GOP Senators Voice Opposition To Auto Bailout

BROOK · 12-13-2008, 03:39 AM

Axion I agree with you
Read this from another post I made I believe it says it all about what the consumer wants, and I agree, I was against the bail out, but there is too much at stake here

http://www.pistonheads.com/Gassing/t...20in%20America

BROOK · 12-13-2008, 04:15 AM

I'm sorry, but I have to ask all the American forum users here... when your driving on the freeways or country roads, and all you see are BIG suv's and trucks....Do you think someone held a gun to their heads and said "buy it or die"

The demand for BIG vehicles in this country was so great in the last ten yeas we had a hard time with supply. This has been the only year that sales have suffered for Ford or Chevy, or Dodge for that matter where the BIG vehicle was suffering sales.. But let me tell you Toyota is also suffering and so is Honda.

We are all suffering the economy crisis. I work for the big three and am proud to say so. I will never drive anything but American made.
When you say We never listened to the consumer, well tell me why Chevy was the number one selling make in the country...because the consumer had a gun to their head.... Get serious. The problem does not lie with the company, it lies with the Wall Street Thieves.

BROOK · 12-13-2008, 07:39 AM

Liquidswordz

Creative.... how about the new 09 Ford Fusion hybrid at 39 mpg that beats the
Camry hybrid..or the 33mpg Malibu that beats the Accord

are you aware that GM outsold Toyota by 1.2 million in the us or that GM was the largest selling maker worldwide beating Toyota by 3000 vehicles
That Ford outsold Honda by 850,000 or Nissan by 1.2 million...Too many here seem to still be listening to Big media with their great agenda to dissolve this country and create a NEW WORLD ORDER

The Toyota store across the street from my store just laid off 85 people from the store in all departments... The Honda store down the street is off over half their sales just like our Chevy and Ford store here... And all the vendors who support our store are suffering... This is by no means just about the big three.

12-13-2008, 11:06 AM

This opposition isn't about concern for taxpayer dollars. Dig a little deeper, the Republicans are punishing Detroit for backing Obama, period. An interesting tidbit, Republican party members were sent an "Action Alert" to break the unions, it's always what this opposition has been about.

I don't agree with the way these automakers run the companies, but face it the workers will take the fall as usual. They had no problem backing the banking industry. Make no mistake, someone will bail out Detroit and then all the profits will go out of country and jobs will still be cut.

BROOK · 12-13-2008, 03:21 PM

I appreciate that. The unions have always been democrat run. So why would Bush, a Republican, be planning to override congress and give the assistance?
It's a mystery to me, I just know I have lost over half my income, and the possibility of not being able to pay my overinflated home mortgage is all to close to happening. Keep in mind The other auto makers are down as well. They may stay a float for a while longer, but every one is being affected. This is an economic collapse and all the bail out money will only prolong what is going to happen anyway.

The unions drastically affect the COST of making vehicles, so the other European manufactures have more profit and may sustain longer, but make no mistake their having their share of problems too. Hence of course the big three will have to make more concessions with regards to unions, and the cost of doing business. I don't belong to a union in my line of work, but believe this, the effect is everywhere.
The cost to the taxpayer will be health care, unemployment from the pension funds demise, and job cut backs

Over 20 small privately owned dealers in California alone have closed their doors. They could not survive the last year. This all happened before September and the major announcement of economy collapse. This has been coming for some time now. It's just coming to light now...to the mainstream public. This is just a show for the ptb to eventually announce the need for a nwo, and restructure of all corporate business, etc etc etc

Lets all remember...the paper they write these loans on the MONEY is worthless, and when the real cirses hits, the bailout will mean NOTHING... This is the real issue

12-13-2008, 03:39 AM	#1
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: GOP Senators Voice Opposition To Auto Bailout Axion I agree with you Read this from another post I made I believe it says it all about what the consumer wants, and I agree, I was against the bail out, but there is too much at stake here http://www.pistonheads.com/Gassing/t...20in%20America

12-13-2008, 04:15 AM	#2
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: GOP Senators Voice Opposition To Auto Bailout I'm sorry, but I have to ask all the American forum users here... when your driving on the freeways or country roads, and all you see are BIG suv's and trucks....Do you think someone held a gun to their heads and said "buy it or die" The demand for BIG vehicles in this country was so great in the last ten yeas we had a hard time with supply. This has been the only year that sales have suffered for Ford or Chevy, or Dodge for that matter where the BIG vehicle was suffering sales.. But let me tell you Toyota is also suffering and so is Honda. We are all suffering the economy crisis. I work for the big three and am proud to say so. I will never drive anything but American made. When you say We never listened to the consumer, well tell me why Chevy was the number one selling make in the country...because the consumer had a gun to their head.... Get serious. The problem does not lie with the company, it lies with the Wall Street Thieves.

12-13-2008, 07:39 AM	#3
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: GOP Senators Voice Opposition To Auto Bailout Liquidswordz Creative.... how about the new 09 Ford Fusion hybrid at 39 mpg that beats the Camry hybrid..or the 33mpg Malibu that beats the Accord are you aware that GM outsold Toyota by 1.2 million in the us or that GM was the largest selling maker worldwide beating Toyota by 3000 vehicles That Ford outsold Honda by 850,000 or Nissan by 1.2 million...Too many here seem to still be listening to Big media with their great agenda to dissolve this country and create a NEW WORLD ORDER The Toyota store across the street from my store just laid off 85 people from the store in all departments... The Honda store down the street is off over half their sales just like our Chevy and Ford store here... And all the vendors who support our store are suffering... This is by no means just about the big three.

12-13-2008, 11:06 AM	#4
sleepingnomore Guest Posts: n/a	Re: GOP Senators Voice Opposition To Auto Bailout This opposition isn't about concern for taxpayer dollars. Dig a little deeper, the Republicans are punishing Detroit for backing Obama, period. An interesting tidbit, Republican party members were sent an "Action Alert" to break the unions, it's always what this opposition has been about. I don't agree with the way these automakers run the companies, but face it the workers will take the fall as usual. They had no problem backing the banking industry. Make no mistake, someone will bail out Detroit and then all the profits will go out of country and jobs will still be cut.

12-13-2008, 03:21 PM	#5
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: GOP Senators Voice Opposition To Auto Bailout I appreciate that. The unions have always been democrat run. So why would Bush, a Republican, be planning to override congress and give the assistance? It's a mystery to me, I just know I have lost over half my income, and the possibility of not being able to pay my overinflated home mortgage is all to close to happening. Keep in mind The other auto makers are down as well. They may stay a float for a while longer, but every one is being affected. This is an economic collapse and all the bail out money will only prolong what is going to happen anyway. The unions drastically affect the COST of making vehicles, so the other European manufactures have more profit and may sustain longer, but make no mistake their having their share of problems too. Hence of course the big three will have to make more concessions with regards to unions, and the cost of doing business. I don't belong to a union in my line of work, but believe this, the effect is everywhere. The cost to the taxpayer will be health care, unemployment from the pension funds demise, and job cut backs Over 20 small privately owned dealers in California alone have closed their doors. They could not survive the last year. This all happened before September and the major announcement of economy collapse. This has been coming for some time now. It's just coming to light now...to the mainstream public. This is just a show for the ptb to eventually announce the need for a nwo, and restructure of all corporate business, etc etc etc Lets all remember...the paper they write these loans on the MONEY is worthless, and when the real cirses hits, the bailout will mean NOTHING... This is the real issue Last edited by BROOK; 12-13-2008 at 04:14 PM.