JAMES: The WingMakers Interview on Camelot

[Gnosis5]

Pardon me, but who told you to spend all day doing the quantum breath? Have you done any sort of spiritual processes in the past?

best,
gnosis

Originally Posted by Czymra

I can see what you mean but speaking/thinking/feeling about it is not going to help it.
So what do I do with the rest of my life when I'm just supposed to sit there and practice the quantum pause. I still need food huh?

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Czymra View Post
I do agree with the notion of 'saving ourselves' and many other concepts that dismiss dogmas of any kind. However, I am still left wondering what's left and how this actually ties in with the life I'm leading for obviously if I can't even escape in death, what's the point? And when living, am I to act and stand thoughtless and emotionless at all times or is this just a state to 'ground' me again?

Czymra, I think that is the best question. When you stand looking at a rollercoaster ride for the first time you can only wonder what it might be like to actually experience it. Then you decide if you wish to pay for that experience. Point, you have to experience it to answer your questions.

Because of the experiences I am paying for (my past life sessions) I know I will not be in any astral or etheric trap, at least not to the extent that I would have been. So, when I drop my body, death will not sting in the astral. In the worst case scenario, I will have to go and find a good family and be born again and continue with my chosen spiritual path. So what if it takes a couple of lifetimes?!?

Stillness of mind makes one more active and more in the now. Thinking and mind chatter slows one down. When I had my still experience I was bounding up the stairs and moving very very fast -- because I was looking in the now and not thinking about it. One can make good judgements just by looking in the now. The mind can keep us in the past or fixated on the future.

As for emotions, one has a richer range and overlay of emotions when they disengage the preset emotions that the mind can handle. Try it, you might enjoy it

That is my experience. I arranged to have this experience and if you really want the answer to your questions then work on having the experience. I would love to read your posts about that.

Myself and a friend experienced this stillness and my friend described it as a tiger ready to pounce and I described it as an avenging angel. The mind is an interactive navigational problem solving tool, but it is a poor copy of an aspect of yourself.

If you don't like the interruption of mind chatter, you can always bring it back :-)

My experience did not last more than 3 days because I did not first fully address the unconscious junk that holds it there in the first place. Thus, no more shortcuts for me and I am trudging through my past life sessions.

STILLNESS OF MIND IS AWESOME!!!

[Czymra]

Originally Posted by Gnosis5

Stillness of mind makes one more active and more in the now. Thinking and mind chatter slows one down. When I had my still experience I was bounding up the stairs and moving very very fast -- because I was looking in the now and not thinking about it. One can make good judgements just by looking in the now. The mind can keep us in the past or fixated on the future.

As for emotions, one has a richer range and overlay of emotions when they disengage the preset emotions that the mind can handle. Try it, you might enjoy it

That makes a lot of sense to me. Thank you for that. I suppose that constant rant against the mind and emotions (that are programmed) made me believe that there are not to be any emotions etc. at all.
But there are two more questions then:
1. Living in the now is great, but how do you make plans in that state? For personal experiences I don't need to make plans but when working on a project I keep on being told it's crucial. And in fact when I don't have plans I might discover fantastic things but I don't end up with anything 'complete'.
2. I have great respect for the idea of 'not feeling' as well. Since you draw your light sabre I might liken it to the idea of Luke Skywalker giving himself away by feeling for his friends and family. He too is supposed to fight without anger or love. Now don't think I'm basing all this on some weird film but I have experienced that 'emotionlessness' just works in a martial arts context, but doesn't it take all the fun out of being?

Sorry if I turn in circles but I really appreciate any input and hope that others can gain from this, as well.

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Czymra

That makes a lot of sense to me. Thank you for that. I suppose that constant rant against the mind and emotions (that are programmed) made me believe that there are not to be any emotions etc. at all.

I understand


But there are two more questions then:
1. Living in the now is great, but how do you make plans in that state? For personal experiences I don't need to make plans but when working on a project I keep on being told it's crucial. And in fact when I don't have plans I might discover fantastic things but I don't end up with anything 'complete'.

Good question, but I suspect that "planning" might be a way of working through the mind. We are on terra incognita here Isn't it wonderful?!



2. I have great respect for the idea of 'not feeling' as well. Since you draw your light sabre I might liken it to the idea of Luke Skywalker giving himself away by feeling for his friends and family. He too is supposed to fight without anger or love. Now don't think I'm basing all this on some weird film but I have experienced that 'emotionlessness' just works in a martial arts context, but doesn't it take all the fun out of being?

Oh, god, no! In my past life sessions when I go back to before any physical universes (and physical minds) I find that my emotions are much more interesting, richer. The mind needs to be stilled in order to experience a full range of expression and emotions. Polarities need to be unlocked to experience a full range of expression, which is your native gift. I am told that a good Zen Koan will do it. Your mind might be a nifty little gadget that needs some upgrades, but it's not the full you

Sorry if I turn in circles but I really appreciate any input and hope that others can gain from this, as well.

best,
gnosis

[Czymra]

Originally Posted by Gnosis5

Pardon me, but who told you to spend all day doing the quantum breath? Have you done any sort of spiritual processes in the past?

best,
gnosis

Nobody did, but it is made rather clear that what is being talked about is NOT spirituality, so why would I approach it in the same manner?
By the way, I probably haven't been very 'spiritual' in the sense of sitting there and meditating for hours.

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Czymra

Nobody did, but it is made rather clear that what is being talked about is NOT spirituality, so why would I approach it in the same manner?
By the way, I probably haven't been very 'spiritual' in the sense of sitting there and meditating for hours.

Okay, thanks for answering. I see that there is the misconception about what it means to be "spiritual". I'm using myself as an example because I am not as advanced as some of the beings on this forum, so maybe I've done a little more work than yourself but I'm not out of your league

What I see is happening with me as I continue in my sessions is that I am becoming more balanced, have a fuller range of expression and thus can deal with life better. For example, mother just died and I was not in tears and guilt as my brother was. My responses to my Hubby are less fixed, less knee jerk and we do not push each other's buttons the way married couples are wont to I don't kick the dog either There are more channels that I can tune into mentally. It's a slow but sure piecing back together of my sovereign integral or my original self, removing the ties that bind.

I'm most decidely not perfect, but I can feel it coming