2012 Nexus Event – Unknown Form of Energy comes our way!

Czymra · 01-13-2009, 12:24 PM

Ah, welcome TheChosen. Your replies are very refreshing as you voice concerns similar to mine (and your Baldur's Gate avatar raises fond memories.

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If I may quickly voice my personal experience along those lines of singularity and duality:
I'm obviously a head person. I enjoy thinking as abstractly as possible as it allows me to connect with the forces behind the subjects but it is also very hindering even when accompanied by intuition. I believe that this is due to the mind fooling itself into being able to understand and this directly relates to this idea of new age and conspiracy movements.

I've never felt too engaged with this 'love and light' stuff. I don't doubt it's there but the terminology has been way too abused over the course of time. This is the same with the constant discourse between good and bad, singular and dual.

What I keep on hearing from the 'love and light' people is that singularity is a ruse created by evil to justify it's existence. The effects are that lazy people are assured that 'everything is all right' and that 'the good don't fight the bad but accept it'. So we really need to see that evil exists and beat the hell out of it (or at least transmute it which is of course done by lumping lots of light and love on it).

What I keep on hearing from the 'singularity' people is of course that 'all is one' and the bad has it's function and so does the good. In fact, if the bad didn't exist the good would only hang around and do nothing so they need to be evil, so evil is a kind of catalyst for the evolution of this world. Hence, one shouldn't even try to distinguish anymore between good and evil, everything 'just is'.

Now, the mere existence of these two concepts are a duality in itself again so clearly none of this has anything to do with singularity. My feeling tells me that I can see the sum of the parts, but not more, and that misses the integral part.
I for one, can't even make up my mind whether good and evil even exist as such. Balance comes to mind, but balance in itself isn't singularity either.

What intricately ties in with this discussion, in my opinion, is the question whether things are to come easily and with fun, whether it is about the balance of discipline and fun (like you meditate every day but you do it only as long as you enjoy it) or whether the only thing that will really work is the real hardcore army style discipline of forcing yourself to do it no matter what.

I hope this hasn't just been a personal rant but also mirrors some of the concerns that others have but don't voice. I have the feeling sometimes that there is a lot more delusion going on than many of us want to admit. I myself can't understand how this duality still exists on the higher/other planes for I have not 'been there' but the mere variety of discussions and opinions on this board seems to be proof that all isn't quite one, yet (and don't you dare call Jesus something else).

So I am glad to see that this effort shall be an effort of singularity. Reading this reassures me that this effort is worth it's while and it feels right.
However, how exactly do you teach a mass of people like we hope to mobilise to suddenly switch from the old patterns into 'singularity'? How can you check that we're all outside the old system? And if this singularity really exists, how can it be that some individuals (parts of all) can 'have it' and other's don't?
This just doesn't sound like it can have anything to do with critical mass and entrainment, but maybe that's just my logical mind kicking in again.

It would be much appreciated if you could dispel more of these concepts. I for one can't agree with the notion that an enlightened person thinks in concepts and pictures. I do that, I haven't recognised my buddahood yet.
I have the feeling that the less concepts I have, the better. The more fluid the entities, be they thoughts, patterns or other dynamics, the more I feel 'at home' with everything. Words and concepts cut the world in pieces. They do not say 'this is presently close, yet all is there' they say 'that's here and that's not'.

Clearly, this effort can't be by words alone for all the reasons I just stated, so I really look forward to hearing that music, but as I said. If we can have more dispelling, more paradox, more nonsense, I'd appreciate it a lot.

01-13-2009, 12:24 PM	#11
Czymra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 1,151	Re: 2012 Nexus Event – Unknown Form of Energy comes our way! Ah, welcome TheChosen. Your replies are very refreshing as you voice concerns similar to mine (and your Baldur's Gate avatar raises fond memories. ). If I may quickly voice my personal experience along those lines of singularity and duality: I'm obviously a head person. I enjoy thinking as abstractly as possible as it allows me to connect with the forces behind the subjects but it is also very hindering even when accompanied by intuition. I believe that this is due to the mind fooling itself into being able to understand and this directly relates to this idea of new age and conspiracy movements. I've never felt too engaged with this 'love and light' stuff. I don't doubt it's there but the terminology has been way too abused over the course of time. This is the same with the constant discourse between good and bad, singular and dual. What I keep on hearing from the 'love and light' people is that singularity is a ruse created by evil to justify it's existence. The effects are that lazy people are assured that 'everything is all right' and that 'the good don't fight the bad but accept it'. So we really need to see that evil exists and beat the hell out of it (or at least transmute it which is of course done by lumping lots of light and love on it). What I keep on hearing from the 'singularity' people is of course that 'all is one' and the bad has it's function and so does the good. In fact, if the bad didn't exist the good would only hang around and do nothing so they need to be evil, so evil is a kind of catalyst for the evolution of this world. Hence, one shouldn't even try to distinguish anymore between good and evil, everything 'just is'. Now, the mere existence of these two concepts are a duality in itself again so clearly none of this has anything to do with singularity. My feeling tells me that I can see the sum of the parts, but not more, and that misses the integral part. I for one, can't even make up my mind whether good and evil even exist as such. Balance comes to mind, but balance in itself isn't singularity either. What intricately ties in with this discussion, in my opinion, is the question whether things are to come easily and with fun, whether it is about the balance of discipline and fun (like you meditate every day but you do it only as long as you enjoy it) or whether the only thing that will really work is the real hardcore army style discipline of forcing yourself to do it no matter what. I hope this hasn't just been a personal rant but also mirrors some of the concerns that others have but don't voice. I have the feeling sometimes that there is a lot more delusion going on than many of us want to admit. I myself can't understand how this duality still exists on the higher/other planes for I have not 'been there' but the mere variety of discussions and opinions on this board seems to be proof that all isn't quite one, yet (and don't you dare call Jesus something else). So I am glad to see that this effort shall be an effort of singularity. Reading this reassures me that this effort is worth it's while and it feels right. However, how exactly do you teach a mass of people like we hope to mobilise to suddenly switch from the old patterns into 'singularity'? How can you check that we're all outside the old system? And if this singularity really exists, how can it be that some individuals (parts of all) can 'have it' and other's don't? This just doesn't sound like it can have anything to do with critical mass and entrainment, but maybe that's just my logical mind kicking in again. It would be much appreciated if you could dispel more of these concepts. I for one can't agree with the notion that an enlightened person thinks in concepts and pictures. I do that, I haven't recognised my buddahood yet. I have the feeling that the less concepts I have, the better. The more fluid the entities, be they thoughts, patterns or other dynamics, the more I feel 'at home' with everything. Words and concepts cut the world in pieces. They do not say 'this is presently close, yet all is there' they say 'that's here and that's not'. Clearly, this effort can't be by words alone for all the reasons I just stated, so I really look forward to hearing that music, but as I said. If we can have more dispelling, more paradox, more nonsense, I'd appreciate it a lot.