I'm so confused about 2012 - Page 3

Carol · 02-20-2009, 04:00 AM

ahh orthadoxymoron.. life is good. After years of riding the paranoia roller coaster it's always good to take a break or just get off for good. Most of the stuff happening we have no control over other then to pray for the best outcome for all concerned.

Perhaps the true gift of consciousness is to be totally present in the moment.. with no worries as to what may be. This means to totally enjoy the gift of the moment, be it senses, smell, beauty, music.. it is focusing on manifesting reality which is harmonious and nuturing.

I would wish for you that you fill those empty moments up with beauty and be at peace.

And if you have taken that inner step of faith.. you already know our consciousness is converging... the internet is just a baby step.. beyond the machanical reality of this vast resource is the spirit, the collective consciousness becoming first; aware, second; connected and third; interfacing with one another.. evolving into telepathic communion as in our great collective global nexus meditaton project. How delightful.

orthodoxymoron · 02-20-2009, 05:18 AM

Being present in the moment is intimately connected with response-ability. If one is transfixed by what the bad-guys did in the past...or what the bad-guys are planning for the future...the ability to respond responsibly to present stimuli...is greatly diminished. Perhaps it is wise to focus on the good, and doing good...and to keep the bad, and the bad-guys in one's peripheral vision. If one does not keep their eyes on the road...they will go into the ditch. And then there is the problem of the paralysis of analysis!

02-23-2009, 10:32 PM

Orthodoxymoron wrote:
"The concept of saving one's self...while the others fry...and being ok with it...is very dangerous and even demonic. Escaping responsibility via The Second Coming of Christ, The Rapture, Transformation into 4th and 5th Density, Being Part of a World Cleansed of Undesirables, etc...while the others fry...and being ok with it...is very dangerous and even demonic. Being part of an elite group or elite belief system...or achieving high levels of spirituality...and making it...while the others fry...and being ok with it...is very dangerous and even demonic. I've been there and done that...and sometimes I still do that. It's just more master-race bs. I sometimes wonder if the 'bad-guys', whoever the heck they are...try to get us to think this way. You know...divide and conquer. I believe in standards, aspirations, rewarding responsibility, etc. But cutting fellow human beings lose...moving on...and being ok with it...is just wrong in my book. 2012 may fit into this sort of thinking. Could it be a ligitimate date which is being hijacked by lots of different agendas?

VISUALIZE US SAVING OUR WORLD...WITH ALL OF US MAKING IT. VISUALIZE THE TRANSFORMATION OF THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE INTO 4TH AND 5TH DENSITY."

I wished for all eyes here to read this again.. as it is basic-ally connected, brilliantly lit exposure! And I appreciate your 2-18 post as well..... take a break, slow down... actually look & listen to the offerings such as Jack's sharings (thank you)!

"the ability to respond responsibly"..<< yep, it's the NOW moment of BEING... it's always NOW < the taste of eternity!

Czymra · 02-17-2009, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carol

I've sensed that the timeline shifted again a day to two ago.

In addition, according to an inside contact there is a space war in-progress going on over our heads right now where earth status is Red Emergency.

Ed Grimsly claims this has been going on but last night's C2C guest, Peter Davenport said there was some type of combat was going on between two space crafts

I wouldn't be surprised. The days after the full moon were weird and the last couple of days wasn't different either. Luckily it seems calmer now.

orthodoxymoron · 02-17-2009, 09:16 PM

The concept of saving one's self...while the others fry...and being ok with it...is very dangerous and even demonic. Escaping responsibility via The Second Coming of Christ, The Rapture, Transformation into 4th and 5th Density, Being Part of a World Cleansed of Undesirables, etc...while the others fry...and being ok with it...is very dangerous and even demonic. Being part of an elite group or elite belief system...or achieving high levels of spirituality...and making it...while the others fry...and being ok with it...is very dangerous and even demonic. I've been there and done that...and sometimes I still do that. It's just more master-race bs. I sometimes wonder if the 'bad-guys', whoever the heck they are...try to get us to think this way. You know...divide and conquer. I believe in standards, aspirations, rewarding responsibility, etc. But cutting fellow human beings lose...moving on...and being ok with it...is just wrong in my book. 2012 may fit into this sort of thinking. Could it be a ligitimate date which is being hijacked by lots of different agendas?

VISUALIZE US SAVING OUR WORLD...WITH ALL OF US MAKING IT. VISUALIZE THE TRANSFORMATION OF THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE INTO 4TH AND 5TH DENSITY.

Czymra · 02-17-2009, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

The concept of saving one's self...while the others fry...and being ok with it...is very dangerous and even demonic. Escaping responsibility via The Second Coming of Christ, The Rapture, Transformation into 4th and 5th Density, Being Part of a World Cleansed of Undesirables, etc...while the others fry...and being ok with it...is very dangerous and even demonic. Being part of an elite group or elite belief system...or achieving high levels of spirituality...and making it...while the others fry...and being ok with it...is very dangerous and even demonic.

VISUALIZE US SAVING OUR WORLD...WITH ALL OF US MAKING IT. VISUALIZE THE TRANSFORMATION OF THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE INTO 4TH AND 5TH DENSITY.

Good point! Best point!

futureyes · 01-31-2009, 07:23 AM

carol ...

i feel where you're coming from ... choices, choices, choices ...

if you are ready to ascend ... you will ascend ... you will know when you know ... your knowing will be absolute ...

you will know you are ready because you will also know and trust your family will be just fine ... this too will be a solid knowing within you ...

moving forward or remaining where we are must come from freedom of choice ... an individual choice ... one to be respected by all ...

we just have to allow for our truth ... then choose accordingly ...

if moving forward resonates within us to do so ... we'll move forward without hesitation ... without concerns ... with trust ...

for me carol these times now are similar to us being on our death beds and being gifted a second chance, but that we have some time to reflect and change course to our outcome should that feel true and right to do so ...

rather than laying there chanting shoulda, coulda, woulda ... we can get up off our beds and live our lives in vitality and wholeness in this moment ... clean up our baggage ... be the best we can humanly be so that if we had to go back to our beds now... we would effortlessly decide if we go or if we stay ...

we can now decide from a place of neutral ... a place of no regrets ... a place that we know all will be fine if we choose to move forward ...

whatever we choose will be true for us because it won't hinge on anything or anyone else ... even fresh baked bread

i just know that no one will move beyond if it does not completely and wholly resonate within them ... it won't be possible ...

live life as best you know how in this moment ... be the best you can be ... for then your choice will come effortlessly ...

for me personally ... as much as i like fresh baked bread ... the fulfillment i experience in higher dimensions i will choose hands down over the bread ...

i have never experienced greater fulfillment of being ... nothing in this world, for me, comes close ...

so i guess i already know my choice ...

maybe just a slice before i go ...

Northern Boy · 02-06-2009, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by futureyes

carol ...

i feel where you're coming from ... choices, choices, choices ...

if you are ready to ascend ... you will ascend ... you will know when you know ... your knowing will be absolute ...

you will know you are ready because you will also know and trust your family will be just fine ... this too will be a solid knowing within you ...

moving forward or remaining where we are must come from freedom of choice ... an individual choice ... one to be respected by all ...

we just have to allow for our truth ... then choose accordingly ...

if moving forward resonates within us to do so ... we'll move forward without hesitation ... without concerns ... with trust ...

for me carol these times now are similar to us being on our death beds and being gifted a second chance, but that we have some time to reflect and change course to our outcome should that feel true and right to do so ...

rather than laying there chanting shoulda, coulda, woulda ... we can get up off our beds and live our lives in vitality and wholeness in this moment ... clean up our baggage ... be the best we can humanly be so that if we had to go back to our beds now... we would effortlessly decide if we go or if we stay ...

we can now decide from a place of neutral ... a place of no regrets ... a place that we know all will be fine if we choose to move forward ...

whatever we choose will be true for us because it won't hinge on anything or anyone else ... even fresh baked bread

i just know that no one will move beyond if it does not completely and wholly resonate within them ... it won't be possible ...

live life as best you know how in this moment ... be the best you can be ... for then your choice will come effortlessly ...

for me personally ... as much as i like fresh baked bread ... the fulfillment i experience in higher dimensions i will choose hands down over the bread ...

i have never experienced greater fulfillment of being ... nothing in this world, for me, comes close ...

so i guess i already know my choice ...

maybe just a slice before i go ...

brilliant choice of words it was if you were reading my mind

futureyes · 02-07-2009, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Boy

brilliant choice of words it was if you were reading my mind

northern boy ...

this journey is ever evolving i find ... accelerated now more than ever ...
funny you wrote this about reading of another's mind ...

i am very much coming to understand that as we shift out of illusion and into true reality ... this evolution we experience individually is also our collective evolution unfolding ...

it isn't so much reading another's mind but i feel that we are profoundly beginning to think and feel the same ...

we interpret this as reading another's mind but really ... we are clearly arriving at our own truth which is all truth ... as one ...

i only write about it because i have been experiencing this to a very large degree now ... thinking and feeling what others do ... aligning to other's truth ... realizing their truth is MY truth as well ...

and what is becoming oh so profound is FEELING oneness with others ... with the energy of this world in general ...

realizing and experiencing this my self ... it is so extraordinary ... that separation as i once knew it ... is being erased from within me ... fading it is ...

the world used to feel like a very large place just a short while ago ...

and now ... now as the feeling of oneness i experience is expanding greatly ... the world feels so much smaller ... more together ... more whole ...

i feel the world to be a part of me and i completely in tune with it ...

the separation is fading ... we are aligning with one another's truth ... and suddenly i am feeling we are reading each other's minds ...

really what i believe is occuring ... is our hearts are journeying closer to each other ... our minds are following ... realizing what is ... what has always been ...

this is so very cool ... the momentum has very much picked up ... extraordinary and profound things will begin to unfold for this world ... for those that feel to move forward ...

anyway ... way off topic here i think ...

just felt to insert this because i can feel "like-minded" has certainly been stepped up a notch ...

Carol · 02-08-2009, 04:49 PM

Well I finally listened to the Clifford Stone interview and according to him and ET, other then the galactic wave (one would hope of spiritual enlightenment), 2012 is a non-event.

So... I've decided to chuck all the doom and gloom scenarios and focus of aquaponics.. after all, one does have to eat, doesn't one?

777 The Great Work · 01-31-2009, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C77

The first thing that came into my mind when I read your post Carol was this...

Your attachments to this world will keep you in the cycle of birth and rebirth.
ONLY you can decide to let go of all your attachments...ultimately we come into this world naked and not owning a thing, and when we pass on, we take nothing material with us.
I guess the one thing I want you to know is that...you are truly loved and respected.

Just a little humor Carol i stocked it with bread and the best honey. We love You

rhythm · 01-31-2009, 09:14 AM

Fab thread
i can see myself
riseing above it all .
not quite ready to go
yet ,still one slice
short of a loaf ! .
All you need is
bread , bread bread is all
you need ,see i told yer
im barking .
happy baking.

piers2210 · 01-31-2009, 09:50 AM

Lovely thread...great thoughts.

As I said on another thread once, a good glass of Pinot Noir is all you need...its been described as "sex in a glass", so you get everything you want, right there.....

Czymra · 01-31-2009, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piers2210

Lovely thread...great thoughts.

As I said on another thread once, a good glass of Pinot Noir is all you need...its been described as "sex in a glass", so you get everything you want, right there.....

Now I do expect you to bring that to Avebury.... what... no alcohol before meditation. Man....

piers2210 · 01-31-2009, 10:04 AM

Hey Carol, by the way, if you read Carl Johan Calleman's "The Mayan Calendar and the Transformation of Consciousness", you will have missed the boat if you wait till 2012....it apparently sails with all its enlightened souls on 28th October 2011......

Gather up the garden furniture now!!

Atb, Piers

piers2210 · 01-31-2009, 10:14 AM

Czymra, would a case of Chateau de Puligny-Montrachet do ok? A nice medium priced pinot which should go well with the music. Ok, i'm joking...there's a great pub nearby though. Oops. Just keeping a light tone to the serious business of 2012. We've got to have fun still.

P.

AussieG · 01-31-2009, 01:42 PM

2012 will come and go just as we come and go.
What is important is what have we experienced for that is all there is. If looks were important we would all be beautiful, if money was important we would all be rich, if death was an issue we wouldn't die. To evolve to an enlightened being we need to answer any question to be able to do that we must have experienced that situation, honey is just honey until you have tasted it.

We have a conscious that gently and quietly collects our experiences this is the only real part of us and it is the conscious that goes on. So there is no good or bad it is just experience. If there is no good or bad then there can be no real fear.
As for wanting to stay and care for loved ones, giving is the greatest experience (for it was the first experience of all), provided it doesn't restrict the gaining of their experiences, we are all here to learn.

Our conscious is higher connected, follow its guidance and through intuition come 2012 you will know what to do, but for now as mother Teresa said "find someone who is alone and let them know that there not". The real gift is giving its self.

Czymra · 01-31-2009, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piers2210

Czymra, would a case of Chateau de Puligny-Montrachet do ok? A nice medium priced pinot which should go well with the music. Ok, i'm joking...there's a great pub nearby though. Oops. Just keeping a light tone to the serious business of 2012. We've got to have fun still.

P.

Might you be of French origin?

I'm curious about the Ave pub. The B&B I'll stay at looks peculiar already.

As for staying or going, I'm sure when the time strikes we will know. I wouldn't worry there. Also, when you are of higher dimension, who says you can't visit those left behind?

Dantheman62 · 01-31-2009, 04:30 PM

If something happens, it happens, if not then so be it. I myself like it here and really am not ready to move on to the next density. I've got a long ways to go spiritually and if that means I stay here and do it over and over again, so be it. I really don't even want to go to the telepathic level, I mean how do you tell a joke telepathically?, you can't, because everyone would already know the punch line! LOL!

rhythm · 01-31-2009, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

If something happens, it happens, if not then so be it. I myself like it here and really am not ready to move on to the next density. I've got a long ways to go spiritually and if that means I stay here and do it over and over again, so be it. I really don't even want to go to the telepathic level, I mean how do you tell a joke telepathically?, you can't, because everyone would already know the punch line! LOL!

I BET YOU WOULD REALY BE RELIEVED
THINK ABOUT IT DAN NO MORE BIRD
POO , NO MORE LOUNGE , hmmm ,
you could be right , but my telepathic
power tell me ,er, i keep that to myself
i will pm you later i got a better punch line
for yer

jazzgad · 01-31-2009, 05:39 PM

I also loved good food good wine ,planing cards with friends and family
solitude in nature ,music and good books and could go on
enjoying those passions probably not ready to let it go of them even
when 100 years old .but then something happened during one meditation
I experienced being Sun radiating ,outpouring tremendous amounts of love
and light i come back sobbing and crying and now can not wait till this is over .

in the mean time praing every day that humanity wake up from the dream
so those on higher dimensions don't have to shake us up to hard
I wish gentle wake up call would suffice .

futureyes · 01-31-2009, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazzgad

I also loved good food good wine ,planing cards with friends and family
solitude in nature ,music and good books and could go on
enjoying those passions probably not ready to let it go of them even
when 100 years old .but then something happened during one meditation
I experienced being Sun radiating ,outpouring tremendous amounts of love
and light i come back sobbing and crying and now can not wait till this is over .

in the mean time praing every day that humanity wake up from the dream
so those on higher dimensions don't have to shake us up to hard
I wish gentle wake up call would suffice .

once we have had a taste of what truly is real ... nothing of what is illusion even comes close ...

a gentle day to everyone ...

Dantheman62 · 01-31-2009, 06:09 PM

We need to get rid of three things for this planet to evolve peacefully. These three things are money, religion, and politics. Until we become independent of money, believe in ourselves as a whole, as one, and be one with nature, and become self governing this planet will never evolve to the next level.

1. Money means materialistic things, which should be last on the list, and money brings wars due to greed and opportunity.

2.Religion has killed more people than all the wars put together and is a brainwashing institution.

3. Politics turns us into sheep and follow those who are in charge, when no group should be in charge, we should be in charge of ourselves and be responsible for ourselves and our actions which we aren't ready to do yet because our level of spirituality is not there yet, not to mention how many wars are due to political BS.

jazzgad · 01-31-2009, 06:35 PM

what you resist persist
we can not get rid of anything ,the state of this planet reflects
our state of collective consciousness with one belief playing major
role " that we are separate from each other and universe "
only if we believe that to be true the masses can be controlled
economically and consequently politically by elites ,and only if elites
believe the same they can conceive and execute those plans of population control (wars famine disses ) not knowing they are doing it to themself
inspired by higher densities STS .

so once the wisdom that we are One is accepted by all everythig else
(economical exploitation ,violence ) will disappear like bad dream
which it is .

02-01-2009, 08:12 AM

Hi Carol - IMO, this life is a gift. It would be rude to let it go by, without enjoying food, play, love, happiness, creation - so yes! beauty & music - while being wary in the grey zone; 2012's too far away for me!

By the way, I know what you mean about the house. You should have seen mine when I was in the throes of Avalonia/basement flood a while back. Sheer madness, a descent to disorder that I have never before witnessed (same for the kids, pets). A youngster visited, one half yrs, and was paralyzed at the front door with thousands of unsafe options (whew!!!) - absolute immobility. After a few moments, he tipped backwards with the state of affairs.... (whew again)... I actually wondered why his mom was frantically picking up for a bit, before I got it - only because she told me (I asked why, oops), but his paralysis/ gave her the extra minutes. Luckily, she loves me.

(in my oblivion)

02-20-2009, 04:00 AM	#1
Carol Project Avalon Hero Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Big Island, Hawaii Posts: 2,008	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 ahh orthadoxymoron.. life is good. After years of riding the paranoia roller coaster it's always good to take a break or just get off for good. Most of the stuff happening we have no control over other then to pray for the best outcome for all concerned. Perhaps the true gift of consciousness is to be totally present in the moment.. with no worries as to what may be. This means to totally enjoy the gift of the moment, be it senses, smell, beauty, music.. it is focusing on manifesting reality which is harmonious and nuturing. I would wish for you that you fill those empty moments up with beauty and be at peace. And if you have taken that inner step of faith.. you already know our consciousness is converging... the internet is just a baby step.. beyond the machanical reality of this vast resource is the spirit, the collective consciousness becoming first; aware, second; connected and third; interfacing with one another.. evolving into telepathic communion as in our great collective global nexus meditaton project. How delightful. __________________ Aloha, thank you, do jeh, toda, arigato, merci, grazie, salamat po, gracias, tack, sukria, danke schoen, kiitos, dank u, mahalo nui loa Images to nourish the spirit: http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...&showtopic=198 Last edited by Carol; 02-20-2009 at 04:07 AM.

02-20-2009, 05:18 AM	#2
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 Being present in the moment is intimately connected with response-ability. If one is transfixed by what the bad-guys did in the past...or what the bad-guys are planning for the future...the ability to respond responsibly to present stimuli...is greatly diminished. Perhaps it is wise to focus on the good, and doing good...and to keep the bad, and the bad-guys in one's peripheral vision. If one does not keep their eyes on the road...they will go into the ditch. And then there is the problem of the paralysis of analysis!

02-23-2009, 10:32 PM	#3
EpiphaMe Guest Posts: n/a	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 Orthodoxymoron wrote: "The concept of saving one's self...while the others fry...and being ok with it...is very dangerous and even demonic. Escaping responsibility via The Second Coming of Christ, The Rapture, Transformation into 4th and 5th Density, Being Part of a World Cleansed of Undesirables, etc...while the others fry...and being ok with it...is very dangerous and even demonic. Being part of an elite group or elite belief system...or achieving high levels of spirituality...and making it...while the others fry...and being ok with it...is very dangerous and even demonic. I've been there and done that...and sometimes I still do that. It's just more master-race bs. I sometimes wonder if the 'bad-guys', whoever the heck they are...try to get us to think this way. You know...divide and conquer. I believe in standards, aspirations, rewarding responsibility, etc. But cutting fellow human beings lose...moving on...and being ok with it...is just wrong in my book. 2012 may fit into this sort of thinking. Could it be a ligitimate date which is being hijacked by lots of different agendas? VISUALIZE US SAVING OUR WORLD...WITH ALL OF US MAKING IT. VISUALIZE THE TRANSFORMATION OF THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE INTO 4TH AND 5TH DENSITY." I wished for all eyes here to read this again.. as it is basic-ally connected, brilliantly lit exposure! And I appreciate your 2-18 post as well..... take a break, slow down... actually look & listen to the offerings such as Jack's sharings (thank you)! "the ability to respond responsibly"..<< yep, it's the NOW moment of BEING... it's always NOW < the taste of eternity!

02-17-2009, 09:16 PM	#5
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 The concept of saving one's self...while the others fry...and being ok with it...is very dangerous and even demonic. Escaping responsibility via The Second Coming of Christ, The Rapture, Transformation into 4th and 5th Density, Being Part of a World Cleansed of Undesirables, etc...while the others fry...and being ok with it...is very dangerous and even demonic. Being part of an elite group or elite belief system...or achieving high levels of spirituality...and making it...while the others fry...and being ok with it...is very dangerous and even demonic. I've been there and done that...and sometimes I still do that. It's just more master-race bs. I sometimes wonder if the 'bad-guys', whoever the heck they are...try to get us to think this way. You know...divide and conquer. I believe in standards, aspirations, rewarding responsibility, etc. But cutting fellow human beings lose...moving on...and being ok with it...is just wrong in my book. 2012 may fit into this sort of thinking. Could it be a ligitimate date which is being hijacked by lots of different agendas? VISUALIZE US SAVING OUR WORLD...WITH ALL OF US MAKING IT. VISUALIZE THE TRANSFORMATION OF THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE INTO 4TH AND 5TH DENSITY. Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 02-18-2009 at 02:12 AM.

01-31-2009, 07:23 AM	#7
futureyes Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: heart central Posts: 798	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 carol ... i feel where you're coming from ... choices, choices, choices ... if you are ready to ascend ... you will ascend ... you will know when you know ... your knowing will be absolute ... you will know you are ready because you will also know and trust your family will be just fine ... this too will be a solid knowing within you ... moving forward or remaining where we are must come from freedom of choice ... an individual choice ... one to be respected by all ... we just have to allow for our truth ... then choose accordingly ... if moving forward resonates within us to do so ... we'll move forward without hesitation ... without concerns ... with trust ... for me carol these times now are similar to us being on our death beds and being gifted a second chance, but that we have some time to reflect and change course to our outcome should that feel true and right to do so ... rather than laying there chanting shoulda, coulda, woulda ... we can get up off our beds and live our lives in vitality and wholeness in this moment ... clean up our baggage ... be the best we can humanly be so that if we had to go back to our beds now... we would effortlessly decide if we go or if we stay ... we can now decide from a place of neutral ... a place of no regrets ... a place that we know all will be fine if we choose to move forward ... whatever we choose will be true for us because it won't hinge on anything or anyone else ... even fresh baked bread i just know that no one will move beyond if it does not completely and wholly resonate within them ... it won't be possible ... live life as best you know how in this moment ... be the best you can be ... for then your choice will come effortlessly ... for me personally ... as much as i like fresh baked bread ... the fulfillment i experience in higher dimensions i will choose hands down over the bread ... i have never experienced greater fulfillment of being ... nothing in this world, for me, comes close ... so i guess i already know my choice ... maybe just a slice before i go ...

02-08-2009, 04:49 PM	#10
Carol Project Avalon Hero Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Big Island, Hawaii Posts: 2,008	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 Well I finally listened to the Clifford Stone interview and according to him and ET, other then the galactic wave (one would hope of spiritual enlightenment), 2012 is a non-event. So... I've decided to chuck all the doom and gloom scenarios and focus of aquaponics.. after all, one does have to eat, doesn't one? __________________ Aloha, thank you, do jeh, toda, arigato, merci, grazie, salamat po, gracias, tack, sukria, danke schoen, kiitos, dank u, mahalo nui loa Images to nourish the spirit: http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...&showtopic=198

01-31-2009, 09:14 AM	#12
rhythm Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: devon england Posts: 1,905	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 Fab thread i can see myself riseing above it all . not quite ready to go yet ,still one slice short of a loaf ! . All you need is bread , bread bread is all you need ,see i told yer im barking . happy baking.

01-31-2009, 09:50 AM	#13
piers2210 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 403	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 Lovely thread...great thoughts. As I said on another thread once, a good glass of Pinot Noir is all you need...its been described as "sex in a glass", so you get everything you want, right there.....

01-31-2009, 10:04 AM	#15
piers2210 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 403	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 Hey Carol, by the way, if you read Carl Johan Calleman's "The Mayan Calendar and the Transformation of Consciousness", you will have missed the boat if you wait till 2012....it apparently sails with all its enlightened souls on 28th October 2011...... Gather up the garden furniture now!! Atb, Piers

01-31-2009, 10:14 AM	#16
piers2210 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 403	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 Czymra, would a case of Chateau de Puligny-Montrachet do ok? A nice medium priced pinot which should go well with the music. Ok, i'm joking...there's a great pub nearby though. Oops. Just keeping a light tone to the serious business of 2012. We've got to have fun still. P.

01-31-2009, 01:42 PM	#17
AussieG Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 187	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 2012 will come and go just as we come and go. What is important is what have we experienced for that is all there is. If looks were important we would all be beautiful, if money was important we would all be rich, if death was an issue we wouldn't die. To evolve to an enlightened being we need to answer any question to be able to do that we must have experienced that situation, honey is just honey until you have tasted it. We have a conscious that gently and quietly collects our experiences this is the only real part of us and it is the conscious that goes on. So there is no good or bad it is just experience. If there is no good or bad then there can be no real fear. As for wanting to stay and care for loved ones, giving is the greatest experience (for it was the first experience of all), provided it doesn't restrict the gaining of their experiences, we are all here to learn. Our conscious is higher connected, follow its guidance and through intuition come 2012 you will know what to do, but for now as mother Teresa said "find someone who is alone and let them know that there not". The real gift is giving its self.

01-31-2009, 04:30 PM	#19
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 If something happens, it happens, if not then so be it. I myself like it here and really am not ready to move on to the next density. I've got a long ways to go spiritually and if that means I stay here and do it over and over again, so be it. I really don't even want to go to the telepathic level, I mean how do you tell a joke telepathically?, you can't, because everyone would already know the punch line! LOL!

01-31-2009, 05:39 PM	#21
jazzgad Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 119	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 I also loved good food good wine ,planing cards with friends and family solitude in nature ,music and good books and could go on enjoying those passions probably not ready to let it go of them even when 100 years old .but then something happened during one meditation I experienced being Sun radiating ,outpouring tremendous amounts of love and light i come back sobbing and crying and now can not wait till this is over . in the mean time praing every day that humanity wake up from the dream so those on higher dimensions don't have to shake us up to hard I wish gentle wake up call would suffice .

01-31-2009, 06:09 PM	#23
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 We need to get rid of three things for this planet to evolve peacefully. These three things are money, religion, and politics. Until we become independent of money, believe in ourselves as a whole, as one, and be one with nature, and become self governing this planet will never evolve to the next level. 1. Money means materialistic things, which should be last on the list, and money brings wars due to greed and opportunity. 2.Religion has killed more people than all the wars put together and is a brainwashing institution. 3. Politics turns us into sheep and follow those who are in charge, when no group should be in charge, we should be in charge of ourselves and be responsible for ourselves and our actions which we aren't ready to do yet because our level of spirituality is not there yet, not to mention how many wars are due to political BS.

01-31-2009, 06:35 PM	#24
jazzgad Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 119	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 what you resist persist we can not get rid of anything ,the state of this planet reflects our state of collective consciousness with one belief playing major role " that we are separate from each other and universe " only if we believe that to be true the masses can be controlled economically and consequently politically by elites ,and only if elites believe the same they can conceive and execute those plans of population control (wars famine disses ) not knowing they are doing it to themself inspired by higher densities STS . so once the wisdom that we are One is accepted by all everythig else (economical exploitation ,violence ) will disappear like bad dream which it is .

02-01-2009, 08:12 AM	#25
no caste Guest Posts: n/a	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 Hi Carol - IMO, this life is a gift. It would be rude to let it go by, without enjoying food, play, love, happiness, creation - so yes! beauty & music - while being wary in the grey zone; 2012's too far away for me! By the way, I know what you mean about the house. You should have seen mine when I was in the throes of Avalonia/basement flood a while back. Sheer madness, a descent to disorder that I have never before witnessed (same for the kids, pets). A youngster visited, one half yrs, and was paralyzed at the front door with thousands of unsafe options (whew!!!) - absolute immobility. After a few moments, he tipped backwards with the state of affairs.... (whew again)... I actually wondered why his mom was frantically picking up for a bit, before I got it - only because she told me (I asked why, oops), but his paralysis/ gave her the extra minutes. Luckily, she loves me. (in my oblivion)