Should we remove windmakers from our forum?

[blindeye]

I sometimes have bad gas;please dont ban me...

[THE eXchanger]

strike 2

[becky]

Thanks for the post Rose. And thanks for the clarification Slart. It's interesting to see dis-info discredited.

It makes perfect sense to me that efforts would be made to slam the site since so much government "truth" has been woven into the material.

But what you can't really destroy are the RESULTS that the material actually produces in peoples lives. By simply employing the breathing exercises over the past 2 days, I've already had an extremely MAGICAL growth experience.

And if it is a HOAX, I guess I like hoaxes that teach me how to be unified, compassionate, loving and interconnected to all of life.

I'm sending love to all of you right now!
Becky

P.S. Sorry about the WIND, I had a bean burrito for lunch.

Rose, I hope you're laughing about the windmakers teasing, it's just too hard to resist!

[loveTempest]

It's a good mix of the self realization fellowship paramahansa teaachings/breathing exercises , Sitchen, and the law of one material (he negates). This 1998 portal seems like his back door escape out of a rising need for direction. The breathing exercises are an incredibly powerful focusing tool but nothing new.
Q. What is the equivalent to this breathing in our light bodies if it is the through line?
seems like the through line is buy the cd "soul food "

quite an elaborate sales pitch for an album.

reminds me of carlos castaneda's writing. lots of holes.

really fun read. I like the part about extradimensional entities staying here too long and being stuck here,"trapped by gravity" reminds me of Hotel California.

If we are swindled into this self perpetuating paradigm then there is something inherent to the human spirit that still is satisfied/attracted by this cosmic co-dependence. we love sex and wild strawberry shortcake.

what is this gratitude he speaks of? vibrations? back to the cd.

somebody take this guy camping. we can enjoy the material world as we sail towards our preclandestined quintessence . We are hibrids of several dimensions. 3d is our first language.

this guy wants to throw the baby out with the bath water. I'm thankful for the earth and my body that I've taken much better care of than most do. this is also a lesson. he sounds like the kid who lies about being ill to stay inside for recess. I built my own house.

whatever I did to get such a good hand I'm aware and generous in return. this life transformation is another place to further learn to honor each other. I teach and learn every day even from this. I'm wary of what's being sold in James' punk rock paradigm. Why and what is he hiding from?
LOVE?


loving god's plan.

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by becky

I'm sending love to all of you right now!
Becky

P.S. Sorry about the WIND, I had a bean burrito for lunch.

Big TOOT--Big TOOT--BiG TOOT

[Greg10036]

No. It is very well done and highly entertaining.

[efields]

Originally Posted by Greg10036

No. It is very well done and highly entertaining.

Yes I totally agree. And it does not matter if the information was published before someplace else either. Truth is Truth, no matter where it comes from. This information resonated with my own knowing as credible to me.

[milk and honey]

Originally Posted by efields

Yes I totally agree. And it does not matter if the information was published before someplace else either.

That's true but is does matter that James fails to credit the identifiable sources of his work. Rather, he discredits and dismisses them. There is an obvious subtext to that curiosity.

Originally Posted by efields

Truth is Truth, no matter where it comes from. This information resonated with my own knowing as credible to me.

Truth originates from one ultimate source and we do resonate with it when we see it's reflection because we originate from the same source. But the MO of the power elite on this planet is to use concepts of truth to deliver their own agenda. So 'resonance' is always assured. It is a subtle art which they have mastered by catering to our innate sensibilities.

James' work picks it's psychological and historical targets carefully while delivering it's own payload in the jargon of spirituality and service.

[eraser2012]

[QUOTE=becky;92396]

And if it is a HOAX, I guess I like hoaxes that teach me how to be unified, compassionate, loving and interconnected to all of life.


Becky, kudos to you for this statement... I wholeheartedly agree. Wingmakers and the James interview do not ring of a hoax to me as there does not seem to be a motive. What do the pro-hoax folks (no rhyme intended) think James is trying to pull on us? If it were a hoax and it took off, the result would be a far better world than we live in at the moment. It doesn't make "predictions", it doesn't seek anything from the reader, it doesn't try to capitalize on anything that I can discern.

Thanks again for your post!

Ray

[martina]

I think it's not so good, to claim knowledge, that you got somewhere else, is yours. I don't understand the tone of his answers. Most people are serious looking for answers and you might think he is a kind of authority if you read this interview. Although, he gives great info, it can be misleading too.

[MyShadow]

Just like anything else that pops up on this and other sites, my advice would be to use your own discernment on this material and pull out what resonates for you, and perhaps some things will cause your thoughts to expand.

And keep in mind, a Camelot "showcase" does not equal an endorsement of "the truth". It's just an interesting find they are putting out for your review and discernment. I think where this get's mis-guided is when someone from Camelot says "this resonates with me", or they weave it into the Camelot "state of the union" summary. It's your job to review and discern, and realize that there are many perspectives and truths, not just "One".

For me, this filter presents maturity in articulation, yet is immature in content based on woven non-discernment of others material. Also I pick up a vieled intention, don't quite know or care what it is - but dilutes the material further. Just my perspective, does not have to be yours.

Removing or banning? No way, every perspective has value, regardless of resonation.

[freespirit]

In a nutshell no !

Hoax or not it's pretty obvious all of you have come away with something
positive.So if there are any disinfo agents reading this.. You Failed !

I'd gravitated towards wingmaker back in sept about the same time i read this.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/es...e_8.htm#inicio

freespirit

[Josefine]

Originally Posted by MyShadow

Just like anything else that pops up on this and other sites, my advice would be to use your own discernment on this material and pull out what resonates for you, and perhaps some things will cause your thoughts to expand.

For me, this filter presents maturity in articulation, yet is immature in content based on woven non-discernment of others material. Also I pick up a vieled intention, don't quite know or care what it is - but dilutes the material further. Just my perspective, does not have to be yours.

Removing or banning? No way, every perspective has value, regardless of resonation.

I totally agree with you. I also pick up on a veiled intention, and I have addressed it on another thread.

[Pomguymguy]

Originally Posted by blindeye

I sometimes have bad gas;please dont ban me...

Also gives you a whole new meaning for "out of body experiance"

[Dominic]

This new member is posting a spam mass mailing

Dis info agent in my mind.

I really am enjoying the Wingmakers stuff


Peace

[Truther21]

Originally Posted by Dominic

This new member is posting a spam mass mailing

Dis info agent in my mind.

I really am enjoying the Wingmakers stuff


Peace

I agree.......... Some people should

[Harper]

I was going to write a long explanation but now I am going to take my own advise and remain simple. Its astonishing how no matter how many lives we have all lead that human beings always reject the simple in favour of a huge elaborate story with flying machines and strange coloured aliens.

Is it so difficult to give up on all the drama that we create with these stories and just believe that breathing could bring us to a place of realisation.

Remember the first response of a human when she/he is afraid is that they forget to breathe, so fear stops breath.

I do wish that people who don't agree with this or that report here could just do so quietly. Its the fame of starting an incendary thread I think and all the drama that comes with it. yawn.................................

Love and light and breathes to you all.

[Myplanet2]

You make a good point, Harper. That's one of the best things I've taken from the James interview so far. complexity just leads to more complexity.

I can see where James points. I know of at least one other "Seer" who pointed directly at the non thing, in the non place which James calls the Sovereign Integral. Because it is what it is, it is the absence of all which hides it, and which must simply be bypassed. All the additive "bric-a-brac" garbage of the "human mind system" trying to integrate all that "god-spirit-soul-complex" nonsense into an analysed "whole".

It's all just so much noise. you could spend many lifetimes trying to quiet all the noise, and to peel away at the layers of HMS-GSSC to try to uncover what's right there, all the time. The Sovereign Integral.

This interview is a masterpiece. It can't be thought through. that's just rummaging around inside the prison with no inkling that the prison walls are held there by you and no one else

detractors should just read it again. and try to follow the pointers rather than looking up the arm to see who's pointing, and "what's wrong with them?"

[FrostyMcunicron]

if its a fake, hoax, poser etc. Get it outta here & dont promote it cause its not worth our time & attention to read or see. Keeping it around would only encourage disinfomation spewing attention *seekers* & im pretty anti dis information, Waste of air if i wanted that id watch the main stream news.

p.s.

"And if it is a HOAX, I guess I like hoaxes that teach me how to be unified, compassionate, loving and interconnected to all of life."

If you enjoy stories which teach good morals read the bible. Many who have before hand soon after use the nice content to justify unverified claims & opinions by the Vatican.

The Nazi's enjoyed being unified under one cause & purpose as well. A few of them even thought Hitler's ideology was false & unverified, they got lead off a cliff in the end.

My point is even though a lil bit of persevered positive came from axis powers being that sense of unification, it doesn't do anything near justify its existence in the first place.

"And if it is a HOAX(false ideology), I guess I like hoaxes that teach me how to be unified."

The New world order WILL likely try to tell you(&me) giving up fire arms & going into the camps is good, for "unification and safety purposes" as well.

We must not be naive(as a mass).

[milk and honey]

Originally Posted by FrostyMcunicron

if its a fake, hoax, poser etc. Get it outta here & dont promote it cause its not worth our time & attention to read or see. Keeping it around would only encourage disinfomation spewing attention *seekers* & im pretty anti dis information, Waste of air if i wanted that id watch the main stream news.

If we did that we would have to jettison virtually all the Project Camelot personalities. Then how would we hone our discernment?

Even children's stories prepare the psyche for their modus operandi.

There's often an ugly hooded character with a toothless smile who offers the child a bright, shiny, luscious apple. Yet it is laced with deadly poison.

Originally Posted by FrostyMcunicron

p.s.

"And if it is a HOAX, I guess I like hoaxes that teach me how to be unified, compassionate, loving and interconnected to all of life."

If you enjoy stories which teach good morals read the bible. Many who have before hand soon after use the nice content to justify unverified claims & opinions by the Vatican.

The Nazi's enjoyed being unified under one cause & purpose as well. A few of them even thought Hitler's ideology was false & unverified, they got lead off a cliff in the end.

My point is even though a lil bit of persevered positive came from axis powers being that sense of unification, it doesn't do anything near justify its existence in the first place.

"And if it is a HOAX(false ideology), I guess I like hoaxes that teach me how to be unified."

The New world order WILL likely try to tell you(&me) giving up fire arms & going into the camps is good, for "unification and safety purposes" as well.

We must not be naive(as a mass).

If they get their way they will try to convince us we are One Mind in the human consciousness and all equal. Any dissent by the individual will be a crime against the ONE... a crime against Unity. And who will decide that? The High Priests/Gov't will be the authority on everything. They will say.... "We have a singularly unique perception of everything and are commissioned by the ONE to do certain things. You dissagree? You are just not discerning correctly.... It takes a very high level of discernment to understand the ONE. We are qualified, you are not."

[Fredkc]

First of all, to the question: No.

Second, and you can search my posts; I don't think you'll find me saying much of anything negative about someone on this forum. It dislikes me.

I prefer to limit my posts to the subject matter. Little else is ever productive. That said, I have now read the third of a total of three(3) posts by RoseK. The following seems intuitively obvious to the least discerning observer.

ROSEKAMINSKI (n.) If it looks like a troll, walks like a troll, croaks like a troll, it's a Troll.

Re. ROSEKAMINSKI's claim of a "hoax". Gee, lemme see....

Hoax (n.) A deception for mockery or mischief; a deceptive story or trick; a practical joke.

Then, from page 5 of "James: The WingMakers Interview"

Question 1 from Project Camelot:
How much of the WingMakers story is true or based on fact?

Answer 1 from James:
"The terrestrial storyline is based on a technique called Sensory Bi-Location (SBL), which is similar to remote viewing in concept.
The cosmological scope of the story is mythological..."

Maybe RoseK. is having trouble with the word "mythological", or was Peter Rabbit also a hoax?