What is 2012? (or "The Great Harvest")

[towhatend]

Hi Sanat, many thanks for putting this together. More reading necessary!!
Something of interest. I recently had a short session with a SCIO machine and as part of the information that came from my body at that particular moment my aura colour was light blue. The operator of the machine had compiled some notes from different sources on the meaning of the different colours. Light blue indicated service to others(her words). It was nice to get some feedback on changes that I'd been making to my output. For others who may seek to see "how they're doing" I'm happy to pass on the details.

As a signing off, this is a wonderful time to be incarnate

regards, towhatend

[Sanat]

Hi Towhatend!

I get some questions about this "service to others (StO)" vs. "service to self (StS)" thing. I am not familiar with the "machine" you mention. But I will use this opportunity to adress the issue in general.

It is important not to think that doing what you like is somehow "egoistic" or StS. Developing talents and doing what you like is natural. Following your highest Joy is probably the best Service to Others you can provide. StO is not so much about "outer behavior" as it is about inner attitude. Eating a good meal in gratitude is StO as you need food to be of any use/service at all. Detaching from the fruit of ones actions is a great way of practicing StO. Simply do things because you feel Joy and Excitement by doing it. StO is not about what people "think of you" (Oh, everybody says I am so generous. I donate half my pay to charity etc.) It is not about that at all. Not expecting anything from anyone is great StO polarization. It grinds down the ego if it can be practised with "success" over time. Simply working on oneself and cleansing oneself (both mind and body) is not "egoistical", but highly polarzing towards StO. You cannot be a good mirror to others if you are full of dirt. First clean your own mirror, and then certain people will want to look in that clean mirror to see who they really are and clean themselves.

Most people are in the "indifferent zone" so to speak. They are not using their free will to polarize towards neither StS or StO. They have enough with simply getting by in the struggle of everyday life.

StS polarization is about power over others. It is about control and not allowing free will in others. It's simply cultivating one's ego and sense of being an isolated separate "I" in a very hostile world. Everyone has this ego inside them in various degrees. Free will can be used to "wear it down" or to cultivate it. The ego projects blame on to others (the world etc.) always. Taking self-responsality is a great way of wearing it down. The battle between Light and darkness is in everything, but it can only be "won" inside each individual.

To further understand the two "main paths" of StO and StS I suggest looking at RA's material here (where you can Browse by Category): http://www.lawofone.info/

Thanks!

Love/Light,

Sanat

[LiquidSwordz]

Sorry to tell you Sanat, but your friend Ra is a TOTAL joke, when it comes to the building of the pyramids. Im not sure why you believe all this stuff to be true. Heres a link of PROOF, on how the pyramids were built!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lasCXujNPfs


I'll read your others sources, but your friend Ra is a fluke! Ra clearly states in this response, that THEY built the pyramids! These guys are nuts!


III. RA MADE CONTACT WITH EARTH PEOPLES

A. RA WAS AT THE 6TH DIMENSION WHEN EARTH WAS VISITED

RA: I am part of the social memory complex that voyaged outward from a planet in your solar system, the one you call Venus. We are a race old in your measures. When we were at the 6th dimension our physical beings were what you call golden. We were tall and somewhat delicate. The covering of our physical body complex had a golden luster. In this form we decided to come among your peoples. Your peoples were much unlike us in physical appearance. Thus we did not mix well with the population and were obviously other than they. Our visit was relatively short. This was when we built the pyramids.

[Sanat]

Thanks for stating your opinion! You don't have to be sorry for that at all. Your opinion is as valuable as anyone elses, but it has little to do with me or anyone else, and much more to do with yourself. What you choose to regard as proof is up to you. I am sure many others would see things diffrently. Feel free to check out any sources you wish. Again, that is your business.

Thanks!

- Sanat

[recallone]

Some more balance...

Did Aliens build the Pyramids? Part one
Did Aliens build the Pyramids? Part two
Did Aliens build the Pyramids? Part three

Personally, I don't think man alone could have done it. Even today, with our current technology - we still aren't able to duplicate the great Pyramid of Giza, or any others for that matter. Too many unanswered questions - failed theories. I don't give the Law of One too much credit for reasons stated previously, but I don't think this was done by humans. Where are the records of this monumental undertaking? Where is all the debris? How could they have used logs to roll the great stones in a land that only has a handful of palm trees? If you do the math concerning all of the theories, you'll likely reach the same conclusions, especially when you consider the pyramids on Mars and their placement.

Peace.
recallone

[towhatend]

Hi Sanat, thanks for your reply to my post. In understanding STO, ego(physicality) is eschewed, sometimes!! and all the time!! that's the tricky part, sometimes!!! Anyways, thanks for writing what I'm feeling. Its great to share!! Have a good one.

[micjer]

Originally Posted by recallone

Some more balance...


Personally, I don't think man alone could have done it. Even today, with our current technology - we still aren't able to duplicate the great Pyramid of Giza, or any others for that matter. Too many unanswered questions - failed theories. I don't give the Law of One too much credit for reasons stated previously, but I don't think this was done by humans. Where are the records of this monumental undertaking? Where is all the debris? How could they have used logs to roll the great stones in a land that only has a handful of palm trees? If you do the math concerning all of the theories, you'll likely reach the same conclusions, especially when you consider the pyramids on Mars and their placement.

Peace.
recallone

I agree. The theory of an inside ramp might prove how they got the stones up to the top (though I doubt it) but it does not explain how the rocks were so accurately placed together or how they moved them so far over stone roads.

[Sanat]

Hi all! Thanks for making this thread interesting and valuable! I have tried to sort of sum up the essence in one article/message on my website. I will post the beginning of it here, and those that wish can read the rest on the site:

2012 and the Great Harvest

There is so much speculation about what 2012 is all about, and what will “happen”. In this report I will try to present a brief overview based on my research and intuitive understanding. Let’s start out with a quote from Terrence McKenna:

We all feel the growing sense of “urgency” as “time/events/karma” is condensed more and more up against the looming “deadline” of the Continuum - the eternal Present/Now. All accumulated past must be played/cleansed out in a shorter and shorter span of time. The “future” is a projection of the past, and both are subject to change from the eternal Now. Thus, cleansing out the “past” also automatically rids us from a corresponding amount of “future”. We are indeed moving headlong into the playful peak of the eternal Moment, where past/future worries don’t exist. Forgiveness, let go and Acceptance of Self/Others is key in this process.

Everyone benefits from participating in the ending of this cycle. Lessons are learned at a much greater speed than usual. Karma is being balanced out at record rate. Some call it “instant karma”. The potential for rapid growth is huge as polarization is amplified in everyone and everything. Timelines are being untangled from each other, and so are people. All darkness/unconsciousness/negativity is being brought to the Light of Awareness to be processed out of the system. But where are we going with all this? What will be the peak of the experience?

http://www.wakeupcall2012.com/messages.html

Hope you enjoy! And questions/comments are always welcome...

Thanks a lot!

Light/Love,

Sanat

[micjer]

Sanat,

I was reading some of your material. Thanks for that.

In reading some of the LawOfOne material, I read one statement that stood out. Session17:33. Ra states that it is as hard to achieve 51% service to others as it is to achieve 5% service to self for those going to 4th density negative.

Ra says not many will qualify for 4th density negative, so does this imply that not many are going to be eligible for harvest to the positive?

Also what things do you feel are services to others?David Wilcock says this does not mean going and helping out at soup kitchens.

[Sanat]

Originally Posted by micjer

Sanat,

I was reading some of your material. Thanks for that.

In reading some of the LawOfOne material, I read one statement that stood out. Session17:33. Ra states that it is as hard to achieve 51% service to others as it is to achieve 5% service to self for those going to 4th density negative.

Ra says not many will qualify for 4th density negative, so does this imply that not many are going to be eligible for harvest to the positive?

Also what things do you feel are services to others?David Wilcock says this does not mean going and helping out at soup kitchens.

If you read the whole article/message (my last post above with link) it will perhaps clarify some of these things you ask about. Very few "Earthlings" (i.e. the “indigenous population” so to speak) have a realistic chance of making positive harvest into 4th density. The vast majority fall in between positive and negative harvest. This being said; 40-45% (according to my research) of the current population are not of the “indigenous population”, but what Ra refers to as "Wanderers" (Star kids/seeds). Many of these Wanderers are already way above the limit. Many have no idea they are Wanderers (and that is the way it is supposed to be). Most of this is adressed in my latest message/article...

Service to others is an "orientation", and not so much what you do "outside". Being dedicated to spiritual growth is the best service to others there is. This is adressed in a post above.

Love,

Sanat

[micjer]

"The vast numbers of Wanderers ( around 40-45% of the current population) are here to both increase the positive Harvest, and to ensure that the process of “birthing” this 3rd density plane into a 4th density plane will go as smoothly as possible. Only a small percentage of these Wanderers (and the Earthlings that do qualify) will go to the new 4th density positive"


You wrote this in your message for Nov 30 08. My math would say that there are approx 3B wanderers. Ra states that there are approximately 60 million.

Maybe you meant 40-45 % of the wanderers are here to ensure the birthing process. Just confused!

[Sanat]

Originally Posted by micjer

"The vast numbers of Wanderers ( around 40-45% of the current population) are here to both increase the positive Harvest, and to ensure that the process of “birthing” this 3rd density plane into a 4th density plane will go as smoothly as possible. Only a small percentage of these Wanderers (and the Earthlings that do qualify) will go to the new 4th density positive"


You wrote this in your message for Nov 30 08. My math would say that there are approx 3B wanderers. Ra states that there are approxiametly 60 million.

Maybe you meant 40-45 % of the wanderers are here to ensure the birthing process. Just confused!

Remember that the RA material came out in the early 80's (80-83). He said that at that time there was around 60 million Wanderers on the planet. However he also said that they were coming in at a record rate at that time (and this probably have been continuing) due to the enourmous demand for Light.

[islandman]

Hi Sanat,

Thanks for this post, it is a welcome relief from the mad swirl of information/disinformation out there.

If its not to personal, How would you classify yourself? Wanderer, positive 3rd density ect and how did you find out. While Im sure the answer will come with much work on the self, I am wondering if there are any tell tale signs.

Keep up the good work.

[Sanat]

Originally Posted by islandman

Hi Sanat,

Thanks for this post, it is a welcome relief from the mad swirl of information/disinformation out there.

If its not to personal, How would you classify yourself? Wanderer, positive 3rd density ect and how did you find out. While Im sure the answer will come with much work on the self, I am wondering if there are any tell tale signs.

Keep up the good work.

Hi Islandman! Thanks! You too!

I am a Wanderer that came in from 5th density (i.e. my incarnation level was around 390 on the scale). I took in a lot of "darkness" and thus spent most of my life in the lower end of the scale (several years as low as 50 with heavy drinking, hopelessness and depression etc.). Yoga and a friend (another Wanderer) became my "wakeupcall". When I got the taste of "the real" I became very dedicated towards the seeking of Heart/Self. I became almost obsessed with cleansing myself (first more physical, and later more spiritual). It was some pretty rough years of transmuting all the darkness I had taken in and throwing off the conditioning (I was very ill physically for a year or so with rashes all over my body etc.) Eventually I got all cleaned up. Most of my "friends" was stripped away in that process.

The seeking/healing process eventually lead me to a group of dedicated seekers (r)evolving around a highly evolved Being/Master/Wanderer (top of the scale). Being in that Presence increased my healing process very much, and I was able to transmute all the darkness I had taken in into Light, and thus abide in the peace of the Present moment at all times.

The answers come from inner knowing. Darkness/ignorance transmuted into Light of Awareness. Not knowing is a great catalyst for search. And searching is the only way to get anywhere. Searching implies being able to admit "I do not know" at this time. That humbleness opens the heart and allows for true searching. Most people project their doubts and all darkness onto others and the world instead of searching. You have "found" when you no longer care what you are (wanderer or no wanderer. Positive harvest or no positive harvest). You are happy as things are right now. All else is just a game to make people realize it's all a game

[micjer]

Sanat,

Your old friends may have been stripped away, but you have certainly found new ones here.

My wife and I were talking the other night how our immediate friends have changed lately. It seems that the more negative people in our lives have been left behind. Seems we don't have much in common anymore. Our current group of friends are very "alive" and loving people. The type that would help out in a time of crisis. Some of them are not as "awake" as we might like but on the other hand are certainly service to others type.

It is amazing how you recognize the negative energies so much quicker now adays. The type that you prefer not to talk to long because they are bringing your emotions down to their level.

[Sanat]

Originally Posted by micjer

Sanat,

Your old friends may have been stripped away, but you have certainly found new ones here.

My wife and I were talking the other night how our immediate friends have changed lately. It seems that the more negative people in our lives have been left behind. Seems we don't have much in common anymore. Our current group of friends are very "alive" and loving people. The type that would help out in a time of crisis. Some of them are not as "awake" as we might like but on the other hand are certainly service to others type.

It is amazing how you recognize the negative energies so much quicker now adays. The type that you prefer not to talk to long because they are bringing your emotions down to their level.

Yes, that's how it is As we become more Aware suddenly we notice a lot of things. Like getting new eyes to see with. It does not matter what people "know about" so much, as long as they have a good Heart. Open mind and Heart goes a very long way. It's great to have good friends, but I have learned my lesson as to be very careful who I "let in". I prefer few but trusted friends for the time being. At least I have time to be on the inet a lot...hehe

[macrostheblack]

It is through places or meeting points like this that the human spirit can meet.

The worst idea for that year should be forgotten.

Focus on the future featuring people thinking from their hearts instead of the mindset that points to trouble.

The mind is a powerful tool. To think good tomorrow encourages the same. To doubt leads to problems.

The year so focused on will not happen in the the ways feared whilst we all join and see it being just another year. This is how i have seen the dreaded year. If you worry about a time in the future then you make that future!

You ask - What is 2012?

It is a test of the human spirit to overcome its blindness to spirituality. Tech will not solve our problems.

Macros the Black

[Sanat]

Yea, that certainly is a nice way to see it! Nothing "is" anything else than how each choose to see it. What works is what matters I guess. Thanks!

[towhatend]

Have just got up-to-date with all the latest posts on this one. Phew!! (wiping sweat off brow!!) It is interesting to note no one has mentioned the Cassiopaeans. Laura Knight-Jacdyzyk has penned a number of books and featured among them are excerpts from various channelled sessions with the Cassiopaeans(6th density, us in the future). I believe a lady Barbara Marciniak has had contact as well. I am not familiar with her work.

the rope is spun from many threads.

regards, towhatend

[Sanat]

I am not familiar with that work. But there is plenty out there all over the world, that is for sure. The way I see it no one will "survive" the Ascension/Harvest process as it implies a "zero point" period where Creation "refreshes" itself. The ET's, Wanderers and all that participate in this process are simply making sure that this Harvest is allowed to proceed/occur as planned, and that the planet is not destroyed (in "natural ways" or more "unnatural" ways like nuclear war) before the Harvest has occured. Hidden Hand and other sources comments on this "Zero point":

“You said that the "lukewarm people" at the time of harvest would not notice anything has happened, but they'd be on a different planet. Do you mean that they'd wake up with no memory of what has occurred but still be in the same physical body, or they'd wake up in a new physical body with no memory of any past life?”

There will be a short experience of 'zero-point time', where you feel utterly "at One" with your Infinite Creator. It will be a feeling of blissful, ecstatic expansiveness and Unity, whilst your physical vehicles (bodies) are dissolved back into Light, and transported to your new environment. When that transition is complete, the 'zero-point time' will end, and you will 'appear' in your new 'game-zone' (planet). You will look the same, think the same, feel the same, in fact, it will be just like you all had some mystical experience, and life will carry on as 'normal' for you. Same houses, family situations, jobs, friends, lovers. Everything will seem the same as before, you will not remember the Great Harvest or earth changes that occurred as the planet Earth heals and regenerates herself. But you will recall your 'mystical experience' and that will give you hope and a new opportunity to choose a more positive future for yourselves.

More about this can be found here:

http://www.wakeupcall2012.com/messages.html

[micjer]

Sanat,

I was reading that the author of the Ra material, Don Elkins developed mental illness in 1983 and shot himself when he was surrounded by police. Do you know any more details. Was it possible that the PTB wanted him out?

David Wilcock feels he couldn't handle the negativism of the critics of his work.

I have begun reading the material. It is amazing how some of the answers that were given at the time which seemed pretty far fetched have since been more accepted as being right. e.g. that the military have developed UFO's of their own.

[Allie]

So many interesting points of view - cheers!

I remember when I first came across the notion of a set percentage of 'survivors' and as time went on, I realised that this appears to be a commonality found in almost every theory/belief. Whether that is coming from the fear of, say, Codex Alimentarius or some channelings (but not all) from the Ascended Masters. It's almost everywhere, underlying almost every theme. Curious. The end result seemed the same but the underlying purpose and motivators are different.

Initially, I wondered about questions such as 'survival' and 'who am I'? and I wanted to know all the answers. I came across sites offering up all manner of lotions, potions, advice and cures in order to allow people to 'ascend' or 'survive' - depending on your worldview.

I don't say this is right for everyone, but as mentioned before, I've had to unpack a messy rucksack and to restore it I had to clean up my gear. At the moment I'm aware that some of that gear isn't as lustrous as it might be so it's a work in progress. Having read the back of all the 'lotions and potions' I felt that the important thing for me is to make sure that my cleaning-up program is authentic - that is, that whatever I do in respect of STO is genuine and not springing from an idea of 'graduating'. If I don't make the grade then I quite accept that I haven't cleaned up my gear this time round. As it's all a learning process, that has to be the right outcome for me as opposed to a 'failure'.

This feeling might well arise from my life's experience, though. Since I was six I sought 'God'. Not coming from a remotely religious family this resulted in a pair of bemused and bewildered - although very tolerant - parents who couldn't quite figure out what they'd created here I spent years investigating so many religions and the one thing that used to puzzle me was a sort of mis-match between authenticity and the belief in how it is arrived at. For example, a Catholic may sin merrily away through the week but a trip to the confessional puts it all right and the sinner is free to rinse and repeat.
Didn't seem terribly authentic to me. Although I understand the pyschological underpinnings of this particular act of faith.

There seemed no point in attending a religious service because the Boss is watching - you must surely want to be there for reasons other than gaining a Brownie point? There seemed no point in giving to charity unless your heart has compassion in it for its cause rather than wondering if again, the Boss has His pencil poised to pop a tick next to your name.

All these things seemed to be something you must genuinely want to do out of compassion rather than to make the grade.

For me it was in the questioning of my own authenticity that I found the only genuine way forward. If I didn't want to be kind or charitable on a given occasion, why was that? Were were my uncharitable thoughts stemming from? If I couldn't see a charitable side in me at that moment in time, I didn't submerge it in denial but accepted it with all the discomforts it brought, adding it to the potentials in the rucksack. And if I was being charitable or kind, was this truly from the heart or out of a sense of 'must do'? I felt that I made progress when I questioned my motivation.

I know it sounds as if I spent - or spend - an awful lot of time navel-gazing or lost in self-absorption, but that wasn't really the case. I only needed to clean a bit of the muck off to see the underlying article

[Magamud]

2012 great harvest is a counter intelligence plan to keep people distracted and create hope/savior motivation. Its also part of the foundations of the New World religion for the future.

[micjer]

Originally Posted by Magamud

2012 great harvest is a counter intelligence plan to keep people distracted and create hope/savior motivation. Its also part of the foundations of the New World religion for the future.

For clarification do you feel that David Wilcock, Dannion Brinkley, David Icke and the likes are working for the NWO to distract us. They all speak of Oneness and going inward for answers. Do you feel they are all spouting off to mislead us.

I do not feel the Mayan, Hopi's and others that speak of the harvest work for the new world religious group.

sorry if I have missed something.

[recallone]

Originally Posted by Magamud

2012 great harvest is a counter intelligence plan to keep people distracted and create hope/savior motivation. Its also part of the foundations of the New World religion for the future.

I agree.
As I mentioned previously in this thread, too much of the foundation that's sited as fact is quite simply - flawed.