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Originally Posted by trainedobserver
Which is of human origin. I mean no offense but you were saved by other human beings. All we have is other human beings. Your AA experience illustrates it perfectly. Spiritual experiences are all human experiences which are sometimes inexplicable given the available data, the human imagination will often construct various things about the experience in an attempt to understand it or simply fit it into our understanding of the world. You owe your sobriety not to some supernatural miracle experience by you or the founder of AA. You owe it to the experience and actions of other human beings. I hope you enjoy a long and fruitful sobriety.
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Yes but by the same token -- how come my friends wife kids Dr couldent get me sober?
You are welcome to your belief system as long as it works for you ,great.
Mine works for me and thats what it is a belief system
Ramesh said be clear. "The teaching of every sage is a concept"
The only thing that is valid is subjective experience.
Possibly the only one that every one can agree on is that "I" exist.
I wrote about Kundalini experience. I had a lot of the symptoms before I had read one word about Kundalini. Thats a subjective expeience.
When one thing happens its a "May be so"
When you get more that the average number of "coincidences then thats a little different
Basically I think we agree on most things except the proof of a God.
The mind does what it does I am not the mind.
The body breathes in and out by itself I cant stop it for more than a few moments.
Its not me.
The question is "What am I"
I believe what mystics have said since time immemorial.
We are all waves of the Divine ocean.
Regards Chris