Barack Obama Planted?

[raulduke]

Hi End_Times, I was wondering if you would respond to my post above, if you have the time.

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by raulduke

Hi End_Times, I was wondering if you would respond to my post above, if you have the time.

The term "race card" is a term invented by right-wing politicians and they pull out this handy little card whenever they think race has been invoked in a political manner.

McCain doesn't have to use racism. His supporters have already done it for him. Did you read about a rally in Clearwater, FL where McCain/Palin supporters were openly calling for Obama's death? What about the rally where an older white male brought a toy monkey with an Obama shirt and when the camera panned to him, he pawned it off on a kid?

Like it or not, racism still exists in this country and I just don't understand why Obama is the one accused of using race.

There's also a saying out there: "If you didn't vote, don't complain."

[raulduke]

Originally Posted by End_Times012

The term "race card" is a term invented by right-wing politicians and they pull out this handy little card whenever they think race has been invoked in a political manner.

I was really hoping not to have to argue semantics w/ you but, oh well here goes.
Wether you want to call it a race card or a race issue, surely you would agree that race, as an issue, exists and either campaign can selectively use it to their benefit as they see fit.
Please try to get past this left/right wing thinking. It's circular logic anyway.

Originally Posted by End_Times012

McCain doesn't have to use racism. His supporters have already done it for him. Did you read about a rally in Clearwater, FL where McCain/Palin supporters were openly calling for Obama's death? What about the rally where an older white male brought a toy monkey with an Obama shirt and when the camera panned to him, he pawned it off on a kid?

I'm not sure you actually read my original post, as right there, you have made my point.

Yes, I saw that rally and a more recent one where McCain was booed for saying Obama was a "decent man". He didn't say "good man" because that wouldn't play well nationaly for him, but he couldn't indulge the frenzied crowd either because that wouldn't play well either. The fact is that fear of "different" people (i.e; racism) is indeed prevalent in some sleepy backwaters, so tactics that are slightly more overtly racist, will play better. They "focus group" the sh*t out of the American public to find out our fears and desires and then craft rhetoric that they think wil resonte w/ said fears or desire.

Obama may well be a good man, and his original intentions for seeking the office of the president may have been noble. McCain too for that matter.
Frankly though, that is irrelevant because good men or not, niether would be where they are w/o some very powerful backers.
What does matter though, is that the hands up the backsides of these two candidates are connected to the same entity.

I'll quote Thunderbird as an example of how it might be very easy to co-opt a good man.

Originally Posted by Thunderbird

Whats interesting about this....

remember when his jet had to make an emergency landing a few months back?

pilot lost controls of the plane.

something about an emergency slide being deployed...

yeah well what they arent telling you is that someone got controls of the aircraft and used that to SCARE him into doing what he was told.

notice his demeanor changed right after that incident.

"hey do what we tell you or we will pull your card...see how easy it is?"

EDIT: Thunderbird was responding to a thread I wrote entitled "Has Barack Obama Already Been Comprimised?"

Originally Posted by End_Times012

There's also a saying out there: "If you didn't vote, don't complain.

I didn't say I wasn't voting. I'll vote for nader/gonzales. I'm sure you think that is throwing my vote away, but nader imo is a man uncorruptable.

[raulduke]

End_Times,

Your repsonses leave me wanting.

Maybe it's just me, but I feel like I am making valid critiques of your arguments, and you are chucking out red herrings ("race card") like a fishmonger on friday.

Care to respond to anything I have written here w/o using semantics or circular logic?

[Dantheman62]

Give it to'em rd.LOL!