Of Water and the Spirit

by Malidoma Patrice Some.

Wonderful, terrible and moving story of a young boy born in the West African country of Birkina Faso. He tells of his life in the Dagara village when he was very young, what happened to him when he was abducted and sent to a Jesuit Missionary School, and the trials and initiations he had to face when he returned home.

It is described as a book of rare healing and wisdom, and that description doesn't do it justice. Written from the heart and Malidoma's unique viewpoint this is an amazing true story, and quite simply one of the best books I have ever read.

[Czymra]

Originally Posted by Steve_G

by Malidoma Patrice Some.

Wonderful, terrible and moving story of a young boy born in the West African country of Birkina Faso. He tells of his life in the Dagara village when he was very young, what happened to him when he was abducted and sent to a Jesuit Missionary School, and the trials and initiations he had to face when he returned home.

It is described as a book of rare healing and wisdom, and that description doesn't do it justice. Written from the heart and Malidoma's unique viewpoint this is an amazing true story, and quite simply one of the best books I have ever read.

Link? Source? Anything? Or is this a book title?

[Egg]

No linky? you stinky!

Goodness me - showing some really base level maturity here tonight.

[Carmen]

Steve G this book is one of my favourites! What a great man, a great story. It deserves a thread of its own. This man bridges the indigenous and the civilized (uncivilized) brilliantly. Of Water and the Spirit is the title of the book Czymra.

Cheers

Carmen

Well slap my thighs and call me Horace, I apologise for being so thoughtless!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Water-Spirit...4128973&sr=1-1

"Of Water and the Spirit" by Malidoma Patrice Some.

Can't recommend it highly enough.

[Egg]

OI! HORACE! NO!



Link next time. I thought we were in for a free e book treat.

[Czymra]

Yeah you would have gotten me with another eBook to virtually pile up in my folder for 'read when eternity arrives'. No really, I would have downloaded it.

[Carmen]

Get the gorse out of your pockets, you guys. This book is worth buying, and reading.

Some things are fine to read as e-books, but I feel that writing like this deserves an atmosphere free of whirring hard drives and LCD glare. A big comfy armchair, peace and quiet, preferably a nice fire and something mellow to sip while you let your mind and heart fall into the rhythm of the words as they take you into another world...

That's reading.

[Czymra]

Okay guys, I trust your judgement, it's now on my "to buy when I bother carrying weight around with me" list but since I am trying to get rid of all that can't be carried that will be some time to go. But hey, there are just like 6 books there so this one stands a good chance!
As for reading, I'm fine creeping into my bed and rug up like a cocoon and hold my iPhone in the most awkward position and turn every five minutes. I never understood the principle of sitting. My body isn't made for it.

On a serious note though, thanks for the tip. It sounds well interesting and seems to go much deeper than the usual ice crystal photography.

[Carmen]

What was interesting to me in this book Steve G, (well everything was interesting) was the initiation of the young men. As I understand it, in ancient times in Egypt, for instance there were mystery schools where students were initiated into higher learning. Most indigenous tribes had initiations also. This process is quite lacking in our modern culture, and we are the poorer for it.

Love and Light

Carmen

Originally Posted by Carmen

What was interesting to me in this book Steve G, (well everything was interesting) was the initiation of the young men. As I understand it, in ancient times in Egypt, for instance there were mystery schools where students were initiated into higher learning. Most indigenous tribes had initiations also. This process is quite lacking in our modern culture, and we are the poorer for it.

Love and Light

Carmen

Very much so- initiation rituals are hugely important to the human psyche. In our society the closest we have is getting absolutely wasted, because when you drink you're a man. That's how cut off we have become.

Originally Posted by Kathleen

What a lovely description of my favorite hobby.... I just love a real book....the feel, the smell, the heft, the cozy environment....you are so right about e-books.... They do not do literature justice.

And I will check your book out. Thank you! Hoping my library has a copy.

Addendum: My library has a copy and I see he has written two other books as well.

Ritual : power, healing, and community : the African teachings of the Dagar, 1997

The Healing Wisdom of Africa : finding life purpose through nature, ritual, and community, 1998

The other two are on my wanted list

[Carmen]

A thought for you Steve G and the others interested in this thread;

Given the violent indoctrination/introduction to the white man's society, would that explain the behavior of some of the leaders past and present of certain countries in Africa. They"d lost any training/connection to their spiritual earth wisdom, and were indoctrinated violently into the white mans society. Maybe I'm being naieve here, cos obviously many tribes in Africa were violent also, but many of them were not . I'd like your opinion on this thought. It was what came to me on reading the book.

Cheers

Carmen

Originally Posted by Carmen

A thought for you Steve G and the others interested in this thread;

Given the violent indoctrination/introduction to the white man's society, would that explain the behavior of some of the leaders past and present of certain countries in Africa. They"d lost any training/connection to their spiritual earth wisdom, and were indoctrinated violently into the white mans society. Maybe I'm being naieve here, cos obviously many tribes in Africa were violent also, but many of them were not . I'd like your opinion on this thought. It was what came to me on reading the book.

Cheers

Carmen

Aaaah.... yes and no. Personally I believe it all comes back to the Illuminati bloodlines. The western nations went in to plunder the physical natural resources, and the missionaries went in to destroy the spiritual natural resources (though I don't think they believed that's what they were doing, not the missionaries themselves), but ultimately those actions come back to the elite- they've created the religious, political, social and financial structures that carried out these acts.

The same thing happened to Britain when the Romans came in and all but destroyed the druids in the name of their own 'gods'. What happened in Africa and all over the world was the Illuminati bloodlines came in and destroyed the real spiritual identity of those they conquered so they could be made into more parts of an ever expanding machine under their control.

I forget who it was that mentioned it in the PC interviews but someone said the thing they fear the most is us remembering who and what we truly are. They were 100% correct. That's why arguments we have now such as "it's Isreal's fault" or "it's America's fault" or "it's the muslims' fault" or "it's the bankers' fault" only serve the Illuminati because they divide us. The Zionists or the Muslims or whoever are only the tools being used at the time, not the true cause of anything. While we're fighting each other in whatever form we aren't looking behind the throne for the real cause of our problems: The Illuminati bloodlines and, more importantly, the forces hiding behind them.

Once humanity realises that we have a fighting chance to really change things. Until then they have us chasing our own tails.

[Delphi]

I never did read any of his books but I was once in the same cafe as Malidoma Some and he is the most quietly, unobtrusively powerful person i have ever seen. i have (and recommend) his wife's book The Spirit of Intimacy.
(Author: Sobonfu E. Some, published 1999.ISBN: 0 7171 2880 6) It describes a great way to let go of the aggravations that couples inevitably have to deal with and initiation rites and much more besides.

While of the subject of the wisdom of indigenous peoples, there's a half hour talk by Drunvalo Melchizidek
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=10937
well worth the wtach especially when feeling overwhelmed.

love to all

Brian O'Leary is also amazing to meet as well.

[Carmen]

Thanks for that Steve G . I take your point. We are now in the process of undermining the illuminati plan, and reconnecting to our spiritual Selves, and helping others to do likewise

Love and Light

Carmen