What do you know about the "Dr. Jonathan Reed Case"?

[Orion Morris]

Originally Posted by 371

Going with his story...

This ET travels all the way across the galaxy to vaporize a dog before meeting a sudden end at the hands of a guy with a big stick??

That alone doesn't jive. I believe stranger things have happened....
I'd like to believe it... But there is WAY too much evidence that this guy is a fraud.

This right here is the reason that this story is a lie...
How can you possibly believe that a dog chased down an alien only to get vaporized??? Then this alien who parked his hovering space craft near by proceeds to get in a stick fight with somebody??? He just vaporized a dog?? Then physicaly allowes someone to beat him to death???

ya right

Plus who in their right mind would take it home and video tape it before they reported it...

If I or anybody I know ever found an alien body I would freak out and drive right down to the corender and sherifs department to show them... I would tell as many people as possible as fast as I could... In order to eleminate a cover up...

Its not hard to fake pictures... or video...

[Shakesbeer]

Originally Posted by Orion Morris

Its not hard to fake pictures... or video...

Oh really? Please then, re-produce for us equal quality shots of an alien creature and "obelisk" like Dr. Reed then.

I seriously have worked in prop & mold making too in the realm of the Hollywood effects masters(at & out of a place called Monsters in Motion). Even had some of the people who worked on Star Wars, LOTR, Spiderman, Terminator 3, critique my work with resounding praise. Even THOSE guys would have difficulty reproducing that alien with all the things that where demonstrated on film in real time with no cuts.

In the very least demonstrate that Dr. Reed or any of his associates can produce models to the caliber shown in his photos and video or hired someone to do it.

Steve, I believe the the contents of ufowatchdog have been address in the thread already and on Dr. Reed's on lecture update. Not sure if you looked into that? If you have, then aren't you essentially doing the same thing you're claiming the people who have a differing opinion then you are doing?

[trainedobserver]

Reed was debunked and discredited some years ago. Someone has already posted the references.

[Shakesbeer]

Originally Posted by trainedobserver

Reed was debunked and discredited some years ago. Someone has already posted the references.

Those "discrediting" bits of information where specifically addressed in a lecture update, not to mention even if he's lying about his identity, no one seems to answer how he "faked" it do they?

I think it's funny the skeptics call hear say when they see the lecture update but they don't say the same thing about the guys who allegedly knew Dr. Reed by the other name according to ufowatchdog do they?

If you debunkers want to "debunk" anything I suggest you look at the "how" this "hoax" was done then. Not with hear say, but with hard evidence tying this man to some kind of fabrication source for all of the submitted extra terrestrial evidence.

[goody8504]

Originally Posted by Orion Morris

This right here is the reason that this story is a lie...
How can you possibly believe that a dog chased down an alien only to get vaporized??? Then this alien who parked his hovering space craft near by proceeds to get in a stick fight with somebody??? He just vaporized a dog?? Then physicaly allowes someone to beat him to death???

ya right

Plus who in their right mind would take it home and video tape it before they reported it...

If I or anybody I know ever found an alien body I would freak out and drive right down to the corender and sherifs department to show them... I would tell as many people as possible as fast as I could... In order to eleminate a cover up...

Its not hard to fake pictures... or video...

you should do a little more research. in the youtube i saw, reed claims it was more like the suit grabbed onto the dog, not the alien. reed used a stick, keeping well over an arms length away from the ET.

secondly, he wasn't beaten to death, merely knocked out for awhile.

finally, just because YOU would contact the authorities immediately doesn't mean everybody should be expected to do the same. you'd better believe if i ever had the option of recording an ET it's the very first thing i'd do. calling the "authorities" would be the last thing on my mind.