IMPORTANT! Deagle articles

wintersun · 10-07-2008, 01:37 PM

Hi guys.. My first post here, but I've been reading regularly.

I actually found the articles David Wilcock spoke of in his last interview with PC. It appears that mr Deagle really has some serious issues.

Take a look at this:

http://www.thecoast.ca/Articles-i-20...yton_Park.html

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/***..._away_dr_w.php

http://www.prophecyclub.com/article_...ept-oct_02.htm

http://www.stephenkimber.com/blog.php?cid=118

I can't believe why Bill and Kerry even mention him at all! This guy compares himself with Jesus, Moses and who knows what. Unbelievable!

In my opinion, Project Camelot made the biggest mistake yet when they interviewed him.

sunflower · 10-07-2008, 02:19 PM

The Coast article is very interesting and revealing. By the way, your second link (Phoenix) doesn't work.

I had watched part of the Grenada Conference video. I found it unsettling that Bill D. spoke so quickly, changed topics very rapidly and offered no references to back up his allegations. Plus everything now seems mixed up with channeling sauced in a biblical flavour, an area where serious discernment is very critical.

I choose to ignore his allegations!

wintersun · 10-07-2008, 02:35 PM

Darn, the second link doesnt work cos it had the word B A S T A R D. Just type it instead of "******" (without the spaces between the letters) in the link address. It should work fine then

Orion11 · 10-07-2008, 02:42 PM

lol
wow.

wintersun · 10-07-2008, 02:56 PM

Wow in deed. This guy is dangerous! Once his idiotic statements are proven wrong (like, tomorow? hehe

), it would be very nice if Project Camelot would make an official statement that they DO NOT agree with him!

People are being frightened for no reason. This guy makes more mess than christianity in the age of inquisition. Which is probably where he would fit in best.

ladyluck · 10-07-2008, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wintersun

I can't believe why Bill and Kerry even mention him at all! This guy compares himself with Jesus, Moses and who knows what. Unbelievable!

In my opinion, Project Camelot made the biggest mistake yet when they interviewed him.

I must admit that I agree with Wintersun!

discernment & research is always required.

Orion Morris · 10-07-2008, 03:35 PM

I have been waiting for the 7th to pass for a while now and it looks like it is going to.

I hope all the time and energy people spent on scaring people into "preparing" for today is finally going to be directed in a positive direction. I am sick of hearing about the apocolypse.

I will run for it when the time comes.

Ampgod · 10-07-2008, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wintersun

Hi guys.. My first post here, but I've been reading regularly.

I actually found the articles David Wilcock spoke of in his last interview with PC. It appears that mr Deagle really has some serious issues.

Take a look at this:

http://www.thecoast.ca/Articles-i-20...yton_Park.html

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/***..._away_dr_w.php

http://www.prophecyclub.com/article_...ept-oct_02.htm

http://www.stephenkimber.com/blog.php?cid=118

I can't believe why Bill and Kerry even mention him at all! This guy compares himself with Jesus, Moses and who knows what. Unbelievable!

In my opinion, Project Camelot made the biggest mistake yet when they interviewed him.

I think Bill & Kerry got drawn in by this man and are second guessing themselves on how they reacted to his information.
Bill and Kerry are doing what they do best here.
Giving the people the tools to work with.

I was glad to see this interview as it made many people look at how silly they were being. It should help to create some balance.

micjer · 10-07-2008, 03:42 PM

Thanks for the leads wintersun. The 4th article is very informative. He reminds me of Ronald Wienland with the Church Of God and his end of world prophicies. I think David Wilcock has this guy figured out.

I don't trust anyone who seems to be in it for the money. (selling his goods)

wintersun · 10-07-2008, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ampgod

I think Bill & Kerry got drawn in by this man and are second guessing themselves on how they reacted to his information.
Bill and Kerry are doing what they do best here.
Giving the people the tools to work with.

I was glad to see this interview as it made many people look at how silly they were being. It should help to create some balance.

I agree, but the real fact is that they've given him WAY to much credit. And for what?? Does this man deserve it in any way?

I mean, I'm not afraid for my life, cos I'm pretty far away from the USA, but I can imagine all those people how they must feel right now, who actually believed him, or even CONSIDERED his stories to be true.

Reveling John · 10-07-2008, 03:46 PM

Hold on.

Project Camelot is not a filter. Bill and Kerry are not professional skeptics, and they seem to try very hard not to lay their own opinion over the information that they record and distribute. If it is so clear that Mr. Deagle is not genuine, then they don't need to discredit him...you already have.

It's good that you guys figured this out through your own research. That's what Bill and Kerry have been prescribing for years.

Great Love,
John

10-07-2008, 04:14 PM

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10-07-2008, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wintersun

In my opinion, Project Camelot made the biggest mistake yet when they interviewed him.

They allow you an audience also, do they not?

micjer · 10-07-2008, 04:39 PM

I don't blame Bill and Kerry. In fact I thank them for bringing all of the information to us. They wouldn't feel very good if something happened today and didn't act on Dr. Deagle's phone call. I feel also that Dr. Deagle has some very good information we should know about.

I just feel he pushes the doom and gloom too much like an evangelistic minister for my liking.

wintersun · 10-07-2008, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micjer

I don't blame Bill and Kerry. In fact I thank them for bringing all of the information to us. They wouldn't feel very good if something happened today and didn't act on Dr. Deagle's phone call. I feel also that Dr. Deagle has some very good information we should know about.

I just feel he pushes the doom and gloom too much like an evangelistic minister for my liking.

Yes. But how can we trust any information with the kind of history this guy has?

10-07-2008, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wintersun

Yes. But how can we trust any information with the kind of history this guy has?

This is not about trust. Certainly you would not sell the
farm based on one data point. It is trends we
look for from a variety of sources.

Dr Deagle's comments stand by themselves and require
no comment or action because it is just one data point

Obviously, even doing trend analysis you can still be wrong

http://books.google.com/books?id=NFG...um=3&ct=result

and you try not to skew the trend line too far one way or another with an errant data point...

Just let him be and watch the data stream unfold. He will
be supported if he is correct.

You can even find use for dubious sources such as Sorcha Faal. As a mixed source
of truth and lies, they get their information from somewhere. The trick comes winnowing the truth
out from the lies. Using this technique in 2006 we bought into gold at 570.
It failed to go to the 2000 per ounce that was predicted at that time. Have we lost?

SpaceMonkey · 10-07-2008, 06:32 PM

Check out this thread on ATS!
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread398534/pg1
He's a very dodgy character indeed. I never believe people who claim to be profits because anyone can say that and not have to have anything to back it up. My guess is that he's taking advantage of what whistleblowers and researchers are saying is going to happen.

wintersun · 10-07-2008, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey

Check out this thread on ATS!
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread398534/pg1
He's a very dodgy character indeed. I never believe people who claim to be profits because anyone can say that and not have to have anything to back it up. My guess is that he's taking advantage of what whistleblowers and researchers are saying is going to happen.

... and also trying to get even more publicity.

wintersun · 10-07-2008, 06:48 PM

Baggywrinkle,

Ok, you have a point there, however, some "data points" are not even worth considering, cos they might do more damage then good right from the start! At least I'm glad that once this is over, he will finally loose his credibility. Unless he finds another way to justify himself again.

I always do take everything in consideration. And I already did that! Simply by studying what he is and what he has to say. AND what other resources talk about him.

Antaletriangle · 10-07-2008, 06:53 PM

I'm being indifferent here.Bill Deagle did say that the seventh would be the start of the freefall-not that nuclear incidents would happen today just that financial crisis would deepen alot further which would lead to martial law soon for a small period then nuke activity then avian flu/some sort of plague.I agree it's fearmongering and we can do without it;just stay on the touchline and see how the match progresses with info. at this level.I tend to think that prophets and suchlike can't ever give an exact time but maybe able to provide a timeframe;these timeframes are what we all know deep inside anyway.

10-07-2008, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wintersun

Hi guys.. My first post here, but I've been reading regularly.

I actually found the articles David Wilcock spoke of in his last interview with PC. It appears that mr Deagle really has some serious issues.

Take a look at this:

http://www.thecoast.ca/Articles-i-20...yton_Park.html

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/***..._away_dr_w.php

http://www.prophecyclub.com/article_...ept-oct_02.htm

http://www.stephenkimber.com/blog.php?cid=118

I can't believe why Bill and Kerry even mention him at all! This guy compares himself with Jesus, Moses and who knows what. Unbelievable!

In my opinion, Project Camelot made the biggest mistake yet when they interviewed him.

The guy is deeply deeply deluded.

I feel sorry for him.

Hope he gets the help he needs.

wintersun · 10-07-2008, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NINE

The guy is deeply deeply deluded.

I feel sorry for him.

Hope he gets the help he needs.

jimbo83478 · 10-07-2008, 07:02 PM

I saw Deagle's Granada Forum speech a few months ago and he just seems way to ego-driven. I'm no psychologist, but everything he says seems to be presented in a manner as if he is trying to convince the audience that he is smarter than them; that he knows more than them. It is as if his incessant self-affirmations are over-compensation for something. As was stated above, he moves from topic to topic rather hastily and even in the Oct 4 interview he sounds rather disjointed and does not bother to explain or clarify certain information.

I understand that credibility is not defined by humility - and just because someone does not present information as clearly and concisely as a professor does not mean they are lying - but my gut reaction to Deagle is that he is an ego trip.

Ngai Te Rangi · 10-07-2008, 07:04 PM

Just as i thought, I woke up in Australia to jack nothing which I guess is a good thing considering this bloke as Wilcock suspected, to be a talking blurb.

sunnyrap · 10-07-2008, 07:07 PM

Bill & Kerry have found much of Deagle's information to be very accurate and backed up by multiple sources or they would not have given him the credence they did.

The other thing to consider is that he was very entrenched in the shadow government himself, then left it out of conscience. I've read one account after another of others in that situation coming under acute attack afterwards, even to their destruction/death. If you had a guy like this shouting your secret plans to the heavens and you had the technology to come after him...probably the most brilliant move would be to discredit him in the eyes of the audience he was trying to reach.

Taking what he says with a grain of salt without swallowing it whole and making yourself to stay in a stable place about it is just prudent. But utterly discrediting all he says without taking it under advisement and keeping a watchful eye might be very, very foolish, which is why B&K brought you the message, I expect.

10-07-2008, 01:37 PM	#1
wintersun Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 56	IMPORTANT! Deagle articles Hi guys.. My first post here, but I've been reading regularly. I actually found the articles David Wilcock spoke of in his last interview with PC. It appears that mr Deagle really has some serious issues. Take a look at this: http://www.thecoast.ca/Articles-i-20...yton_Park.html http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/**..._away_dr_w.php http://www.prophecyclub.com/article_...ept-oct_02.htm http://www.stephenkimber.com/blog.php?cid=118 I can't believe why Bill and Kerry even mention him at all! This guy compares himself with Jesus, Moses and who knows what. Unbelievable! In my opinion, Project Camelot made the biggest mistake yet when they interviewed him. Last edited by wintersun; 10-07-2008 at 02:32 PM.*

10-07-2008, 02:19 PM	#2
sunflower Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 443	Re: IMPORTANT! Deagle articles The Coast article is very interesting and revealing. By the way, your second link (Phoenix) doesn't work. I had watched part of the Grenada Conference video. I found it unsettling that Bill D. spoke so quickly, changed topics very rapidly and offered no references to back up his allegations. Plus everything now seems mixed up with channeling sauced in a biblical flavour, an area where serious discernment is very critical. I choose to ignore his allegations!

10-07-2008, 02:35 PM	#3
wintersun Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 56	Re: IMPORTANT! Deagle articles Darn, the second link doesnt work cos it had the word B A S T A R D. Just type it instead of "******" (without the spaces between the letters) in the link address. It should work fine then

10-07-2008, 02:42 PM	#4
Orion11 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,098	Re: IMPORTANT! Deagle articles lol wow.

10-07-2008, 02:56 PM	#5
wintersun Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 56	Re: IMPORTANT! Deagle articles Wow in deed. This guy is dangerous! Once his idiotic statements are proven wrong (like, tomorow? hehe ), it would be very nice if Project Camelot would make an official statement that they DO NOT agree with him! People are being frightened for no reason. This guy makes more mess than christianity in the age of inquisition. Which is probably where he would fit in best.

10-07-2008, 03:35 PM	#7
Orion Morris Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 416	Re: IMPORTANT! Deagle articles I have been waiting for the 7th to pass for a while now and it looks like it is going to. I hope all the time and energy people spent on scaring people into "preparing" for today is finally going to be directed in a positive direction. I am sick of hearing about the apocolypse. I will run for it when the time comes.

10-07-2008, 03:42 PM	#9
micjer Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ont. CANADA Posts: 1,043	Re: IMPORTANT! Deagle articles Thanks for the leads wintersun. The 4th article is very informative. He reminds me of Ronald Wienland with the Church Of God and his end of world prophicies. I think David Wilcock has this guy figured out. I don't trust anyone who seems to be in it for the money. (selling his goods)

10-07-2008, 03:46 PM	#11
Reveling John Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 89	Re: IMPORTANT! Deagle articles Hold on. Project Camelot is not a filter. Bill and Kerry are not professional skeptics, and they seem to try very hard not to lay their own opinion over the information that they record and distribute. If it is so clear that Mr. Deagle is not genuine, then they don't need to discredit him...you already have. It's good that you guys figured this out through your own research. That's what Bill and Kerry have been prescribing for years. Great Love, John

10-07-2008, 04:14 PM	#12
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10-07-2008, 04:39 PM	#14
micjer Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ont. CANADA Posts: 1,043	Re: IMPORTANT! Deagle articles I don't blame Bill and Kerry. In fact I thank them for bringing all of the information to us. They wouldn't feel very good if something happened today and didn't act on Dr. Deagle's phone call. I feel also that Dr. Deagle has some very good information we should know about. I just feel he pushes the doom and gloom too much like an evangelistic minister for my liking.

10-07-2008, 06:32 PM	#17
SpaceMonkey Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 83	Re: IMPORTANT! Deagle articles Check out this thread on ATS! http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread398534/pg1 He's a very dodgy character indeed. I never believe people who claim to be profits because anyone can say that and not have to have anything to back it up. My guess is that he's taking advantage of what whistleblowers and researchers are saying is going to happen.

10-07-2008, 06:48 PM	#19
wintersun Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 56	Re: IMPORTANT! Deagle articles Baggywrinkle, Ok, you have a point there, however, some "data points" are not even worth considering, cos they might do more damage then good right from the start! At least I'm glad that once this is over, he will finally loose his credibility. Unless he finds another way to justify himself again. I always do take everything in consideration. And I already did that! Simply by studying what he is and what he has to say. AND what other resources talk about him.

10-07-2008, 06:53 PM	#20
Antaletriangle Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: U.K. Posts: 3,380	Re: IMPORTANT! Deagle articles I'm being indifferent here.Bill Deagle did say that the seventh would be the start of the freefall-not that nuclear incidents would happen today just that financial crisis would deepen alot further which would lead to martial law soon for a small period then nuke activity then avian flu/some sort of plague.I agree it's fearmongering and we can do without it;just stay on the touchline and see how the match progresses with info. at this level.I tend to think that prophets and suchlike can't ever give an exact time but maybe able to provide a timeframe;these timeframes are what we all know deep inside anyway.

10-07-2008, 07:02 PM	#23
jimbo83478 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3	Re: IMPORTANT! Deagle articles I saw Deagle's Granada Forum speech a few months ago and he just seems way to ego-driven. I'm no psychologist, but everything he says seems to be presented in a manner as if he is trying to convince the audience that he is smarter than them; that he knows more than them. It is as if his incessant self-affirmations are over-compensation for something. As was stated above, he moves from topic to topic rather hastily and even in the Oct 4 interview he sounds rather disjointed and does not bother to explain or clarify certain information. I understand that credibility is not defined by humility - and just because someone does not present information as clearly and concisely as a professor does not mean they are lying - but my gut reaction to Deagle is that he is an ego trip.

10-07-2008, 07:04 PM	#24
Ngai Te Rangi Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 42	Re: IMPORTANT! Deagle articles Just as i thought, I woke up in Australia to jack nothing which I guess is a good thing considering this bloke as Wilcock suspected, to be a talking blurb.

10-07-2008, 07:07 PM	#25
sunnyrap Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 147	Re: IMPORTANT! Deagle articles Bill & Kerry have found much of Deagle's information to be very accurate and backed up by multiple sources or they would not have given him the credence they did. The other thing to consider is that he was very entrenched in the shadow government himself, then left it out of conscience. I've read one account after another of others in that situation coming under acute attack afterwards, even to their destruction/death. If you had a guy like this shouting your secret plans to the heavens and you had the technology to come after him...probably the most brilliant move would be to discredit him in the eyes of the audience he was trying to reach. Taking what he says with a grain of salt without swallowing it whole and making yourself to stay in a stable place about it is just prudent. But utterly discrediting all he says without taking it under advisement and keeping a watchful eye might be very, very foolish, which is why B&K brought you the message, I expect.