Worship Is Not Necessary

[New Age Messiah]

Love, Light & Spirit, Truth, Consciousness & Reality, are all given enormously to the soul that opens to them, not in worship, but in surrender and understanding.

The Goddess worships us!

This could be the unseen spiritual battle between "good and evil" divine entities.

The Goddess worships her creation, whilst the mean old tyrant God condemns it and orders it around.

Maybe it's just an ordinary spat between mom and dad???

[New Age Messiah]

It's also possible that all the religions positing a male god are written by males, and they just assume God is a male, and make a male character out of him.

That's my personal belief. Men perceive themselves powerful, especially over women, and so they believe God is like them.

But I know for a fact that the all powerful omniscient God is a Goddess.

And I know She worships us, as far as that word is understood to mean an unbridled outpouring of pure adoration and love.

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

But I know for a fact that the all powerful omniscient God is a Goddess.

And I know She worships us, as far as that word is understood to mean an unbridled outpouring of pure adoration and love.

yes like a mother who adores her children

the trinity is the mother father child

and it is One

[Stardustaquarion]

Yeah, the all oneness does not want workship only experience! It is great!

Love

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by Stardustaquarion

Yeah, the all oneness does not want workship only experience! It is great!

Love

It's a one way street from Her.

[371]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

The Goddess worships us!

This could be the unseen spiritual battle between "good and evil" divine entities.

The Goddess worships her creation, whilst the mean old tyrant God condemns it and orders it around.

Why would a Goddes worship her creation? Do you WORSHIP your children? Or art or jewelery whatever you do?

And why do you think female=good, male=evil?

Isn't that what you said you disliked about Man's religion (Christian belief systems); the desire to paint everything black and white, good and evil?

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by 371

Why would a Goddes worship her creation? Do you WORSHIP your children? Or art or jewelery whatever you do?

And why do you think female=good, male=evil?

Isn't that what you said you disliked about Man's religion (Christian belief systems); the desire to paint everything black and white, good and evil?

It's just the way it is. The outpouring cannot be refracted back to the source.

It's a one way street. You can't give anything to the real God, who is a Goddess.

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

You can give anything to the real God, who is a Goddess.

if you want it to be Goddess fine

if you want it to be God fine too


but please do not confuse it with what is real and not

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by RedeZra

if you want it to be Goddess fine

She spoke to me and orchestrated millennial miraculous "coincidences" on my behalf, so to speak, to save me.

So, it's She.

Whatever you want it to be, don't confuse it with what it is, SHE.

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

Whatever you want it to be, don't confuse it with what it is, SHE.

lol I know my mother's Mother

and I know She has a Husband

and many Children


the Light is above every Universal Laws

also the Law of Gender

[Aztar]

Originally Posted by RedeZra

lol I know my mother's Mother

and I know She has a Husband

and many Children


the Light is above every Universal Laws

also the Law of Gender

Bingo

Spiritual Awakenings can be a smooth ride or a rough ride, its depends on several factors not all of which I am aware of, if you have studied eastern texts or indigenous cultures they speak of preparation for spiritual experiences, centuries of practices passed down verbally and textually by knowledgeable men and women who "prepare those who show signs" for what they will be awakening within themselves. This road to awakening has on it "Pitfalls" that if your not prepared for can distract, this isn't a bad thing really as the Universe has an endless supply of guidance, love and patience.

This is a Interesting Letter by a man named Sri Aurobindo about this process.

The Intermediate Zone
http://kundalini.se/aurobindo-sv.html

Of course mythology is full of these stories, These are tales that deal with personal spiritual growth as well as a Cultural & Universal Jungian Archetypes.
Joseph Campbell tells many of these tales in books such as;

The Hero with a Thousand Faces (1949)
The Hero's Journey (1987)

When you no longer are compelled by desire and fear . . when you have seen the radiance in eternity from all forms of time . . when you follow your bliss . . doors will open where you would not have thought there were doors . . and the world will step in and help. Joseph Campbell

I have found that you have only to take that one step toward the gods, and they will then take ten steps toward you. That step, the heroic first step of the journey, is out of, or over the edge of, your boundaries, and it often must be taken before you know that you will. Joseph Campbell

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by Aztar

I have found that you have only to take that one step toward the gods, and they will then take ten steps toward you. That step, the heroic first step of the journey, is out of, or over the edge of, your boundaries, and it often must be taken before you know that you will. Joseph Campbell

That's a perfect summary of my story. What I find to be extremely problematic, is that...

In translating the real into the summary type, wisdom type, philosophical analytical knowledge, the LIFE of it is LOST.

IOW, people believe the only necessary response to what is happening, is to analyze it and make a statement about it.

And usually that statement, at least in my case, where I am living the greatest true story ever told, that statement COMPLETELY negates the LIFE of it.

Not one person has made any statement whatsoever even remotely close to suggesting that this story has any relevance, it's all the same ol' same ol'.

No wonder the Goddess is very angry.

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

IOW, people believe the only necessary response to what is happening, is to analyze it and make a statement about it.

one has to live it

to think speak and act it


head heart hands

must work in unison

else one is not believable


there is no blessing in lip service

it's just a mean to get ahead in this world


people are being played all the time

also by discarnate spirits

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by RedeZra

head heart hands must work in unison else one is not believable there is no blessing in lip service it's just a mean to get ahead in this world people are being played all the time also by discarnate spirits.

My point is the signs from god are obvious and unambiguous, and no one cares.

I didn't make them happen.

The signs and miracles appeared, OVER and OVER again, and paint an unambiguous picture.

The works are there and the words and the spirit is perfectly clear.

People just would rather die than admit someone is chosen or special.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

That's a perfect summary of my story. What I find to be extremely problematic, is that...

In translating the real into the summary type, wisdom type, philosophical analytical knowledge, the LIFE of it is LOST.

IOW, people believe the only necessary response to what is happening, is to analyze it and make a statement about it.

And usually that statement, at least in my case, where I am living the greatest true story ever told, that statement COMPLETELY negates the LIFE of it.

Not one person has made any statement whatsoever even remotely close to suggesting that this story has any relevance, it's all the same ol' same ol'.

No wonder the Goddess is very angry.

I think I missed something here...which Goddess are you speaking of?

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by BROOK

I think I missed something here...which Goddess are you speaking of?

The Goddess Ma'at, but She didn't say her name.

I think it was Ma'at, because I was talking about the show Lost, a couple days before She spoke to me, and about Ma'at, and Egypt, and the Goddess that I think the island on the show LOST is going to be portrayed as...

The greatest true story ever told... That's why I say I am the New Age Messiah.

BTW... She said "I'm very angry.... cooking."

[14 Chakras]

Originally Posted by BROOK

I think I missed something here...which Goddess are you speaking of?

I mean no offence, I will simply suggest an alternative way of looking at "Ma-at" and the worship of mater. It is nice to have opportunity to discuss.

The "Goddess" being referred to is Ma'at, whom I would personally suggest is an Egyptian fallen being that represents the worship of matter ~ which is indeed anti-Christ and anti-Father because it is all about maintaining the illusion of separation, the illusion that spiritual is wrong and matter should never transcend itself, should stay in it's limited, suffering form for eternity, even while all the co-creators descend the depths of suffering and use up all their energy and light and are left with nothing.

This is what Ma'at and the fallen goddess consciousness represents (my personal take), the separation of spirit and matter. The denial of the Divine Father. The denial of the God Flame within all humanity. The denial of the Spiritual.

The return of the Divine Mother is at hand surely, however, I would personally say, the Divine Mother does not worship matter, rather it is Mater (Mater is Latin for Mother) and it is in perfect balance with the Divine Father, which is spiritual.

The goal of creation is to raise up the Mother so it meets the Father, not to deny the Father and worship only mater.

The balance of the Father Mother is our source. When we achieve balance within ourselves on Father Mother ~ then we are back in the Divine Flow of things...

As above so below, Mater is raised in vibration so that it is clear there is no separation from the spiritual. I AM a spiritual Being having a material experience in the sphere of Oneness.


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[BROOK]

Originally Posted by 14 Chakras

I mean no offence, I will simply suggest an alternative way of looking at "Ma-at"
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Oh...Okay..thanks for clarifying that

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by BROOK

Oh...Okay..thanks for clarifying that

More like, thanks for completely obliterating the signs from the GODDESS in the name of your limited understanding and egotistical arrogance.

[New Age Messiah]

There are various scholarly interpretations of who or what Ma'at was, but this quote below is closest to my motto, which was "Reality is God, when you pretend or lie, you cease to exist you die."

My motto was proved true by my story, ordained and orchestrated by a Goddess, who spoke to me.


"Egypt, then, was seen to be nothing without Ma'at.

Ma'at was reality, the solid grounding of reality that made the Sun rise, the stars shine, the river flood and mankind think. The universe itself, all the world around them, was sacred in the ancient view. "Ethics" is an issue of human will and human permission. It is a function of the human world of duality. What is "ethical" for one group is sin for another. But Ma'at, the reality that made all groups what they are is transcendent of ethics, just as a rock or a flower is amoral, a-ethical, without "truth or falsehood." How can a flower be "false" or "ethical." It just is. How can the universe be "ethical or moral, right or wrong"? It simply is. That is Ma'at."

http://www.touregypt.net/godsofegypt/maat2.htm


Of course, I am sure 14 Chakras knows better than those dumb Egyptians.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

More like, thanks for completely obliterating the signs from the GODDESS in the name of your limited understanding and egotistical arrogance.

That is a totally un necessary remark...I really did not know which Goddes was being spoken about. And let me tell you something..I know a whole lot about the Goddess...I give you the floor.

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by BROOK

That is a totally un necessary remark...I really did not know which Goddes was being spoken about. And let me tell you something..I know a whole lot about the Goddess...I give you the floor.

14 Chakras has repeatedly pestered and insulted me, and he called the Goddess that spoke to me evil or fallen, so it was very necessary.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

14 Chakras has repeatedly pestered and insulted me, and he called the Goddess that spoke to me evil or fallen, so it was very necessary.

Never the less, it was still un necessary to call me egotistical and arrogance.
You do net even know me. You might want to ask your Goddess about me and my Egyptian connection

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by BROOK

Never the less, it was still un necessary to call me egotistical and arrogance.
You do net even know me. You might want to ask your Goddess about me and my Egyptian connection

Ni, 14 Chakras runs around all the time trying to correct or impugn me, calling me egotistical or whatever...

You misinterpreted...

I didn't say it about you... OK???

[Ross H]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

14 Chakras has repeatedly pestered and insulted me, and he called the Goddess that spoke to me evil or fallen, so it was very necessary.

NAM, I have read all the above pages on this thread, while your view is your personal message, so is 14chakras:Quote:

This is what Ma'at and the fallen goddess consciousness represents (my personal take), the separation of spirit and matter. The denial of the Divine Father. The denial of the God Flame within all humanity. The denial of the Spiritual.

You get that? , THE 'my personal take', this is not insulting in any way shape or form. 14 chakras has the insight to use such words as, my personal take on things, while being sensitive to others views.

Please refrain from being 'holier than thou' and make better use of the emotion icons. This is not the best way to communicate your message.

Peace.