Barak Obama - the new president of USA - Good-bye America

[PodWORLD]

Your right Frank but it's the 'Hussein' garbage as if someone with that name is automatically a terrorist. It's this sort of despicable nonsense that gets a Brazilian hairdresser executed on the streets of London and noone cares.

By all means dislike Obama the man or his policies but this fear of the black candidate, reprising Willie Horton ****? Bin.

[371]

I think that if Obama is half the phony he is made out to be, he would've changed his name back to Barry Soerto or whatever before he got into politics. Don't get me wrong, he IS a phony, he IS a politician after all... they all are, if fact I think it's a prerequisite.

But at least he has the balls to run for president and right now looks like he's winning in SPITE of his highly-ethnic name. That really says something.... to me anyway.

[sammytray]

Originally Posted by 371

I think that if Obama is half the phony he is made out to be, he would've changed his name back to Barry Soerto or whatever before he got into politics. Don't get me wrong, he IS a phony, he IS a politician after all... they all are, if fact I think it's a prerequisite.

But at least he has the balls to run for president and right now looks like he's winning in SPITE of his highly-ethnic name. That really says something.... to me anyway.

hmmmm whats that say to you?? He's winning?? These people are puppets! Used and abused for a higher agenda... Obama, Mccain, Palin, Biden, Bush, on and on and on. They are being deceived and the ones deceiving them are being deceived and the ones... you get the point

Bring on the "New Paradigm"! who ra!

[Anticomuna]

Originally Posted by PodWORLD

By all means dislike Obama the man or his policies but this fear of the black candidate, reprising Willie Horton ****? Bin.

Oh, finally, the race card. It was taking too long.

This has nothing with race. The guy is a liar and a socialist who flirts with ideologies that have proven to be horrible to mankind.

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by Anticomuna

Oh, finally, the race card. It was taking too long.

This has nothing with race. The guy is a liar and a socialist who flirts with ideologies that have proven to be horrible to mankind.

The race card? Oh right, another term coined by White Republicans that think that racism no longer matters in this country.

And we've seen what 8 years of Republican rule can do to this country. I'd take a socialist over another idiot like McCain.

[Anticomuna]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

I'd take a socialist over another idiot like McCain.

Someone needs to attend to history classes.

[sebring1963]

Originally Posted by Anticomuna

Oh, finally, the race card. It was taking too long.

This has nothing with race. The guy is a liar and a socialist who flirts with ideologies that have proven to be horrible to mankind.

Absolutely correct... well almost
It has nothing to do with race. The Republican neo-conservatives hijacked the Republican Party who flirt with ideologies that have proven to be horrible to mankind.

And as you have admitted in other posts that Fox News is the only sourse of news you can tolerate, time for some news education to add to your tool box and the idoligies you hold so dear. and if you pay attention for extra credit what party, moreover Sir, what country does this sound like now?


14 POINTS OF FASCISM

1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism - From the prominent displays of flags and bunting to the ubiquitous lapel pins, the fervor to show patriotic nationalism, both on the part of the regime itself and of citizens caught up in its frenzy, was always obvious. Catchy slogans, pride in the military, and demands for unity were common themes in expressing this nationalism. It was usually coupled with a suspicion of things foreign that often bordered on xenophobia.

2. Disdain for the importance of human rights - The regimes themselves viewed human rights as of little value and a hindrance to realizing the objectives of the ruling elite. Through clever use of propaganda, the population was brought to accept these human rights abuses by marginalizing, even demonizing, those being targeted. When abuse was egregious, the tactic was to use secrecy, denial, and disinformation.

3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause - The most significant common thread among these regimes was the use of scapegoating as a means to divert the people’s attention from other problems, to shift blame for failures, and to channel frustration in controlled directions. The methods of choice—relentless propaganda and disinformation—were usually effective. Often the regimes would incite “spontaneous” acts against the target scapegoats, usually communists, socialists, liberals, Jews, ethnic and racial minorities, traditional national enemies, members of other religions, secularists, homosexuals, and “terrorists.” Active opponents of these regimes were inevitably labeled as terrorists and dealt with accordingly.

4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism - Ruling elites always identified closely with the military and the industrial infrastructure that supported it. A disproportionate share of national resources was allocated to the military, even when domestic needs were acute. The military was seen as an expression of nationalism, and was used whenever possible to assert national goals, intimidate other nations, and increase the power and prestige of the ruling elite.

5. Rampant sexism - Beyond the simple fact that the political elite and the national culture were male-dominated, these regimes inevitably viewed women as second-class citizens. They were adamantly anti-abortion and also homophobic. These attitudes were usually codified in Draconian laws that enjoyed strong support by the orthodox religion of the country, thus lending the regime cover for its abuses.

6. A controlled mass media - Under some of the regimes, the mass media were under strict direct control and could be relied upon never to stray from the party line. Other regimes exercised more subtle power to ensure media orthodoxy. Methods included the control of licensing and access to resources, economic pressure, appeals to patriotism, and implied threats. The leaders of the mass media were often politically compatible with the power elite. The result was usually success in keeping the general public unaware of the regimes’ excesses.

7. Obsession with national security - Inevitably, a national security apparatus was under direct control of the ruling elite. It was usually an instrument of oppression, operating in secret and beyond any constraints. Its actions were justified under the rubric of protecting “national security,” and questioning its activities was portrayed as unpatriotic or even treasonous.

8. Religion and ruling elite tied together - Unlike communist regimes, the fascist and protofascist regimes were never proclaimed as godless by their opponents. In fact, most of the regimes attached themselves to the predominant religion of the country and chose to portray themselves as militant defenders of that religion. The fact that the ruling elite’s behavior was incompatible with the precepts of the religion was generally swept under the rug. Propaganda kept up the illusion that the ruling elites were defenders of the faith and opponents of the “godless.” A perception was manufactured that opposing the power elite was tantamount to an attack on religion.

9. Power of corporations protected - Although the personal life of ordinary citizens was under strict control, the ability of large corporations to operate in relative freedom was not compromised. The ruling elite saw the corporate structure as a way to not only ensure military production (in developed states), but also as an additional means of social control. Members of the economic elite were often pampered by the political elite to ensure a continued mutuality of interests, especially in the repression of “have-not” citizens.

10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated - Since organized labor was seen as the one power center that could challenge the political hegemony of the ruling elite and its corporate allies, it was inevitably crushed or made powerless. The poor formed an underclass, viewed with suspicion or outright contempt. Under some regimes, being poor was considered akin to a vice.

11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts - Intellectuals and the inherent freedom of ideas and expression associated with them were anathema to these regimes. Intellectual and academic freedom were considered subversive to national security and the patriotic ideal. Universities were tightly controlled; politically unreliable faculty harassed or eliminated. Unorthodox ideas or expressions of dissent were strongly attacked, silenced, or crushed. To these regimes, art and literature should serve the national interest or they had no right to exist.

12. Obsession with crime and punishment - Most of these regimes maintained Draconian systems of criminal justice with huge prison populations. The police were often glorified and had almost unchecked power, leading to rampant abuse. “Normal” and political crime were often merged into trumped-up criminal charges and sometimes used against political opponents of the regime. Fear, and hatred, of criminals or “traitors” was often promoted among the population as an excuse for more police power.

13. Rampant cronyism and corruption - Those in business circles and close to the power elite often used their position to enrich themselves. This corruption worked both ways; the power elite would receive financial gifts and property from the economic elite, who in turn would gain the benefit of government favoritism. Members of the power elite were in a position to obtain vast wealth from other sources as well: for example, by stealing national resources. With the national security apparatus under control and the media muzzled, this corruption was largely unconstrained and not well understood by the general population.

14. Fraudulent elections - Elections in the form of plebiscites or public opinion polls were usually bogus. When actual elections with candidates were held, they would usually be perverted by the power elite to get the desired result. Common methods included maintaining control of the election machinery, intimidating and disenfranchising opposition voters, destroying or disallowing legal votes, and, as a last resort, turning to a judiciary beholden to the power elite.

NOTE: The above 14 Points was written in 2004 by Dr. Laurence Britt, a political scientist. Dr. Britt studied the fascist regimes of: Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile).

[RSF]

You'll have kids?, vote Obama. Not going to write some cheap opinion. Just going to let you know as a neighbor I do have kids.

Worried about Skin Colour?, -- very well. Concerned about our future?, -- so am I. He fails to mention it but I feel he believes in toning down world aggression through dialogue then, if necessary action.

Seems to me, when you hold all the offensive horsepower, you can afford the leisure of taking a peek first before committing defensive aggression -- yes?

Senator Obama may make mistakes, however I feel, Senator Obama's in this thing to help and not to hurt Peoples of the USA or Peoples of this World.
We all have to live on this ball -- you-know.

RSF

[Anticomuna]

Originally Posted by sebring1963

Absolutely correct... well almost
It has nothing to do with race. The Republican neo-conservatives hijacked the Republican Party who flirt with ideologies that have proven to be horrible to mankind.

Really? If the current American government is so "fascist", then why does it allow the press to do this?

http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=6099188

National Socialism wasn's called Socialism for no reason. The socialist dictatorships killed more than anything else. And that's what Obama stands for. Not only socialism, but racism and one drop rule, as the world could see by his friend Reverend Wright.

Is your hate for Bush so great that it blinds you from the Obama lies and from the press one-sidedness?