The Time Has Come...

[SuperManny]

Originally Posted by Carol

This isn't any different than barn raising. One cannot do it by oneself.

Carol, I respect your opinion, but I can't agree with you on this one. I've been to several barn raisings (and even helped coordinate some) and this place is nowhere near that, if you'll pardon my french.

I am fascinated with Scott's story, and I hope he doesn't completely disappear. I also think there's much to it, maybe we're not being told the whole story. Can't we get him together with Bill and Kerry and do a video. How about it Scott? (if you're still here...)

leeboy,

A barn raising is where a lot of neighbors get together and build a barn (18th-19th century). It's in wikipedia. It just means a cooperative effort by a group of people - to build something good, needed, useful, or a project that's too big for one person alone etc.

Note: I'm still advocating for a free forum.

[leeboy]

Originally Posted by no caste

leeboy,

A barn raising is where a lot of neighbors get together and build a barn (18th-19th century). It's in wikipedia. It just means a cooperative effort by a group of people - to build something good, needed, useful, or a project that's too big for one person alone etc.

Note: I'm still advocating for a free forum.

Thanks for the info no caste

Gregor,

Such arrogance. Maybe that's why things 'won't take off right now'. And what a broad statement it is. Society is a big, lumbering machine (or system), which has its own momentum. Conversely, things also change in a flash at times...

I get tired of young people's ...lack of civility and sensitivity for energies over 30. It happens at work for me lately - it's sickening.

Note: I'm still advocating for a free forum.

[GregorArturo]

Originally Posted by no caste

Gregor,

Such arrogance. Maybe that's why things 'won't take off right now'. And what a broad statement it is. Society is a big, lumbering machine (or system), which has its own momentum. Conversely, things also change in a flash at times...

I get tired of young people's ...lack of civility and sensitivity for energies over 30. It happens at work for me lately - it's sickening.

Note: I'm still advocating for a free forum.

Woah woah, where the hell do you pull that statement from lack of civility? It's interesting to note that the majority of the people I associate with are OVER 30, and even 40 because the 'kids' my age have that lack of civility and are grossly immature. Please don't stereotype me like that. I respect my elders tenfold. If I had such a lack of civility for people over thirty do you think I would of moved back out of my house again to get away from my parents instead of confronting the problem head on (being it seems some people got a good laugh out of my parents post)? I respect my parents, and hope they don't go the route like so many do of divorce which is something on the table at the moment.

The only lack of civility I have is toward the ignorant, and I even recognize that and choose to work upon it.

Yes, I have gone out and made some blatant statements lately where people have been taken pretty back by them and just thinking "jeez, that kid has a lot to learn." However, it's mostly out of my patience that can only go so far, and I began to get a bit headstrong on my beliefs.

I am glad you're advocating a free forum but there is a serious principal at hand and people do not seem to be critically thinking about it. They aren't and I am seeing the rise of mob pyschology, cult thinking, which is the same thing I see in my god damn living room with my family and friends glued to CNN. We talk about waking up the masses when people on this forum alone need to wake the hell up.

::deep breath:: Sorry for my rant. It happens. Namaste.

[Flying Pyramid]

Originally Posted by SieS

Thanks for sharing the hope with us.

I have copied your core information on our Dutch free-energy Forum:
www.vrijeenergiemachine.nl

The path is continuing.
be well, we will meet again.

SieS

Thank you.
Feel free to post it anywhere you want but please give credit to me.
This is not so i can say "i created it or i own it" because is is just not true.
The doctor put me on to it and someone put him on to it and so on.
Plus other civilizations in the past have re-discovered this tech.
And most of the world would have eventually gotten there anyway.

The credit is so we can keep it free. You see, the world is devious and some company could take that knowledge patent it as say that know one else can make that exact setup. But they can not deny that i released it here and other places first. By now there are so many people that know i spoke up first that the PTB can not let anyone else "claim" it as thiers due to the fact that the world would know they are lieing and it would cause too much uproar at such a critical time.
Besides, they don't want to incure my wrath.
I am what i am.

You must understand that i am simply a tool to be used by the higher self.
They as much as we want this released now! They live here too and too many beings have invested too much into us and earth to let it be destroyed. It's happening because all of us decided it had to be now.

Remember, the key point here is KEEP THE KNOWLEDGE FREE!
Tell everyone who will listen how to make it.
Let every country, every man, woman and child know this simple fact.
Deny no one!

Originally Posted by symbolon

Maybe you could start another place like this one. I am sure this would generate a lot of interest.

I wish you well Flying Pyramid, wherever you may wander.

Peace

Thank you.
As much as it has been talked about and brought to me personally, i just don't agree fully. It is still a version of seperation which i will not adhere to. Perhaps if it is seriously needed, if there needs to be a place like that because others do not exsist, then yes, i will make the family site.
I still hold hope that this forum will go back to being free and B&K find the money they need through other means.

Originally Posted by slywinkl

ARRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!

this is how we haf come?! huh?

divide and conquer! just becouse of ego and wanting a ******* buck!

we look for freedom and prosperity only to be shut down by "own" ppl!

how far has you come, you do this, u do that, but dont do that.

here tis all started with a preacher of furure hope and togetherness. where is it?!?!? huh huh huh!!?!??

here the place were to come toghether and start something new! not the same old ways that are failing before your eyes!!

cash cash cash cash! we need this to survive and get on and do better in the world huh!?!? then teklll me how the hell we as HU-Mans haf suvived and build for eons!

and still u shunn away the best ppl just becouse your project is failing becouse u cant "afford" it anymore!!!

u need money, u need cash, u need the blood and sweat of ppl to continue for the ppl! huh?!

and your god damn right im soo ******, if i could take humanity by the neck and slap em silly to look at the reality i would!

here you are preaching to get the truth out. well here is the raw truth, you are following your goverment and money, remove em both and take a look wath a wonderful world this can be!

money makes you blind, money makes u hunger for power!

whats the difference between u and a crack addict?

whats the difference between you and an alcoholich huh?

none! you will always step on another human just to get it in your hands!

you all talk of your spirit. how does your spirit look at you now? dividing your own fellow spirits for a false reality!

if you cant handle this truth , then i suggest u speak to your own inner self and ask if this is right.

is it right to look down on another human for hafing on free thoughts and free way of living its own life? to haf its own way and principals.

!divide and conquer! this is why humanity will always fail the test of life

Whoa! I like your passion but anger in any way is a path to the darkside.
Even love shares a fine line with hatred.
Be mindfull of your emotions, let them teach you understanding and grace.
Anger. frustration, contemptment are all helpful when used to learn oneself. I feel these things too, but i step back and try to understand what about it makes me so angry, then turn it into understanding and just like that anger becomes love.

Peace mate.

Originally Posted by Carol

Well Scot you will just have to bit the bullet and stay as your subcription has already been paid for by me.

Carol, that is extremely compassionate espeacially because you don't know me. As much as it has touched me, i must respectfully decline.
To me, it still is seperation. If others like me are not able to come here, then i too should not be able.
I am strong in my conviction to be one with all, equal. And showing that i am seperate by being places others cannot i am not showing equality.
I am then helping the fields of hate by planting seeds of seperation in people. It may sound extreme but that is what it is.
Thank you for your offer it does warm my heart.

For what it's worth to anyone who's reading, it ties in with somethings the doctor told me that i will never agree with. He said this gift was for me and me alone and that i could not save everyone, espeacially the ones i love.
How can God hand me a way out and expect me to leave everyone else behind. Perhaps i am doomed to stay earthbound for disobeying, but i am human and not an angel, it is my choice and i would choose it a thousand times again and if they are to be damed then damn me as well.
I will never turn my back on my family, EVER!

Originally Posted by leeboy

That is most generous of you and very trusting. But i have a strong feeling all is not as it seems with richard scott brooks cant put my finger on it just a gut feeling and its very uncomfortable. just my opinion and i hope im wrong because his ideas are very thought provoking, but if something seems too good to be true.................
Sorry if i have offended anyone but this site is open to all sorts (genuine members of humanity and debunkers) and to be honest the only info we have on anyone is what and how they post and our own feelings.

Thank you. You are levelheaded to question me.
Question everything, anything anyone tells you.
For this keeps you sharp and aware, however be mindfull of your own disurnment. Always be aware but open at the same time.
Your right, i haven't told the whole story, there are holes in my truths, and i will never tell anyone the whole truth for it would destroy them.
Ignorance IS bliss. Only a vcery few of us walk this earth with the knowledge we posses. It is our burden to bare, we bare it so you don't have to. Those of us that carry this burden we call ourselves "Toy Soldiers". To know the truth of what is to come and know there is nothing we can do to stop it. We are observers of our own fate.
But i believe anyway, that this is what makes us who we are. That this task/test is what mkaes us understand ourselves and all of humanity and why our race, the human race is so important.
And then the burden isn't so bad.
Hold fast for great thing are coming.

Originally Posted by GregorArturo

I've talked to Scott (as he likes to be called) personally, and in my honest opinion he is WAY ahead of the game with the majority of those here on Avalon, spiritually, philosophically, and intellectually, including myself. I am positive he will not stay as his principals are his foundation to his existence essentially. As I said myself, my presence here will grow to be limited, until at least a more viable alternative presents itself (working on that one as we speak).

There's a big reason why ideas and technologies like this will not take off right now. People have a very hard time comprehending this. Free will is a big part in the prevailing moments to come with an infinite number of times, but there is a bit of a story line being carried out with a set script, and world wide free energy I feel is not apart of it for some years to come, even though it is out there.

People like Scott and I are very driven by our principals and intuition, and we do not deviate from them. There are several of the types here on Avalon but not many. I am by no means talking down to people, but many MANY people have a real hard time stepping outside the system and critically analyzing it, even when they know they're apart of the system and that it exists.

It's like we are all apart of the Matrix, and we know its existence, but for some reason, many of you aren't choosing to completely step outside of it into the real world, and unplug ourselves from the video game.

Again, you can relate this to the Chinese proverb (I love this quote to death!): To know, and not to do, is not to know.

This does not involve hours of meditation, yoga, or digesting information. It requires a thought, a very powerful thought, an intent to seriously step outside of the ego.

Good luck to you all.

I love you man.
Yes Gregor is right, it will not come out until after 2012 for the very reason that the world will not allow it. People, not the PTB, will simply not accept this new "free" technology. People are still so helplessly dependant on the system that they will fight and kill to protect it.
We will not start a war that will seperate humanity further.
My reason for releasing this now is so that most of the world,believeing it or not, will still posess the knowledge after the events to come.
There is no telling if i or others will be around after the great battle.
So i wanted this out now so that after the great understanding takes place people will then accept info outside the system that is now in place.
Spread the knowledge to all who will listen.

Originally Posted by leeboy

IF i was in a position to, "step up to the plate", believe me I WOULD. If i win the lottery tonight i will help as many people as i can. I am not slating you for doing what your doing, it IS positivley admirible, i just think we should all tread carefully. As things move forward this forum will be targeted more and more by certain groups and individuals whose only goal is to spread disinfo and panic (which could be very detramental for a certain number of members). Im NOT casting aspersions on flying pyramids character but it just feels like hes shown a very small portion of something VERY tantilising then pulls out. Almost like the con "gain psychic abilities NOW", type trading where you get lots of "testimony" from supposed customers but to find out for sure you must pay money. Given a taster then taken away from you?
Just feels a bit too convenient for me. I deeply regret that i may have offended some of you and that includes flying pyramid. So please accept my appologies.
P.S. i dont get the raising the barn comment, what does that mean?

I am not "pulling out" i am staying true to what i was created for.
Once the forum goes subscription i will simply be unable to post here.
The world is very large.
I would love to stay but i will not submit to seperation in anyway shape or form.
I will be posting in lots of places the diagrams specs and i will still make a video and release it on youtube, limewire, just about everywhere that copies can be passed around.

Originally Posted by SuperManny

Carol, I respect your opinion, but I can't agree with you on this one. I've been to several barn raisings (and even helped coordinate some) and this place is nowhere near that, if you'll pardon my french.

I am fascinated with Scott's story, and I hope he doesn't completely disappear. I also think there's much to it, maybe we're not being told the whole story. Can't we get him together with Bill and Kerry and do a video. How about it Scott? (if you're still here...)

Thank you SuperManny but i doubt that will happen.
They are about whistleblower testomonies and sientists and book writers and people that can prove what they say. I am just some crazy homeless guy who knows too much.
Look at it from thier point of view, they are already struggling with money and have interviews that they can't do because of the lack there of.
They would not spend money to come interview me, even if i went to them, i belive they still do not think i hold any relevance to what they are trying to do. I don't take it personally, i totally understand.
I myself think i'm crazy. Reguardless of what i know or how intersting it is how i found out all of this, i just don't see it happening.

Originally Posted by no caste

Gregor,

Such arrogance. Maybe that's why things 'won't take off right now'. And what a broad statement it is. Society is a big, lumbering machine (or system), which has its own momentum. Conversely, things also change in a flash at times...

I get tired of young people's ...lack of civility and sensitivity for energies over 30. It happens at work for me lately - it's sickening.

Note: I'm still advocating for a free forum.

I'm 33 and i get tired of older people faster than i get tired of young people. Older people should understand more, they should carry more wisdom but they don't. They carry nothing but contemptment for those younger than them. They see how they once were and decide to look down on them instead of understanding them and offering guidance.

It's all good. We ARE all in this together and i for one will light up the peacepipe and share sacrament with all who decide to sit at the family table and break bread.


Peace, Love & Light
R.S.B.
Flying Pyramid
Son Of Man

[GregorArturo]

Again to you Scott, namaste.

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by Flying Pyramid

Your right, i haven't told the whole story, there are holes in my truths, and i will never tell anyone the whole truth for it would destroy them

How exactly would it destroy them ?

Usually if you tell someone a higher truth that is too much for them they simply don't understand it.

A..

[Flying Pyramid]

Originally Posted by Anchor

How exactly would it destroy them ?

Usually if you tell someone a higher truth that is too much for them they simply don't understand it.

A..

It's simple matrix stucture, once you know there is no unknowing.
Once you see them, they see you and they will destroy you from the inside out. Trust me when i say you do not want this burden.
People are not fit to battle such corruption, we are weak from centuries on programming, your mind just simply would not let go.

[Squeptikal]

Originally Posted by Flying Pyramid

It's simple matrix stucture, once you know there is no unknowing.
Once you see them, they see you and they will destroy you from the inside out. Trust me when i say you do not want this burden.
People are not fit to battle such corruption, we are weak from centuries on programming, your mind just simply would not let go.

This subscription crisis has me perplexed. Some of the greatest posters here are adamant about leaving once the paypal reared its inevitable head.

This would be unacceptable were it not for the fact that in light of such a simple fact of economics being so misunderstood be the 'enlightened ones' that quite possibly all the goodness was merely a tease. Like the undesired previews on a purchased DVD.

I certainly hope that in your substantial wisdom you can either: a. explain how leaving helps the cause and/or b. see if someone takes the initiative and pays your way because of the merit of your disclosure.

However, from what I'm reading, the offer to spread these opportunities to those deserving members is in itself lacking as it exhibits a false Darwinian selectivity favoring the squeaky wheels thus disqualifying the gesture in favor of the demonstration.

Where is the free will in that?

[Flying Pyramid]

Originally Posted by Squeptikal

This subscription crisis has me perplexed. Some of the greatest posters here are adamant about leaving once the paypal reared its inevitable head.

This would be unacceptable were it not for the fact that in light of such a simple fact of economics being so misunderstood be the 'enlightened ones' that quite possibly all the goodness was merely a tease. Like the undesired previews on a purchased DVD.

I certainly hope that in your substantial wisdom you can either: a. explain how leaving helps the cause and/or b. see if someone takes the initiative and pays your way because of the merit of your disclosure.

However, from what I'm reading, the offer to spread these opportunities to those deserving members is in itself lacking as it exhibits a false Darwinian selectivity favoring the squeaky wheels thus disqualifying the gesture in favor of the demonstration.

Where is the free will in that?

Squeptikal,
I am assumeing that you read this whole thread and other posts i've made, seeing is how i only have 22, before you asked these questions. Well to aswer a & b for you:

a.) Again, as far as the cause i am onboard with the entire project, except the subscription method. I wish i could find a way to get them a cosistant source of money so the forum stays free to all reguardless of stature.
Why? Because it screams seperation. It is very simple, if i stay i am agreeing to seperation between my family and i will not do that under any circumstances. Remember this is one forum of many.
I will not stay if everyone is not allowed plain and simple.
How it's helping the cause, is it is sending a message to the powers that be and my brothers and sisters that you must stand strong reguardless of the circumstances. I will not adhere to the systems hold on humanity.

b.) I hope you are not stateing that i'm saying this to get a "free ride" from someone here, are you?
Carol has gratiously offered to pay my subscription of her own free will but i have declied for the above reason. I'm not pulling out, i just happened to join a couple of weeks before the forum went subscription thats all.
In case you haven't read my posts i live my life from town to town on the streets and off the grid. it's the principal of the matter. If i had a million dollors i would gladly give it to help Bill & Kerry to help their cause and to keep the forum free for knowledge but that is not the issue.

I have offered a few different things to them both but i have not recieved any reply in any way shape of form. But i don't take it personal, i dont start thinking that the view me as worthless or anything of the sort.
They are busy with their lives and mission.
It is this way of understanding that helps the cause. Do you see?
Understand others point of view, what trials they maybe faceing.

My sole purpose to to help the cause anyway possable.
But i will not go back on my word or my beliefs.

Peace, Love & Light

[SuperManny]

Originally Posted by Flying Pyramid

Again, as far as the cause i am onboard with the entire project, except the subscription method. I wish i could find a way to get them a cosistant source of money so the forum stays free to all reguardless of stature.
Why? Because it screams seperation. It is very simple, if i stay i am agreeing to seperation between my family and i will not do that under any circumstances.

I kinda feel the same way.
I have not voiced my opinion about the direction this forum is heading because it seems like a somewhat denser energy that I don't really want to contribute to. And there seems to be no shortage of opinions here.

I'll just touch on it briefly, because I agree with your view that it 'screams separation'. I'm not upset by it in any way, it just seems very divisive. I don't post much (I read a lot) so it won't really even affect me much.

[RANT] What seems so wrong to me is
a.) It seems to me as if they expect this project to fund their other project. This is not a good business model; it fails almost every time.
b.) I'm also a tiny bit bothered by the $60,000 figure that keeps popping up. Sorry, but I don't see it happening.
c.) People have even offered to pay 100% of the cost of this forum so it would be free for others, only to be flatly told that's nowhere near enough.[/RANT]

Originally Posted by Flying Pyramid

Remember this is one forum of many.

Indeed! there are several other good ones. May I suggest a couple; DivineCosmos.com and AstroVera.com I would hate to see information not being made publicly available because of.....

But if I don't see you around again, let me say a big THANK YOU for your contribution here. I admit I didn't quite get the the magnetic pyramid concept, but I was most intrigued by your posts.

Even tho I'm American, I was not born and raised in "the system" and in you I recognize a brother who is also not a part of the system. It really gives you a completely different view does it not?

May the Light of Divine Intelligence be with you always...
Namaste

[Squeptikal]

Originally Posted by Flying Pyramid

Squeptikal,
I am assumeing that you read this whole thread and other posts i've made, seeing is how i only have 22, before you asked these questions. Well to aswer a & b for you:

a.) Again, as far as the cause i am onboard with the entire project, except the subscription method. I wish i could find a way to get them a cosistant source of money so the forum stays free to all reguardless of stature.
Why? Because it screams seperation. It is very simple, if i stay i am agreeing to seperation between my family and i will not do that under any circumstances. Remember this is one forum of many.
I will not stay if everyone is not allowed plain and simple.
How it's helping the cause, is it is sending a message to the powers that be and my brothers and sisters that you must stand strong reguardless of the circumstances. I will not adhere to the systems hold on humanity.

b.) I hope you are not stateing that i'm saying this to get a "free ride" from someone here, are you?
Carol has gratiously offered to pay my subscription of her own free will but i have declied for the above reason. I'm not pulling out, i just happened to join a couple of weeks before the forum went subscription thats all.
In case you haven't read my posts i live my life from town to town on the streets and off the grid. it's the principal of the matter. If i had a million dollors i would gladly give it to help Bill & Kerry to help their cause and to keep the forum free for knowledge but that is not the issue.

I have offered a few different things to them both but i have not recieved any reply in any way shape of form. But i don't take it personal, i dont start thinking that the view me as worthless or anything of the sort.
They are busy with their lives and mission.
It is this way of understanding that helps the cause. Do you see?
Understand others point of view, what trials they maybe faceing.

My sole purpose to to help the cause anyway possable.
But i will not go back on my word or my beliefs.

Peace, Love & Light

Ok, crystal clear. The old saying about death & taxes I used to think was moronic, right after I used the moniker myself. Now I see it as being a tool and nothing else.

I live on the grid, and I'd love to get off of it, but I can't get off right now. I have monsterous bills to pay and a personal love of what I'm building here as a home for me and my dependents.

I live a dual life; one in which I explore the boundaries of existence, and one in which I have to pretend that I'm a good Conservative who is worthy of the trust I need to express in order to do my on-grid business.

I very much appreciate that Bill & Kerry get these folks on tape and in doing so, have become a trusted & valuable resource for many of us. It is maddening to see our sweet little group being torn apart in this way.

I Love You Too, BTW.

Gregor,

Hey, no worries about the rant. I asked for it. But at the same time, there's a kind of language I have a hard time with: ignorant him, ignorant her, stupid this & that.

My point is everyone has their own pace, and you don't know why. I'm not convinced you care. You're not asking anyway. Maybe I'm taking this up with you for a very stupid reason, like hashing out a personal work issue - where a certain rudeness amongst a few 'young' people is getting to me. Normally, I wouldn't say anything like that and have never considered it. But it's coming to mind lately. I hear them on the phone and I want to puke, the way they put down older ('stupid') people.

Maybe 'slow' people are irrelevant, just holding change back, working too... slowly, learning too... slowly. Me, I'm the kind to make sure the slow and the kids are on the boat. It's more important than me. Their pace is right. All paces are right. Furthermore, it's just wrong to 'shut up' any one untold story. So, usually I fall back with them and hang out - it's been great. Human. And where's the direction we're all going anyway?

The ball in play is deception, not the deceived. That's why the forum is great, as is. Share information. A paid forum thing, even at one dollar, is a principle thing for me too. I hate clubs. And the boat's not full. It could be a million dollars for the barrier it represents.

As for Scott here, peace, brother. I'm sticking it out with Nature. It's what I know, what gives me life, made my children, you, All, it's JOY - and I'm going down with this ship - if it does. I can't think of a better ship right now.

Yet, with no undoing, is there another thing to be done, like light up the matrix with compassion, lapis lazuli, quartz, singing, rosemary, salve, anything? Can it be affected. Should it be. Why can't your burden be lightened? Peace.

[slywinkl]

guess i haf to reply here then.

ok, to experience the deepest love you have to haf relese the greatest anger you haf.

to feel the greatest happyness you have to haf felt the deepest sadness.

i love all my emotions, good or bad as u say, but for there is no good or bad, they are all nessesary to experience this "life"

as i child i did not know what happyness was, i could not explain it until the day i had my cat ripped away from me while i see this person run over him with his car only to continue to drive while i lay in the grass weeping.

from that singular point i understood both sadness and happyness

i cherish my feelings, and each time i feel them come, be it anger, be it passion, be it love, be it anything, i focus it as hard as my mind can to get the purest of purest out of it.
to fully understand what it means to be a HU-Man.

you all haf your judgements, witch is fine, and the way it should be in a world like this.

but my freedom to do what i do is mine. so never tell me what i should or should not do please.

**--My uncle said to me when i was 10, we were working on the farm.*boy you only have to do one single thing in this life, and that is to die*--**

[Humble Janitor]

I feel that people are making too much of a big deal out of the subscription issue and at the same time, begging for attention by creating "goodbye" threads.

Yes, you're too cheap to contibute so off you must go. I really don't care and I see it as your loss for not willing to donate a few dollars just to post. I could get by on just reading this information but I'm often provoked enough to respond.

[Dean Plejaren]

Yes, you're too cheap to contibute so off you must go.

It isn't like that. That is very hurtful to some of us. Supporters are very much ready to contribute but it's a matter of what is best. Some think that subscription is not a good move as there is hardly no forums that charge for people to post. However the PC work remains free when it is the main product that people can decide with their dollar what is the correct interview. Any forum should be free to have an opinion and the rest we support by purchasing information that they gather for us. A forum is not expensive compared to the PC work.

[GregorArturo]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

I feel that people are making too much of a big deal out of the subscription issue and at the same time, begging for attention by creating "goodbye" threads.

Yes, you're too cheap to contibute so off you must go. I really don't care and I see it as your loss for not willing to donate a few dollars just to post. I could get by on just reading this information but I'm often provoked enough to respond.

Principal Janitor. It's about principal, and it's the most fundamental thing we have at the base of who we are. I'm sorry that you can not see through the veil. Be well.

[Connecting with Sauce]

Originally Posted by GregorArturo

Principal Janitor. It's about principal, and it's the most fundamental thing we have at the base of who we are. I'm sorry that you can not see through the veil. Be well.

I agree I said something very similar on the 'pay to post' thread see below***

I'm not leaving but if all the good posters leave there won't actually be a reason to stay.... and ultimately that will not help Camelot either as if money is tight it will not allow that to continue...

Below I mean 'most people' with the means to pay and within the system.

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I agree 110% and have donated to PCamelot today $25 for the 2-3 months I've used Camelot. I have found the information invaluable but I'm not convinced people will stick around TBH for a forum which to quote Camelot's own words in their updated post today states...

Project Avalon costs almost nothing to host....

but being aware that...

The problem we're addressing is how best to fund Project Camelot... and ...with the running costs of the entire Camelot enterprise, which continues to expand in scope and potential

I would happily pay for Camelot for up to the minute information... I'm sure most people would who could or wait for a month or so for FREE ARCHIVAL INTERVIEWS as per CMN. Donations could still be possible also...

My view is make the thing that costs the money pay for itself and use the forum to promote latest articles and interviews etc recently posted on PC to get people to WANT to see it early...

I'm sure you could get advertising from ethical companies selling water filters, water energisers, suppliments, supplies, bullion dealers, you name it all the stuff we discuss on here... Even Adverts of none disclosed nature... Pizzahut is below CMN right now for "20% off your first online pizza!"

Using the Mayan consciousness level Ian Lungold discussions... Think of what is ethical and it will work. Getting us to pay for something which 'costs almost nothing' in my mind is not ethical so unfortunately I can't see it working long term...

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ps this is at the bottom of CMN
The combination of subscriptions and donations allows us to keep this site free to those who cannot afford it and free from corporate censorship. We do not have any other means of support and have always given free access to our content since our launch in 2005. Please help us sustain this site with your subscription or donation.

They've been doing it since 2005 and are surviving...

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by GregorArturo

Principal Janitor. It's about principal, and it's the most fundamental thing we have at the base of who we are. I'm sorry that you can not see through the veil. Be well.

I can certainly understand this. i am simply disappointed that some people do not wish to continue here and I agree that there should be other avenues for collecting income to support the overall mission.

[GregorArturo]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

I can certainly understand this. i am simply disappointed that some people do not wish to continue here and I agree that there should be other avenues for collecting income to support the overall mission.

Well, if you can understand this, then also understand that the majority of people it is not about the low sum of money and helping out Project Camelot. We all want to help out Project Camelot. It's about not having our names all tallied perfectly in line with our credit card numbers (this one doesn't really apply to me, or most of us for that matter, as I bet they know exactly who I am and where I live already), and the most important notion being the information not being free for all those to share and participate. Even if someone cannot participate, then they cannot share new information, which doesn't matter if anyone can read the forums as that information won't be there, especially if the major contributors on the forum on gone and I think Flying Pyramid is by far one of the ones at the top (which is amazing to think since he has been around so shortly).

And take in account also with what norman said too as I absolutely agree and would do the same, hand them the only two dollars (liberty dollars to be precise haha) I had right now on the spot:

Originally Posted by norman

I'm not against paying a little for Camelot interviews. If Kerry or Bill were standing in front of me now I'd give them some cash but I'm not going to set up a PayPal account and I'm not going to send cash to America.

I just think you should rephrase your approach to how you present your argument then if you understand the notion of our principals.

[hueyii]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

Yes, you're too cheap to contibute so off you must go. I really don't care and I see it as your loss for not willing to donate a few dollars just to post.

Harsh words duing a time of massive layoffs and record unemployment.

[Myra]

Originally Posted by hueyii

Harsh words duing a time of massive layoffs and record unemployment.

I certainly agree.

[Northern Boy]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

I feel that people are making too much of a big deal out of the subscription issue and at the same time, begging for attention by creating "goodbye" threads.

Yes, you're too cheap to contibute so off you must go. I really don't care and I see it as your loss for not willing to donate a few dollars just to post. I could get by on just reading this information but I'm often provoked enough to respond.

You say it with such compassion and grace ... in case you didn`t realize it WE are all in this together and separation is or at least shouldn`t be an option because it weakens our position if we go with the paid subscription method this to separates us other alternatives have been put forth but no one has yet to discuss going any other route other than sub`s ... there is an old saying that people who live in glass houses should should not throw stones .

[GregorArturo]

Originally Posted by Northern Boy

You say it with such compassion and grace ... in case you didn`t realize it WE are all in this together and separation is or at least shouldn`t be an option because it weakens our position if we go with the paid subscription method this to separates us other alternatives have been put forth but no one has yet to discuss going any other route other than sub`s ... there is an old saying that people who live in glass houses should should not throw stones .

I want to add a point to your statement Northern Boy, and I know Flying Pyramid will support my statement, over my hijacking of this thread:

Originally Posted by Kerry Cassidy

Yes by instituting a subscription based forum to help pay for our work--we are imposing certain limits.. ($1 a month -- I mean get real..) but they are reasonable and the barrier to ENTRY IS EXTREMELY LOW. I want to KEEP IT THAT WAY.

I want to specifically point out here comment in parentheses. This is the barrier right here in which we are talking about, this great holy divide in ideologies, the Great Wall of Intangible Thought. This is where one has to define reality, where I am talking about "stepping outside the system." I am getting real, more real than you (some of you at least) can possibly imagine. Is reality this monetary system to support our truth seeking? Do we need to give support to another in the form of a greenback to help us all become enlightened and more awakened.

Or can you go down to your homeless shelter for a free meal and sit down with a seventy year old man who has been sober for most of his life but has chosen the path of the least materialistic and wishes to only share beauty with the world with his words and art? There you find truth.

If you want to know what the hell is going on with this world, this reality, with your very own mind, then god damnit go out into the world and engage it first hand. Smile at a stranger. Make amends with broken relationships. Bring beauty into the chaotic.

This ideology is so powerful that in its entirety it can not be portrayed with the human language or taught by the tongue of the most wise of men. You need to discover it for yourself.

Just yesterday I shouted out to this realm of free thinkers to not forget that this is all an illusion and I am cast down by "What are you talking about, of course this is completely real!" It is real, every single experience in the entirety of existence is real. However, the illusion stands before you every second in which you do not fully grasp the beauty of what is real.

There's this voice inside you that has been screaming all your life, and it's getting louder by the moment. It's full of passion, curiosity, love, and endless waves of truth. Stop suppressing it and just let its song feel every inch of your soul, and that beauty will be standing right before you as it has always for eternity.

So I ask you, what is real?