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Old 10-05-2008, 06:56 AM   #1
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I think we need to get a little positive here people. Dr Bill Deagle's phone conversation is only an alert for probable future events. Our planet will only be destroyed (that is what it does every time it hangs like a computer) if we continue our GREED CREED. It needs to start all over agin from scratch because WE continue walking on the wrong path. There are several ways to RESET the planet - one of which is a Pole Shift! Will it happen ? Not if we change our ways.

The collapse of the banking system is probably a blessing in disguise. Sure there will be pain - but there is much to be gained thereafter. The problem is everyone suffers - WE ARE IN THIS TOGETHER!

1) "Together" is an important word which mankind seems to have forgotten on the planet - maybe we are going to be reminded of this word in the coming weeks and months.

2) "Cooperation" is another important word that we seem to have forgotten in favour of Competition. Our lives are pivoted around Competition right from childhood. Top of the class, Best this , best that, best looking, highest salary, highest position, highest bonus, biggest house, etc etc etc..........the list is endless and it all revolves mostly around MONEY! Funny how our lives revolve around something most of which does not even exist!

This results in Separation and Selfishness. This results in unequal distribution of resources on the planet - which is the root cause of all our problems.

So People - The ride seems to have begun - hold tight because we all bought a ticket to this show. NO ONE IS HERE WITHOUT HER OR HIS PERMISSION!

And nothing will happen to LA or Chicago that we did not give our permission for!

REMEMBER - In the ultimate analysis - There is no Evil. There is no Good either! It is just a lesson for the purification of the SOUL.

When I die I will soar with the Angels
When I die to the Angels what shall I become?
You can not imagine! ..........Rumi

Enjoy The Ride.

Peace and Light

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Old 10-05-2008, 01:04 PM   #2
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Respectfully Vega, evil and good really do exist even if we sometimes have problems defining the two. My definition is anything that sustains life is 'good' and anything that destroys life is 'evil'. Also, fear exists as part of the human psyche for a reason. It's a survival mechanism that has gotten us through eons of hard times. I don't think it should be a guiding principal in our decision process but it should be used as an early warning indicator. Time will tell I suppose which of our views will be vindicated but I think there are some difficult times ahead and I intend to use every one of my available resources and faculties to survive. Only when physical security is established do any of us have the luxury of more lofty pursuits.

And seriously on the existence of evil....I have seen things in my life (in war) that are so utterly EVIL that if you don't think evil exists it's only because you've been lucky enough to not have experienced it. On the flip side, I've seen some incredible examples of love manifesting in this world that could only be described in my current lexicon as 'good'. These extremes are so pronounced that I must conclude that these are true immutable forces of the universe so fundamental that they are a driving force of creation itself. The Hindu texts refer to it as 'the dance'.

So, how much damage is done by telling people 'nothing to see here, move along' versus 'get ready for trouble'? Are there times in life where problems really do come along or not?

To close I would like to leave you a quote from a book I'm reading that supports your thesis. I don't want you to think I'm attacking your point or that I disagree with everything you're saying;

"If I gave in to fear, I would end up killing my soul to save my body"
The Country Under my Skin by Gioconda Belli
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Old 10-05-2008, 01:37 PM   #3
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I didn't give my permission for 9/11. Can we please rewind?

I hereby retract any permission for anything bad to happen. Whew... safe now!

I'm not trying to be negative or malign comments. In principle, I agree that we do much to create our own future. Positive brings positive. I live my life trying to improve all around me.

However, I also don't believe that we should bury our heads in the sand. If only wishing it away would make it so...

I plan on approaching my future with eyes wide open, hope for the future, and journying towards enlightenment. I wll also maintain awareness that not everyone in society shares my ideals, that some have bad intentions, and that awareness and preparation can be positive.

While I don't believe we can wish away some of the things that are coming, we can be prepared to shape a different future. I choose to devote my life to that positive future, but not in a way that ignores reality.

It is only fear mongering if your attitude sees it as such. My glass is half full.
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Old 10-05-2008, 02:13 PM   #4
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I read somewhere that by thinking in the negative, we are feeding the interdimentional beings and bringing about the very things we don't want. If this is not true, I am still going to think positive because I am fed up of living in the mode of doom and gloom, If it is true, then same applies. I refuse to think negative, things might not be great, but we can make a diffeence by what we think and project. Love and peace to all.
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Old 10-05-2008, 02:28 PM   #5
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So People - The ride seems to have begun - hold tight because we all bought a ticket to this show. NO ONE IS HERE WITHOUT HER OR HIS PERMISSION!
VEGA
I still can make a good case, that this 'vacation' destiny is a mistake, I booked for heaven (Anything else would be 'evil' and disaster tourism.), to experience joy, happiness, love, togetherness, beauty...
However, maybe this is just the first part of a 2 part trip, since I have to experience all the opposites before I can really be grateful for the things I set out to experience in my ultimate vacation trip.

"And here I find myself, pondering about the situation I am in, I can jump inside to what seems to be an unavoidable death in the dark, and I can jump outside to what seems to be an unavoidable death. Or I can wait until the blood loss caused by the numerous deep slices in my feet drain so much blood, that I lose my consciousness and the decision to jump in or outside the smokestack is taken from me."
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Old 10-05-2008, 02:45 PM   #6
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Vega, your message was beautiful. Thank you for that.

Of course you are right, ultimately the polarity is one, we signed up for this, nothing happens to us without our higher self's permission.

But change is hard and painful, and none of us are really looking forward to going through the times ahead. Fear is the natural response...but I'll try not to monger.
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Old 10-05-2008, 06:12 PM   #7
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Fear accomplishes nothing for us and everything for them. Fearmongers understand better than the rest of us maybe, that fear proceeds from attachment. No attachment = no fear. Hardly anyone reaches the point of no attachments, but hardly anyone tries, either.

We cannot think clearly while afraid, cannot make good choices. Whether each of you can cope with some upcoming disaster is a question I cannot answer. I do not see disasters, only changes and opportunities. I see tragedies uncounted, but I cannot change the vast majority of them. The opportunity is there to grow and help others and become stronger: seize it. I see mankind striving to lift itself from an ignoble dream. I see nations struggling to grow up. I see noble ideas flash around the world to millions of people. I hear the word Love spoken in its incorrupt sense for the first time in decades.

I know the banks will fail, people will be uprooted, there will be wars. These things have already happened, in our own time and countless times before. What I do not know is who will be affected, or how much. I do know I have the strength and the resources to endure for a while, at least. My intent is to use my time wisely, and allowing fear to penetrate my heart would prevent that.
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Old 10-05-2008, 06:13 PM   #8
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say in your heart , that is all ,
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Old 10-05-2008, 06:15 PM   #9
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Old 10-05-2008, 06:19 PM   #10
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I think we need to get a little positive here people. Dr Bill Deagle's phone conversation is only an alert for probable future events. Our planet will only be destroyed (that is what it does every time it hangs like a computer) if we continue our GREED CREED. It needs to start all over agin from scratch because WE continue walking on the wrong path. There are several ways to RESET the planet - one of which is a Pole Shift! Will it happen ? Not if we change our ways.

The collapse of the banking system is probably a blessing in disguise. Sure there will be pain - but there is much to be gained thereafter. The problem is everyone suffers - WE ARE IN THIS TOGETHER!

1) "Together" is an important word which mankind seems to have forgotten on the planet - maybe we are going to be reminded of this word in the coming weeks and months.

2) "Cooperation" is another important word that we seem to have forgotten in favour of Competition. Our lives are pivoted around Competition right from childhood. Top of the class, Best this , best that, best looking, highest salary, highest position, highest bonus, biggest house, etc etc etc..........the list is endless and it all revolves mostly around MONEY! Funny how our lives revolve around something most of which does not even exist!

This results in Separation and Selfishness. This results in unequal distribution of resources on the planet - which is the root cause of all our problems.

So People - The ride seems to have begun - hold tight because we all bought a ticket to this show. NO ONE IS HERE WITHOUT HER OR HIS PERMISSION!

And nothing will happen to LA or Chicago that we did not give our permission for!

REMEMBER - In the ultimate analysis - There is no Evil. There is no Good either! It is just a lesson for the purification of the SOUL.

When I die I will soar with the Angels
When I die to the Angels what shall I become?
You can not imagine! ..........Rumi

Enjoy The Ride.

Peace and Light

VEGA
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