October Surprise

TAXMASTER · 10-20-2008, 06:48 PM

i too think that anything is possible this year. how many times have you heard that this is the most important presidential race in some time? it's rockefeller obama verses rothchild mccain....anything is possible/probable. could it be that rockefeller may have overlooked the birth certificate issue or thought that base had been covered before he put his eggs into barack's basket? here is some food for thought....remember the army brigade being called home to be assigned to homeland security? what do you think will happen if at the last minute, the court rules that obama is not eligible to run for president or maybe find that after he is elected he is not eligible to be president? don't you think that the black voter will feel like they have been cheated by the system again. if you think the rodney king riots were bad just wait and see how they react to that.

another food for thought. i always thought it was a little strange how hillary refused to release and let her delagates go and vote for obama before the convention as other candidates had done in the past. i told my wife that i bet there is some kind of rule that if something happens to obama before the election or is somehow deemmed to be ineligible, then hillary would automatically take his place. (it may be a nonissue but if she would have released them then the democratic national committee could name who they wanted to replace obama.)

Namaste'

Greg10036 · 10-20-2008, 07:00 PM

You bring up some good point TAXMASTER. There are currently two law suits filed against Obama regarding his birth certificate, or lack of it. I have always thought that should McCain be elected, he would choose someone outside the loop as his VP to take over after perhaps a year in office. That this will be his legacy and he can at least leave congress as the leper with the most fingers. I think this is a legacy issue for McCain. I am glad you noticed she has yet to release her delegates to Obama. This is very interesting. Also of note was the stumping of McCain by the Clintons for a while. Then after the not so secret meeting between Bill Clinton and Obama, the Clintons started stumping for Obama and the Rothschilds started stumping for McCain. Noam Chomsky said we have one party and two factions, which is a dangerous situation. Peace.
g.

TAXMASTER · 10-20-2008, 07:31 PM

it wasn't but a couple weeks ago that clinton and mccain were at the same fundraiser and bill introduced mccain and called him a great american and a good friend. i thought it was a little too chummy for an election year.

Namaste'

NeoEmc2 · 10-20-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TAXMASTER

i too think that anything is possible this year. how many times have you heard that this is the most important presidential race in some time? it's rockefeller obama verses rothchild mccain....anything is possible/probable. could it be that rockefeller may have overlooked the birth certificate issue or thought that base had been covered before he put his eggs into barack's basket? here is some food for thought....remember the army brigade being called home to be assigned to homeland security? what do you think will happen if at the last minute, the court rules that obama is not eligible to run for president or maybe find that after he is elected he is not eligible to be president? don't you think that the black voter will feel like they have been cheated by the system again. if you think the rodney king riots were bad just wait and see how they react to that.

I sure hope nothing like this happens. If it does, it will be one ugly scene country-wide. It would definitely suck.

10-20-2008, 07:44 PM

Honestly, I have never counted Hillary out. I don't know why but I just don't believe O'Bama will be in Oval Office. It's like it's playing out too easily for him. Not that all elections aren't staged but this one is so obvious. Guess we'll know soon enough.

peace,
julie

10-20-2008, 07:51 PM

I have a question for the group. Let's say O'Bama wins the election. Then he's President-Elect. Now until he's sworn in W is still steering the ship, right? So what would keep him (W) from declaring martial law after the election? Thanks for you input.

peace,
julie

deb003 · 10-20-2008, 08:22 PM

Hi Julie,
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that the next presidency would officially begin on January 2009???

I also need clarification but I think that's how it works...

SpaceMonkey · 10-21-2008, 01:12 PM

this makes me fairly worried because of what this implies. What's so special about obama that he is selected to be president if he isn't even a US citizen. He is being put up for president for a reason and they have gone to great lengths to conceal his origin. There's something about this guy that worries me because this has all been planned out very well and it doesn't seem right. What are they up to? Perhaps obama will get into power and then his true identity is "leaked" into the mainstream media and it causes an uproar which consequently turns into riots and martial law.

Tara · 10-21-2008, 04:30 PM

Maybe a deal was made between Clintons & Obama to nominate Hillary to the Supreme Court. Just a thought.

TAXMASTER · 10-20-2008, 08:26 PM

a good conscience.....

Namaste'

Jonah · 10-20-2008, 08:35 PM

So if we can elect people who aren't born here, than we should just put

AHNOLD in the office. The world would turn in to what it was in the CONAN

movies. That would be more or less what we're looking for anyway. Without

the weapons of coarse.

Anyone???

colesmommy1117 · 10-20-2008, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vorian's Revenge

So if we can elect people who aren't born here, than we should just put

AHNOLD in the office. The world would turn in to what it was in the CONAN

movies. That would be more or less what we're looking for anyway. Without

the weapons of coarse.

Anyone???

....as long as I could play Red Sonya! lol. but seriously....i am intrigued as to why a birth certificate for obama hasn't shown up, myself.

heard some rumor somewhere that it could be possible that the truth of obama's birth country could come out, proving he's not a natural U.S. citizen. being said that this could throw Hillary back in as the nominee for the democractic party at the last minute....far-fetched? i don't know...

Jonah · 10-22-2008, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colesmommy1117

....as long as I could play Red Sonya! lol. but seriously....i am intrigued as to why a birth certificate for obama hasn't shown up, myself.

Red Sonya huh, Now there's a real woman.

Yah, seems kinda fishy. No agenda here. Just think it's weird. If I wanted to become president that would be like one of the things I would make sure I had...

Manchurian Candidate anyone???

But even that guy could show his birth certificate!

Humble Janitor · 10-21-2008, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vorian's Revenge

So if we can elect people who aren't born here, than we should just put

AHNOLD in the office. The world would turn in to what it was in the CONAN

movies. That would be more or less what we're looking for anyway. Without

the weapons of coarse.

Anyone???

Is there really any truth to this birth certificate story? I've read that it has already been debunked and yet, there are still people chasing after it like flies on ****.

It seems to me like anyone who wishes for Obama to fail has an agenda of their own, whether it be personal or organizational in nature. I do think it's pretty sad that people will continue to dupe themselves into believing that our government has nothing but sinister intentions.

Eli in MI · 10-21-2008, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CosmicFever

I have a question for the group. Let's say O'Bama wins the election. Then he's President-Elect. Now until he's sworn in W is still steering the ship, right? So what would keep him (W) from declaring martial law after the election? Thanks for you input.

peace,
julie

This is mostly true. However, the Obama transition team is already in place and making the necessary adjustments to assume command. I think this will create a level of transparency that would be startling to BushCo if they were planning on having a martial law situation. Obama plans ahead, there's change we can believe in..

I also don't think the American people would react to well to Bush trying to stay if office. With a dismal approval rating flirting with 20%, 4 out of 5 people think you're a jerk.

As far as Obama's birth certificate, Corsi's bogus claims have already been debunked by respected non-profit, non-partisan organizations like FactCheck.org and MediaMatters. There's plenty of pictures clearly showing the raised seal and certificate number.

Let it go, people. Jerome Corsi is a liar that is only interested in your money.

10-20-2008, 06:48 PM	#1
TAXMASTER Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Terre Haute, Indiana Posts: 117	Re: October Surprise i too think that anything is possible this year. how many times have you heard that this is the most important presidential race in some time? it's rockefeller obama verses rothchild mccain....anything is possible/probable. could it be that rockefeller may have overlooked the birth certificate issue or thought that base had been covered before he put his eggs into barack's basket? here is some food for thought....remember the army brigade being called home to be assigned to homeland security? what do you think will happen if at the last minute, the court rules that obama is not eligible to run for president or maybe find that after he is elected he is not eligible to be president? don't you think that the black voter will feel like they have been cheated by the system again. if you think the rodney king riots were bad just wait and see how they react to that. another food for thought. i always thought it was a little strange how hillary refused to release and let her delagates go and vote for obama before the convention as other candidates had done in the past. i told my wife that i bet there is some kind of rule that if something happens to obama before the election or is somehow deemmed to be ineligible, then hillary would automatically take his place. (it may be a nonissue but if she would have released them then the democratic national committee could name who they wanted to replace obama.) Namaste'

10-20-2008, 07:00 PM	#2
Greg10036 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 144	Re: October Surprise You bring up some good point TAXMASTER. There are currently two law suits filed against Obama regarding his birth certificate, or lack of it. I have always thought that should McCain be elected, he would choose someone outside the loop as his VP to take over after perhaps a year in office. That this will be his legacy and he can at least leave congress as the leper with the most fingers. I think this is a legacy issue for McCain. I am glad you noticed she has yet to release her delegates to Obama. This is very interesting. Also of note was the stumping of McCain by the Clintons for a while. Then after the not so secret meeting between Bill Clinton and Obama, the Clintons started stumping for Obama and the Rothschilds started stumping for McCain. Noam Chomsky said we have one party and two factions, which is a dangerous situation. Peace. g.

10-20-2008, 07:31 PM	#3
TAXMASTER Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Terre Haute, Indiana Posts: 117	Re: October Surprise it wasn't but a couple weeks ago that clinton and mccain were at the same fundraiser and bill introduced mccain and called him a great american and a good friend. i thought it was a little too chummy for an election year. Namaste'

10-20-2008, 07:44 PM	#5
CosmicFever Guest Posts: n/a	Re: October Surprise Honestly, I have never counted Hillary out. I don't know why but I just don't believe O'Bama will be in Oval Office. It's like it's playing out too easily for him. Not that all elections aren't staged but this one is so obvious. Guess we'll know soon enough. peace, julie

10-20-2008, 07:51 PM	#6
CosmicFever Guest Posts: n/a	Re: October Surprise I have a question for the group. Let's say O'Bama wins the election. Then he's President-Elect. Now until he's sworn in W is still steering the ship, right? So what would keep him (W) from declaring martial law after the election? Thanks for you input. peace, julie

10-20-2008, 08:22 PM	#7
deb003 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 297	Re: October Surprise Hi Julie, Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that the next presidency would officially begin on January 2009??? I also need clarification but I think that's how it works...

10-21-2008, 01:12 PM	#8
SpaceMonkey Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 83	Re: October Surprise this makes me fairly worried because of what this implies. What's so special about obama that he is selected to be president if he isn't even a US citizen. He is being put up for president for a reason and they have gone to great lengths to conceal his origin. There's something about this guy that worries me because this has all been planned out very well and it doesn't seem right. What are they up to? Perhaps obama will get into power and then his true identity is "leaked" into the mainstream media and it causes an uproar which consequently turns into riots and martial law.

10-21-2008, 04:30 PM	#9
Tara Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 85	Re: October Surprise Maybe a deal was made between Clintons & Obama to nominate Hillary to the Supreme Court. Just a thought.

10-20-2008, 08:26 PM	#10
TAXMASTER Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Terre Haute, Indiana Posts: 117	Re: October Surprise a good conscience..... Namaste'

10-20-2008, 08:35 PM	#11
Jonah Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sacramento Ca Posts: 366	Re: October Surprise So if we can elect people who aren't born here, than we should just put AHNOLD in the office. The world would turn in to what it was in the CONAN movies. That would be more or less what we're looking for anyway. Without the weapons of coarse. Anyone???