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Just wanted to add my two cents here. I used Goldline as someone above mentioned. My account rep there advised me to buy private silver because there is some talk of the confiscation thing being called in again. The 'junk silver' that George Green talks about is private and not confiscateable like bullion is. I bought Ben Franklin half dollars which are 90percent silver. As long as you spend at least a thousand dollars US you can order from an actual person. Less than that and you have to use their online store. Delivery time right now is about three weeks. If nothing crazy happens in a few hours and we can still make transactions, it's definitely the place to buy from. Anyone who wants more info or phone number and extension of my account rep can PM me and I'll be glad to share info. They have never not bought back their metals AND you get a satisfaction guarantee on your first purchase with them or your money back.
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Astraya;
Thanks for the post, I had heard that US dealers were out of everything, but was not aware that they were cleaning us out as well. 100 coins is over 90 Large if you are buying one ounce .999's, How are they getting that kind of money across the border? M |
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100 coins x about $17.50= $1750
that's not so hard to get over the border? and they also accept credit cards... |
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seems to be a bit of a shortage down here in oz too.
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For UK people
A friend of mine bought 1oz silver coins from Guernseymint.com and they haven't arrived. I will let you know if they do. He said that they sounded completely legit on the phone so he's not freaking out yet. Also he said ATS bullion are good, though they too run out quite fast. They used to be part of Spinks. |
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I know people who bought from there too, and it was all legit. Pay cash, and dont leave without the gold. If they havent got it, then walk away. A.. |
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I called goldline a few months ago and they tried to use the same spiel on me. then i bought 1000 ounces ? of coins for $25 spot (wnen silver was 18). i got my invoice in the mail and discovered that the coins were 3/4 ounce of silver in small fine print. the invoice said refunds only within 10 days of invoice. i called them to tell them that they promised me ounces and my salesman was misteriously on vacation. i talked to the owner several times. it took several weeks to get my refund. i did not like how they do business. they prey on your naivete' Namaste' |
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I have purchased from gainsvillecoin and AMPEX, been satisfied with both transaction. Recently purchased from TULVING (some people equate him to the infamous soup-nazi) which was a no-nonense experience but the coins shipped yesterday.
Due to the demand, you need to check the websites often as they typically only post what they have on hand to sell, and that changes throughout the day. Sometimes they will take an order for product that will arrive the following week. Don't put all of your investment in metals, it is best to diversify. Peace, Moonbaby UPDATE: The misses just called and the Tulving delivery just arrived. I ordered it last Friday and it shipped yesterday. Can't beat that kind of service. Be advised that with most places you need to wire them the funds from your bank. If you send a check, it maight take a month to receive product. Last edited by Moonbaby; 10-07-2008 at 03:42 PM. Reason: updated with vendor delivery info |
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so as all the hard metal is being bought up, someone with a pile of paper is dumping it into the market to keep the price low while they buy up metal.
Once the hard metal is gone, I bet they stop dumping paper... Fort Knox has 140 Million ounces of Gold, American mines produce 1-2 Million ounces a year. What is the production in Canada? |
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I tried buying gold bars and silver coins in Seattle area. Everyone is telling me IF I buy today I won't see them till at LEAST feb 2009. I said to myself It
will be too late, so I think I'm buying an assault rifle... |
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Evolution22 lives in Seattle, for a little 'useless' information, look at the PNW on a map, look how small Vancouver Island looks, it is BIGGER than Britain (and Madagascar for that matter), and has 1.4 million people on it. Probably about the same number of hungry wild critters. We, whom live in a vast wilderness, have more to take stock of than a were-rabbit or two. You are not even safe from critters on a boat.. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-col...t-renfrew.html SNIP "A bear mauling a man on a boat in Port Renfrew, B.C., wouldn't let go of its victim despite being struck with a gaff, beaten with a hammer and stabbed with sharp objects, one of the rescuers said Wednesday. "It didn't let go until it died right in his boat," said Bruce Miller, who was the first to try to stop the attack. Two men were fishing around 5 p.m. Tuesday when a black bear swam towards their boat and jumped aboard, RCMP Sgt. Roger Plamondon said Wednesday. One of the men threw fish overboard, hoping to distract the bear, but he was still attacked, Plamondon said." END SNIP Buying a gun over metals right now is a wise decision. A bear ate ALL my pinot noir grapes the other night. Hmm, maybe throwing silver coins at him would have convinced him to leave. Or better yet, wishing him away! What if this were more of a survival situation and in confronting the bear with my good wishes and sling shot full of silver Maple Leafs, he charged and ripped me. Bear injuries are horrific, and go septic really, really, fast. They are not clean critters. Projecting UK ideals on West Coast reality is pretty puerile. I could set out tomorrow, walk for 6 MONTHS and only run across the odd, decomissioned, logging road. Eventually, I would cross the 'highway' to Bella Coola. I've been in that area, in the alpine, and believe you me, anyone with a functional synapse would prefer to be armed. Once you leave the urban areas in the PNW, there isn't a whole lot of anything except bush. |
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Thats not gun ownership as we know it in the US. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europea...Rate_Mechanism U.K. adopted it then decided it was not to their liking. |
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hello everobody
Hi there i am trading fx market and commodoties market since more then 10 years. Right now we are watching a prolonged dollar rally which has few more points before it ends and then will have some range trading. ( probably ) So anyone knows that when the dollar rises commodities fall . But getting back to gold and silver first of all the correction on gold from technical point of view will extend more like to below 740 usd oz and silver to below 9 usd oz, so everyone in the near future will have a chance to catch the price lower. I have seen that a lot of people here are saying that its hard to get gold and silver, this is true but not exactly .Remember that the mints and bulion shops increase the margin in such panic times to make more profit and the difference between spot and real prices increases especially in sliver where u have the VAT . The mints are normally working and the delays are from big demand caused by stock market crash. In just one month the mints will have probably oversupply of gold and silver. Once more about stocks and forex market, such big moves where appearing before this is nothing new , the dow was loosing more one day then now like in 1987 , its all caused by to highly levereged accouts, and complex products, and strucuteres. Like the eurusd its been going up since 2001 so now it just corrects. The real problem is the luck of liquidity, and once this will be corrected things will be ok - at least for sometime. Remember all such cases in the markets where before but people didnt take lessens from history and played with highly levereged instruments . Imagine if you buy stocks and you have a levereged of 10 times if the stock moves your way up 10 % you make 100 percent, but if it moves against you u loose all unless u pay money in to cover your margin call So most loosers come from greed and bad money managent systems or complite luck of them which makes their trading a monopoly game Take care everybody |
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Just a funny, to add a little light to a bad situation:
Retirement Planning If you had purchased $1000.00 of Nortel stock one year ago, it would now be worth $49.00. With Enron, you would have had $16.50 left of the original $1000.00. With WorldCom, you would have had less than $5.00 left. If you had purchased $1000 of Delta Air Lines stock you would have $49.00 left. But, if you had purchased $1,000.00 worth of beer/wine one year ago, drank all the beer/wine, then turned in the cans/bottles for the recycling REFUND, you would have had $214.00. Based on the above, the best current investment advice is to drink heavily and recycle. Last edited by NatureGirl; 10-12-2008 at 12:48 AM. |
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YES, I believe the AMERO will come.....and probabely sooner than some expect. There is too much noise around this new currency since more than a year.
Now what the exchange-ratios will be is very difficult to say and I believe the following points and arguements needs to be taken into consideration (important, since I am Swiss I may have a bit of different view, than some US citizens - and more mistakes in the text ![]() - when the AMERO comes, there will be enough noise ahead of the announcment and I expect the US Dollar to weaken and drop massively - it only makes sence to introduce a new currency, if you can get ride of some other problems and the biggest is in this case the outrageous debts of United States - so what ever the real debts are, but with the introduction of the AMERO, US wants to get rid of the debts - this is one arguement that may justify the rumour that 800 billion AMERO's have been shipped to China, remember China has > USD 2000 billions cash and they don't really know what to do with it...they bought already Freddies and Fannies...you know the result - and still (if they (FED/government) don't lie in this case as well) US has the biggest Gold reserve >9000 tons = roughly USD 400 billions. Actually why they manipulate down the price of the funny-paper-money-COMEX Gold but didn't sell (at least officially) an ounce of Gold compared to other western central banks. - this means, that I can imagine that the AMERO might even be gold-backed or at least partially - taking just the said above into consideration; one will definitely not get more than 0.5 AMERO for 1 USD - when they want to net-up the debts with the gold reserve the USD may loose 90% of its value...so the exchange-ratio is probabely rather 0.1 AMERO for 1 USD = 10 USD for 1 AMERO - But what about the 1 AMERO / Silver-Ratio? Right know one could go long 1 ounce of Silver at roughly USD 11 at COMEX. Which means that of 0.1 AMERO for one 1 USD is correct, that 1 AMERO is about 1 ounce of Silver....now there is one little mistake in there - 11 USD for one ounce of Silver is probabely the biggest ******** the plunge protection team or I call it the BBP (Bush - Bernanke -Paulson) achieved to manipulate down. The real and correct price of Gold right now and inflation-adjusted is rather someting between USD 2000 - 3000. Lets take 2000. Right now one gets roughly 80 ounce Silver for one ounce of Gold. This ratio is a ******* joke, if one has look at the primary deficit that exists in the Silver market since more than 15 years and the fact, THAT WE HAVE PEAK-SILVER. Planet Earth will run out of Silver within the next 15-20 years, before we run out of crude oil. - So what is a correct Gold/Silver-Ratio? I believe already today it should trade between 15 and 30. Longterm (5 to 10years) Silver will trade at the same price or higher than Gold does. But ok, lets take 30. - I took Gold @ USD 2000 / 30 (Gold-Silver/Ratio), which give roughly USD 60, which is the price where Silver should trade today: Now you will say, the Swiss guy has a sort of a chocolate flash (by the way chocolate makes happy) or he had to much Swiss Cheese Fondue: NO, I believe Silver should trade TODAY at worthless USD 60. - BUT: Gold @ 2000 seems to be a high price right now; should the AMERO be Gold-backed or partially Gold-backed and the US is without debts after the AMERO introduction, you might well add minimum another 0, in such a case Gold could be between USD 50'000 and USD 100'000. This may also be one of the reason, why US FED / government block US mint to continue to deliver Gold and Silver in the US. Now USD 50'000 USD 100'000, what will this be worth when the AMERO comes...YES ZERO! But one physical ounce of Gold will have the purchasing power of USD 50'000 to USD 100'000 in AMERO terms I believe the purchasing power of 1 ounce of Gold will definitely go up by 5 times, depending on how they play the game this purchasing power factor could be even between 10 and 50. Remember Hyperinflation in 1923 in Germany. In 1923 with 500 gramms of Gold you could buy 1 building block! So all this we had it already! But the purchasing-power-turbo is Silver: As I said Silver is so much too cheap, only a few people know about it! So go and get some physical Silver somewhere.....do a trip to Europe. When you need assistance in this, please let me know! The most important really is, try to get some Silver or Gold before the AMERO will be introduced. When the AMERO comes you start to sell it! Cheers, silverman ![]() |
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Would buying junk silver which is 90% pure silver and 10% copper, be a good investment if the currency does change to the Amero? The coins are not silver eagles, but US nickles, dimes, and quarters that where minted in 1964 and earlier. Would these be good to buy in bulk?
I also found a place that sells industrial silver in the form of bb sized grain. Its .999 pure silver grain. Would purchasing silver in this or any other form be wise? Last edited by gwangsun; 10-16-2008 at 06:14 AM. |
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What are the quantities of silver grain you could purchase. I might be interested! Thanks for your feedback. Greetings, silverman |
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