10 Reasons to Stop Eating Beef (and other Fast Food)

[Morgan]

I most closely agree with Sherab, and I think there was one other who stated a similar viewpoint.

I really regret not having committed this information to my mind more thoroughly, but know it exists that vegetarianism is not the answer to all of our problems. I was a vegetarian for nearly 10 years, vegan for six of those, and I was quite ill by the end of that time. Adding meat and dairy back to my routine brought my health back up considerably.

I do disagree with commercial farming, factory farming, etc. I eat only organic animal products. We don't need to be inhumane and unsustainable in our practice of meat consumption. No answer is as simple as vegetarian vs. meat-eater. It's far more complicated than everyone just quitting meat.

[371]

I know a guy who's really against eating meat.

But he says that whenever he sees a dead deer on the side of the highway, he'll pick it up and bring it home if it's still fresh. He'll butcher it, put the meat in a big cooler, and share it with whoever. His thinking is that killing an animal is wrong, but if it's already dead by accident it would be wrong for it's death to be for nothing.

I gotta say that makes sense, though you won't catch me picking up roadkill to eat. Though I have eaten his venison many time, and I gotta admit- it's pretty damn good.

[burgundia]

I don't eat meat out of compassion for animals. After being a vegetarian for some time I detest meat now.

[Sir-Chi]

Even though a true Alchemist can transmute any energies .... which is much of what Cayce always talked about .... changing the vibration of your food before you eat it .....

I'm focusing on a Ascending body .... and i'm looking forward to not rely on food all together. March 25th of this year my family and i become vegitarians. Even though we rarely ate meat (except for fish) but now no red meat ever and occasionally some fish.

There are tons of reasons all of which were put in the list of ten and someone else mentioned "how about the way we are even treating the animals" which happens to be the one that really pushed me over the line.

http://www.meat.org/

HAS EVERYONE SEEN THE MEATRIX SHORT CARTOON CLIPS?!?!?!
http://www.meatrix.com/ (they are excellent)


To a Rise in Consciousness
with much,
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[WalkingTurtle]

I also stopped eating meat a month ago. I've always liked to eat meat and also had no problem with killing a hare or a chicken because I grow up on a farm but suddenly I couldn't eat it anymore and every time I tried to eat it I got sick. And somehow I started to feel and even hear the animals belonging to that. Now I feel much better and healthier then ever before. I've now realized that all that stuff you can find in super markets is mostly based on meat and that there are so little alternatives for meat replacement. The food industry seems to be based so much on animal slaughter. That is so repugnant!

WT

[Sherab]

Going veggie/vegan means you will feel better for a while, probably because you are forced to eat more veggies and your body can process some of the back log of toxic stuff. But eventually, unless you are extremely conscientious, and eat lots of eggs, your health will begin to decline.

Humans are basically protein synthesizing animals, we need lots of it daily to stay to healthy. I believe I have read that vegetarian societies have a shorter lifespan compared to meat eating societies (someone can check on this if they are so inclined).

The reason there are no good substitutes for meat is because there are no good substitutes for meat. Nature intended humans to eat meat to maintain optimum health. Soy, hemp, TVP, etc, do not even come close to providing adequate nutrition.

I am not yet convinced that a sustainable society could exclude all meat eating. But maybe I will be proven wrong.

And let me just say, I am not discounting veganism/vegetarianism. I just don't think they are viable long-term solutions.

[Morgan]

If you listen to Mercola (mercola.com), he says that a lot of people are high-protein types (meaning their diet needs to be based on animal protein and fats), that the middle group are mixed types (needing a more balanced diet of animal protein and plant/vegetable carbohydrates), and then there are the minority vegetarian types, who, you guessed it, thrive on a meatless, high-carb diet.

Most people do not thrive on the latter.

A question for the ascension/spiritual types:

What do you say to people who must eat animal proteins in order to maintain decent health? IE. ketogenic diet for epileptics, there is even research suggesting higher protein diets are ideal for diabetics, inflammatory bowel disease, and check around www.westonaprice.org for another viewpoint about meat. What about people with food allergies, who if they were to exclusively eat plants would be so limited they'd be malnourished? I am allergic to all grains, dairy, and soy - my diet would thus contain fruits and vegetables. So how do I meet caloric needs in a balanced way??

These are why I don't buy the 'vegetarianism is more spiritual' line of thought. Human health is too fragile and damaged for this to be a key to 'ascension' or 'enlightenment'.

I think there's a big difference between factory farming and being as intelligent and as humane as possible. We have responsibility, no doubt. I guess my 'beef' (ha) with vegetarians are the ones who become religious about it, trying to convert others and proclaim it is the way to heaven, the way to a better life, the way to enlightenment, etc.

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[BeaTnik-BandiT]

Originally Posted by Morgan

'vegetarianism is more spiritual'

This is New-Age BS.


salute.

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[whitecrow]

Originally Posted by Morgan

If you listen to Mercola (mercola.com), he says that a lot of people are high-protein types...
These are why I don't buy the 'vegetarianism is more spiritual' line of thought.

I think you've made some really important points. I constantly advocate a mostly vegetarian diet, but I have never been a vegetarian and don't believe I ever will. I've always been uncomfortable with the subtle moral innuendo that underlies so much vegetarian advocacy. The implication is that vegetarians are morally superior because they don't kill animals.

I think this is pure ox droppings. There is nothing immoral about eating meat. I do believe that the way most food animals are raised and slaughtered is appalling, and moreover the way we consume meat is both unhealthy and bad for the planet. But as far as eating meat goes, there's nothing inherently wrong with that. Personally, I think everyone who eats meat should kill and dress out a deer or other mammal at least once in their life, simply so they have a very clear understanding of the circle of life. Maybe that makes me hardcore...it sure doesn't make me more of a carnivore.

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by Morgan

'vegetarianism is more spiritual'

I dont buy that either. I mean can you imagine trying to explain that to a Native American Indian who lived on buffalo - and telling them that they could be more spiritual if they ate veggies instead!

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[aroundthetable]

According to the Vedas, people who meat without necessity can only make limited spiritual progress. People who have no choice and/or hunt their own meat are not affected by this, for example eskimos and native indians and they too have the highest respect for those that they must kill and established spiritual practices. I doubt this applies to the people in this forum. Outside of necessity, meat is murder and karmic reaction is certain. Its your choice.

[Neo]

Originally Posted by Morgan

I most closely agree with Sherab, and I think there was one other who stated a similar viewpoint.

I really regret not having committed this information to my mind more thoroughly, but know it exists that vegetarianism is not the answer to all of our problems. I was a vegetarian for nearly 10 years, vegan for six of those, and I was quite ill by the end of that time. Adding meat and dairy back to my routine brought my health back up considerably.

I do disagree with commercial farming, factory farming, etc. I eat only organic animal products. We don't need to be inhumane and unsustainable in our practice of meat consumption. No answer is as simple as vegetarian vs. meat-eater. It's far more complicated than everyone just quitting meat.

Totally agree with you and further more anyone who still insists that eating meat is bad for you, then I would remind them of all the native cultures that have been doing it for centuries and have maintained better health than us westerners. I agree that common animal farming is in most cases woeful but that by itself is not a complete argument against eating meat and I also believe that obesity has nothing at all to do with meat. Lets also not forget than for some people in some parts of the world, growing fruit and veg is near impossible due to climate. I once watched a documentary about a village of people that ate almost nothing but reindeer, they were quite healthy.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcmYN...eature=related


this thread made me think of this old hip hop tune

im vegetarian have been since 2000. tried vegan until i realised soya is a brain exiter toxin. i have eaten meat occasionally when presented to me as a gift. like mendicant monks.

[Sideshow Shaman]

Here in the usa we have these inane commercial advertising campaigns focused on things like beef or milk. A slogan from one that lasted for quite a while is "Beef, It's What's for Dinner" (still going apparently)


Starting memes is a hobby of mine. Here is one that attempts to break the 'beef = dinner' mental link. It usually provokes quite a reaction from the zombies that populate mainstream internet sites.

Beef, It's What You're Programmed to Eat!™

It still gives me a chuckle