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Anytime the word “miracle” is attached to anything my warning bells go off.
Also anything that you ingest that needs such intense careful dosing and that has such contraindications means there is high probability of harm. Everything in balance and wisdom. |
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Study what Chlorine Dioxide Ion is in depth and how it effects the body. Do not just reject it because you think it's risky. Understand it. Many did not believe the world was round either. So you are not alone. ![]() Peace, Ampgod |
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It is far from intense carefull dosing. You can take 3 drops of acid or 5 or 6, as long as it is enough to react. One drop or two drops of MMS more or less? No problem. And you have not seen 1 single contraindication posted anywhere. There is no probability of harm. Where and what have you been reading lately? Not this thread anyway. |
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Location: Kansas
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Peer,
I'm a medicinal herbalist and I become very concerned when people feel that "natural" things are okay to take and won't hurt you. Arsenic and hemlock are natural but I certainly would not suggest someone take it. Before you get your bloomers in a bunch I am not saying MMS is in the same catagory as arsenic. Yes I understand the benefits of MMS . . . . I just do not feel it is a miracle chemical. The fact that MMS has to be taken by carefully measured drops and ramping up or down means one has to be very careful in using this chemical. When you have to take into consideration someones weight and diet is very telling. I also would be very concerned where the different people are finding this product and how it is being produced or manufactured. I'm not sure about your comment about 2 or 3 drops of "acid" . Are you saying you would ingest something like Hydrochloric Acid and it would be fine if you only took 2 or 3 drops????? If so I rest my case. You stated there are no contraindications or anywhere in the thread that states there has been harm or problem. Well I suggest you read this thread again . . . carefully. Amgod was very clear saying several times that he has become ill . . . very ill using MMS. Myplanet2 states clearly that his wife became "violently ill" after using this product. The fact you have to avoid vitamin c or be careful with citric acid is a contraindication. You have to be careful and understand reactions with other drugs or medications with this type of chemical. For you to state there is no "probability of harm" is extremely dangerous. This type of product does detoxify very quickly and too quickly for some people with delicate or weak constitutions. It acts very aggressively in some cases . . . . which can be good or problematic. Someone asked about viruses . . . . if there is a virus that has been dormant like herpes or Epstein barr or Lymes disease and many others and it is deep in the liver and you take something like MMS or a “heroic” type herb you can activate that virus by trying to get rid of it and it comes back ten fold. I know what I’m talking about. I completely understand the benefits of natural herbs, tinctures, teas and minerals and have used them all my life (I’m 50). I would not be a herbalist if I didn’t. But I also understand fully the possibility of harm. All I’m saying is I feel to tout something as a “miracle” on a site such as this where many read it and take it for granted that because it is on PA then it must be safe and true is not being responsible. Like Swanny who asked if it would cure his friend who has diabetes. Yes Ampgod I agree that knowledge is power but it is what you do with that "power" that makes a massive difference. Knowlege is useless and dangerous without wisdom. I am not rejecting MMS no more that I would reject "poke root tincture" but I also understand both have to be used wisely. Please use common sense and be responsible. Take Care Quote:
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In The Mists
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Toronto
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Several of the MMS websites offer Jim Humbles Free book, explaining the theory and use of MMS. The details really need to be known before much in depth conversation makes sense.
For example, the "acid" used isn't hydrochloric. It's citric acid, or lemon juice. It's needed to turn the sodium Chlorite into the Chlorine Dioxide (stabilized oxygen). There is a correct proportion of sodium chlorite to acid to produce chlorine dioxide. taking vitamin C as in the case of mixing the solution with a fruit juice containing added vit C throws off the proper proportions. So it's good to read up a bit before commenting or assuming anything based on discussion. As far as I know, MMS has no side effects. Nausea, stomach upset, head ache, etc are expected effects which indicate the elimination of toxins or pathogens from the system. |
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: near the sea......
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Blufire 77 you are a wise!!! Why harm yourselves with miracles??? Namaste
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Please don't attempt to discredit something you don't understand. It is just confusing people. "Blufire77" also said I said something that I did not. Here is what he stated.... "Amgod was very clear saying several times that he has become ill . . . very ill using MMS." Now the truth is this... I got ill ONCE due to me testing the limits which I knew might produce adverse effects. However, I am one to push the envelope and see for myself the truth about the limits. Which I did. I got ill as expected (ONCE) and was back to normal in hours. I moved back to 6 drops and am fine now. *Why not just wait and see how things pan out with this stuff instead of bashing it constantly? *You don't have to test it. Let people like Peer and others including myself do it for you. *No need for bashing it. ![]() There is a good possibility you harm yourself more eating crappy food from the local grocery store (Toxins) than with MMS. Ampgod Last edited by Ampgod; 10-24-2008 at 07:39 PM. |
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
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This is an excellent thread with many good insights.
Thanks everyone |
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: near the sea......
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I think and want to make clear that experimenting with those products are not wise and can be harmful, like any medicine. The ingredients are pretty aggresive and as they are used wrong, cause a lot of harm. You might leave composing this product to someone who knows more of such things, to avoid errors.... I know about the healing effect and the use in africa to stabilise symptoms of malaria, hepatitus ect. Just want to say, again..., take care en keep thinking....!!! Namaste
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Here is some further information posted on the internet regarding extreme reactions to MMS.
How to Avoid Nausea Quote:
FREE Download Jim Humble's book Part 1: http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing ~ Click on About MMS and scroll to near bottom for link to FREE Download. Low cost shipping rates, include worldwide: See previous and future posts by peaceandlove regarding experience and protocols. Last edited by peaceandlove; 11-25-2008 at 07:53 AM. |
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I dont need a label !
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Does it cure baldness?
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More information from the Internet:Chlorine Dioxide gas circulates in the blood stream, destroying pathogens that are gradually eliminated. ~ MMS doesn't replace damaged body parts or add anything such as vitamins, nutrition, or protein. ~ MMS boosts the immune system immeasurably - 100% or even greater. ~ MMS doesn't heal anything. Sprains, whip-lash, bald head, addictions, and bad attitudes are not caused by bacteria. ~ When your body is free from poisons and toxins, the immune system sometimes "heals" damaged body parts. ~ Life style and positive attitudes are factors in triggering the immune system into reconstructive healing mode. ~ Claimed: MMS can be used periodically to maintain a cleansed toxin-free body, achieving high levels of immunity. ~ Conflict with other drugs is unlikely. If in doubt, voluntarily eliminate one or the other. http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing See previous and future posts by peaceandlove regarding experience and usage. Last edited by peaceandlove; 11-25-2008 at 07:54 AM. |
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I dont need a label !
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Oh well not to worry, would have been fun to be a long haired hippy again
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Avalon Senior Member
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hehe, i was ordering today....and looking forward for this ekspiriment.....so interesting, but i have also like 77 something read about people with more than healthy reactions, this was with hep c and herpes...anyway i think that slow start is the key here, a lot of people are loaded with germs, so ofcourse this can be harmful, i cant understnd how it can not be.....like a lot of other stuff overdosing....but by eliminating low ph cells it also have selflimiting reaction in a body...
but im exited abouth this.....big time!!!!
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I dont need a label !
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Avalon Senior Member
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Has there been any success with Osteo-Arthritis (complete healing)?
I have read the entire thread, took me the whole evening....whew...... & I just wanted to say IMO this is the best thread in the whole forum. It is awesome to see you all pushing forward with healing your bodies. Taking back your health and wellbeing is fantastic and empowering for you. A special word of thanks goes to PeaceAndLove for all your hard work & patience in posting and reposting all the material for the benefit of all.Also a special thanks goes to the herbalists, homeopaths & the doc for contributing your valuable knowledge. I have had some hearty laughs from Swanny and a few others sharing your personal experiences. Much knowledge will be gained from each of you sharing your healing crisis. Thanks to all of you and many blessings on your journey to freedom.
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Southern England
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up to 5 drops a day, feeling good!
but i can tell you that it doesn't mix very well with 3 pints of bitter on an empty stomach. hmm. |
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I dont need a label !
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Swanny, NO blessings for you today!!!
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Last edited by peaceandlove; 01-21-2009 at 06:46 AM. |
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Hi all,
This is my first post (just joined as paid member too!), and the main reason is because of MMS! First, some quick background. I'm 38, and pretty healthy, don't often get sick, and when I do, it's usually the cold and cough now and again, so it may be difficult for me to notice any big change. I'm doing it for for detoxing purposes, and as a 'guinea pig' before I recommend it to others! I'd like to share some my experience so far. I'm now on my 6th day, 7 drops. My experience: - After the very first dose (2 drops), my head felt weird very soon after that, for a short while. I think I remember someone also saying his head felt "fuzzy", and I guess that's a close description! I haven't had this feeling since. - I haven't experienced any nausea or diarrhea yet (touch wood!), though soon after the 6th and 7th drop (like just now), my stomach seemed to feel a bit weird for a short while. - I've noticed that my urine seems to have a very strong smell nowadays. Maybe it's cos I haven't been drinking enough water to go with the detoxing process, maybe it's cos of the toxins getting flushed out, or both. So, nothing major to report now. I do have a couple of questions while I'm here: 1. On my 5th and 6th drops, I mixed the MMS with a yoghurt drink. I found that it is great for masking the taste, cos you just can't taste any MMS at all. However, is it inadvisable to take dairy products like yoghurt or milk? I think someone earlier said that it curdles and may make it more likely for you to puke? 2. If I feel nausea coming on, what is the best thing to do? I remember Jim Humble saying that we could eat apple pulp (or just eat apple, right?). What I'm confused about is the role of Vitamin C. Should/Could I take Vit C to alleviate the nauseous effect, or should I not take Vit C no matter what? BTW, thanks for the EFT suggestion, PeaceandLove! It's the second time I heard it today, and I think it was a message! (I think I'll be spending the next few days YouTubing on EFT. I even did my first session just before this post!). Will be sure to use this too if/when I feel the nausea from MMS! Thanks! Karl |
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Chelmsford, Essex
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I got up to 12 drops on this Friday but I was out of breakfast so I skipped it
whoops made it to ~10am and then I was violently sick at work in toilets and then spent the rest of the day getting rid the other end. It is surprisingly ok to do this when you aren't actually ill and you know why. I had a mild headache but had Amethyst and Reiki in my hand ![]() Back on 7 drops today and plan to increase again back to the 15 eventually. It is starting to really turn my stomach even with apple juice and the thought of it makes my face turn like this ![]()
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Manchester
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Welcome Karl Karl....
The expert seems to be Peace and Love.....not sure about the yogurt drink but vitamin C does counter balance the sickly feeling apparently. I'm on seven drops (i think im healthy) but want to go up to 15 for one week and then taken the maintenance dose. The only thing I have had is loose bowels. The Nausea hasnt really hit me much and I dont even mind the taste. My son has suffered from asthma since birth. He had broncilitus and from then on he has had a dodgy chest. I must add he doesnt suffer from asthma any more but when he gets a cold or flu it hits him hard. He is now 10. He has a bad cold at the moment, so this morning I picked up the courage to give him 1/2 dose. As beleiveable as this entire thread is, and the Jim Humble book and video interview too, I was worried about giving it to him. I suppose all those other parents out there will know what I mean...Anyway after having this in my system for almost a week with no bad side effects, I decided to give him some. 1/2 dose this monring at about 9.45am. (he was coughing an awful lot and had a runny nose) By 2pm the coughing stopped and his nose became crusty. It had stopped running poor lad.I have not seen him go from hot to cold that quick before - seriously. Its now 18.43 and he seems really really well. Unbeleiveable. I also finished part 1 of the book - A BRILLIANT READ. if anyone ever bumps into Jim, can you please give him a thankyou from me. I have told so many people about MMS recently and everyone should do the same. anyway - im going to add the pic of my toe fungi later so everyone can have running snapshots of my dream to have normal feet
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Banned
Join Date: Sep 2008
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I looked at organic pineapple and apple juices at the market and ALL have Vitamin C in them. What the heck? I bought tart cherry as it had zero vitamin c...hope it helps.
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