Oct. 24: Stock Market Crash

[hueyii]

We are the masters of our own destiny. Predictions rely on a sequence of events. If the sequence is broken the prediction is altered.

I predict that it will snow in the northeast united states in the next 30 days. Get your warm clothes out of the mothballs!

[Knightbk]

Are people asleep?
The stock market has already crashed.

A "crash" doesn't mean that it goes from X to 0, it just means that a large amount of wealth is lost, and that has already happened, at a greater degree overall than the Great Depression.

China and Russia are already both off by 50% and North America (TST, DOW) are off 35-40%.

The DOW doesn't need to go down any further to cause calamity because it ALREADY crashed and the consequences of that will be filter down to Main Street in greater number next year.

So this entire prophecy of a new "market crash" is really just a bunch of bs, because it already crashed. A few more points is irrelevant.

[ctophil]

Originally Posted by hueyii

We are the masters of our own destiny. Predictions rely on a sequence of events. If the sequence is broken the prediction is altered.

I predict that it will snow in the northeast united states in the next 30 days. Get your warm clothes out of the mothballs!

We are currently slaves to the global elite. You are nothing without Yahweh Elohim (translated roughly to God Almighty). In this world, there are a small number of people and powerful demons controlling it (definitely with lots of help from branches of the bloodline and so forth). At this point, you are a slave.....you just don't know it yet.

Originally Posted by Knightbk

Are people asleep?
The stock market has already crashed.

A "crash" doesn't mean that it goes from X to 0, it just means that a large amount of wealth is lost, and that has already happened, at a greater degree overall than the Great Depression.

China and Russia are already both off by 50% and North America (TST, DOW) are off 35-40%.

The DOW doesn't need to go down any further to cause calamity because it ALREADY crashed and the consequences of that will be filter down to Main Street in greater number next year.

So this entire prophecy of a new "market crash" is really just a bunch of bs, because it already crashed. A few more points is irrelevant.

If you read the thread I posted, the first post was dated back in July. There is nothing "new" about this prediction. The stock market will go down much lower to the point where main street (you and I) will feel and live within its impacts.

-Phillip

[Knightbk]

Originally Posted by ctophil

We are currently slaves to the global elite. You are nothing without Yahweh Elohim (translated roughly to God Almighty). In this world, there are a small number of people and powerful demons controlling it (definitely with lots of help from branches of the bloodline and so forth). At this point, you are a slave.....you just don't know it yet.




If you read the thread I posted, the first post was dated back in July. There is nothing "new" about this prediction. The stock market will go down much lower to the point where main street (you and I) will feel and live within its impacts.

-Phillip

It wont go down much lower. 5000 or so max, which is already a calamity.

The impact is coming, its just takes time to filter through. It doesn't happen over night.

[hueyii]

Originally Posted by ctophil

We are currently slaves to the global elite. You are nothing without Yahweh Elohim (translated roughly to God Almighty). In this world, there are a small number of people and powerful demons controlling it (definitely with lots of help from branches of the bloodline and so forth). At this point, you are a slave.....you just don't know it yet.

I am god. You are god. We are all aspects of divinity trying to experience itself. There is no such thing as evil, only love and the lack of it. Life is cause and effect, pure and simple. The further you move from love the longer your journey back to source.

We are all making this up as we go along. The illusion that you are an individual is the greatest deception. We are all one and collectively we control our destiny. Meditate on this for thirty years and you will understand.

Peace

[ctophil]

Originally Posted by hueyii

I am god. You are god. We are all aspects of divinity trying to experience itself. There is no such thing as evil, only love and the lack of it. Life is cause and effect, pure and simple. The further you move from love the longer your journey back to source.

We are all making this up as we go along. The illusion that you are an individual is the greatest deception. We are all one and collectively we control our destiny. Meditate on this for thirty years and you will understand.

Peace

If you are a god, how come you can't even change your hair color without dying it with some chemicals? Please humble yourself, and don't raise yourself to a high stature. Those who do will never be exalted by Father Yahweh (The Most High). Those who exalt themselves will be abased by Him, and those who humble themselves will Yahweh exalt them.

-Phillip

[uniconr]

i really dont appreciate preaching, its quite disrespectful to the beliefs of others. especially in the form of threats, 'you are nothing without god', 'you will never be exalted by god' please if youre going to continue to say things like that say them on a different forum.
otherwise i welcome any input you might have here.

one thing though, when the stock market fails, it is because investors are scared and they sell. by spreading some prophecy you and the prophecy forum guy are contributing to the fear and hence to the failure. not that i think its not going to happen anyway, but people really shouldnt need a prophecy to understand what is happening around them.

[ralok_j]

Originally Posted by uniconr

one thing though, when the stock market fails, it is because investors are scared and they sell. by spreading some prophecy you and the prophecy forum guy are contributing to the fear and hence to the failure. not that i think its not going to happen anyway, but people really shouldnt need a prophecy to understand what is happening around them.

There's plenty of other factors to fear, that will cause a sell off, than forum rumors (weak economic fundamentals, crumbling credit markets, etc........)

[ctophil]

Originally Posted by uniconr

i really dont appreciate preaching, its quite disrespectful to the beliefs of others. especially in the form of threats, 'you are nothing without god', 'you will never be exalted by god' please if youre going to continue to say things like that say them on a different forum.
otherwise i welcome any input you might have here.

one thing though, when the stock market fails, it is because investors are scared and they sell. by spreading some prophecy you and the prophecy forum guy are contributing to the fear and hence to the failure. not that i think its not going to happen anyway, but people really shouldnt need a prophecy to understand what is happening around them.

Please understand that the words I used in other posts are paraphrases directly from the Bible. Those are not my words and are not "threats." They are simply truth. Anybody who knows the Bible can back me up on this. Now, I give you prophecies and predictions for you to study and figure out for yourselves if they are definitely truths. For the truth remains the truth no matter what. As I said, if you don't like prophecy, then don't read it. Some of us want to know though.

-Phillip

[silverman]

Originally Posted by ctophil

Please understand that the words I used in other posts are paraphrases directly from the Bible. Those are not my words and are not "threats." They are simply truth. Anybody who knows the Bible can back me up on this. Now, I give you prophecies and predictions for you to study and figure out for yourselves if they are definitely truths. For the truth remains the truth no matter what. As I said, if you don't like prophecy, then don't read it. Some of us want to know though.

-Phillip

Hey guys!

Just take it easy! I believe we want to keep "camelot" & "avalon" place & space to be a space & place of peace and harmony!

So relax and if you don't know if dow goes up or down:

You just become opinion-less technical CFD-platform-traders as long they keep the markets open...this makes fun and earns you some extramoney while your surfing in avalon-forum....

- -

When you're in Switzerland next time I will invite you to a delicious Swiss Cheese Fondue, have some tasty wine and I show you where you can get some delicious chocolate and the next day we do a nice trip through nice little tiny Switzerland

Cheers, silverman

[uniconr]

im happy that you love god and god loves you : ) and maybe he does change his hair colour every day.
really, i dont wish to argue with what you believe, and i do understand that some of your words are from the bible.
what i said was that i dont appreciate you or anyone preaching from religious text, or telling other people that they are incorrect in their beliefs. its disrespectful

Prophecy (pra-fo-see) An event or events that two or more people agree on ahead of time.

Self Fullfilled Prophecy: One or more nuts decide to make something happen because a bunch of people believe it will take place.

peace,
julie

[Squeptikal]

Originally Posted by uniconr

im happy that you love god and god loves you : ) and maybe he does change his hair colour every day.
really, i dont wish to argue with what you believe, and i do understand that some of your words are from the bible.
what i said was that i dont appreciate you or anyone preaching from religious text, or telling other people that they are incorrect in their beliefs. its disrespectful

Yes, reciting the Bible which may be the way in which the PTB have designed this insane reality in the first place, might just be playing into their hands. If you expect the prophesies to be fulfilled, then just like Nostradamus's predictions we'll experience some collective interpretation of reality that won't be obviously clear, and then believers (there's that word again) will believe even more in the nonsense contained within it. THEY are creating our reality THROUGH US in that case.

Which of the following is more likely? That Jesus (Jmmanuel) was an immaculate conception by a god that remains aloof and unseen, or that someone (or something) placed a fertilized human embryo inside Mary while she slept dreaming of the best sex she'd ever had?

In this age of mapping the human genome and cloning, can't we get beyond the old fireside tales and look at what is possible now, and what we believed to be impossible only a few decades ago to see a major trend here? Stories are merely that - stories. Public opinion once held that the earth was flat, that the sun revolved around it, that women who didn't perform automatic circumcision were witches, and that money was something we all needed to live comfortably and that we couldn't live without it. We keep re-living the same insane history because of our self-imposed WRONG BELIEFS.

Science now contends that there was an evolution of the species from one to many and that there was no creation because an all-powerful God wasn't a peer-reviewed theory. Yet, their own data suggests spontaneous creation of many to the now few species! Does this not smack of deliberate ignorance and professional posturing?

Science also contends that the earth was once Pangea in the middle of a huge ocean and that the continent simply broke apart to form the familiar continental configuration we have today. No matter that it simply makes no logical sense, and that the theory of subduction & plate rotation is not evident on any other planet in our system. Again we have illogical theories being pushed as the best explanation EVEN THOUGH THEY DON"T MATCH THE OBSERVED FACTS AND ARE NOT REPEATABLE!! A complex and indistinct theory with no basis in observable or historic fact floats to the surface of our consciousness because of an elite group of self-proclaimed experts' BELIEFS which are WRONG!

A much more plausible theory which DOES adhere to the observable facts, which IS observed on other planets, IS repeatable, and which ALSO EXPLAINS SOME CRAZY IDEAS OF THE EARTH BEING HOLLOW (OR at least POROUS) is laughed off by the peer-review people because it interferes with their WRONG BELIEFS. This theory holds far greater scientific weight yet is being mocked and ignored by the scientific establishment - JUST AS THE UFO PHENOMENON AND ANTI-GRAVITY community are. It turns out that anti-gravity is merely gravity in the inverse through standing wave theory as presented by Stan Deyo here.

We are made to believe things that don't make sense in our collective observation by BELIEVERS which reduces our knowledge of what is possible and replaces it with what SOMEONE ELSE WRONGLY BELIEVES. This is the control system that inevitably results in our being constantly dumbed down and voiceless and begging for some explanation - no matter how illogical or ridiculous it may be. Religious beliefs are even more insidious because of how much hatred, war, and love of money it creates WITHOUT EVEN ACKNOWLEDGING GOD!

Instead, why not create a belief in a reality that does not include the gloom & doom but instead does include a massive pole shift, a large & much-needed devaluation of the US currency, and no nuclear war? I could live with that much more sanely. How about you?

God isn't a being, God is every being throughout all realms transcending all time forever. Can I get an AMEN here?

[warngen]

we will just have to wait and see if this event will occur.......
i stocked up already...thinking that the oct 7 event would change everything...

[ralok_j]

Did anyone watch The Big Idea with Donny Deutsch?

[THE eXchanger]

if ROBINHOOD was here...
he would probably say

now that i am retired...
isn't it great to sit up here in heaven,
and, see the "ultra rich"
raping "the rich"
(although it is unfortunate,
they are pulling stuff out of average people too)
however...invest with criminals...
and, you eventually also get burned

i am glad,
i pulled my money out of that "fools market"
decades ago !!! and, told others to do the same thing,
buy land !!!

and, learn how to live simply

turn off the tv

stop buying the magazine/movie/and, newpaper c.r.a.p.

it's a real insult;
NOT ONLY TO US, who do NOT want to read your lies,
but, also to the fibre of trees,
the "good trees"
it's printed on

they too will have issues, with those who originated the lies

i can only imagine--where those guys are going
when they cycle out of this lifetime--i am sure,
it is a place, NONE of US, are very likely to see !!!

it is NEVER too late,
for those on the wrong side
(and, i know, some of you are reading this)
to get out your whistle
(and, BLOW !!!)

do NOT SAY, you have NOT been warned

also...if they say; they will look after you

there are many people, who make that claim

and, do NOT follow through on it,

after_all, anything that is disposiable,
they are likely to dispose,
maybe you think, we are first,
and, you are protected,
think again,
they do NOT leave people around
to talk, so, in essence,
you might think you have options,
when you do NOT

if, i was you...
i'd be blowing your whistles,
while you still have a chance!!!

when the game is over...
the king and the pawn are put into the same box !!!

love
susan
the eXchanger

It's my opinion that today will be a wild ride on Wall Street. 80 million options are set to expire. President addresses the nation at 10:00. Gold manipulation is so obvious that my four year old niece can see it. I'm sick of hearing what Warren Buffet is doing. If I still owned stock I would be selling at the opening bell. A little bit of something is better than a whole lot of nothing. Life support may be discontinued today. Friday has always been a good day to dump on the American public. It gives the PTB all weekend to get their lies in order and most Americans will be more concerned with who their favorite NFL team is playing on Sunday.

peace,
julie

"I can't think about that right now. If I do, I'll go crazy. I'll think about that tomorrow." ~Scarlett O'Hara

[Elephant Man]

"" am glad,
i pulled my money out of that "fools market"
decades ago !!! and, told others to do the same thing,
buy land !!!

and, learn how to live simply

turn off the tv

stop buying the magazine/movie/and, newpaper c.r.a.p.""

Thats the way, aha aha, I like it!
well said young lady

Mods- can we have a sub-section for predictions and prophecies please? That way the people who want to go around scaring each other and/or building up false hopes can forecast to each other to their hearts' content without cluttering up the rest of the forum.

The name of this thread, "Oct. 24: Stock Market Crash", is obviously dealing with both a date in the future and an event that hasn't occured yet. The title alone implies that there could possibly be some prophesy and/or predictions in the content. Perhaps if one is uncomfortable with that they should skip it and move on to another topic.

peace,
julie

Quote: 14 December 2008 --- 1260 days begin again. 2-1/2 years begin. --- World War III begins with attacks on the United States, the United Kingdom, and Israel.

Yep that just makes my day, month and year. Something to really ponder and look forward to.

As if there isn't enough dispicable acts of degeneration and sickness by humans on the earth, hey, it's not over yet folks, we have more wonderful things to look forward to.

I do believe in the Creator, angels, ETs and all the rest but sometimes I can't help thinking I would like to have a go at time travel, go back to the source and stop all experience except the positive, no fall, no nothing, that would relieve billions of living things excruciating carnate lives on earth. I can't stand even watching animal planet anymore, too upsetting.

[munkey]

Originally Posted by Tuza

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I do believe in the Creator, angels, ETs and all the rest but sometimes I can't help thinking I would like to have a go at time travel, go back to the source and stop all experience except the positive, no fall, no nothing, that would relieve billions of living things excruciating carnate lives on earth. I can't stand even watching animal planet anymore, too upsetting.

If you only experience good things, you will never truley appreciate the good.
A cracker to a starving man is a feast, yet a cracker to a full man is a waste.

I prefere to experience both good and bad so I can truley enjoy the good.
I suffer from severe dermatitis, and a good day for me is when I wake up and my hands arn't itchy and rubbed until they bleed. if you never suffered it, you would never know the joy unless you experience it.

The hardest thing in most peoples day is what they are going to wear, I missed days at work because I was unable to do up my buttons because of the swelling and bleeding.

As much as I hate the condition, in a way I am happy I experience it, because it keeps me grounded and constantly questioning every part of my life.

I know this doesn't have much to do with the stock market crash, but there are far more important things than money out there, money will not make you smile like when a baby says its first words or crawls for the first time.
Money will not make you smile because it cant crawl into your lap and just be there because of who you are.
Money can't kiss you good night and just hold you,

worry about money everyday and you become it's slave,
always remember that the univers gives you what you need when you need it, not when you want it.

[Brinty]

Good post munkey, I agree all the way. I'd like to meet the bloke that invented money and give him a good talking to The next fellow who'd get the same treatment is the one who invented interest on money borrowed and finally, for the turkey that invented the stock market, another dose of the same.

Well, I probably wouldn't do any of that, but I feel a lot better after getting it off my chest.

[mmerlinn]

Originally Posted by Tuza

Quote: 14 December 2008 --- 1260 days begin again. 2-1/2 years begin. --- World War III begins with attacks on the United States, the United Kingdom, and Israel.

Yep that just makes my day, month and year. Something to really ponder and look forward to.

As if there isn't enough dispicable acts of degeneration and sickness by humans on the earth, hey, it's not over yet folks, we have more wonderful things to look forward to.

I do believe in the Creator, angels, ETs and all the rest but sometimes I can't help thinking I would like to have a go at time travel, go back to the source and stop all experience except the positive, no fall, no nothing, that would relieve billions of living things excruciating carnate lives on earth. I can't stand even watching animal planet anymore, too upsetting.

One of the significant days referenced in this thread is rapidly approaching us headon:

14 December 2008 --- 1260 days begin again. 2-1/2 years begin. --- World War III begins with attacks on the United States, the United Kingdom, and Israel.

In a few days we will know how accurate/inaccurate the above prediction was.

Now for an update before the day arrives. At the time of this prediction I firmly believed that this day would be a day of MILITARY attacks upon the nations mentioned. And to a large degree I still feel that way.

However, a few days ago there came rumbling out of China that they would "soon" revalue the yuan versus the U.S. dollar by about 30%. No date given, but with a populace bordering on mutiny, the Chinese MUST do something VERY SOON. Nothing happened over the last weekend, so possibly next weekend.

Chinese exports have plummeted and many factories in China have closed because of the condition of the credit markets. They have product to sell and no one to sell it to. Their biggest market, the United States, has basically quit buying merchandise of any kind regardless of where it is produced. So, suddenly, the Chinese can't sell their goods.

Rumor has it that China is partnering up with someone else to bring stability back into the Chinese market. No one seems to know who that "someone else" is, though. Unfortunately, to bring stability back, they must devalue the yuan AND find new markets at the same time, both of which will devastate what is left of the U.S. economy. The only reasonable place to find a new market is in Europe, and to crack that market the U.S. competition for the European markets must be neutralized.

So, my theory is that the Chinese are combining forces with Europe and with a concerted effort the U.S. will lose the European market and face national bankruptcy at the same time.

What is in it for the Chinese? A large market to sell their goods free from U.S. competion. Reopening of Chinese factories putting the simmering populace back to work. And repatriation of worthless U.S. dollars.

What about Europe? Greater hedgemony of the world's financial markets. Elimination of U.S. competition. A greater say in world affairs.

Is this guess correct? No way to know at the present time.

However, SOMETHING big will happen this next Sunday, whether immediately visible for all to see or not. The opening shots for WWIII are still on the table, although they may or may not happen. Also on the table now is a potential Chinese devaluation.

I cannot rule out nuclear attacks on the above nations at this time. Neither can I rule out Chinese devaluation. Either and/or both may happen along with other unknown events.

The likely scenario now is devaluation. Once the Chinese have exited the dollar in favor of the EU, then physical attack on the U.S. by Europe to eliminate all competition.

Regardless of what actually happens on the 14th, events that day will either be military defeat for the U.S. et alia OR a prelude to that same military defeat.

Because I can't rule out war now, I am packing my things and will be 300 miles from the nearest large city long before the weekend arrives. If war does not arrive, I will be back for a few weeks before again leaving the big city around the 16th of January. If war does arrive, I will stay gone assuming that my preparations for the last three years will be sufficient to stay alive until after Armageddon in 2012.

Anyhow, if I am correct, this will probably be my last post here. The Bible states that 1/3 of our populations will die during such an attack, with another third dying later of starvation & disease. In that scenario the internet would stop working. Also, I expect to be around 50 miles from the nearest connection making it impossible for me to post any updates even if by some miracle the internet keeps working.

[Swanny]

Europe attacking USA???
That wouldnt happen, the members of europe would be capable of winning if they joined forces but the countries of europe dont get on well enough.
So don't worry America your safe for the moment