The Goodbye Thread / Options To stay

[slywinkl]

ok, ground crew is uss, its one and all, its not one single HU-Man that aint the ground crew, just becouse of the simple reson IF something triggers this planet. like goverment, elites, planet x, meteorites, and alien income, then we ALL are inn the gameplay, not just you that are supposedly "above" uss in the chain, that is how u are speaking now, all those who spark an conversation in the forums sparks someone else, if its childish, then someone will anwser that it is childis, and some other will say its a beutiful thought, and mby even someone goes and research whats said, and wups its usefull information for all.

you sais
"But I personally feel we can do without, and thrive in the absence of whiney babies, who've never conceived of doing anything for anyone else, who think everything should be free to them, even if it costs someone else."

that is a sentence one step from wanting to be a dictator, and take away ppl's freedom and free word. u want to shut them upp so your bvelif system comes into play

so your buring the old world u say, or "paradigm" so that meens ur thinkin yourself higher than others that dont know of this, or belive what u belive. hmm sounds more like goverment thinking joined with religion to me. but hey what do i kno, i am under u in the "food chain" soo i should shut upp, huh?

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by slywinkl

ok, ground crew is uss, its one and all, its not one single HU-Man that aint the ground crew, just becouse of the simple reson IF something triggers this planet. like goverment, elites, planet x, meteorites, and alien income, then we ALL are inn the gameplay, not just you that are supposedly "above" uss in the chain, that is how u are speaking now, all those who spark an conversation in the forums sparks someone else, if its childish, then someone will anwser that it is childis, and some other will say its a beutiful thought, and mby even someone goes and research whats said, and wups its usefull information for all.

you sais
"But I personally feel we can do without, and thrive in the absence of whiney babies, who've never conceived of doing anything for anyone else, who think everything should be free to them, even if it costs someone else."

that is a sentence one step from wanting to be a dictator, and take away ppl's freedom and free word. u want to shut them upp so your bvelif system comes into play

so your buring the old world u say, or "paradigm" so that meens ur thinkin yourself higher than others that dont know of this, or belive what u belive. hmm sounds more like goverment thinking joined with religion to me. but hey what do i kno, i am under u in the "food chain" soo i should shut upp, huh?

Ground crew is working in advance of anything that might be coming our way. Not waiting to be in the same boat as everyone else.

There has to be someone there, ready with the solutions, prepared for the eventualities that may come up.

That's what the ground crew is. That's who this place is in support of. IMO.

Nobody's pretending to be any better than anyone else. Nobody is any better than anyone else. It would just be nice to get on with the work at hand without all the distractions.

It seems likely that much infrastructure we now depend on may be going away. If that happens, there will need to be people who are prepared.

[slywinkl]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

Ground crew is working in advance of anything that might be coming our way. Not waiting to be in the same boat as everyone else.

There has to be someone there, ready with the solutions, prepared for the eventualities that may come up.

That's what the ground crew is. That's who this place is in support of. IMO.

Nobody's pretending to be any better than anyone else. Nobody is any better than anyone else. It would just be nice to get on with the work at hand without all the distractions.

It seems likely that much infrastructure we now depend on may be going away. If that happens, there will need to be people who are prepared.

what are you saying? so a unknowing farmer that is left after, uhhm lets say a meteorite, hes not in the ground crew becouse he is unknowable of WHY it happened, and might come after? hes now in the ground crew? what? he can give uss food, and learn uss to farm and support our lives! even if he is simple minded hes in the ground crew, wether u like it or not

[slywinkl]

hehe pressed to soon, hes in the ground crew becouse he is alreddy prepared.

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by slywinkl

what are you saying? so a unknowing farmer that is left after, uhhm lets say a meteorite, hes not in the ground crew becouse he is unknowable of WHY it happened, and might come after? hes now in the ground crew? what? he can give uss food, and learn uss to farm and support our lives! even if he is simple minded hes in the ground crew, wether u like it or not

The farmer may or may not be. depends on his intention. Ground Crew is defined in George Greens Books. Have you read them?

[slywinkl]

Originally Posted by bhoss

I don't understand when you say free ride Myplanet2? Help me here!!! The people contributing in these forums are not getting anything out of this! They are charging money for other people's research and work. If they want to be fair then every dollar that is given to this forum let them split it up with those here that are drawing the crowds so they can benefit from this as well. I am not talking about those that draw crowds through fear either.

Peace Brian

exactly, all are opening upp someones mind at some time, and its from everyone. its so true, we should then pay all who writes here, and puts in time and effort to get info and pictures to post here to wake ppl upp

[norman]

I'm convinced there is no cerebral truth that's going to resolve this. None of us are right. For 2 days I've had this issue burning me up. I so much want an outcome to this that exceeds all our expectations.

The axe is going to fall soon and a decision be ruled. I have many times been blown around by different arguments on this thread and believed I was watching a war break out. Actually, it's mostly aliveness and passion that's broken out here and it's wonderful. People are starting to put themselves on the line in front of each other.

It's an exchange of energies and an intimacy amongst a people who are on the whole, by reason of simply being here at this time gathered around Bill and Kerry's creation, are ready to reach for another level of intimacy. A 'no hiding places' common intimacy. It's what aliveness is.

My sadness is in predicting that when that axe has fallen, when the immediate solution has been ruled, we will all go back to a cerebral sleep only vaguely aware and trying to intelligently guess 'truths' again.

Yesterday I tried really hard to put myself in Bill's position and to see all this from his perspective. The conclusion I came to was that he in particular, but it possibly includes Kerry also, intended to have a fairly cosy little ground crew forum. Nothing wrong with that. As I see it, they don't want another ATS. Massive traffic and advertising is not what they feel they created this for. If I'm correct about that, I agree.

If you read all Bill's posts it's very clear that he is a 'genuine' guy with a quiet controlled manner. He's spent most of his money on this. He's not a bread head. Zorgon cracked his 'cool' precisely because of that.

I admire Bill's personal sojourn. I'm even willing to do what I can to care for him. My problem with that is that I don't share his apparent instincts about a couple of his closest Camelot friends or guides. Not wanting to alienate myself, I've never been able to just 'spit it out'. Many people here have said things that have echoed my feelings in this regard but have been banned or have become otherwise disinterested in contributing to the heart of this group or ground crew or whatever you want to call it.

This current issue that is sparking people up from all directions is telling us the way to go. It's screaming obvious. I'd love to be wrong about this, but I don't think Ryan, Cassidy, StClair or Wilcock or even all of them together could handle the size and acceleration of this huge thing that it is, without first cooling it off again. I know I couldn't and I am one who would very much like to keep it going as it is going.

I say drop the axe and go ahead and do it. Bring Avalon down to size. Get comfortable with it but don't forget what began to happen here and try to return to it. Even if the worst happens and it becomes a cult-like beast, disappearing up it's own time line, it will at least have been a precious lighthouse that kept a lot of people away from the rocks beneath it.


My 2 cents worth.

[Avid]

Can't afford a subscription as on a tiny pension (early retired), haven't read all the thread, but the title suffices. I'll be very sad not to be able to take part any more.

Originally Posted by Avid

Can't afford a subscription as on a tiny pension (early retired), haven't read all the thread, but the title suffices. I'll be very sad not to be able to take part any more.

Send your name to a mod for inclusion on the gifting list.

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by bhoss

I have read some of George Green's books but that don't mean I accept the information in them. Everything which we seek can be found within us gave to us freely by our Mother. The word "Groundcrew" has been given a certain talisman energy given to it at this forum. What comes to mind when someone says Groundcrew to everyone here? What are they really trying to say with calling everyone groundcrew? I am a member of Earth by means of incarnating in a body provided by her. I will do her service now in anything she ask. Groundcrew!! Goodness!! I came to these forums reading and seeking information that its members have freely gave. Wow what special people came here and exchanged ideas and shared themselves with us in ways we never knew existed. It is sad the decision they have made will provoke these people to leave.

I don't understand when you say free ride Myplanet2? Help me here!!! The people contributing in these forums are not getting anything out of this! They are charging money for other people's research and work. If they want to be fair then every dollar that is given to this forum let them split it up with those here that are drawing the crowds so they can benefit from this as well. I am not talking about those that draw crowds through fear either.

Peace Brian

Nobody is planning on charging for anybody elses work. The idea is to pay a monthly or annual subscription fee to participate here. Not for information. The information is and stays free. anyone can come anytime, and read everything on the open forum. Rather it is for the expressed purpose of supporting Bill and Kerry in their work. That's all. If they are not supported in their work now, the work can't go on.

the place was created in support of Bill and Kerry's work, and as a place where Ground Crew can find others of like mind who want to share information and to create networks and form communities.

I might add. Bill and Kerry have both said this is the last thing they want to do. There just is no choice. If you want to stop subscription, make it unnecessary. Right now it is vitally necessary.

[slywinkl]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

Nobody is planning on charging for anybody elses work. The idea is to pay a monthly or annual subscription fee to participate here. Not for information. The information is and stays free. anyone can come anytime, and read everything on the open forum. Rather it is for the expressed purpose of supporting Bill and Kerry in their work. That's all. If they are not supported in their work now, the work can't go on.

the place was created in support of Bill and Kerry's work, and as a place where Ground Crew can find others of like mind who want to share information and to create networks and form communities.

its not mainly for bill and kerry this, in muy understanding it was for the ground crew, i thought that was all.

as for the information, how is that gonna appear if like lets say first u loose 30% of the ppl who gets the information now here when they are on a wake upp time in their life and wanna share what they have discovered, but havent got the cash to "open their mouth" ?