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1) Get a BERKEY (or similar) water purifier: gravity fed only, it will convert any non-salt water source (lake, river, stream, mud puddle) into drinkable water. Get enough filters for the housing unit you buy to last for an extended time period. If you have a nearby source of water and plenty of filters, YOU ARE IN FAT CITY. Consider: if you have plentiful supply of drinking water, you can trade this for other items. Almost nobody thinks about water until it is too late and almost everybody will gladly trade to keep themselves from dying of dehydration. TIP: Have the ability to prefilter your water source with a fine weave cloth, coffee filter or similar to preserve your precious filters.
2) Get a good book on COLLOIDAL SILVER and read the incredible killing power of this liquid for bacteria, viruses, fungi, etc that enter the human body, while being totally harmless to the human or animal host. You can make it yourself with three 9 volt batteries, a couple feet of .999 pure silver wire and distilled water. If you wish to purchase, I recommend SUPER SILVER SOLUTION. I've been taking it for over 3 years now and have not had a sick day... very unusual for me, considering my past annual bouts with flus and colds. 3) Get any one of several OXYGEN SUPPLEMENTS on the market, these are life saving in many situations and go a long way to keeping 'bugs' out of your system. Get a good book on the subject and educate yourself. 4) Get the book: SLIM SPURLING'S UNIVERSE, read it, then go to his website and purchase as many of the healing devices as you can afford. They are made from particular geometries of copper wire, have no moving parts or battery requirements, and heal like nobody's business. Every person I have tried them on that had a pain had the pain eliminated very quickly and not come back for quite a while. Get the devices and have simple healing options at your fingertips. 5) Learn about high pH water. Any number of manufacturers make supplements you can add to water to increase the pH... this is VERY healthy and alone can heal many health problems. Research the subject on the internet or get a book. 6) Food options that can store for long periods of time and keep you alive: a) SURVIVAL TABS emergency food rations. (Thats the name of the product) b) POWDERED GREENS available from any of several online and health food stores. Buy by the case and get a discount. c) COCONUT CREAM CONCENTRATE available from the Philippines at www.tropicaltraditions.com. Quite tasty, very healthy and gives you great energy. d) Of course, keep a plentiful supply of canned goods on hand. 7) Give a little thought to each of the survival categories (medicine, lighting, waste disposal, etc) and at least get some supplies to tide you over or give some thought to what you may need, and if money is tight, look for simple solutions (lighting: LED flashlights, batteries, candles) Even the most basic effort will go a long way when the stores and electricity are unavailable. 8) Get the SAS Survival Manual or similar. It is packed with survival ideas that will probably come in REAL handy. 9) Have a plan to 'go mobile' should your house no longer be a safe sanctuary. Having pre-packed bags or at least a master list of stuff to throw in the car/truck will be a real life-saver. (You DID pack those extra reading glasses, right?) This is by no means a complete list, but you get the idea. Plan now while the Dollar Store and Walmart are not swamped with last minute survivalists fighting for supplies for an emergent catastrophe. You won't even have a chance at that time. Greg222 |
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Good advice
![]() Speaking of Walmart, I picked up a food dehyrator for under $40 and have been drying fresh fruits, vegetables and eggs for several weeks now. They have long shelf life, take up very little storage room and are lightweight should you need to move in a hurry. Recipes and techniques are readily available on the internet. You can also pull some of your frozen foods out and dry them instead, in case of power outage. If you drink pop, buy it in 2 liter bottles, then fill the bottles with water. I got water storage containers (again, Walmart lol) different sizes, running just under a dollar for each gallon of capacity. Just some ideas! |
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Thanks, Greg222. Your wisdom is appreciated!
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I am a Farmer with some excess capacity to grow Vegtables for human consumption. If i were to reserve some of my farm to produce crops for members of this fourm, would anybody have an interest? I only produce USDA Organic grown crops. Excess capacity is located in eastern Arkansas, USA. Can grow rice, corn and greenhouse Vegtables. Delivery would be in 3rd qtr of 2009. thanks!
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Kinetic flash lights that uses LED ...and rechargable walkie talkies..and a inverter for your car would be a very important asset that plugs into the cigarette lighter. Even kinetic radios would also make sence having..i have them all. PLus get binoculars optic 1050 ..and night vision googles....a mountain bike ....tent and sleeping bag incase u have to REALLY rough it. And last but not least a pocket utility knife...and a RAMBO knife.
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Don't forget the Pet food! your Dog or Cat is going to be hungry, you will need their fine senses of smell and hearing to warn you of danger.
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silver water is awesome! they say it can even cure malaria!
as for o2 healing properties also very good! you can buy hydrogen peroxide in bulk. does anyone have any other good books? |
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I have been stocking up on supplies for the last couple months.
I have a portable water filter pump that enables the user to drink water from rivers or streams. It's a really popular device that campers and hikers use. The filter is good for 500 gallons. For food I have purchased vegetables and dinners that are freeze dried and stored in #10 cans. I have a year supply for one person of vegetables (corn, sweet peas, and green beans). I have a six-month supply for one person of dinner entrees ranging from spaghetti to seafood chowder. Just add a little water to one serving and a meal is had. All in all my family of four has a supply of food at 3 meals a day to last for at least four to six months, which includes other food in our pantry. We also have a 72-hour emergency kit that is meant for ten people, which we purchased after a big storm hit our area a couple years ago and left the region powerless for several days. For a family of four such as mine, that would be good for a week. This kit has all the basic emergency neccessities such as first aid kit, emergency food rations, emergency water packs, survival blankets, crank radio, crank flashlights, water proof matches, etc., and even the two buckets all of this comes in can be used as emergency porta potty with chemicals. All of these supplies I have purchased at www.thereadystore.com. Great site to check out. Normally, they send out product within a few days, but because of demand it takes 4-6 weeks to get your goods. I ordered my food supplies back in July and in took about 4-5 weeks to get it. But, now we're fairly set if there is a disruption lasting for a few months. The water filter was a top priority for us. We live next to a river so at least we can drink out of it if we have to with the water filter/purifier. All these things above cost about $1000. Other things: We have a dog and just bought a couple extra large bags of his dog food to last probably several months. Dog food didn't occur to me until recently. I also pulled out almost $3000 cash from my savings account to have on hand for emergency in the home in the event that banks and ATMs become inaccessible. I'll be pulling out more cash in the coming days ahead. I am going to be stocking up on gasoline a little. I think I'll to head Schucks and pick up several gas containers and fill them up with gas to store in my garage. I figure I should store at least enough gas to fill up the gas tank a couple times. We will be making a big Costco run to stock up on basic neccessities such as toliet paper, soap, medicines, and all other stuff that we take for granted. This is our prep. I just wanted to share what we're doing. Best of luck to all here. In the coming days we'll need to hold on to the pole. |
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"survival" means different things to different people. If one is used to living a plush lifestyle, survival might mean not being without 2-ply toilet paper and an internet connection. To me it means being able to live on what you have in your pocket under almost any conditions. Hopefully none of us will ever be forced into action so fast that we aren't able to collect a few necessities and such, however, as they say, "be prepared for the worst and hope for the best".
Personally, i keep a very small pack that includes only the most important items to make a survival situation a bit more comfortable -- stuff such as a multi-tool, space blanket, fire starters, cordage, GPS, first-aid, head lamp, etc.. It's a grab-and-go kit (it's actually my everyday hiking pack), should i have the time to grab it. I really don't think things will get that desperate for most of us, but, as they say... |
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If I were twenty something, I'd love to be Cody Lundin
prepared. But as you get older you do slow down. We tend to think in terms of bugging in rather than bugging out. Even with top shelf Danner boots we are not up to a forced trek through the wilderness with nothing but a stick and your wits. What we have done that would increase our chances of survival if we were forced to flee is invest in Jim Phillips TJ's This is the lite version of his arctic p.a.l.s. clothing. Intended to be used like long johns under an external shell they are good down to zero degrees. Where we live this would allow us to sleep without a camp fire and not fear hypothermia. They work when wet which is a big deal in the Pacific Northwest. With the T.J.s and two ponchos you would just about be set for cold weather treking west of the cascades. After that, the sky is the limit. Here is THE LIST 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster March 20, 2003 DEYO NOTE: This list was first assembled by Joseph Almond prior to Y2K. However, it is valid to consider these as "extremely desirable items" in the event of nearly any disaster. Modify as you see fit. On more than one occasion recently, Stan and I witnessed generators virtually evaporate. Ditto for portable toilets. Since it's been at least four years since this list was compiled, prices noted below have likely increased. 1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of thieves; maintenance, etc.) 2. Water Filters/Purifiers 3. Portable Toilets (Increasing in price every two months.) 4. Seasoned Firewood (About $100 per cord; wood takes 6 - 12 mos. to become dried, for home uses.) 5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!) 6. Coleman Fuel (URGENT $2.69-$3.99/gal. Impossible to stockpile too much.) 7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats and Slingshots 8. Hand-Can openers and hand egg beaters, whisks (Life savers!) 9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugars 10. Rice - Beans - Wheat (White rice is now $12.95 - 50# bag. Sam's Club, stock depleted often.) 11. Vegetable oil (for cooking) (Without it food burns/must be boiled, etc.) 12. Charcoal and Lighter fluid (Will become scarce suddenly.) 13. Water containers (Urgent Item to obtain. Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY) 14. Mini Heater head (Propane) (Without this item, propane won't heat a room.) 15. Grain Grinder (Non-electric) 16. Propane Cylinders 17. Michael Hyatt's Y2K Survival Guide (BEST single y2k handbook for sound advice/tips.) 18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.) 19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula/ointments/aspirin, etc 20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry) 21. Cook stoves (Propane, Coleman and Kerosene) 22. Vitamins (Critical, due 10 Y2K-forced daily canned food diets.) 23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item.) 24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products 25. Thermal underwear (Tops and bottoms) 26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets and Wedges (also, honing oil) 27. Aluminum foil Reg. and Heavy. Duty (Great Cooking and Barter item) 28. Gasoline containers (Plastic or Metal) 29. Garbage bags (Impossible to have too many.) 30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, paper towel 31. Milk - Powdered and Condensed (Shake liquid every 3 to 4 months.) 32. Garden seeds (Non-hybrid) (A MUST) 33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST) 34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit: 1(800) 835-3278 35. Tuna Fish (in oil) 36. Fire extinguishers (or.. large box of Baking soda in every room...) 37. First aid kits 38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates) 39. Garlic, spices and vinegar, baking supplies 40. BIG DOGS (and plenty of dog food) 41. Flour, yeast and salt 42. Matches ("Strike Anywhere" preferred. Boxed, wooden matches will go first.) 43. Writing paper/pads/pencils/solar calculators 44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime) 45. Work boots, belts, Levis and durable shirts 46. Flashlights/Light Sticks and torches, "No.76 Dietz" Lanterns 47. Journals, Diaries and Scrapbooks (Jot down ideas, feelings, experiences: Historic times!) 48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels) 49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc 50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient) 51. Fishing supplies/tools 52. Mosquito coils/repellent sprays/creams 53. Duct tape 54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes 55. Candles 56. Laundry detergent (Liquid) 57. Backpacks and Duffle bags 58. Garden tools and supplies 59. Scissors, fabrics and sewing supplies 60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc. 61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite) 62. Canning supplies (Jars/lids/wax) 63. Knives and Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel 64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc. 65. Sleeping bags and blankets/pillows/mats 66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered) 67. Board Games Cards, Dice 68. d-Con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer 69. Mousetraps, Ant traps and cockroach magnets 70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks...) 71. Baby Wipes, oils, waterless and Anti-bacterial soap (saves a lot of water) 72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc. 73. Shaving supplies (razors and creams, talc, after shave) 74. Hand pumps and siphons (for water and for fuels) 75. Soy sauce, vinegar, bouillons/gravy/soup base 76. Reading glasses 77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers) 78. "Survival-in-a-Can" 79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens 80. BSA - New 1998 - Boy Scout Handbook (also, Leader's Catalog) 81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO) 82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky 83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts 84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras) 85. Lumber (all types) 86. Wagons and carts (for transport to and from open Flea markets) 87. Cots and Inflatable Mattresses (for extra guests) 88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc. 89. Lantern Hangers 90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws, nuts and bolts 91. Teas 92. Coffee 93. Cigarettes 94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc.) 95. Paraffin wax 96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc. 97. Chewing gum/candies 98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing) 99. Hats and cotton neckerchiefs 100. Goats/chickens Joseph Almond: http://www.josephprep.com/Provisions/100_items.htm |
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![]() Wow Baggywrinkle, thanks. Last edited by Gale; 09-26-2008 at 02:03 PM. |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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Here are three sources of great information about preparedness:
Taking Baby Steps in Preparedness Storing Non-Food Items 7 Mistakes of Food Storage |
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Thank you for these links...very helpful! |
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ChaliceWell, very much appreciated.
Psychological foods (puddings, jello, candy etc.), noted because I do get these items for kids school lunches. ![]() |
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Anyone think this is a good water filter to get??
http://www.outdoorgb.com/p/Katadyn_Vario_Micro_Filter/ |
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Don't think anyone has mentioned a realy handy survial tool.
The Rabbit snare. It's light weight, you can catch rabbits, fish, birds, squirrels ect. A fanasic hunting tool that cant be underestemated. It's where the name "boobie trap" comes from. Just a thought ![]() Bobcat |
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Hirt's Gardens, OH, on Amazon has amazing heirloom/organic seeds. And the best part is, they ship in about 4 days. They're also on Ebay. They sell Seeds of Change, herbs, trees, vegetables, ceremonial tobacco...anything you can dream of.
Dream up a garden, ya'll! |
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I've found this to be most educational:
MULTISERVICE PROCEDURES FOR SURVIVAL, EVASION, AND RECOVERY |
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371, that's great, I didn't know that was online! And here I was telling everyone to buy it....
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Your list of survival supplies will change depending on your situation. If you will be staying put in a house in the city with a family of four, it is a much different list than if you are solo and on the move in the countryside. I have a good amount of country experience. If the SHTF, then I'm going mobile. So here's what I have in my ready-to-go backpack
WATER PURIFIER Absolutley essential. If you have no water, then you will die. If you drink water in the countryside and ingest a water-bourne parasite, then you will become sick and dehydrated, and then you will die. I carry a MSR Miniworks water filter; 1 litre per minute, filters about 2000 litres before needing a change of filter, and will turn the nastiest dank black polluted puddle water into a crystal-clear beverage. I also carry water purification tablets, the means to boil water, and powdered Gatorade to combat dehydration. FOOD If you're sticking around at home, by all means stock up on canned goods. If you're mobile, make sure it's light and high-energy. Dehydrated fruits and protein bars are my mainstays, plus the ability and means to hunt and forage whenever possible. SHELTER If you're at home, then you've got this covered. If not, a decent shelter can be constructed from a single lightweight tarp and a good piece of cord (rope), which I carry at all times just in case. Make sure that you are off the ground (make a pad with branches, leaves, etc), away from large heat-sucking stones, and out of the wind. CLOTHING Absolutely NO cotton!!! Cotton soaks and holds water, which conducts heat away from the body very rapidly. COTTON KILLS. As backup clothing, I carry a fleece sweater and fleece pants, as well as a heavyweight rain shell and lightweight rain pants (preserve core temperature), both fleece and nylon socks, a fleece hat, rubberized Kevlar work gloves and nylon over-mitts. LIGHTS I have a high-powered LED lamp with a dynamo generator. There's also a backup battery pack. I also use 9-bulb LED flashlights that I buy for $3.00 at a surplus store. They're cheaply made, but the light burns for over 8 hours on 3 x 'AAA' batteries. NAVIGATION A GPS is only as good as its batteries. If you're on the move, it's essential to have map and compass skills. Go take a course. FIRST AID A good first aid kit is essential, regardless of the situation. Make sure that it is concise and that you know how to use its contents. TOOLS Multi-tool, knife, matches, lighters, fishing line and hooks, duct tape, candles, can opener, and a few cigarettes just in case. ![]() Last edited by MacGyverCanada; 10-10-2008 at 11:30 PM. |
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Oral Rehydration Salts, 30% Medicinal grade hydrogen peroxide, and Neoprine gloves. Might not hurt to get some penicillin and stock up now.
And I bet this is one thing the older males have not thought about here. A year or so of blood pressure medication, might need to go to a few doctors. Cause after the year, unless you manage to get rid of the problem you might be dead. Cause there will be no where to get any. Use the oldest stuff first, and just put your new prescription in storage. Last edited by orb; 11-07-2008 at 04:47 AM. |
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Wow. Thanks for all this information! I was going to start a new thread asking how to purify water today - and I got all this and more.
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how many berkey filters are needed |
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Great thread. Can people please provide links if possible too. Thank you.
![]() www.thereadystore.com. this is a good store but they dont ship outside america. Can anybody link to a uk version or something similar that ships to the uk. thank you. Last edited by EYES WIDE OPEN; 01-09-2009 at 12:37 PM. |
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