At One with Duality

[TheObserver]

I don't do astrology but being told i am Gemini by nature of my 6/6/63 birth date (my grandpa always reminded me my B-day was D-day btw!! )
i may shed unique viewpoints on the subject of dualism. We are all capable of good and bad, we can be selfish and giving.
In my drinking days i would blame bad behavior on my 'evil twin', but in the end one has no choice but to accept everything as experience and go forward with no regrets.

Another thought i have is seeing transcendence of duality thus: imagine a coin, it is two sided, it is in some sense only two dimensional,
you can roll it on a table top but is quite unstable and will easily fall. Now imagine that coin puffing out into a pinball ie transcending from 2 to 3D,
it can now roll in any direction with ease.

I don't know how to 'puff out' to other dimensions but feel free to interpret, discuss or critique. I just thought i'd roll this at ya!

[Luminari]

[mudra]

You are coming up is a very good point The Observer.

I may shock some here but I have come to realize lately that in the soul realm choosing to endorse the dark side 's role on this plane can be seen as an act stemming from Love itself for in so doing it help others to make choices that, as awakening and growth in consciousness take place, will ultimately culminate into the triggering of our soul qualities of compassion and forgiveness and raise our responsibility to the fact that we are creating our own world. When you can have compassion and forgiveness for all that is you have come to realize that you are in the center of your own universe where the fine line that was once put between " good " and " bad" do not exist anymore for Love integrates both parts into Oneness with all that is .

It is a saying that your worst enemy is your best friend and that the pain that you carry is the Love that you withold. I understand these in the Light of the above. There are many ways to adress darkness : you can fight it , you can fear it ,you can defend yourself against it or you can run away . All these are steps in the process of consciousness's growth and as such have their own value .But ultimately you'll have to integrate it through Love and compassion and see through your Heart , the soul's heart , that in your opponent there is another you.

Love Always
mudra

Originally Posted by TheObserver

In my drinking days i would blame bad behavior on my 'evil twin', but in the end one has no choice but to accept everything as experience and go forward with no regrets.

Another thought i have is seeing transcendence of duality thus: imagine a coin, it is two sided, it is in some sense only two dimensional,
you can roll it on a table top but is quite unstable and will easily fall. Now imagine that coin puffing out into a pinball ie transcending from 2 to 3D,
it can now roll in any direction with ease.

[Jonathon]

Originally Posted by mudra

You are coming up is a very good point The Observer.

I may shock some here but I have come to realize lately that in the soul realm choosing to endorse the dark side 's role on this plane can be seen as an act stemming from Love itself for in so doing it help others to make choices that, as awakening and growth in consciousness take place, will ultimately culminate into the triggering of our soul qualities of compassion and forgiveness and raise our responsibility to the fact that we are creating our own world. When you can have compassion and forgiveness for all that is you have come to realize that you are in the center of your own universe where the fine line that was once put between " good " and " bad" do not exist anymore for Love integrates both parts into Oneness with all that is .

It is a saying that your worst enemy is your best friend and that the pain that you carry is the Love that you withold. I understand these in the Light of the above. There are many ways to adress darkness : you can fight it , you can fear it ,you can defend yourself against it or you can run away . All these are steps in the process of consciousness's growth and as such have their own value .But ultimately you'll have to integrate it through Love and compassion and see through your Heart , the soul's heart , that in your opponent there is another you.

Love Always
mudra

Amen Mudra! Namaste!

[greybeard]

Originally Posted by mudra

You are coming up is a very good point The Observer.

I may shock some here but I have come to realize lately that in the soul realm choosing to endorse the dark side 's role on this plane can be seen as an act stemming from Love itself for in so doing it help others to make choices that, as awakening and growth in consciousness take place, will ultimately culminate into the triggering of our soul qualities of compassion and forgiveness and raise our responsibility to the fact that we are creating our own world. When you can have compassion and forgiveness for all that is you have come to realize that you are in the center of your own universe where the fine line that was once put between " good " and " bad" do not exist anymore for Love integrates both parts into Oneness with all that is .

It is a saying that your worst enemy is your best friend and that the pain that you carry is the Love that you withold. I understand these in the Light of the above. There are many ways to adress darkness : you can fight it , you can fear it ,you can defend yourself against it or you can run away . All these are steps in the process of consciousness's growth and as such have their own value .But ultimately you'll have to integrate it through Love and compassion and see through your Heart , the soul's heart , that in your opponent there is another you.

Love Always
mudra

My understanding is that " the dark comes from the same place as the light" thats a quote from Yoganada.
We are in the university of evolution of consciousness.
Basically duality is a missunderstanding caused by faulty perception, its a question of linguistics.
If we picture everything on a sliding scale rather that good and evil we have at the top of the scale for example un-conditional love diminishing till we very little love, there is a change from loving everything and everyone ( but not neccesarily condoning actions, discression not judgment is needed) to a very limited love where only ones own actions are loved.

There is a different quality from the top of the scale to the bottom.
ie in the case of water, steam, liquid, ice, still the same basic but different. Hot or cold arent opposites just different states of the same.

We fix an abitary point and call it warm according to out prespective, to an eskimo warm would seem cold to a person living on the equator.

We look for pleasing experiences, in actual fact we are just experiencing, the ego labels it, acceptable or otherwise. There would be no spiritual growth if all experiences were pleasant. (that seems to be a paradox)

I had to hit rock bottom in order to begin the spiritual quest through a 12 step program. Was that rock bottom a gift or a curse?
At the time it seemed horendous, life was not worth living, but without that experience there would not have been the growth that I have been blessed to witness.

We think in terms of good and evil till we realise that without these experiences we would not learn of love and compassion, when we experience unconditional love then we can transcend duality which is ego based. Judge not etc.
Jesus said. "Judge not for they know not what they do" basically they are spiritually ignorant. If they knew better they would do better.

Its a very complex subject which I cant do justice to.
Dr David Hawkins gives the best and clearest information that I have read in books of his like "Eye of the I"

It really helps to realise that the brain is still basically the product of evolution from reptillian to animal to human, the front cortex is a recent addition, so basically we still have the animal survival nature which is the ego saying, my needs wants and desires come first.
The ego is not the enemy it was necessary for survival.
In reality the ego is just buying into the "me" story in the head.
I am not the movie that I witness.
TRUTH is eternal unchanging.
That which looks through the eyes is the same before birth, after birth, after the demise of the body.
Unconditional love puts others wants and needs first so the ego is transcended at that level.
What is done for the "other" is done for the "self"
No soul is superior to another, some have just evolved further.

Thats my understanding as of Now.
Chris
Namaste

[RedeZra]

There is something that does not change


Eternal

the Source Support and Substance of All that changes

Itself changes not


It is without Birth and the Parent of All

Perfect Complete and Whole


It is our Companion and our Witness

the Spirit within every personality


It is the done Big picture

and not a puzzle for us to figure out


what It wills will happen

what It wills not will not happen

what It allows might happen


It is Untouchable

from the touch of time and the embrace of space


It is the Sacred Heart

Worthy of Worship

It's Gifts are Grace and Peace


It is the Aspiration of our hearts

[Ross H]

Before enlightenment, chopping wood, after enlightenment, chopping wood:

I forget where I read these wise words...

Every experience I have had has led me to this point in my exsistence
The good, the bad, the dark, the light, the ego, the higherself...

Here I am now, fully appreciating and embracing the low's that I have experienced, as it has been these experience's, that have bought the love and understanding of all, to the forefront of my reality...

And I'm still chopping wood...

Peace always

[mudra]

I loved this poem RedeZra.
Thank You

Love Always
mudra

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by jross

Before enlightenment, chopping wood, after enlightenment, chopping wood:

It is a Zen saying


One would think that enlightenment brought nothing

but it is the cessation of desire and suffering

and one would chop the wood perfectly lol

Originally Posted by mudra

I loved this poem RedeZra.
Thank You

Oh thank you mudra

I appreciate it

Namaste

[TheObserver]

Thanks for the responses.

Seeing shades of gray, finding balance, knowing that what one considers good can be considered bad by another are all pieces of the puzzle as well.
Everything happens as it is supposed to for a reason. I recall from the film "Tuning In - Spirit Channelers In America" the party for Hitler story,
that we are actors on the stage of life, we may play adversarial roles on the stage and afterward have a party congratulating each other on our performances.

[mudra]

Love Always
mudra

[TheObserver]

Wise words indeed Mudra!

[Ross H]

Originally Posted by TheObserver

Wise words indeed Mudra!

I vote Mudra, for world leader!

Peace always

[TheObserver]

I second that J for the reason that i would see her accepting the post the way Martin Sheen does at the end of "Apocalypse Now"
when the gathered mass bows to him and he responds by dropping his machete and walking thru them to go back home leaving every one to rule themselves.

[mudra]

Lol .. thank You Jross and well spotted The Observer ...
No teacher... no pupil
The Love that you are is the joy that you carry.

Love You both
mudra