I didn't know it would be such a hard job

karmakah · 10-30-2008, 10:11 PM

Burgundia...
Regarding your first post- I understand your frustration completely. I wonder how I would've reacted, though, if I were one of the sleep walking folk who was approached by one of us 'awakened' folk with the ideas, thoughts, and knowledge we have most likely acquired on our own. I think I would be hard to shake as well. I wonder if for most people, it needs to be a personal disclosure, enlightenment, and awareness. So you can absorb anything and everything at your own pace. I'm not sure I'd be where I am today if I had someone urging me to 'check out this n' that.' I approached it when I was 'ready' subconsciously. So now, I find I have to bite my tongue when I start to make others aware of the real world (universe, even) and simply just drop casual hints instead. It's really frustrating though!! Because I truly want to shout it from the rooftops!!

micjer · 10-30-2008, 10:46 PM

Karmakah,

You are right it is extemely frustrating.

We had an all candidates meeting here recently and someone did get up and started yelling that 9-11 was an inside job and masons are going to take over the world. He went on about other issues. Unfortunately it only caused a scene and now everyone thinks he's out of it.

The worst thing is that it makes it harder to talk about these things to those that were there or heard the story. They'd think I'm crazy like him.

Tuza,

Just hang in there!

He says that now, but when the ---- hits the fan. Who will be apologizing then. He will be very thankfull that he married you.

bill7907 · 10-31-2008, 03:03 AM

Yes it's very hard to convert skeptics to believe in what the worldwide governments are hiding ; it hardly ever works so to speak.

Also, I found that a lot of people who don't believe in Extraterrestrials have a very distinctive way of thinking that goes like this:

They do not want to believe what the Government is telling them because apparently everything coming from the Government is considered a lie.
At this point, those people fall in their own trap and stay blindly in that state of mind by saying that if the Governments are starting to talk more about Aliens and all subjects related to that aspect, it's because it's a lie also.
So to them, Extraterrestrials are also a lie because it comes from the same source ; the government.

Basically they cannot discern that a fraction of the government is trying to put an end and open Pandora's box.

I just want to tell you that once one of our teachers at College/University said in front of the class that some people are lost in their conspiracies, and he took the example of the 9-11 event to ridicule how some people thought that the government made it on themselves. He thinks that the idea is a "joke".

Sad...if he knew he was ridiculing what really hapenned...
Anyhow, the Governments need people like this ; they feed off the stupidity of the sheep.

Glad we are awaken.

Swanny · 10-31-2008, 09:41 AM

I was speaking to a chap the other day and was telling him about aspartame and how bad it was, he was happy to learn this, the I mentioned I had been reading about all sorts of stuff on the net, I mentioned conspiracy ideas and he got really angry, not with me but with the idea that people believe 911 was anything other than a terrorist attack. I changed the subject as it was obvious that he needs more sleep

warngen · 10-31-2008, 09:43 AM

I sopke to a few marines about 9-11 being an inside job. They looked at me as if I had burned the flag right in front of them! I had to get my ox out of the ditch!

micjer · 10-31-2008, 12:47 PM

Swanney,

Speaking of aspartame I don't know if there is anything to it or not but I have found that people who drink a lot of diet pop and chew sugar free gum are harder to talk to about things. We have a few friends that drink a lot of it and we find this wall. We have given them documents on aspartame and have had no results. They don't seem to be interested in other conspiracy either. Yet our other friends who agree aspartame is bad are a lot more open and we have made in roads with them.

There are no coincidences.

bill7907 · 10-31-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by micjer

Swanney,

Speaking of aspartame I don't know if there is anything to it or not but I have found that people who drink a lot of diet pop and chew sugar free gum are harder to talk to about things. We have a few friends that drink a lot of it and we find this wall. We have given them documents on aspartame and have had no results. They don't seem to be interested in other conspiracy either. Yet our other friends who agree aspartame is bad are a lot more open and we have made in roads with them.

There are no coincidences.

The study should be done on a wide spectrum and tragetting diffferent category of ages, like that you will have a better idea if does have an effect.

burgundia · 10-31-2008, 01:03 PM

One of you mentioned that you just give other people hints. that's the best method. To evoke their curosity. i speak about these things in a matter-of-factly manner and i don't give them all the information. In fact I tell them that maybe later I'll tell them more but first they have to do their "homework". And then they can't wait for more. So far it has been working well.

10-30-2008, 10:11 PM	#1
karmakah Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Outside of Worcester, MA Posts: 32	Re: I didn't know it would be such a hard job Burgundia... Regarding your first post- I understand your frustration completely. I wonder how I would've reacted, though, if I were one of the sleep walking folk who was approached by one of us 'awakened' folk with the ideas, thoughts, and knowledge we have most likely acquired on our own. I think I would be hard to shake as well. I wonder if for most people, it needs to be a personal disclosure, enlightenment, and awareness. So you can absorb anything and everything at your own pace. I'm not sure I'd be where I am today if I had someone urging me to 'check out this n' that.' I approached it when I was 'ready' subconsciously. So now, I find I have to bite my tongue when I start to make others aware of the real world (universe, even) and simply just drop casual hints instead. It's really frustrating though!! Because I truly want to shout it from the rooftops!!

10-30-2008, 10:46 PM	#2
micjer Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ont. CANADA Posts: 1,043	Re: I didn't know it would be such a hard job Karmakah, You are right it is extemely frustrating. We had an all candidates meeting here recently and someone did get up and started yelling that 9-11 was an inside job and masons are going to take over the world. He went on about other issues. Unfortunately it only caused a scene and now everyone thinks he's out of it. The worst thing is that it makes it harder to talk about these things to those that were there or heard the story. They'd think I'm crazy like him. Tuza, Just hang in there! He says that now, but when the ---- hits the fan. Who will be apologizing then. He will be very thankfull that he married you.

10-31-2008, 03:03 AM	#3
bill7907 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 115	Re: I didn't know it would be such a hard job Yes it's very hard to convert skeptics to believe in what the worldwide governments are hiding ; it hardly ever works so to speak. Also, I found that a lot of people who don't believe in Extraterrestrials have a very distinctive way of thinking that goes like this: They do not want to believe what the Government is telling them because apparently everything coming from the Government is considered a lie. At this point, those people fall in their own trap and stay blindly in that state of mind by saying that if the Governments are starting to talk more about Aliens and all subjects related to that aspect, it's because it's a lie also. So to them, Extraterrestrials are also a lie because it comes from the same source ; the government. Basically they cannot discern that a fraction of the government is trying to put an end and open Pandora's box. I just want to tell you that once one of our teachers at College/University said in front of the class that some people are lost in their conspiracies, and he took the example of the 9-11 event to ridicule how some people thought that the government made it on themselves. He thinks that the idea is a "joke". Sad...if he knew he was ridiculing what really hapenned... Anyhow, the Governments need people like this ; they feed off the stupidity of the sheep. Glad we are awaken.

10-31-2008, 09:41 AM	#4
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: I didn't know it would be such a hard job I was speaking to a chap the other day and was telling him about aspartame and how bad it was, he was happy to learn this, the I mentioned I had been reading about all sorts of stuff on the net, I mentioned conspiracy ideas and he got really angry, not with me but with the idea that people believe 911 was anything other than a terrorist attack. I changed the subject as it was obvious that he needs more sleep

10-31-2008, 09:43 AM	#5
warngen Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Mississippi Posts: 92	Re: I didn't know it would be such a hard job I sopke to a few marines about 9-11 being an inside job. They looked at me as if I had burned the flag right in front of them! I had to get my ox out of the ditch!

10-31-2008, 12:47 PM	#6
micjer Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ont. CANADA Posts: 1,043	Re: I didn't know it would be such a hard job Swanney, Speaking of aspartame I don't know if there is anything to it or not but I have found that people who drink a lot of diet pop and chew sugar free gum are harder to talk to about things. We have a few friends that drink a lot of it and we find this wall. We have given them documents on aspartame and have had no results. They don't seem to be interested in other conspiracy either. Yet our other friends who agree aspartame is bad are a lot more open and we have made in roads with them. There are no coincidences.

10-31-2008, 01:03 PM	#8
burgundia Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Poland Posts: 3,442	Re: I didn't know it would be such a hard job One of you mentioned that you just give other people hints. that's the best method. To evoke their curosity. i speak about these things in a matter-of-factly manner and i don't give them all the information. In fact I tell them that maybe later I'll tell them more but first they have to do their "homework". And then they can't wait for more. So far it has been working well.