Barter is New Medium of Exchange as Credit and Payment Systems Collapse.

Swanny · 02-03-2009, 10:57 AM

Good post.
Won't hurt to stock up with womens stuff.
Remember women will still want to look good even when they are starving to death

THE eXchanger · 02-03-2009, 04:28 PM

most definitely....it is all about how we eXchange
gr8 post !!!
i did a barter this morning

love/susan
the eXchanger

Dantheman62 · 02-03-2009, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swanny

Good post.
Won't hurt to stock up with womens stuff.
Remember women will still want to look good even when they are starving to death

Swanny, bwaHaHaHa!

piers2210 · 02-03-2009, 05:47 PM

Outstanding post. Barter has been operating in many countries in recent years. i have seen many deals in africa, asia, middle east, central america, south america in recent years which did not involve money transactions (but they did need lawyers, sorry). This will likely become the normal method of transaction before long.

gatestar · 02-03-2009, 11:48 PM

My favorite small town, Nelson BC, famous for hippie types, artists, artizans and all type of forward thinking, creative people. Many of the hippies from the 60's settled near there and developed back-to-the-earth ways to live.

Barter was established more than 20 years ago. Nelson and area (Slocan valley, etc.) has a system called 'barter bucks'. If you have a skill or trade you get your name and skill on a list which is on computer now. How it works is this...you have a leakey roof. You call for a roofer on the Barter list. He comes over right away and fixes your roof. No money is exchanged although you might invite him or her to stay for dinner.

Let's say your trade is drywall or sewing. So when someone needs drywall or sewing, you do the job, records are kept of the hours and wage rate and a tally is kept.

Here are some interesting links re community developement

http://www.spruceroots.org/December98/Money.html

Communities of Light all over north ameerica...
http://www.creativeideasforyou.com/c...and.html#Links to Communities from F.I.C.

developing local economy...
http://www.progress.org/archive/currency.htm

Carmen · 02-04-2009, 12:52 AM

Swanny, I'll swap you a sack of spuds for that lipstick in yer pocket!!!!!

Humble Janitor · 02-04-2009, 01:16 AM

I've already bartered homebrewed beer for a microwave and several end tables for my brother, since he didn't have any money.

That is why I will continue to make beer. For me, I see it as a valuable tool for bartering along with a few other things that I don't really use, as soon as I figure out what I can afford to let go of.

Carmen · 02-04-2009, 01:26 AM

Yeah HJ, and I'm going to carry on producing wine. That should be a bartable product. Wonder if Swanny likes wine!!!!!

Myra · 02-04-2009, 01:49 AM

Be careful you two people will be beating down your doors for that Beer and Wine when times get tough!

Carmen · 02-04-2009, 01:54 AM

Thats alright, theres plenty. Never did like drinking alone'! But seriously though, an inventory of what you can barter, and what can be bartered with other people in the community, is an important consideration for future times. Skills can be bartered also.

JesterTerrestrial · 02-04-2009, 01:55 AM

This thread is music to my soul mission!

thank you Antaletriangle your a one man avalon info machine!

check out my market thread for some great links about barter stuff...here is the one that would be most useful.

LETS BARTER SYSTEM PAGE.
A comprehensive manual detailing all aspects of LETSystem design and development, by Michael Linton and Angus Soutar.
http://www.gmlets.u-net.com/

MARKET MARKET MARKET!!!

Swanny · 02-04-2009, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carmen

Swanny, I'll swap you a sack of spuds for that lipstick in yer pocket!!!!!

I'll swap it for your puppies

Carmen · 02-04-2009, 06:54 PM

Have'nt got any pups at the moment Swanny. How about one of these
DSC00022.JPG

Cheers

Carmen

Hope this works. Im only just learning to post pictures

Carmen · 02-04-2009, 06:55 PM

Sorry didnt work

piers2210 · 02-04-2009, 07:23 PM

Hey Carmen, got any of that famous Pinot Noir????

I'll trade you my microwave hehehehe. Only joking. I've dumped it, i couldn't even give it to Oxfam on this occasion. But when i cleared out my flat over xmas i did give them everything i haven't used, read or played for the last year.

Carmen · 02-04-2009, 07:36 PM

:Yep, piers2210 plenty of pinot. Gave my granddaughter money for Christmas and then took them op shopping in the New Year. They had a great time, never been op shopping before. Im sorry to say I gave away my micro wave, should have put the axe through it!!!

One thing about storing stuff, heck it takes up a lot of room, and I've got a farm!!! There's stuff everywhere. I will have to go through and biff or give away stuff that is of no use in the future. I can see that. If you are in the vacinity, stop by and I'll give you a glass of Pinot.

:thum b_yello:
v

piers2210 · 02-04-2009, 07:48 PM

C, thats a deal.

Its a great discipline to "cleanse" your property of unused or unwanted stuff...you feel so much better afterwards, its amazing what negative energy stuff which has no purpose anymore can seep into your place.

When the spaces are clear and the surfaces clear you breathe an amazing sigh of relief, and feel so much better. I don't know why, but its true. I guess it cos you always need only good energy around you, not dead energy.

Atb, Piers

Czymra · 02-04-2009, 08:37 PM

Man, if I'm in New Zealand you can be dead sure that I'd invite myself.

Regaring bartering, I'm getting rid of all I can't carry at the moment so I can go trekking. Not sure what is left to barter there really as most things of value aren't really portable.

Also, I'm not sure if trusting online sites is any good for bartering. This concept strikes me to be a local concept.

Swanny · 02-04-2009, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piers2210

C, thats a deal.

Its a great discipline to "cleanse" your property of unused or unwanted stuff...you feel so much better afterwards, its amazing what negative energy stuff which has no purpose anymore can seep into your place.

When the spaces are clear and the surfaces clear you breathe an amazing sigh of relief, and feel so much better. I don't know why, but its true. I guess it cos you always need only good energy around you, not dead energy.

Atb, Piers

Yea that's true, I had a big clear out and tock loads of old stuff to the charity shop a couple of weeks ago, feel much better and like to walk around my spare room just because I can

Starlah · 02-05-2009, 05:20 AM

[QUOTE=gatestar;109189]My favorite small town, Nelson BC, famous for hippie types, artists, artizans and all type of forward thinking, creative people. Many of the hippies from the 60's settled near there and developed back-to-the-earth ways to live.

Thanks for your links Gatestar...bartering can be great fun and seems to me much more useful than currency. Just this morning I arranged a barter...fair trade jewellry for free fuel to do grocery shopping.
I'm familiar with Nelson, Kaslo, and Houston, etc. Spectacular little towns with beautiful scenery.
__________________________________________________
The End is the Beginning, and the Beginning is Now...(Its Been Said Before)

THE eXchanger · 02-05-2009, 05:40 AM

i started a process of sorting a lot of things to get rid of

one by one, i list them onto a website

and, one by one, they get turned over for cash

i did start to add, a list of things,

that i am willing to barter for,

and, ironically today -- i did a barter/or a swap with someone

and, i sold one item, for $25, that i paid $10 for

wish, i could do that, with everything i got

*********************************************
one friend of mine, Bill, who moved to costa rica to develop land
cashed out about 400,000 in rrsp's
and, left canada -- he'd retired from the railroad

anyway--he, sold everything in his house
in approx 3 weeks, running a garage sale ad,
that ran daily for 4 hours

he would take stuff out to the garage, sell it

and, the next night, take out more stuff

he said, it was amasing how quick all his things disappeared that way

and, also, he got a good price for everything too

he left, with just what fit into his van/truck

and, he said, he never looked back, just forward

we accumulate a lot of junk !!!

however, what is junk to one man, is often treasure to another

*************************************
then, shortly after he cleared out his own home
both his parents died, and he cleared out their house,
exactly the same way

**************************************
i coul d likely eliminate the mortgage
with my collections of stuff

love/susan
the eXchanger

piers2210 · 02-05-2009, 06:45 AM

Nice story, susan - whether its bartering or giving away, it feels good to offload dead energy, and let that dead energy re-energise in someone else's place. Sometime's people "borrow" something from me - i never "expect" it to be returned if it means something to them to keep it. After i read Robin Sharma's the monk who sold his ferrari i realised that we rarely really need many things in life. Just love.

Bye for now.

02-03-2009, 10:57 AM	#1
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: Barter is New Medium of Exchange as Credit and Payment Systems Collapse. Good post. Won't hurt to stock up with womens stuff. Remember women will still want to look good even when they are starving to death

02-03-2009, 04:28 PM	#2
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: Barter is New Medium of Exchange as Credit and Payment Systems Collapse. most definitely....it is all about how we eXchange gr8 post !!! i did a barter this morning love/susan the eXchanger

02-03-2009, 05:47 PM	#4
piers2210 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 403	Re: Barter is New Medium of Exchange as Credit and Payment Systems Collapse. Outstanding post. Barter has been operating in many countries in recent years. i have seen many deals in africa, asia, middle east, central america, south america in recent years which did not involve money transactions (but they did need lawyers, sorry). This will likely become the normal method of transaction before long.

02-03-2009, 11:48 PM	#5
gatestar Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Victoria, BC, Canada Posts: 64	Re: Barter is New Medium of Exchange as Credit and Payment Systems Collapse. My favorite small town, Nelson BC, famous for hippie types, artists, artizans and all type of forward thinking, creative people. Many of the hippies from the 60's settled near there and developed back-to-the-earth ways to live. Barter was established more than 20 years ago. Nelson and area (Slocan valley, etc.) has a system called 'barter bucks'. If you have a skill or trade you get your name and skill on a list which is on computer now. How it works is this...you have a leakey roof. You call for a roofer on the Barter list. He comes over right away and fixes your roof. No money is exchanged although you might invite him or her to stay for dinner. Let's say your trade is drywall or sewing. So when someone needs drywall or sewing, you do the job, records are kept of the hours and wage rate and a tally is kept. Here are some interesting links re community developement http://www.spruceroots.org/December98/Money.html Communities of Light all over north ameerica... http://www.creativeideasforyou.com/c...and.html#Links to Communities from F.I.C. developing local economy... http://www.progress.org/archive/currency.htm

02-04-2009, 12:52 AM	#6
Carmen Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 992	Re: Barter is New Medium of Exchange as Credit and Payment Systems Collapse. Swanny, I'll swap you a sack of spuds for that lipstick in yer pocket!!!!!

02-04-2009, 01:16 AM	#7
Humble Janitor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,201	Re: Barter is New Medium of Exchange as Credit and Payment Systems Collapse. I've already bartered homebrewed beer for a microwave and several end tables for my brother, since he didn't have any money. That is why I will continue to make beer. For me, I see it as a valuable tool for bartering along with a few other things that I don't really use, as soon as I figure out what I can afford to let go of.

02-04-2009, 01:26 AM	#8
Carmen Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 992	Re: Barter is New Medium of Exchange as Credit and Payment Systems Collapse. Yeah HJ, and I'm going to carry on producing wine. That should be a bartable product. Wonder if Swanny likes wine!!!!!

02-04-2009, 01:49 AM	#9
Myra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So Cal Coast USA Posts: 340	Re: Barter is New Medium of Exchange as Credit and Payment Systems Collapse. Be careful you two people will be beating down your doors for that Beer and Wine when times get tough!

02-04-2009, 01:54 AM	#10
Carmen Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 992	Re: Barter is New Medium of Exchange as Credit and Payment Systems Collapse. Thats alright, theres plenty. Never did like drinking alone'! But seriously though, an inventory of what you can barter, and what can be bartered with other people in the community, is an important consideration for future times. Skills can be bartered also.

02-04-2009, 01:55 AM	#11
JesterTerrestrial Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ontario, Earth, Milky Way, Love, Infinity x2 Posts: 5,267	Re: Barter is New Medium of Exchange as Credit and Payment Systems Collapse. This thread is music to my soul mission! thank you Antaletriangle your a one man avalon info machine! check out my market thread for some great links about barter stuff...here is the one that would be most useful. LETS BARTER SYSTEM PAGE. A comprehensive manual detailing all aspects of LETSystem design and development, by Michael Linton and Angus Soutar. http://www.gmlets.u-net.com/ MARKET MARKET MARKET!!!

02-04-2009, 06:54 PM	#13
Carmen Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 992	Re: Barter is New Medium of Exchange as Credit and Payment Systems Collapse. Have'nt got any pups at the moment Swanny. How about one of these DSC00022.JPG Cheers Carmen Hope this works. Im only just learning to post pictures

02-04-2009, 06:55 PM	#14
Carmen Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 992	Re: Barter is New Medium of Exchange as Credit and Payment Systems Collapse. Sorry didnt work

02-04-2009, 07:23 PM	#15
piers2210 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 403	Re: Barter is New Medium of Exchange as Credit and Payment Systems Collapse. Hey Carmen, got any of that famous Pinot Noir???? I'll trade you my microwave hehehehe. Only joking. I've dumped it, i couldn't even give it to Oxfam on this occasion. But when i cleared out my flat over xmas i did give them everything i haven't used, read or played for the last year.

02-04-2009, 07:36 PM	#16
Carmen Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 992	Re: Barter is New Medium of Exchange as Credit and Payment Systems Collapse. :Yep, piers2210 plenty of pinot. Gave my granddaughter money for Christmas and then took them op shopping in the New Year. They had a great time, never been op shopping before. Im sorry to say I gave away my micro wave, should have put the axe through it!!! One thing about storing stuff, heck it takes up a lot of room, and I've got a farm!!! There's stuff everywhere. I will have to go through and biff or give away stuff that is of no use in the future. I can see that. If you are in the vacinity, stop by and I'll give you a glass of Pinot.:thum b_yello: v

02-04-2009, 07:48 PM	#17
piers2210 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 403	Re: Barter is New Medium of Exchange as Credit and Payment Systems Collapse. C, thats a deal. Its a great discipline to "cleanse" your property of unused or unwanted stuff...you feel so much better afterwards, its amazing what negative energy stuff which has no purpose anymore can seep into your place. When the spaces are clear and the surfaces clear you breathe an amazing sigh of relief, and feel so much better. I don't know why, but its true. I guess it cos you always need only good energy around you, not dead energy. Atb, Piers

02-04-2009, 08:37 PM	#18
Czymra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 1,151	Re: Barter is New Medium of Exchange as Credit and Payment Systems Collapse. Man, if I'm in New Zealand you can be dead sure that I'd invite myself. Regaring bartering, I'm getting rid of all I can't carry at the moment so I can go trekking. Not sure what is left to barter there really as most things of value aren't really portable. Also, I'm not sure if trusting online sites is any good for bartering. This concept strikes me to be a local concept.

02-05-2009, 05:20 AM	#20
Starlah Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 372	Re: Barter is New Medium of Exchange as Credit and Payment Systems Collapse. [QUOTE=gatestar;109189]My favorite small town, Nelson BC, famous for hippie types, artists, artizans and all type of forward thinking, creative people. Many of the hippies from the 60's settled near there and developed back-to-the-earth ways to live. Thanks for your links Gatestar...bartering can be great fun and seems to me much more useful than currency. Just this morning I arranged a barter...fair trade jewellry for free fuel to do grocery shopping. I'm familiar with Nelson, Kaslo, and Houston, etc. Spectacular little towns with beautiful scenery. __________________________________________________ The End is the Beginning, and the Beginning is Now...(Its Been Said Before)

02-05-2009, 05:40 AM	#21
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: Barter is New Medium of Exchange as Credit and Payment Systems Collapse. i started a process of sorting a lot of things to get rid of one by one, i list them onto a website and, one by one, they get turned over for cash i did start to add, a list of things, that i am willing to barter for, and, ironically today -- i did a barter/or a swap with someone and, i sold one item, for $25, that i paid $10 for wish, i could do that, with everything i got ******************************************* one friend of mine, Bill, who moved to costa rica to develop land cashed out about 400,000 in rrsp's and, left canada -- he'd retired from the railroad anyway--he, sold everything in his house in approx 3 weeks, running a garage sale ad, that ran daily for 4 hours he would take stuff out to the garage, sell it and, the next night, take out more stuff he said, it was amasing how quick all his things disappeared that way and, also, he got a good price for everything too he left, with just what fit into his van/truck and, he said, he never looked back, just forward we accumulate a lot of junk !!! however, what is junk to one man, is often treasure to another ********************************* then, shortly after he cleared out his own home both his parents died, and he cleared out their house, exactly the same way ************************************ i coul d likely eliminate the mortgage with my collections of stuff love/susan the eXchanger

02-05-2009, 06:45 AM	#22
piers2210 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 403	Re: Barter is New Medium of Exchange as Credit and Payment Systems Collapse. Nice story, susan - whether its bartering or giving away, it feels good to offload dead energy, and let that dead energy re-energise in someone else's place. Sometime's people "borrow" something from me - i never "expect" it to be returned if it means something to them to keep it. After i read Robin Sharma's the monk who sold his ferrari i realised that we rarely really need many things in life. Just love. Bye for now.