So, is nibiru coming?

[odiseo]

Nice info zorgon , but i was talking that in 2012 not that nibiru or any other gloom and doom thing will happen , but maybe there will be some change let's say in the way we measure time , change of calendars i don't know. I mention that date because all the different infos related to 2012 but the ones that talks about change in consciousness, perception of time. It seem we will have to wait for the date to come.

[GoingToFast]

In what year are we really, Bob Dean mentioned that Jesus was born 7-years before the official year-0, and some people are talking about some English king who lived in the 1600´s who added ore tock away 6-years. It´s all wery confusing about which year we are actually living in.

Originally Posted by GoingToFast

It´s all wery confusing about which year we are actually living in.

Why is it confusing? We are living in 2008...Our calendar starts at a point in time based approximately on Jesuses birth as best as they could determine it. Most people know that he was not born Dec 25th... that date was picked because Pagans already celibrated the return of the sun after the equinox and was a convienient date picked, not an actual birth date...

So if Jesus can indeed be proven to have been born at a different time... our calendar still remains the same

No confusion... just another detail of History in error.

Now what happens if it turns out as many believe that there never was a "jesus" How does that work in the 2012 predictions?

[giaoue]

Originally Posted by GoingToFast

In what year are we really, Bob Dean mentioned that Jesus was born 7-years before the official year-0, and some people are talking about some English king who lived in the 1600´s who added ore tock away 6-years. It´s all wery confusing about which year we are actually living in.

Yes, I heard somewhere that around 300 AD Emperor Constantine conjured up our present day yearly timetable with the birth of Jesus to be year 1 AD but minused between 2-7 yrs. so if it were really 300 AD when this was created it was told throughout the land that it is 293 - 298 AD. So it is between 2006 to 2001 AD right now. As for the 12/21/2012 end of Mayan Calendar long-count that has nothing to do with the passing of Nibiru. The Mayan Calendar uses celestial constellations & the zodiacs to measure time thru astronomical pathways --- Precession of the Equinox. In other words, no matter what past rulers did to manipulate our present calendar it has no effect on this 12/21/2012 date due to the fact that there was no BC or AD when their Mayan Calendar was created over 5,000 years ago. That date is an event of alignment within our perception of duality called 3D or 3rd density/dimension which is going to have a subtle but instant change on that date which our entire universe is going to also experience that is truly happening gradually every moment of our most precious NOW! As for the Mayan Calendar, it was using 13 months with each month having 28 days which equals 364, which also goes with the moon cycles of every 28 days & so the extra day was added in to mess us all up & also made the leap year because each day is really 23 hrs. & 56 mins long. 4 mins. x 364 days = 1456/60 = 24.2666 hrs. Close enough to make an extra day that confuses our astronomical clock, go figure.


Now here is a very different perception to what Nibiru truly is thru a channeller & it kinda makes me think it's possible because I do know that our moon is also an artificial satellite brought here about 11,000 yrs ago from Ursa Minor that the greys needed for a base & so they hollowed it out. Check it out, this may be a way to help the worries of its passing. I just want people to realize no matter what, we all individually & collectively co-create our own realities so focus on total & unconditional LOVE & transform this FEAR into a simple acronym from a techno song that I enjoy listening to:
Fear by UNKLE - Forget Everything And Remember

http://www.nibiruancouncil.com/html/...ipnibiru.html#

We are all SELF (Something Everything Loves Forever) so look in the mirror & then envision that you are looking @ everything in a simultaneous linear timeline of past, present, & future but it's all in the moment of NOW!