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Old 10-12-2008, 04:12 PM   #7
Morgan
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Default Re: Why The Venus Project Won't Work !!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Peer View Post
The American dream has turned into a nightmare because nobody had the same idea about what freedom is.
For one freedom is being alone in your sanctuary and worshipping his god(s).
For another one freedom is taking taking taking untill somebody else takes the freedom to pick up a gun and defend what he thinks is his.

Well here are some facts:

You cannot own land.
You cannot own what is in, under or on the land.
You cannot own water or air or the space inside the water or the air.
You cannot own a living being, be it human, animal or plant.

Simply said: You cannot own !

That also implicates you cannot sell or buy.
Anyone selling something should be treated as a fraud, a thief and be judged like one because you cannot sell what you don't own.

We can change this world by not buying anymore, by not wanting to own anything anymore, by realising that you are no more or better than your neigbour because of having a car or a house while he is sleeping in the alley.

Actually you should feel ashamed of having stolen these things from him.

Is this going too far for you?

When Jezus fed 3000 people from 3 pieces of bread and 5 fish that wasn't the miracle.
In those days everybody carried something to eat with him (they still do) and jezus showed them how to share and they shared.

That was the miracle !!

And when they all had finished eating there were 12 baskets of food left....abundance by sharing.

If we start sharing there will be no more poverty in this world.
My hero

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Originally Posted by gwynned View Post
I don't think we can discount the importance of the directives the system sends to us, all of which focus on the accumulation of individual wealth. Why does the system do that? Imagine if neighbors got together and bought one good lawnmower that would last a lifetime. Imagine what would happen if people suddenly decided they didn't really need any new clothes and mended what they had, or developed an exchange system so that clothes could be rotated and everyone always had something that was new to them? I'm not sure that selfishness is inherent in the personal psyche, but it is important to a system that relies on profits. Look at what people instinctively do in an emergency, often risking their own lives to help another, bypassing that reptilian brain that constantly says "I need to survive!" And of course, people now are focused on survival because it is clear that NO one will help them if they don't.

I found this article on rense.com about Cuba and how they are handling a food crisis which resulted from a spate of hurricanes on the island. People are willing to live with limited rations because they know they don't have to hoard...that the government will do what it takes to see that they are fed.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

The lines are long and some foods are scarce, but because the government has maintained and even increased rations in some areas, Cubans who initially worried about getting enough to eat now seem confident they won't go hungry despite the destruction of 30 percent of the island's crops by hurricanes Gustav and Ike last month.

"Of the little there is, there is some for everyone," 65-year-old Mercedes Grimau said as queued up behind more than 50 people to buy lettuce, limited to two pounds per person
*applause*

We've definitely been conditioned and coerced that amassing as great an amount of **** as possible means we are valuable, successful and happy human beings. When the world changes, we will change. I would say it should be the other way around - and it would certainly make for easier going if we were to all individually decide hey, I'm not playing this stupid game anymore... But ultimately it may be the other way around where stuff gets too difficult and people are forced to accept a different standard of life. (Hopefully at this point they become receptive to holistic ideas rather than getting herded onto the system the PTB prefer.)

I think the moment we close our minds to a brighter future, we effectively prevent that future from happening. We need critical thinkers, but seeing a potential problem in a new vision should not kill the vision - it should inspire efforts to improve the vision and continue pushing forward.
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