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[Czymra]

Originally Posted by Swanny

Cant remember where I read or saw it (I think it mite have been something to do with MMS) but I'm sure they said no one dies from HIV but if you take the medicine they give you it will develop into AIDs.

Yes, that AZT (or AZN?). That's what I've read, too. Spooky, how can so many doctors be ignorant when dealing out poison?

[Dominic]

I do not buy the overpopulation scam for one moment.

This planet is capable of supporting 10 times the current population.

The greed and waste that was taught by our creators must stop.

The Free energy is available.

Do some math on the livable land on earth and you will find out.

It is a government scam!

[Steve_A]

Hi Dominic,

On what did you base your statement "This planet is capable of supporting 10times the current population"?

What is the calculus to base our maths on liveable land?

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by Dominic

I do not buy the overpopulation scam for one moment.

This planet is capable of supporting 10 times the current population.

The greed and waste that was taught by our creators must stop.

The Free energy is available.

Do some math on the livable land on earth and you will find out.

It is a government scam!

[Dominic]

Here is one where everyone in the world could live in Texas.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.c...a750bd39257d96

I also did another calculation that everyone in the world could live in Australia and have a quarter acre.

Here is more
http://www.redicecreations.com/speci...nviroscam.html

Up is down and down is up.

Once you learn their code you will never be fooled again.

[Steve_A]

Hi Dominic,

I understand that it's possible for the whole world to huddle in Texas, putting everyone on the space of an average house. Mathematically it works.

However, we are talking about human beings and not just numbers. People need to eat and drink. Think of the logistical nightmare of the State governor having to supply water to nearly 8 billion thirsty people! Also the biological waste products.... what a smell.

So let's look at this reasonably. We need to be spread around as we need to be able to explore natural resources. Your article mentions about two thirds of the planet being composed with water, but doesn't say, for example, how much fresh water is readily available. Towns and cities have grown in ribbon development along the coastline, along river margins, near to irrigational land, they spread out from centers of energy sources like hydro electric dams, and commercial centers etc. So we can't always class liveable land as just the State of Texas, as nice as the State is I'm sure.

You mentioned Australia as a reference, but really Australia is built around the coast and almost 8 tenths are dessert. Are you in your calculations assuming that the whole of Australia is liveable?

Imagine if the world had nearly 80 billion inhabitants all huddled together in Brazil. It could well be done mathematically, just as I could squeeze three mice into a matchbox if I put them through a blender (don't ask me how I know), but the practicality of the result of the mathematical equation would be nul.

I certainly do agree with you about energy and the possibility of alternative energy and its' use, but that's another topic.

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by Dominic

Here is one where everyone in the world could live in Texas.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.c...a750bd39257d96

I also did another calculation that everyone in the world could live in Australia and have a quarter acre.

Here is more
http://www.redicecreations.com/speci...nviroscam.html

Up is down and down is up.

Once you learn their code you will never be fooled again.

[Josefine]

Originally Posted by Czymra

Eh... wait a second, you can't 'treat' HIV, it's a Virus, AIDs is the illness that one supposedly gets from it.
Maybe you mean 'kill' HIV and thus prevent AIDs.
The magazine (Zeiten Schrift from Switzerland) claimed that there was a prize on showing the connection between the two and no scientist managed to win it because the connection isn't understood or not there.

I'm no specialist, just throwing in what I heard.
As I said, what can you believe anymore? I always had the feeling that AIDS is a big scam, but whether it it a bioweapon or a fearweapon, I can't be sure.
Comment very appreciated.

Just have another go at listening to Jessica. She states that the future is bright. This is not trite, it is the truth.

HIV/AIDS is both a bioweapon and a fearweapon. The ONE thing we should avoid is fear. The fear generated around our PRESENT population size is a case in point. THEY fear this size of the human population, as they know that it is necessary for sustaining the change at hand.

If one piles all the woes of the world on top of each other, is seems scary. Yet, who says it is scary that 0.5 % of the world's population controls 80% of its wealth? (The discrepany might be larger, given all the turmoil in the market lately). With that power they control war and 'peace', who eats and who goes hungry. THAT is what I term Highly Undesirable.

They would have loved to control more, but bounds and limits have been put on their their might. THEIR power is on the wane, thank goodness!

And please check out thread 'Bayer knowingly sold HIV-Contaminated vaccine'. What else is new?

[KathyT]

Originally Posted by Dominic

Here is one where everyone in the world could live in Texas.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.c...a750bd39257d96

I also did another calculation that everyone in the world could live in Australia and have a quarter acre.

Here is more
http://www.redicecreations.com/speci...nviroscam.html

Up is down and down is up.

Once you learn their code you will never be fooled again.

Dominic, it is not true that everyone could live in Texas. I've been to Texas twice on extended visits. A good part of it is nearly desert. The rainfall is very minimal. Sure it is "large", but it is not ideal for top agriculture. Most of the plant kingdom that grows in tropical zones could not grow in Texas, as the summer heat is too hot and humid. Most of the plant kingdom in northern territories like Oregon or Pennsylvania could not grow there. Even most of California's native trees and plants will not grow in Texas.

I would be interested in knowing how you thought you could put 5-6 billion people in houses and for them to grow their own food there if their climate only supports a narrow range of plant life. And where do you plan to get enough water for both drinking and for agriculture?

And where would you put all the sewage and waste? Out in the ocean and pollute the ocean?

[Josefine]

Originally Posted by KathyT

Dominic, it is not true that everyone could live in Texas. I've been to Texas twice on extended visits. A good part of it is nearly desert. The rainfall is very minimal. And where do you plan to get enough water for both drinking and for agriculture?

And where would you put all the sewage and waste? Out in the ocean and pollute the ocean?

I like to play along on this one:
Water and food are the No. 1 key to survival:

Some years ago I, as a member of an environmental group, had a discussion with a water expert on the rapid conversion of agricultural land into industrial and residential zones in many countries. He claimed there was not grounds for concern as 'everybody' knows that all the food for the world population today could be grown in hydrophonic condition in an area the size of Denmark and Holland put together!
He did not say anything about the quality of the food thus grown, but maybe they had figured out a solution to that one too.
He is now retired and living in Hawaii. Hawaii has a fast sinking groundwater level. It is not helped by the fact that there are many wealthy retirees there, and many of them live in first-class hotel/apartments that are big consumers of fresh water. So are the golf greens they love to spend their days on. So are the bottling plants for soft-drinks and bottled water. Do you know that for every glass of bottled water produced, 10 glasses have been used for the production?

So, we have solutions, but we are outpacing our best solutions with yet new wasteful spending patterns, also for water.

The trouble with water is that only a small percentage of all the water on the globe is fit for human consumption or agricultural irrigation. Given better and cheaper sources of energy, all our water may be turned into usable water for these pusposes.

As for the garbage problem, all garbage is seen as raw material in one way or other these days. All organic waste may be turned into a fertile growth medium through a process of compostation. Much of the rest may be used for energy production.

In agriculture it is a documented fact that small private plots give much higher yields, tenfold, than industrial production. Russia, e.g., could not provide enough food for its population had it not been for their 'Datscha'-culture, where citizens grow as much of their own food in small plots where they have their little holiday cottages. This is fresher and more ecological food than much of the store-bought.

Now, Malthusians are not the only ones who have an opinion on population patterns. In fact, they are often seen as a little old-fashioned as they equate human populations with animal populations. Humans are different, sometimes better, sometimes worse, than the animal kingdom.

[Dominic]

Here is one more fact on overpopulation agenda. It supports the New World Order plan of population Reduction!

If you haven't had the chance take a read NWO overview

http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/

And here is Henry Kissinger two days ago on the NWO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD3Bq...layer_embedded

[Steve_A]

Hi Dominic,

We know this already. It has been in the pipeworks since the 1970s. If you read the first few posts from this thread the groundwork has been explained.

The planet is becoming a little crowded, not because of space, as there is plenty of physical space, but because of the resources available in it. Which brings me back to the question I posed, "How do we reduce the population by peaceful means?".

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by Dominic

Here is one more fact on overpopulation agenda. It supports the New World Order plan of population Reduction!

If you haven't had the chance take a read NWO overview

http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/

And here is Henry Kissinger two days ago on the NWO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD3Bq...layer_embedded

[iainl140285]

Originally Posted by Steve_A

Hi Dominic,

We know this already. It has been in the pipeworks since the 1970s. If you read the first few posts from this thread the groundwork has been explained.

The planet is becoming a little crowded, not because of space, as there is plenty of physical space, but because of the resources available in it. Which brings me back to the question I posed, "How do we reduce the population by peaceful means?".

Best regards,

Steve

Hi Steve,

I'll take a crack at this.
Reduce by peacfull means, would mean not killing people already on the earth - which is what seems to be the plan for these crazies in charge.

Peacfully can go a number of ways. Lets start with the out there ...

Colonisation. IF, people agree that advanced military tech. is surpressed this may already be possible. Downside, this would cost an uncomprehendable amount, BUT if we're looking at the collapse of an entire planet maybe the cost is worth it. IF this is not yet possible, then its something that will take a huge amount of time and therefore maybe not feasable.

And the not so out there ...

I liked your earlier suggestion of incentives. If countries can (and have) paid people to have children they can pay people to not have children also.

Education. What if everone was taught how to look after the planet properly. The earth would be much more sustainable. Its our current lives that we live causing the problem here. (WARNING: THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT IS NOT A DIG AT EVER HUMAN ON EARTH!!!) As a species we are filthy - we pollute recklessly, lazy - our lives are run in the most conveniant way possible. People still drive cars to the shop when the shop is a 5 minute walk!
If as a species could change our thinking, release the free energy tech. that out there, raise our game in preserving the earth population reduction may not actually be required.

But we are humans. We will always take the easiest road.
And we all know the easiest road for the crazies in charge ...


Peace
Respect
Iain

[Dominic]

Our first step is to take care of each other.

I also believe when the control grid looses it's power the worry of population control will never be heard of again.

I do not see it as a problem but it is a asset.

Like I and others have said this earth is so abundant it can support many more loving souls.

I think it will take care of it's self with attrition.