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Old 11-06-2008, 01:07 AM   #1
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There are two paths that a person may take when embarking on the evolution of their soul. Although this evolution is a natural process and will inevitibly although at times slowly go ahead unaided, it is possible to hasten this evolution in one of two directions.

Service to self ;

Service to self entities focus primarily on their own needs and desires. And as with service to others orientated people there is a place for them in the next evolutionary cycle. One example of a species who are primarily 'service to self' are the Reptilian 'Humanoid' species who reside in the constelation of Alpha Draconis in the Orion group. To the best of human knowledge their origins are at this time unknown.

What you are promoting in this message Deoxyan, just in case you and your audience are unaware, is the 'Service to Self' path. The walking of this path is purely preferential to the person at hand. Although it is not sure if a person may change lanes so to speak once this path is embarked upon.

Both paths are completely viable options and are purely dependent on the persons spiritual disposition.

The other path is of course the Service to Others path, and as it is not the subject matter i wont go into it here.


And i would also like to make a little note on the EGO. There are some researchers who speculate that the egotistical mindset is only a recent phenomina. During the last magnetic polar shift there was also a shift in the magnetic field of the conciousness of human beings which caused them to loose touch with their spiritual essence. The state that followed and remains to this day is what we now commonly refer to as the ego.

Although the ego may seem like a necessary adaptation in our world today it is not possible to harness the full potential of the human mind whilst the ego still 'runs the show'.

The great pyramids were not built using the 'ego'. Or as i like to call it, the 'eternally gratefull opressor'

There is much more to be learned outside the confines of the ego then our minds are fully able to grasp whilst still under its influence.

im doing here service to self and to others at the same time, wich you dont see. But, WHO cares about that, it´s irrelevant i think.

When you try to define me, encapsulate me that overtly reductionistic and simple way, what you are executing is disempowering techniques. In the case i had fallen and took you seriously, you will have had the primary responsability of disempowering someone, and me, the second of being so innocent to take you seriously. Don´t worry, that is not gonna happen.

where is the sense of learning if its not to feed the ego?: nowhere.

The ego must and always runs the show to avoid you to loose the coordinates from where you perceive human experience. That is the function of the ego, dimensional coordinates. Wich, usually are break down by mystical experiences or entheogens. As far as u feel the need to change because you feel insatisfaction where you are (remember), you feed your ego with the proper learning to change dimensionally. As long as you are satisfied with your present situation evolution ceases to exist.

The ego exists for a good purpose: to avoid you to lose your mind. To avoid the abandonment of the sense of reality under the condition in wich you body was born.

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Old 11-06-2008, 01:36 AM   #2
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When you try to define me, encapsulate me that way, what you are executing is disempowering techniques
If that is what you think he is doing, and I'm not saying that he is or isn't, surely he can only succeed if you let him?

We are all sovreign individuals, with creative ability and free-will. Put us all together, light the blue touch paper, retire and watch the fireworks.

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Old 11-06-2008, 01:46 AM   #3
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If that is what you think he is doing, and I'm not saying that he is or isn't, surely he can only succeed if you let him?

We are all sovreign individuals, with creative ability and free-will. Put us all together, light the blue touch paper, retire and watch the fireworks.

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yeah anchor, but you wrote a reply too fast without reading all that i have said in the response.....
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Old 11-06-2008, 01:20 PM   #4
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im doing here service to self and to others at the same time, wich you dont see. But, WHO cares about that, it´s irrelevant i think.
If you think so.


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When you try to define me, encapsulate me that overtly reductionistic and simple way, what you are executing is disempowering techniques.
This was not what i was doing at all. I was making an observation on the material you posted, not attempting to define you. This would be impossible considering that i dont know you enough to do so.

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In the case i had fallen and took you seriously, you will have had the primary responsability of disempowering someone, and me, the second of being so innocent to take you seriously. Don´t worry, that is not gonna happen.
In the case that you might reread what i have said and maybe understand it a little better you would realise that my statement was not in any way directed at you but was supposed to be a catalyst for communication.


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The ego exists for a good purpose: to avoid you to lose your mind. To avoid the abandonment of the sense of reality under the condition in wich you body was born.
The ego is simply a reflection of the outside world and in turn does not portray the true essence of a being. It is a collection of memories and experiences that have accumulated since birth which form the false self that we call the personality.
If the ego is removed we are left with the devine being which is our true self.

The ego is only able to percieve a false sense of reality because our egos senses are limited to sight, hearing, touch, taste and smell and as a result can only give us a very limited perception of the world around us. We are very limited at our ability to correctly define the world around us using the ego although it does a good job on certain aspects such as when we are crossing the road, our ego reminds us that there are cars which use this road, it then reminds us to listen, look left and look right before we may safely cross.
Without the ego we do not need to look left and right, we simply know if it is safe to cross because we are in tune with the world, in tune with the one energetic vibration which connects us all.

The ego seperates. We are by our very essence all connected which automatically makes the ego a false concept and a false sense of reality.
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Old 11-06-2008, 01:51 PM   #5
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I understand fully what you say, the difficulty here seems that love has been interpreted (or utilized by the leaders) as "sentimental love"...conditional love...

Love is not sentimental nor coodependant love just is unconditional.

Unconditional means "without conditions"

Same can be applied to sympathy...most of the charitable work gets done out of pitty and the "guilt" people feel that they are better off than others; the root of the problem is in the inequality of the economic system and charities are solely the "band aid" that help us sleep at night if we live in a 1st world country.

Compassion on the other hand is giving to others what they need, even if it is a though lessons, not what we want to give to make us feel better.

This is and extract from http://www.kindnet.co.uk/articles/un...onal_love.html

Unconditional Love

We all dream of it, novels, songs and plays have been written about it and yet nobody can give you a straight definition of what it is and how you can recognize it.

Unconditional love is a vibration that resonates all throught the cosmos, the creation, our universe and all universes. It is GOD or All that Is. It is the raw material of EVERYTHING that exists, existed and will exist.

Unconditional love is the malleable force behind every particle; it extends from the smallest to the biggest.

The air around you is filled with unconditional love, which is one of the ways GOD is everywhere inside and outside you. Try some conscious breathing when you feel sad and lonely and experience the miracle by yourself.

Every particle, atom, cell in your physical body is filled with the vibration of unconditional love. And what can be more unconditional than that, cells work for us, keep our body together and we never say thanks do we? Think about your cells and get to know them and share their love. It is truly a very moving experience.

Unconditional love is what your soul gives you liberally when you finally decide to go inwards and work with it. And gosh, it is so incredible, so beautiful and so indescribable! It is a kind of feeling that when you have felt it once you have to have more and you find out that nothing in this planet of illusion can really measure up to that.

And the love of the Masters, like Lord Sananda, Lady Nada and the Divine Mother. A vibration of true ecstasy that will lift you to the light just by calling their names.

(Try saying Sananda, Sananda, Sananda....etc. it really works!)

We can not “fall in love” we are love, we just need to accept that and look for it in the temple of our own hearts where all that the universe is resides in potential.

You will say that is unattainable but it is not true. It takes work and commitment to rid yourself of the darkness within, and work integrating the personality as we have explained before, and surrendering to your real master, your beautiful and immortal soul.

Once you are prepared to let go of the illusion and pain of this world, it is really easy if you follow the advice we are giving to you. Try it, experiment, be an explorer of the inner planes. The rewards are worth a king’s ransom.
xxxxx

Love
i have said earlier in this thread how to feel permanently unconditional love towards everything, seems u haven´t catch it. Though, that feeling never makes your life an eternal bliss. A hardcore experiencer of that tells you this.

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The ego is simply a reflection of the outside world and in turn does not portray the true essence of a being. It is a collection of memories and experiences that have accumulated since birth which form the false self that we call the personality.
If the ego is removed we are left with the devine being which is our true self.

The ego is only able to percieve a false sense of reality because our egos senses are limited to sight, hearing, touch, taste and smell and as a result can only give us a very limited perception of the world around us. We are very limited at our ability to correctly define the world around us using the ego although it does a good job on certain aspects such as when we are crossing the road, our ego reminds us that there are cars which use this road, it then reminds us to listen, look left and look right before we may safely cross.
Without the ego we do not need to look left and right, we simply know if it is safe to cross because we are in tune with the world, in tune with the one energetic vibration which connects us all.

The ego seperates. We are by our very essence all connected which automatically makes the ego a false concept and a false sense of reality.
The ego is a tool wich you can use to travel dimensionally, that´s all. The point here is not to attach youself to the pleasures of knowing, the supposed true essence of a-our being, i think it´s because you cannot know what cannot be known, and that is our truest essence: infinity. Again and again, i say the same thing over and over.

There is not a false or true sense of reality, there is only your perception of it.... wich is indeed real, as everyone is no matter what. You can accept relativity because is a fact. Perceptions are perceptions, they are real as they are processed by the brain, what you could see them as not real is because you try to put them under a context wich is not their own so they are out of place then they are unreal to that one.

Comparing ourselves to a painting, the true self would be a white unpainted thing, the ego makes the beautiful painting. If you don´t like you ego, try to fix it, but dont blame it of your bad life experiences, that´s irresponsible and a set of excuses wich makes you powerless everytime you use them.

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