Oct6th - Dow jones -500 / -4.60% level 9865.00

[Xhaosis]

what people should be concerned about but not alarmed, is if employers cannot pay the employee. Then you will SEE collapse. If these corps that are being traded on these imaginary $$ markets cannot rebound something like that has the slightest possibility of happening. Its just very ironic that the markets have come to this and NO one who is a ceo, or some college business grad with master's or something or in the government did not see this coming. Not a big conspiracy guru or anything but with the speed and magnitude of this market failure it does not make sense. So either they have a control on this thrill pill, and will play the pilot of the storm role, and not let it get to badly out of control. Or the people that are in these positions of leadership are more stupid then was presumed. Even if their was gain from sub prime corruption what good is that gain with a broken market? That takes that theory out of my mind. I dunno, their is not much ordinary people can do, except hope things get better and continue to take care of yourself and or your Family.

[THE eXchanger]

what percentage of people - invest in these markets ???

the top 20% of the population (must have 80% of the money in the market)

followed by the next 40% of the population,
who have money invested in bonds/pensions/and,
all that assortment of stuff
that most of us, under the age of 50--
are NEVER going to ever collect

from a "robinhood persceptive"

it's like the ultra rich raping the rich

how many of us, have our money in there anyway ???

so what, if all that falls apart

maybe, we would best be
making our toys at home (instead of importing them from china)
maybe, we would best be
buying produce, from local people
(instead of transporting it all over hells half acre,
keeping the oil/and, gas companies rich)
these guys, make billions of dollars of profit quarterly,
their customers do NOT, maybe,
we should all stay home, for 22 days,
and, NOT go to work, or, spend any money,
until they lower the prices !!!
(and, yet, so many things, we could do, we do NOT do)
we keep pumping and paying !!!
(sooner or later, the well runs dry)
when we do say, we have had enough
(do we really care, about the ultra rich, raping the rich)?

curious susan
the Exchanger

[Xhaosis]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

what percentage of people - invest in these markets ???

the top 20% of the population (must have 80% of the money in the market)

followed by the next 40% of the population,
who have money invested in bonds/pensions/and,
all that assortment of stuff
that most of us, under the age of 50--
are NEVER going to ever collect

from a "robinhood persceptive"

it's like the ultra rich raping the rich

how many of us, have our money in there anyway ???

so what, if all that falls apart

maybe, we would best be
making our toys at home (instead of importing them from china)
maybe, we would best be
buying produce, from local people
(instead of transporting it all over hells half acre,
keeping the oil/and, gas companies rich)
these guys, make billions of dollars of profit quarterly,
their customers do NOT, maybe,
we should all stay home, for 22 days,
and, NOT go to work, or, spend any money,
until they lower the prices !!!
(and, yet, so many things, we could do, we do NOT do)
we keep pumping and paying !!!
(sooner or later, the well runs dry)
when we do say, we have had enough
(do we really care, about the ultra rich, raping the rich)?

curious susan
the Exchanger

once again, calamity in the World market indicates change. The source of the problem then, as it appears willing or unwilling reacting to its own instinctive nature, showing that it is masses of consumption that has brought on this crisis, In order to fix any problem you have to find the source of that problem, then you must try to figure out how to fix it. So how do you fix it? The market measures the value, how is that value determined? How is it perceived? When that value is not met what is done? Its not believed in.

[LOCOAZ2008]

http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/index.html

LOOK UP TO WORLD MARKETS

Hong Kong HSCC Red Chip -242.80 -7.04% 3,207.93
Europe Euronext 100 -59.92 -8.56% 639.90
Germany TECDAX -76.73 -11.27% 604.17

AN SO!!!!

I THINK TOMOROW WILL SEE.....

[wes_whitewolf]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

what percentage of people - invest in these markets ???

the top 20% of the population (must have 80% of the money in the market)

followed by the next 40% of the population,
who have money invested in bonds/pensions/and,
all that assortment of stuff
that most of us, under the age of 50--
are NEVER going to ever collect

from a "robinhood persceptive"

it's like the ultra rich raping the rich

how many of us, have our money in there anyway ???

so what, if all that falls apart

maybe, we would best be
making our toys at home (instead of importing them from china)
maybe, we would best be
buying produce, from local people
(instead of transporting it all over hells half acre,
keeping the oil/and, gas companies rich)
these guys, make billions of dollars of profit quarterly,
their customers do NOT, maybe,
we should all stay home, for 22 days,
and, NOT go to work, or, spend any money,
until they lower the prices !!!
(and, yet, so many things, we could do, we do NOT do)
we keep pumping and paying !!!
(sooner or later, the well runs dry)
when we do say, we have had enough
(do we really care, about the ultra rich, raping the rich)?

curious susan
the Exchanger

I agree. Has everyone see the Zietgeist Movie Addendum yet? The take home message is that inorder to move away from the corrupt monitary system we are currently tied to, we will have to face big challenges (walk through fire) before things get better. So yes, this is all something we really need to go through. Question is, how many of you are going to take a stand on the other side of this coming s*t-storm and not allow these same criminals to come out of their underground fortresses to start the crap all over again. Unfortunately this country and most of the world for that matter are utterly ignorant...most people still don't see this coming. So unfortunately, its going to take some really difficult times ahead to shed this ignorance. Lets just do it and get it over with!!!!

[THE PEACEFUL WARRIOR]

Also of note, sorry don't have the figures to hand:

Earlier in the day...

Japanese Markets closed at a recored low, biggest drop for 4 years.

Hong Kong closed at record low, biggest single day drop for 4 years.

UK and FTSE closed at a record low, biggest drop for blah blah blah...

Also Asia is on Bank Holiday tommorw so cannot be effective players in the game when they press the button tommorow!

It's gonna be a financial Nuclear Bomb and it's gonna roll round the markets like a Tsunami...It's sure looking like it's gonna be the Muvva of all crashes!

Word Up - PEACE OUT

[Carol]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

what percentage of people - invest in these markets ???

the top 20% of the population (must have 80% of the money in the market)

followed by the next 40% of the population,
who have money invested in bonds/pensions/and,
all that assortment of stuff
that most of us, under the age of 50--
are NEVER going to ever collect

from a "robinhood persceptive"

it's like the ultra rich raping the rich

how many of us, have our money in there anyway ???

so what, if all that falls apart

maybe, we would best be
making our toys at home (instead of importing them from china)
maybe, we would best be
buying produce, from local people
(instead of transporting it all over hells half acre,
keeping the oil/and, gas companies rich)
these guys, make billions of dollars of profit quarterly,
their customers do NOT, maybe,
we should all stay home, for 22 days,
and, NOT go to work, or, spend any money,
until they lower the prices !!!
(and, yet, so many things, we could do, we do NOT do)
we keep pumping and paying !!!
(sooner or later, the well runs dry)
when we do say, we have had enough
(do we really care, about the ultra rich, raping the rich)?

curious susan
the Exchanger

I really like your thoughts on this susan. The 22 day strike sounds good to me.

[Big A]

Originally Posted by Xhaosis

what people should be concerned about but not alarmed, is if employers cannot pay the employee. Then you will SEE collapse. If these corps that are being traded on these imaginary $$ markets cannot rebound something like that has the slightest possibility of happening. Its just very ironic that the markets have come to this and NO one who is a ceo, or some college business grad with master's or something or in the government did not see this coming. Not a big conspiracy guru or anything but with the speed and magnitude of this market failure it does not make sense. So either they have a control on this thrill pill, and will play the pilot of the storm role, and not let it get to badly out of control. Or the people that are in these positions of leadership are more stupid then was presumed. Even if their was gain from sub prime corruption what good is that gain with a broken market? That takes that theory out of my mind. I dunno, their is not much ordinary people can do, except hope things get better and continue to take care of yourself and or your Family.

people in the gold market have been warning about this for years now. just listen to a gold radio show and you will find out whats really going on out there not what cnbc is telling you. Larry kudlow will still tell you we are in a goldylox economy ...lol. or ask some one in constuction we felt the pinch coming year and a half ago and it just now getting out there on TV