Macy's offers Illuminati/ Bohemian Grove T-Shirt!!

[omnicentricity]

Originally Posted by raulduke

So, omnicenticity, (and this is not ment to be antagonistic) how can you gaurantee that this is some sort of joke amongst design insiders?

Well, in all fairness, there is no way to prove this per se, and 'guarantee' is perhaps not the best word choice in that regard hehe. I was just offering the viewpoint that seemed self-evident to me after spending a significant portion of my waking hours observing, collecting and creating digital artwork and the resulting understandings I have derived from what I know of all the elements involved in the creation of shirts, for example.

The refined intuition I have for such a thing (for whatever its worth!), just tells me that the artist who did these designs prolly has read a book or two on the subject of interior governments and/or related symbolism, and was emoting sarcasm and silliness as he/she was creating the artwork. It's just kind of a cluster of pseudo-random symbol choices and the fact that the font straight up sucks for any kind of professional look means it was likely to have been quite intentional as a tongue-in-cheek choice.

To me, the artist does not demonstrate a very refined understanding of all this interior government stuff, which is another reason I think its more of a joke than anything.

And almost all of the time, in this design game that I play now and then, I find it interesting enough to mention that I really never know who will resonate with different pieces of artwork and as a result its near impossible to guess where they will show up and catch on (unless of course a piece is commissioned for a specific purpose). I have a lot of confidence on my perception that the artist was likely quite surprised when a macy's buyer ended up stocking the shirts.

In the end though, I really don't have much to base this on than an intuitive viewpoint of the mechanics involved in getting a shirt into a company's inventory, even if that viewpoint is something that I feel is well-grounded enough to offer the perspective I did.

I am not contending that this is an evil shirt, but almost surely if you are here (Camelot/Avalon), you would agree that the illuminati and bohemian grove represent evil forces? No?

Oh, for sure. We see 100% eye to eye on that, my friend.

If that is the case, then I would assert that by wearing these shirts and branding yourslef an Illuminati Knight, even as a joke (like the Obama hipster who ironically wears a McCain t-shirt), is still in a way identifying with evil. Unless maybe you draw a big circle w/ a line through it over the shirt.

Point taken. It's all in the eye of the beholder there, and I suppose my very lighthearted approach to life leads me to not take little things like a macy's shirt as seriously as Alex Jones does. And not to knock on the guy too much (I don't want to join the 'Bash Alex Jones Bandwagon'), but he certainly has a tendency to project the most omnious intentions into virtually everything he sees... which really is not inherently a bad thing, its just observing the reality he lives in.

AJ's commentary on the shirt is "Can it get any more obvious? The NWO loves to rub our faces in it. Wear it so you can advertise who owns you." And perhaps this is a bit of his own subversive sarcasm in his own style, but I guess I don't really subscribe to the idea that anywhere symbols appear which have been associated with 'bad things' will automatically mean the worst intention can be projected into that space.

I'll end with an example to illustrate, but also because I think this is funny and makes a good story. A long time ago I made a shirt that ended up becoming strangley viral, and different versions of these are all over the internet now on various apparrel sites:



Now, I have worn this many times and had people come up to me all excited about Jesus, "Hey man, great to meet a fellow Christian," or some other such bizarre conversation opener. While it's funny to watch someone's expression shift when they realize they misunderstood, there are several assumptions someone could make about me, which could include views such as "That guy sure likes to **** on people's beliefs" or "He must be an atheist with a chip on his shoulder" or "He is evil!"

None of them are true really, not even close. In essence I just like to laugh a lot and enjoy life, and so I behave in ways which amuse me. LOL

I suppose I felt a little odd at the way in which some people in this thread were projecting the omnious extreme on this stuff. Not singling out you or anyone else, of course. Understanding where you found the link may have affected the perception of the subject a bit at least as far as the thread goes, and I just wanted to balance out the energy because that's what lightworkers do

[raulduke]

Originally Posted by omnicentricity

In essence I just like to laugh a lot and enjoy life, and so I behave in ways which amuse me. LOL

Great post. We are so similar that this t-shirt business now seems irrelevant.

You've provided well thought out balance. I hadn't considered that macy's may have bought these t-shirts from some designer w/ their own views on the subject matter (whatever those views maybe..).

Now this next bit is fairly freaky.

I am writing this post after arriving home from seeing Lotus (great band, by the way). At the show, I chuckled at a "trucker hat" worn by a passing hippy goofball. The hat read: "Jesus Shaves".
Different image but freaky, now, nonetheless.

Here's a picture of the show. You can't see him, but somewhere in that crowd is a goofy looking kid wearing a "Jesus Shaves" hat.

[omnicentricity]

Originally Posted by raulduke

Here's a picture of the show. You can't see him, but somewhere in that crowd is a goofy looking kid wearing a "Jesus Shaves" hat.

Oh man, that is AWESOME! hahahaha. And yes, Lotus is great.

Seriously bro, you just made my day



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Originally Posted by MMe M

misc. loaded rhetoric

MMe M - As a general rule, reading through a thread to the end is a good idea before posting a kneejerk response. Scroll just above your post to see one from me that might answer the questions from you that 'we are all waiting to hear.'

<3

[MMe M]

Originally Posted by omnicentricity

Oh man, that is AWESOME! hahahaha. And yes, Lotus is great.

Seriously bro, you just made my day



EDIT:


MMe M - As a general rule, reading through a thread to the end is a good idea before posting a kneejerk response. Scroll just above your post to see one from me that might answer the questions from you that 'we are all waiting to hear.'

<3

Thank you. I did read all.

Knee jerk isnt my style. Why is it people post the most mundane advice when it is neither apropriate nor warranted? Perhaps its a defense mechanism?

Putting something on a t-shirt is a very bush thing to do. They were everywhere in the 80's. NWO t shirts, on all the cool kids on tv. Its not a new tactic. Say it or show it often enough and the people will come to accept it and whats more, embrace the concept behind it without even knowing the details. That is how little regard they have for us, we are nothing but dumb animals to them.

And regarding bringing light, Satan was the light bearer. The illuminati are the illumined ones, or the enlightened ones. Lets just be clear here. Im not a religious type myself, but then I dont claim to be bringing a little "light" into peoples lives. I only hope to plant a question or two that they cannot resist researching themselves.

What I say, what I express is all true to what I am, I can be no other way. Knee jerk is not accurate. Genuine.

[omnicentricity]

Originally Posted by MMe M

Thank you. I did read all.

Knee jerk isnt my style. Why is it people post the most mundane advice when it is neither apropriate nor warranted? Perhaps its a defense mechanism?

Putting something on a t-shirt is a very bush thing to do. They were everywhere in the 80's. NWO t shirts, on all the cool kids on tv. Its not a new tactic. Say it or show it often enough and the people will come to accept it and whats more, embrace the concept behind it without even knowing the details. That is how little regard they have for us, we are nothing but dumb animals to them.

And regarding bringing light, Satan was the light bearer. The illuminati are the illumined ones, or the enlightened ones. Lets just be clear here. Im not a religious type myself, but then I dont claim to be bringing a little "light" into peoples lives. I only hope to plant a question or two that they cannot resist researching themselves.

What I say, what I express is all true to what I am, I can be no other way. Knee jerk is not accurate. Genuine.

Forgive me, Master. I heed your beck and call.

I tried to project a response from my ego in order to mirror what you are being, but I don't want to play that game (I think this is a good sign that my monkey chatter brain is no longer in charge).

Luv ya! <3

One day it will make sense

[omnicentricity cuddles and breastfeeds newborn MMe M to sleep]