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I am intriugued by AVERAGEJOES premise regarding Bill Deagle....though of course there have been films with these images - ART REFLECTS REALITY!
If he did have a genuine vision is it that it is part of his own fears coming out?? Was he 'told'to say this at theis time becuase this scenario has got to be put in the public doamin for a reason? I find the very long post on page 5 by DBDOWLIN very interesting regarding us being aware of fear scenarios and that fear is collapsing in on itself! Destroying itself and if a thing such as Dr Deagle proffesses was attempted the event would infact speed up the destruction of 'fear' and anything fear based or would not happen or be allowed to happen....if I understand correctly.... Last edited by eurosceptic; 10-05-2008 at 10:45 PM. |
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I put my hands up to feeling something of a lump in my throat last night on listening to Bill and Kerry's posting from Dr Deagle.
It [I]did[I] cause fear and I have to say, in accord with the guy who contacted his ex-wife, it presented me with the dilemma of contacting an ex of mine with whom I haven't spoken since we broke up two years ago. What a great re-introduction ! I was playing the potential conversation in my head...'Yeah... I know we haven't spoken in a while, but I have something really important to tell you....' ![]() And I was thinking should I text this warning, email or the personal touch....?! lol... can you see how daft that is? how uncentred? I'm sure she's perfectly happy - and life will look after her as well as it does for me. For me to tell her (and instill fear), she could no doubt tell those important to her (and spread the fear further) Now before anyone berates me for finally deciding against telling her of her impending doom. I'd like to say that in life, I've always run with a similar attitude to Thunderbird and many of the other really positive posters on here. What is amazing to me, is that the real triumph we should all be looking at, is the gathering of so many people (and not just proj Av) who are working and wanting for positive change of our outmoded, outdated, selfish, fear-driven society. Of course, it's our spiritual connections we should be maintaining. And fantastic that this forum helps us to help each other. I fully recommend Thunderbird's 'why things are Awesome' thread as an antidote to anyone feeling overcome with the heebie geebies. (Thunderbird - Man, if you ever turn out to be a disinformation agent...you're a breath of fresh air ! Keep up the positive posts ![]() Of course this is potentially serious stuff, and maybe the access to a lot of background reading has got some of us wound tighter than a top. But when we consider the genuine effort being made by thousands, it does indeed warm the heart. ![]() Just remember that no quantity of freeze dried food can do that. Peace n Love K |
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Right, but I'm imagining that we are right now being a "human battery". Perhaps we could have a "Human Battery" thread, but we are capable of forming this battery right here and now.
Now if Bill and Cary sponsor a webconference then we can really make thing zing!!! My immediate question is what can I do to turn the tide on October 7? Quote:
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I hope Dr Deagle is right, I think he's over pessimistic, I remember watching his Google video from the Granada forum, he mentioned something will happen in Apr/2008, be prepared with your graves ? when and where it will occur?
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And if all that information out there has actually came in the form of "visions" then we have nothing to worry about. Although, of course not all of it has.... Quote:
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Greetings to The Future Self!
The following is on the webfrontpage of MSN: Sunday, October 05, 2008 Is it illegal for U.S. citizens to have contact with extraterrestrials? (http://find.msn.com/search.aspx?q=It...ls&form=MSNIIT) Take good care. RaKaR www.futureofmankind.co.uk |
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There is no question Dr. Deagle had a powerful dream/vision. I feel the manipulation of him by dark forces to cause fear, will in fact backfire and result in many tuned in people to choose to act in earnest and and in unity to thwart and contain this darkness. You may have been hearing David Wilcock, but not listening. Wilcock said, in effect, "A single dream/vision does not a prophet make... no matter how many times the prophet has done it before!" (My words) Dreams and visions are usually symbolic and cryptic. Validation and confirmation is usually needed prior to just throwing it out to the world for them to take on face value. Wilcock indicated that (in my words) giving the prophesy without the interpretation is not always productive and is his main problem that he has with Deagle who does that now and has in the past. But, you probably did not get that part because you were already busy venting. If you just now started to do your own research on David Wilcock, you would still be researching because he is not only intuitive, and brilliant, but an avid researcher in his own right. He is into, and on top of, a lot of topics. David does not say things without a lot of sources and evidence to back it up. The most casual researcher into David Wilcock would quickly realize that to be true. David Wilcock is not one to be taken lightly. He should not be dismissed so easily and you do yourself a disservice to do so. Oh, and as I recall, Bill and Carrie asked David Wilcock for his opinion and he gave it. It is as simple as that. He responded openly and candidly why he could not review the Deagle audio at the present time. He then gave justification as to why he feels like he does about Dr. Deagle announcements. Why should one man's opinion be an issue? It shouldn't. And, my final point is... who are YOU? You use this forum just to vent and attack David Wilcock as a person? You bring a disservice to this web forum. Does his history disqualify him to the point where his opinion is less valid than yours? I think not. Thank you for your post, but I am sure you can be more positive than this. |
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@ izz: I believe kopenhagen messed up the wording and actually meant "wrong," otherwise the sentence is really weird.
Anyway, as I pointed out before, it was a "vision" of the future, which means it's a "possibility" and not certainty. And possibility it is, we know They have some stupid nuclear plans but that's ok, they've had plenty other stupid plans that didn't work out. I don't believe it will come to nuking anything, people really are awakening, even in higher places, and the evil plans are malfunctioning more and more. Also remember that Bill's interpretation was that something economic would start on 7th October, and that he doesn't know the timeline for the "nuke" thing, only that it would be a result somewhere down the line. It could be a year from here [IF it should happen at all]. So just in case, for anyone who freaked out too much to pay close attention, nobody said there would be a nuke explosion in October, or any time this year, ok? Stay calm, don't panic, don't think about it too much, don't imagine it, keep your mind on a positive vision of future etc. It's all just information about possibilities, so focus on the ones that you want to see come true. Whatever information comes from anyone, true or false, WE can decide if we use it the wrong way or the right way. We can turn ANYTHING into something good, so let's just do that. |
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He's hardly the leading light on predicting something to happen on October 7th is he?
I could have phoned Bill and Kerry and said there was going to be an economic crisis beginning October 7th, this rumour has been going around for months! |
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It's amazing how no one knew about these so-called "Al-Qaeda" goons until after 9-11. Now, supposedly, we're on the "verge of victory" against these guys according to Ms. Palin. I am really ashamed on how our glorious USG talks down to us like we're a fistfull of idiots. Then we have Fox news which is another faction of lies and crap that they try to feed you and make you believe. When is all of this going to end? I think most of us, deep inside, have a weird feeling of big changes coming on. I do not believe (I better not have to eat my words) what Dr. Deagle had dreams of. I don't believe we'll have a nuclear exchange anytime soon, nor ever. I do believe, however, that we will be going through some very difficult times but we will survive (most of us) and just keep living the natural process of this planet. The main thing to focus on here is to BE POSITIVE, be part of the solution to solve the planet's problems by helping another human.......remember "Pay It Forward".
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I'd just like to point out that everybody, apart from you, knew about these Al Quaeda "goons" before 9/11.
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Call me ignorant but I think it's all a bunch of baloney. This is the same guy who was ranting on about (cough cough) Planet X? Spare me.....
Bill and Kerry? Why did you guys make this look like some kind of a showdown? I'm sorry to say but that's uncalled for. The wording used on the update conveyed a sense of confrontation between Deagle and Wilcock to me. Last edited by BPhill; 10-06-2008 at 01:21 AM. |
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From my trek through Oz... I keep in mind that ALL minds have been tampered with, yours, mine, Deagle's, everyones'. A smaller percentage have been particulary tampered with, and not merely those that have worked in high level "inside" positions. Triggers are triggers and even though you may be aware of some of your own, when they happen, awareness alone (should you be up on it) will not always prevent the desired outcome of what ever programming was inserted.
Conviction, that is the premise of Deagle's message in that call... no one's opinion matters. Imagine making something like this public KNOWING the ramifications of everyone's opinions.. yeah, right, he welcomes that ya think? Take what morsels you gleaned. I respect his offerings. I respect Wilcocks as well tho I too was affected (I'm human) by his insertion casting doubts on Deagle's credibility, something he knows better than to do... even our whistleblowers get pretty miffed off huh? I particularly liked the part where Kerry mentions how beneficial it would be for all "whistleblowers" to come together in support of one another, but, alas, just as on this site, it's bicker after bicker after bickering. Opinions ad nauseum. I opt to stay in observer mode. But since dollars have been created out of "nothing"... heck let's invest some debt money no-things on some tangibles. Speculation and opinions never cease... Beliefs are traps... and Alison Kraus rocks!! |
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Trust in yourself and your own instincts. Question EVERYTHING! Take personal responsibility for your posts and actions.
Do not believe everything you hear! Question what a person or websites motive might be for spreading Gloom and Doom. It is now an industry, and there is a lot of profit to be made for those that have websites selling FEAR. The egos involved in all of this are huge. They will never admit they are/were wrong, or take responsibility for the damage they create. They will preach Light and Love, but will feed you gloom and doom. And when and if the SHTF... you won't be able to find them because they are hiding someplace safe and secure on the money you sent them. Please think for yourself. Live and enjoy your life. Love your friends and family. Support your community and country. Know that you are loved and needed more than you will ever know. Be cool. Stay calm, and meet the future head on with the knowledge that this too... shall pass. |
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To my understanding, Deagle said that the trigger would happen Oct 7th which would be of a financial nature. It may not be an event that the masses are even aware of but could be some "behind the scenes" event that may take a few days or weeks to materialize to a point that we see it. So even though no "obvious to us" disaster could occur on Oct 7th, the "freefall" will begin that morning.
Also, he says that the second event (nuclear) and the third (pestilence) would unfold over the next year or two. All three could happen on Oct 7th or they may elapse over a year or two, beginning with the financial trigger on Oct 7th. "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself'" |
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Our apologies if it did come over in some way (to some) like a 'showdown' - that was definitely not our intention. We were really scrambling yesterday when we posted this. Kerry was woken up by Bill Deagle's phone call sometime round about 5.15 am (here in Australia) and she called me in my room soon after, shaken. I jumped out of bed and ran to her room, several hundred yards away. We called Dr Bill, and captured the live conversation. Immediately afterwards we called a bunch of other people for comments and reactions and managed to speak to Michael St.Clair, Rebecca and David. We recorded the last two and had to edit, export, compress, upload, write updates on the site - and (mea culpa) messed up the links in the process because I never had time to double-check by testing the pages themselves. All this time we had not had anything to eat and were hyped up on several strong cups of coffee each. On top of this, we had our major NEXUS presentation - the entire reason we were here at all! - later that same afternoon, just a few hours away, and we were replanning that in the light of the morning's events. (It was a great success, btw.) None of this is by way of flimsy excuse... just to share with you what it's like for us on the road when this kind of thing happens. My favorite feedback e-mail ever is still the one from the person who confessed that he had wondered for a while whether we were really working for the government... but then decided that we definitely could not be because we were so disorganized. ![]() More seriously: Bill Deagle phoned Kerry again a short while ago. I was not there when he called. He wanted to thank us. He is a sweet man: values-driven, deeply caring, emotional, vulnerable, brave, intense, brilliant, imperfect - as are we all. Meeting him last week at his home helped us both realize who he really is - relaxing with his family, seeing him relating beautifully and sensitively with his Downs Syndrome daughter, kicking his shoes off, joking about his weight (he's put on a few pounds), making us welcome after a long journey. To AVERAGE JOE: Quote:
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Can someone get a link that works up, I keep getting "400 Bad Request"
for the link "http://projectavalon.net/bill_deagle_4_oct_2008.mp3" Thanks in advance. Edit: I am burning to hear what this is about. |
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This thread illustrates "Avalon" in action. Not victims, but activists who are all on the front line of a spiritual brigade. What I notice in this thread is how our Avalon community is stepping up to the plate. This network is made up of people from all around the world who share a common vision. Avalon folks walk their talk by working toward creating a positive vision of the way life is meant to be lived. What I have observed is how this ground crew community listens to the “shamans” of our era who predict a “probable” outcome if people don’t take action. The shamans are the dreamers of what may come, but not what is coming, if those who listen take action to avert negative energy with positive intention and prayer. I feel both very grateful and honored to be among such an outstanding group of enlightened human beings. We are the ones we’ve been waiting for and our work is just unfolding. Thank you so much for sharing your visions of positive spiritual intention and making the time in your busy daily life to help redirect our future toward the light and into the heart of god.
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I consider myself the biggest doubter here.
With that said, I have been researching Deagle's claims longer than I've known about Camelot. I found Camelot while looking into Deagle's claims. There is much about what he says that I don't know about, nor can a corroborate. But there is even more that is true - you just have to pick apart what he says (use the Granada Forum lecture) and be willing to invest some time at a good library. The bad guys don't really bother to hide what they are doing anymore - if you look hard enough, it is all right out there in the open. If Deagle says the chit is about to meet the fan, I'm inclined, at the very least, to be prepared for the possibility of moving quickly to a preplanned safe area. May you all do the same, and be safe. |
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'And the Oscar for funniest line uttered in a drama goes to...DeadDeadDead'
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