Chemtrails in action??

hueyii · 12-12-2008, 03:03 PM

Hey Raul,

It's a theory (compartmentalisation) that logically makes sense, but I give it weight in my rationalisation. To me there are other factors that outweigh it. Consider the logistical challenge and costs of mass spraying or even the cost. Keep in mind the airlines are in trouble and cannot afford this.

There are no secret planes doing it either.

No matter what planes you are using, you would need to file a flight plan. Even the military does this. Believing that chemtrails are real requires belief that air traffic controllers are in on it and keeping silent about suspicious flight plans. I know an air traffic controller, an airforce pilot and an airline pilot that pointed this out to me. After listening to them I felt pretty dumb.

There are an enormous number of variables not addressed by this theory. What about the weight of the planes with alleged chemical tanks filled? Cancelled flights? Rerouting for weather?

There is no evidence whatsoever of aircraft modified to perform some of the spraying methodologies that are proposed. The only things on an aircraft that shoot things out (besides the engine exhaust) is the toilet and the fuel dump orifices, often at the wing tip. If the aircraft are squirting chemicals out of the fuel dump nozzles, what's in the fuel tanks? Poisonous chemicals?
(One exception to this is a military version of a civilian aircraft called TACAMO, a Navy variant of the AWACS aircraft. It has these oddball nozzles near the base of the wings. But they're still fuel-dump nozzles; they've merely been moved inboard because the TACAMO has reconnaissance pods at the wingtips, and they don't want to jettison JP-8 over the million-dollar electronics.)

If they were using the human waste dump orifices then they would beed to install devices to aerosolize the chemicals and tell the pilots where to release. If it were a passenger airplane it could not spray in a checkerboard pattern because they are on a timetable to get from point a to point b.

Bear in mind that you don't just strap in a couple of big tanks and poke the nozzles out through the aircraft fuselage. There are VERY stringent engineering details to be worked out regarding structural integrity, calibration of instruments, movable center of gravity, who/when chemicals are loaded, flight plans that are not suspect, environmental protection for the crew and poison-loaders, trainiung of pilots, wiring for the release mechanism in the cockpit etc. etc. etc.

Airplane exhaust is poisonous itself. More poisonous that auto exhaust. It contributes to respiratory and other medical problems. THAT is something to worry about, not a conspiracy "theory" that cannot be rationalized.

More important things to focus on these days. Economy, war, disease, environment. Focus on things you can help affect change with.

Peace to you and thanks for the dialogue.

Sarahmay · 12-12-2008, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hueyii

Hey Raul,

It's a theory (compartmentalisation) that logically makes sense, but I give it weight in my rationalisation. To me there are other factors that outweigh it. Consider the logistical challenge and costs of mass spraying or even the cost. Keep in mind the airlines are in trouble and cannot afford this.

There are no secret planes doing it either.

No matter what planes you are using, you would need to file a flight plan. Even the military does this. Believing that chemtrails are real requires belief that air traffic controllers are in on it and keeping silent about suspicious flight plans. I know an air traffic controller, an airforce pilot and an airline pilot that pointed this out to me. After listening to them I felt pretty dumb.

There are an enormous number of variables not addressed by this theory. What about the weight of the planes with alleged chemical tanks filled? Cancelled flights? Rerouting for weather?

There is no evidence whatsoever of aircraft modified to perform some of the spraying methodologies that are proposed. The only things on an aircraft that shoot things out (besides the engine exhaust) is the toilet and the fuel dump orifices, often at the wing tip. If the aircraft are squirting chemicals out of the fuel dump nozzles, what's in the fuel tanks? Poisonous chemicals?
(One exception to this is a military version of a civilian aircraft called TACAMO, a Navy variant of the AWACS aircraft. It has these oddball nozzles near the base of the wings. But they're still fuel-dump nozzles; they've merely been moved inboard because the TACAMO has reconnaissance pods at the wingtips, and they don't want to jettison JP-8 over the million-dollar electronics.)

If they were using the human waste dump orifices then they would beed to install devices to aerosolize the chemicals and tell the pilots where to release. If it were a passenger airplane it could not spray in a checkerboard pattern because they are on a timetable to get from point a to point b.

Bear in mind that you don't just strap in a couple of big tanks and poke the nozzles out through the aircraft fuselage. There are VERY stringent engineering details to be worked out regarding structural integrity, calibration of instruments, movable center of gravity, who/when chemicals are loaded, flight plans that are not suspect, environmental protection for the crew and poison-loaders, trainiung of pilots, wiring for the release mechanism in the cockpit etc. etc. etc.

Airplane exhaust is poisonous itself. More poisonous that auto exhaust. It contributes to respiratory and other medical problems. THAT is something to worry about, not a conspiracy "theory" that cannot be rationalized.

More important things to focus on these days. Economy, war, disease, environment. Focus on things you can help affect change with.

Peace to you and thanks for the dialogue.

Huey, you can write all you want about why they aren't chemtrails, but look in the sky. They ARE THERE. They are absolutely not contrails, I live in an area with zero commercial air traffic. There is no reason for lines and x's to be spread across the sky, yet they are there. This is what frustrates me about the chemtrail issue, so many people are in denial about it even when it is right in front of their eyes. Can your pilot or air traffic controller friends explain what those streaks across the sky are? I don't think they can. A regular contrail dissipates within seconds. And this issue very much affects economy, disease and environment.

Starlah · 02-11-2009, 09:01 AM

There is no evidence whatsoever of aircraft modified to perform some of the spraying methodologies that are proposed. The only things on an aircraft that shoot things out (besides the engine exhaust) is the toilet and the fuel dump orifices, often at the wing tip. If the aircraft are squirting chemicals out of the fuel dump nozzles, what's in the fuel tanks? Poisonous chemicals?
(One exception to this is a military version of a civilian aircraft called TACAMO, a Navy variant of the AWACS aircraft. It has these oddball nozzles near the base of the wings. But they're still fuel-dump nozzles; they've merely been moved inboard because the TACAMO has reconnaissance pods at the wingtips, and they don't want to jettison JP-8 over the million-dollar electronics.)

If they were using the human waste dump orifices then they would beed to install devices to aerosolize the chemicals and tell the pilots where to release. If it were a passenger airplane it could not spray in a checkerboard pattern because they are on a timetable to get from point a to point b.

__________________________________________________ ____

Thanks Hueyii for your insight...this confirms to me that the airplanes being used are Drones...
Enlighten yourself with the Videos below...make sure you don't tell Boeing!

Posted below are extremely informative videos regarding Chemtrails:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSryORtHQZw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wye2YWRohT4&NR=1

__________________________________________________ ______
The End is the Beginning and the Beginning is Now...Yours Truly

Connecting with Sauce · 02-11-2009, 10:19 AM

I do not believe the weather modification stance for the follow reasons…

If this was the case for 'global warming' it would NOT be concentrated in highly populated areas and it would be every day of the week rather than Thursday/Friday/Saturday when the majority of people will be outside enjoying the 'fresh' air. I feel it is for mass immune system attack to lower everybodies body to what is about to occur.

12-12-2008, 03:03 PM	#1
hueyii Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 211	Re: Chemtrails in action?? Hey Raul, It's a theory (compartmentalisation) that logically makes sense, but I give it weight in my rationalisation. To me there are other factors that outweigh it. Consider the logistical challenge and costs of mass spraying or even the cost. Keep in mind the airlines are in trouble and cannot afford this. There are no secret planes doing it either. No matter what planes you are using, you would need to file a flight plan. Even the military does this. Believing that chemtrails are real requires belief that air traffic controllers are in on it and keeping silent about suspicious flight plans. I know an air traffic controller, an airforce pilot and an airline pilot that pointed this out to me. After listening to them I felt pretty dumb. There are an enormous number of variables not addressed by this theory. What about the weight of the planes with alleged chemical tanks filled? Cancelled flights? Rerouting for weather? There is no evidence whatsoever of aircraft modified to perform some of the spraying methodologies that are proposed. The only things on an aircraft that shoot things out (besides the engine exhaust) is the toilet and the fuel dump orifices, often at the wing tip. If the aircraft are squirting chemicals out of the fuel dump nozzles, what's in the fuel tanks? Poisonous chemicals? (One exception to this is a military version of a civilian aircraft called TACAMO, a Navy variant of the AWACS aircraft. It has these oddball nozzles near the base of the wings. But they're still fuel-dump nozzles; they've merely been moved inboard because the TACAMO has reconnaissance pods at the wingtips, and they don't want to jettison JP-8 over the million-dollar electronics.) If they were using the human waste dump orifices then they would beed to install devices to aerosolize the chemicals and tell the pilots where to release. If it were a passenger airplane it could not spray in a checkerboard pattern because they are on a timetable to get from point a to point b. Bear in mind that you don't just strap in a couple of big tanks and poke the nozzles out through the aircraft fuselage. There are VERY stringent engineering details to be worked out regarding structural integrity, calibration of instruments, movable center of gravity, who/when chemicals are loaded, flight plans that are not suspect, environmental protection for the crew and poison-loaders, trainiung of pilots, wiring for the release mechanism in the cockpit etc. etc. etc. Airplane exhaust is poisonous itself. More poisonous that auto exhaust. It contributes to respiratory and other medical problems. THAT is something to worry about, not a conspiracy "theory" that cannot be rationalized. More important things to focus on these days. Economy, war, disease, environment. Focus on things you can help affect change with. Peace to you and thanks for the dialogue.

02-11-2009, 09:01 AM	#3
Starlah Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 372	Re: Chemtrails in action?? There is no evidence whatsoever of aircraft modified to perform some of the spraying methodologies that are proposed. The only things on an aircraft that shoot things out (besides the engine exhaust) is the toilet and the fuel dump orifices, often at the wing tip. If the aircraft are squirting chemicals out of the fuel dump nozzles, what's in the fuel tanks? Poisonous chemicals? (One exception to this is a military version of a civilian aircraft called TACAMO, a Navy variant of the AWACS aircraft. It has these oddball nozzles near the base of the wings. But they're still fuel-dump nozzles; they've merely been moved inboard because the TACAMO has reconnaissance pods at the wingtips, and they don't want to jettison JP-8 over the million-dollar electronics.) If they were using the human waste dump orifices then they would beed to install devices to aerosolize the chemicals and tell the pilots where to release. If it were a passenger airplane it could not spray in a checkerboard pattern because they are on a timetable to get from point a to point b. __________________________________________________ ____ Thanks Hueyii for your insight...this confirms to me that the airplanes being used are Drones... Enlighten yourself with the Videos below...make sure you don't tell Boeing! Posted below are extremely informative videos regarding Chemtrails: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSryORtHQZw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wye2YWRohT4&NR=1 __________________________________________________ ______ The End is the Beginning and the Beginning is Now...Yours Truly

02-11-2009, 10:19 AM	#4
Connecting with Sauce Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Chelmsford, Essex Posts: 650	Re: Chemtrails in action?? I do not believe the weather modification stance for the follow reasons… If this was the case for 'global warming' it would NOT be concentrated in highly populated areas and it would be every day of the week rather than Thursday/Friday/Saturday when the majority of people will be outside enjoying the 'fresh' air. I feel it is for mass immune system attack to lower everybodies body to what is about to occur.