I read a book, mentioning my grandfather and the dowsers, and the witchcraft he practiced, and I starting thinking, maybe I'm not crazy. Then things started coming back to me, the evil things that I was taught, like dowsing, sacred geometry, alchemy, witchcraft, black magic, etc. I remember clearly being held down on a table and feeling like my body was being pulled apart. Then one day, from a dare I jumped off a high place into a pool and dislocated my jaw. When I popped it back into place I blacked out. And I remembered that same pain as a little girl when I was being held down on the table. My grandfather was there, and so were the others. One man held me down while he dislocated my hip. I screamed, he said "Don't cry. You do want to help us? You do want to help your people?" Then he dislocated my jaw. And after that jump, I realized that's probably why I felt like my body was being torn apart. That's how it would feel to a child having their joints dislocated. And I remembered I was told that I was a "star-seed", a descendent of the Nephilim. I even remember being told there were other children like me, who were being taken from their families and being taught in the "old ways". And that is was my grandfathers plan to take me "there" when I turned 14. He bragged about Hitler and Himmler, who were taught the ancient mysteries and of dowsing by his group, the Thule Gesselschaft as they were known at that time. And bragged about how many "star" children were being taken from their families now, as Hitler did with the "special" camps and Lebensborn program. And that their people were still doing these things today. So I started doing research and found some twisted truth in the lies I was told and I was mad. I begged God to show me what aliens really were. I was told that I was one of them, and part of me still wanted to believe it, to belong and feel special, even though being special also meant being tortured. And I asked if it was true, why didn't God warn us? Then I read Genesis and Daniel. I knew that demons and aliens were the same thing. And I knew I wasn't one of them. I read how Daniel was taken from his family, taught another language, and taught in the mysteries and sciences of the occult, but still kept his faith in God. I read in Genesis that there really were beings called the Nephilim, and what they really are. And then one night I saw an alien, (and it seemed as if I knew him), at the side of my bed and I said, "I know what you are! Go away! Jesus is my Lord!" And it got angry and it was as if it was being suctioned out of my room right through the wall. I never saw it again. My faith in God and my desire to know Him grew. I even went to China to smuggle in bibles, for the adventure of it. But when I saw the man who was giving his life for his people to have the bible, I prayed, God show me what's the big deal about this little book. And the more I read, the more I realized the Power that was in the Word, and how much demons hated to hear them. I still had demonic nightmares for many years, and over time they ceased. I repeated verses from the bible, and sang praises to God. In one dream, a demon tortured me and said, "Fine, be one of them, just stop praying! And we'll leave you alone!" Of course I knew it was a lie, so I kept praying. And finally it all stopped. Once in awhile memories will come back to me, but they don't have the same power over me. Now instead of longing for the aliens to come and "take me home", I wait for Heaven, my real home. When I found this site, I praised God that there were other people who knew about the true identity of aliens, and I wonder how many people who visit, can identify with me. I was shocked to see the page comparing those whose who've suffered satanic ritual abuse, and alien abductees. I thought I was the only one who made the connection! But I think God is revealing His truth in these last days to us all. I encourage everyone to know the Bible, like they know the back of their hand! My grandfather knew the bible better than most Christians I know, even taught Sunday school, and STILL told me "God is evil, Lucifer is good." But like when Satan tempted Jesus in the wilderness, using God's own words to lie and to tempt Him, so he does today with people willing to listen to him. Here are some verses that God used to help deliver me from the lies, and I hope will encourage you: 2 Timothy 1:7 "But God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind."---I really believe the battle is for our minds. I once heard a quote from somewhere, "If you can control a man's mind, you can control the world". The devil wants us to think we're crazy, to make us afraid, but God has given us a sound mind! Job 38:31-33 "Can you bind the beautiful Pleiades? Can you loose the cords of Orion? Can you bring forth the constellations in their seasons or lead out the Bear with its cubs? Do you know the laws of the heavens? Can you set up God's dominion over the earth?" For so long I was afraid. I was so afraid of the power that evil people, and the Nephilim, and the devil had. But everywhere in Scripture, it says Who has the power over the earth. In Daniel 7:25 it says that the fourth king will try to change the set times and laws, not the ones created by people, but the times and laws created by God. The devil knows his time is short. And ever since the time of Noah, he's been trying. And I can tell you from the things I've seen and experienced that he's making the way for the fourth king to be able to change those times that were prophesied and the natural laws that God has set up. But the key word is "try" because he won't succeed! God is still in control! All those weird and unexplainable things that have happened to SRA victims and abductees are a part of his attempt to change the times and laws what God has set up! 1 John 4:4 "Greater is He who is in us, than he that is in the world", I have seen people, and spirits, do some pretty amazing, powerful things, but God is much more powerful than the one who gives them the power to do these things. And to all Christians, I encourage you with this, KNOW your bible! Hebrews 4:12-13 "For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. . Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of Him to whom we must give account!" PS. I mentioned a group of people known as dowsers. I am not claiming that all who dowse are a part of the group my family was in. My grandfather said there were "dabblers" and "adepts", but only the "illumined ones" know the secrets. All you have to do is look in the American Society of Dowsers book store to see what they teach and believe, and see some authors Hitler kept in his own personal library that helped influence his belief in the "super race". Or take a look at what they offer at their yearly conventions. And I do claim this, that dowsing/divination is wrong, and goes against the word of God. -Kelly

08-11-2009, 09:22 AM	#5
RedeZra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 539	Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ? http://www.alienresistance.org/ce4testimony2.htm "And I Used to Think They Were Friendly..." Testimony of Lindsey Hello, may God be with us always, My name is Lindsey and I have had some experiences that may interest you greatly. I will try to be as brief as possible. This is the skinny: It began five years ago with strange things happening in my house. I had presently been involved with Tarot on a high level and ALWAYS could predict events for people. I look back in sadness. Anyway, the point is I didn't believe in anything really. Flashlights would fall off the table, my dog would growl at nothing, I had bad dreams. Things were scary. Then one night it all came down on me. I "awoke" in bed without being able to move at all, not even an eyebrow. Some "thing" was in my room with me. It disguised itself to my sleeping mind (I still don't know how I could see it without my eyes open) as a little girl. I was so scared because I was paralyzed but when I realized a little girl was in my room I relaxed for some reason. Then it began to come toward me, which made me a little nervous....At the VERY LAST moment I heard the faintest plead in my mind "It just wants you to think it's a little girl" and RIGHT then the thing jumped at my chest, but not before I screamed in my mind, "Jesus help me, God help me!" And the "thing" was thrown back in utterly agonizing pain and the sound it made was as close to hell as any human ears could ever hear....I am sure. So, I found some very devoted Christians and I still didn't believe it was a demon but someone (thank you Jesus) led me to their arms. They explained to me and I was so terrified....but I began to believe, I asked Jesus into my life and heart and ONLY THEN did my terror subside, in fact, I felt better than I ever thought possible. My faith had arrived. Now the part that must interest you. I was devoted to God for only about three months. After that, I began to question, maybe I was just dreaming, how could I know? I forgot the bliss Jesus brought me upon entrance into my life. I forgot all important things. I began to see lights in the sky. I began to read books that supported the idea of aliens being messengers of god and such.....I began to believe them. After all, these books would literally show up in my life at the most bizarre times and it was all so synchronistic....When I would see lights in the sky, they seemed to be directly responding to my "spiritual" thoughts and this too was synchronistic. I began to believe that I was special and that I would be a messenger for God and that the whole paralyzation night was a pre-test, if you will, to test my mettle. Only today, this very day, did I realize how wrong I have been. I don't even know how it happened but I am so grateful it did. I was surfing the internet and I saw something about "Could aliens be demons?" And I scoffed and then I read it and it made all too much sense. I cried and have been talking to God, not lights in the sky, all night long. I love him even more, if that's possible because he still loves me, and now I know the meaning of forgiveness. I am a testament to how deceptive and tricky they are. They will not stop until, as it was aptly put in one of the articles I read today, the sheep are separated from the goats. And being a sheep really is the only way to stop them. One example of just how tricky they get, I don't even understand how but, one night, I was walking and I saw the lights, as I almost always did, and something happened that made me run all the way home thinking fervently, over and over, "Remember this, they are not your friends, remember this..." But by the next morning I could not even remember why I had thought this. I believe they erased my memory somehow. I went on to believe they were, indeed my friends once again. I look back and shiver, I still can't remember what made me run home. I thank God I no longer believe they are benevolent. I thank Jesus that I can once again share in his love. I hope this story will help someone out there to not have to experience what I have. Thank you for your time. In love and peace, Lindsey

08-11-2009, 07:29 PM	#6
gscraig Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 335	Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ? Hello All, This is very interesting to me because I've been on both sides of this dialogue, but I am not ready to completely acknowledge the Bible for what it is viewed to be...and here's why. I grew up in a baptist church and I used to sing in it's choir up until I hit puberty stage and I wasn't attending church anymore. As I entered my 20's I wanted to get back into church, but had A LOT of issues with religion. In my opinion there were too many things that the so called "book of truth" could not answer, and whenever that was the case we are taught that "god works in mysterious ways" or "never question God". These are conditioned excuses for no one or no writings having an answer...In my opinion. I had friends and relatives whom believed in other religions and I showed interest or visited churches only to feel even more that something is wrong with the existence of all of these different Religions. The questions I had were the following; 1. Why is/was an All Loving God so punishing? From Adam and Eve, to the Israelites, flooding, Death and Revelations. Especially Revelations...Why must children suffer due to the ways of man and this world? 2. Why would an All Loving God have your soul burn for an eternity after you died for not doing his will? 3. Why are thousands of children killed, abused, molested, or die every year? where is their miracle or guardian angel? This includes molested children in the hands of priests while in his church? 4. Why do the Bible make very little references to the planets in our solar system or anything beyond the moon and "the heavens?" To add to that, we yet have artifacts of early cultures before religion specifically referenciing a God or particular location in space as their creators and some with drawings or carvings of our solar system. However, the Bible does not offer any of this??? 5. CNN had an article recently discussing the oldest known bible was placed online. The article went on to point out how their are several "books" of writings that was never placed into the bible, and that words and whole sentences were either added, altered, or removed completely from the bible we know today. What this also means is that whomever or groups that organized the bible decided what people/Christian followers would worship or believe in. There's a HUGE problem with that. 6. This is in general, but if we were the only planet with beings living on it, why would God create billions of suns, millions of galaxies, millions of planets, and then leave this one small planet with life on it in jeopardy via the hands of a negative being (Satan)? 7. Why is it that Jesus displayed that of a peaceful "all loving God" more than God himself?? There's many more, but you get the point. The old testament contained references to Celestial Beings, but that description slowly began to fade away from newer bibles. Why is that? Now, with all that said. I also experienced the dreams to where I could not move or scream out. It wasn't until I finally told my mother, and she instructed me to invoke the name of Jesus. This was surprising because I also learned obviously that she had experienced this as well. When it happened again, I did use Jesus name and it ceased. I don't remember surroundings or figures, only my bed spiraling downward??? After those experiences, I did for while gravitated towards the idea that the aliens were angels and demons. However, I'm not so sure it's that simple anymore.

08-11-2009, 08:54 PM	#7
mel Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: west sussex Posts: 41	Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ? (xcuse the pun!) This is very interesting to me, when I was 18yrs old I had a live in job as a cook in a management centre in Farnham Common , uk. I was there about 3 months before my experience. Every night I use to get into bed and played my stereo which was on a table next to my bed, one night I reached over to turn in off (as usual) because I was feeling sleepy. Before my hand could connect with the power switch a great weight hit my body and I had the feeling of my whole self being pushed into the bed downwards, like I was being taken out, I felt sheer panic and horror and the first time in my life I automatically said the lords prayer out loud. The experience stopped and I sat bolt up right in bed, in shock. I wanted to turn on the light which was by the door on the other side of the room, but was too petrified to move. I cant remember for how long, but it seemed forever. I am now 42 and will never forget it. When I did manage to move ,I rushed to the light switch and sat back on the bed, I kept asking God to help me constantly until out of exhaustion I fell asleep. When I awoke I saw an outline of a figure on the side of my wardrobe, hollows for eyes, knees to chest, had a feeling it was a male . I was in shock and felt very traumatised. I showed my manager & thankfully she also saw it and some how we got into a convo about her mum that had died and her mum would always visit her when she was relaxing in the bath, felt her mums arms around her. Anyway other ***** happened, doors slamming,footsteps, etc when no one else was in the centre except myself and then boyfriend. This experience led me to question everything, my reaction , why did I pray when it was not part of my life then. I have had different encounters since then, few sinister feeling (maybe empowering me to connect to my God self) and some amazing most beautiful encounters. But I have learnt to access my inner power of pure love and the incredible intesity of emotion that it invokes which I feel words cannot portray. Now when I Meditate with my chakras I say God is with me. I feel it is what God means to you, so pure love, universal power, etc. I also say I am love, & I am protected by love if I am paticularly feeling vulnerable, All I know it brings me incredible mental peace and the most amazing physical electric buzz throughout my body. Thanks for posting your views,I love and appreciate it. xx WE LOOSE OUR SELVES THE DAY WE BECOME SILENT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MATTER. MARTIN LUTHER KING.

08-13-2009, 05:26 AM	#10
Ashatav Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 603	Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ? Let the Evidence Talk by itself: Joe Jordan Lecture in the 2009 Symposium in roswell exposing the Hard Evidence of that the "Aliens" (scaming demons if you know the history of the ex-spiritust Roger morneau) Are defenseless agains the Word of Yehoshua'ha Mechaich (Jesus). Cheers, amazing lecture. To see like dozens of the over 400 testimonies of stopped abductions in the name of Yehoshua'ha Mechaich go to the following web page: http://www.alienresistance.org/ce4.htm BONUS: The "Hierarchy" by the Ex-illuminati occultist Whistleblower Carolyn Hamlett Let's remember that she was an illuminati occultist and now's a born again christian who exposes the occult side of the New World (dis)Order's ideas like luciferianism and new age. Is curious that all the illuminati defectors I know are born again christians! You see here, that the "Satanism" and the Dark Arts is the right hand of the "New Age" Whithe Brotherhood and White Magics both with lucifer as their head, but the lower initiates Don't Know that. Last edited by Ashatav; 08-13-2009 at 05:32 AM.

08-13-2009, 08:30 AM	#11
firefly Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Byron Bay Australia Posts: 79	Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ? yes, and another name to call on to stop an abduction is JEHOVAH I know because Iv'e had the experience. They tried so hard to stop my memory from invoking His name, but I broke through and they were gone in a flash. But it left me with GAD (general anxiety disorder) and after 11 years I am finally getting over it. Love and friendship firefly Last edited by Karen; 08-13-2009 at 10:02 AM. Reason: fix bold code

08-13-2009, 08:10 PM	#12
14 Chakras Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 832	Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ? If it happens again, consider calling to Archangel Michael or Jesus Christ and you can avoid the GAD! It is worth considering that Jehovah was a tribal god in the old testament, and an angry one at that, and not the real deal. Remember, when Moses asked the infinite for it's name at the burning bush, it replied "I AM that I AM", or "I will Be what I will Be", partially meaning it's not confined to names and constructs, it is in a constant state of Being and Becoming More. Now that's besides the point... Personally, I think it most likely was your intention rather than the the name itself that scared them away. The infinite knew you were really calling to "God" not to a mean tribal God, so the power was there... That's my opinion on that, for your consideration.

08-14-2009, 05:53 AM	#15
Noela Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 205	Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ? Liked your previous post, RedeZra - about the times we need help outside ourselves - well said!

08-14-2009, 09:03 AM	#16
RedeZra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 539	Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ? Hi Noela Yes Our Lord is Infallible and Available to All He responds to any voice and every heart His Divine Presence is everywhere as in the wind and in the breath Now New Age wants us to believe That a monkey can become a man And a man can become God Not so Only if God wills can a man become God We can move into the proximity of God But only Our Lord can release the shackles and remove the veil Last edited by RedeZra; 08-14-2009 at 09:23 AM.

08-17-2009, 06:20 AM	#20
14 Chakras Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 832	Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ? Firefly, thanks for sharing! Complex topics are brought up here... I will share my take: Consider, our mind is like radio receiver and it can tune into many different stations. Depending on where our own vibration is at, based on our beliefs and emotions, we will tune into different stations. There are many stations between here and the spiritual realm. My discernment tells me to carefully consider scare tactics may come from impostors, fallen beings or false Gods that manage the people through fear. Fear is indeed a vibration that enables many dark forces to manipulate humanity and feed from them. Consider the infinite does not want any of it's children to fear. In fact, consider you literally create karma when you fear because you are lowering the vibration of your God given energy, which is Pure when you receive it, and misplacing it as fear, which is an energy of low vibrations and which will feed the illusions behind it. We will reap as we sew, and consider whatever energy you send out is your own responsibility. So when we fear, we are actually creating a karmic debt by miss qualifying pure energy that we have received as pure energy and lowering it in vibration and releasing it through fear. Behind all life is the divine energy of the infinite, which is love based, not fear based. There is no separation in reality, only illusions of separation. These illusions have taken on a life of their own, which explains some of the false God's that are fed by the energy of fear. Consider, as Jesus said, humanity can earn life eternal and permanence in the mind of the infinite by multiplying their talents and knowing the truth that will set you free. In order to do this you must be reborn, as Jesus often repeated. Consider, to be reborn means to overcome the illusions of the carnal mind, or human ego, and be reborn into the reality that all life is One. Your eye must be single in order to inherit the kingdom. All life is meant to be an expression of the infinite. Unfortunately, much of it has fallen under the illusion that separation is reality and this has caused an imbalance in much of life's expressions. Consider, there are many false gods, fallen angels and beings, entities, beast etc. a significant number of which are perfectly capable of giving messages to us if we enter their vibration. We will tune into their 'radio station'. This is not a slight on us in any way. It is indeed a divine talent to be able to tune the radio receiver, the brain, to stations other than 3d. It's a matter though, of putting in the work to purify our own consciousness so we will tune into the highest frequencies. The more we are in the vibration of fear, ego, or any other illusions, the more we're going to be open to tuning into the wrong station and receiving false messages. Consider the real 'God' does not require worship or human beliefs.Does the consciousness behind the entire virtually infinite universe require the worship from humans on a planet smaller than the size of a speck of dust when compared to the whole? Consider false God's and fallen beings do receive energy from humans when they worship it, when they give their power to a false God outside of them rather than connecting to the father within, the infinite within. Consider messages that say those who don't worship me or believe what I say will be punished, are not from the source, rather from a being that receives energy from human's own attention being placed on them. And consider, even a true message from a higher vibration will be colored by whatever beliefs and illusions the messenger holds. Consider, what the infinite does desire, is for us to demonstrate our love by loving and raising up all life, because life itself is an expression of the infinite. Consider the infinite also desires us to recognize that the Father is within us, rather than outside of us and to let the consciousness within be the doer. To love the infinite behind the illusion often involves challenging the illusion to help wake up the divine consciousness behind it. Sometimes love is tough love as Jesus demonstrated when he confronted the scribes and the pharisees, the religious fundamentalist of his day. He challenged their teachings of the angry God in the sky and their rule based religion. Consider he did so to help free the people from the bondage of fearing the angry false god in the sky and instead connecting to the loving father consciousness within themselves. Consider Jesus message is about shining our own God given light here in the matter realm so life can be raised up and remember it's inner divinity. The infinite multiplies our talents when we do so. Consider, it's not about what church we go to, what religion we were born into, what beliefs we have. Consider it is first and foremost about the purity of our heart and intentions. Consider it is the dark forces of this world that wish to make us feel powerless and give up our power to something outside of us. This is the illusion that must be overcome in order to follow in Jesus footsteps as he continually asked us to do. Many are called, few choose. To choose, you must choose to enter the kingdom of heaven that is already here at hand, inside of you, and you will do so when you know the the truth that will set you free, 'I and my father are One'. Of course, this involves grace, but it is about putting forth our best efforts, walking the path and watching the infinite multiply our efforts. Then the caterpillar will be reborn as the butterfly, you will do the works that Jesus did, only greater works than these you will do. The world will be raised up through the LOVE of the infinite, and as Paul said, we're here to be the body of God below and God is Love. My take Last edited by 14 Chakras; 08-17-2009 at 07:06 AM.

08-17-2009, 07:36 AM	#22
14 Chakras Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 832	Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ? "If one believes in an Almighty Creator then it is contrary to common sense to try to impose limits on Him " Good point. Let's not limit what the infinite can do through us! Let the 'father' within do the work, and in reality, there are no limitations.

08-18-2009, 02:59 AM	#24
firefly Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Byron Bay Australia Posts: 79	Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ? Thank You 14 Chakras and RedeZra for your replies, however I must explain that at the time of my daughters revelation she had turned away from any concept of the Creator interfering in his creation here on Earth. And started questioning her spiritual beliefs and considering the possibility that Jesus did not even exist! Being an IT Programmer she was steering towards a more scientific purpose for our existence ( to my disappointment). So it was to my great surprise when this incident happened. And yes, we must always practice discernment if possible. But how can we know if the information is coming from who we think it is. My daughter has developed doubts as to who it was that was speaking to her, even though she believes mankind has taken the wrong path in relation to our planet she had adopted an opposing view and spiritual belief to me. So I feel the message she was given was more for my eyes and not necessarily for hers. Love and friendship firefly