14th October 2008

[Average Joe]

After reading much of this channelled info, I'm very much of the opinion that it is not real but a figment of Blossom's imagination.

What she, in my opinion, is channeling is really her own inner thoughts and hopes about what she wants to happen. Read the messages, they are just too lovey dovey and human. Too "we will show you the way to ascend", too I dunno, just too perfect.

If Aliens come on October 14th as predicted, with pretty much Blossoms message as predicted, I will eat my house. Brick by brick.

I'd LOVE a giant spaceship to appear. I'd LOVE to stand there thinking "ha! I knew it! Lets see people deny ET now!", but lets face it, this belongs in the garbage can with all the other previous predictions made by people that never happened, and is just not going to happen at all.

[Sanat]

Originally Posted by Average Joe

After reading much of this channelled info, I'm very much of the opinion that it is not real but a figment of Blossom's imagination.

What she, in my opinion, is channeling is really her own inner thoughts and hopes about what she wants to happen. Read the messages, they are just too lovey dovey and human. Too "we will show you the way to ascend", too I dunno, just too perfect.

If Aliens come on October 14th as predicted, with pretty much Blossoms message as predicted, I will eat my house. Brick by brick.

I'd LOVE a giant spaceship to appear. I'd LOVE to stand there thinking "ha! I knew it! Lets see people deny ET now!", but lets face it, this belongs in the garbage can with all the other previous predictions made by people that never happened, and is just not going to happen at all.

If it was only that one message from one person I would tend to agree. But that is not the case.

I would recommend this site for a summary of channeled messages etc. which confirms this. It has never happened that any of these messages have given out specific dates like this. They have been in this business for many years and have a lot of readers. I ask myself: Why risk it all on one australian womans bet? I am talking specifically about: Suzy Ward channeling "Matthew" and also Mike Quinsey channeling different ET beings 3 times a week. Here is a collection of them (and others I am not that familiar with) confirming this event on numerous occasions:

http://www.cosmiclighthouse.com/node/1638

[Sanat]

Another "sign" from Blossoms latest channeling:

Accept us in your TRUTH as we draw closer to your earthly vibration, and remember of the (small) tremor that we spoke of. We speak of this so that there shall be no cause for alarm.

Someone asked if it was to be a physical or earthly tremor? I said both.

It is to be a shuddering within the core of your earth, but it shall cause no damage. It simply can not be avoided. It is of no harm. It shall take place a few days before the time of our appearance.

Also the word "Diamonds" is mentioned as the riddle in the end...

http://10-14-08.blogspot.com/2008/10...annelling.html

[Average Joe]

How do we know that the other channellers have not simply jumped on Blossom's bandwagon?

I don't believe a word of it, its not real.

[Sanat]

Originally Posted by Average Joe

How do we know that the other channellers have not simply jumped on Blossom's bandwagon?

I don't believe a word of it, its not real.

Then your mind is made up, and we have nothing further to discuss. But since the part of you that has not made up its mind yet first asked a question I will try to answer that part of you even if the other part probably will deny any answer up front as well. Here we go:

We don't "know" anything in this business. However, I am very familiar with the two channelers I mentioned as I have read a lot of their messages. I find that the integrity of their messages is very high. By "jumping on Blossom's bandwagon" they are really risking a lot, and they have no reason to do so as they were doing just fine before and have done fine for a long time already. That was my point.

The only good outcome for them by risking it all like this, is that they are actually telling the truth and this thing actually happens on the 14th or not to far off that date. All other outcomes will be a serious blow for them. So either they are all being fooled by some "dark entity", or they are telling the truth. The reason we can be pretty certain about this is that they have absolutly nothing to gain by "lying" about this.

[Sanat]

A good thing to take into consideration:

This mission has an overview and an objective; however, it does not have a battle plan. One reason for this is that we are not in a battle. Another reason is that all our movements are directed by Spirit and change constantly in response to Spirit’s requests. For this reason, you must also be willing to alter your plans in accordance with Spirit and go where you are summoned at a moment’s notice. What was true yesterday may not be true tomorrow. You must learn to rely on Spirit for all your up-to-the-minute instructions.

This reliance on Spirit is the mission. It is also your direct line to Mission Control and all its forces. (Remember, Mission Control is not an outside authority. We are a service, both internal and external, that strongly recommends you do not look to outside authority for your counsel.) No one but your divine Spirit can tell you your truth, where you should be, or what you should be doing. Spiritual self-reliance is the essential shift in consciousness that the mission is here to help implement. It is also the shift you personally agreed to make on behalf of this planet. We exhort you to be ready. Be awake and listen, because the troops of Spirit are now being deployed.

Throughout the process of your awakening and beyond, you have the right to call upon Mission Control, the Council Seats, all Alliances, Federations, and Confederacies of Light, the Ascended Masters, and every kingdom of this planet for assistance. That is just to name a few of your resources. You are a member in good standing on this mission and we urge you to exercise your rights. This is not only for your protection; it is the very means by which higher dimensional energies can legitimately gain entry onto this plane.

As we have stated before, we do not invade. However, when a member of this mission has earned the status of Earthling by living it and then requests interdimensional intervention or support, we can legitimately answer that request without violating Universal Law. In this manner, our presence will continue to infiltrate this planet for the purpose of bringing it into alignment with the greater Universe of Light. We hope this information makes it clear that “E.T., phone home” is actually very sound advice.

From the "E.T. 101 - The Cosmic Instruction Manual"

[Ali Quadir]

Joe...

You'd know the truth about the impending alien contact. IF you buy Blossom's e-book. It's only 15 dollars you know and can be ordered from her webpage. I know, it might sound strange to charge a few bucks for the most important message in human history. Especially if it might.. you know... Reduce your credibility by suggestion ulterior motives. But you're just going to have to trust her on this one....

Or am I being cynical/realistic/negative?

You're right.... This is not it.
All signs are against it.

And yes there are predators preying on our desires. I didn't want to accuse Goodchild of this. And I still cannot say with absolute certainty that she is doing this just for her own benefits. But what am I to think? She's selling a book. She's also the only source that is not compromised by hearing of this before. And all the other sources that do mention the coming of a ufo place the event much further in the future. AFTER the release of the quarantine. Which is 4 years from now.

Of course, I'm not a time traveller. There is nothing I can say about the future that is absolutely certain. But I can connect the dots. And so can everyone else.

@peaceandlove

There is no race better than us we are all equal, we need to realise who we are. The Andromadens consider us Earthlings royalty because we are the only ones in our galaxy who can make the claim to having the genetics that we have and the possibilities and capabilities of doing what we can do as a race, we're the only ones! Even the amount of emotions we have sets us appart from all the other Humans in the Galaxy.

This is an understatement. The earth can be likened unto a cocoon. And mankind is the butterfly within. The universe is literally holding her breath.


All talk of invasions is utter nuttery I don't know where that concept comes from. There are attempts to bend the events to certain agendas. And probably the notion of invasion comes from these guys. But in the end. That's also just us. Holding ourselves in the cocoon. Even the prophecised antichrist can only to hold us back just a little longer. It's part of the plan. Nothing to fear. It's difficult for a child to get out of the mothers womb, tiring for the mother and for the child. But that is a required part of the process of polarity.

As far as I understand, the ability of mankind to create is unprecedented. The limitations we experience are severe yet they are created by our own power. This in itself is a testament to the power of what it means to be "Human"...

People have come from all over the universe to learn from us! Even though we hardly realize that we're teachers ourselves. Even the lowliest of us has so much to offer.

[Sanat]

If she wanted to cash in she would not have set the date so soon. But rather let it drag out and be more unspecific. She would also most likely not be backed up by other credible channelers like those mentioned. I have no personal desire for this to happen as I am content and happy already no matter what happens. I am simply having fun and participating in this global experiment/experience because I enjoy it very much.

"Hey Joe, what are you doing with that gun in your hand?" Yes, they are "hearing vocies in their head". It is called channeling. If you want to know their "track record" I suggest you start investigating things yourself. It is not my job to "convince" you of anything. Good luck!

[Average Joe]

You are saying that these people are credible. Therefore it is your job to convince me.

[viking]

Originally Posted by Average Joe

You are saying that these people are credible. Therefore it is your job to convince me.

Why do you need Sanat to convince you ..... You have your own mind??!!!

viking

[Average Joe]

Originally Posted by viking

Why do you need Sanat to convince you ..... You have your own mind??!!!

viking

Correct.

Sanat says some of the channelers are credible. All I asked for was some sort of explanation of how they are credible, what they have correctly predicted in the past.....it was not a difficult question.

When I have that info, then yes I can look at things in a balanced way and make my own mind up.

[viking]

Originally Posted by Average Joe

Correct.

Sanat says some of the channelers are credible. All I asked for was some sort of explanation of how they are credible, what they have correctly predicted in the past.....it was not a difficult question.

When I have that info, then yes I can look at things in a balanced way and make my own mind up.

The internet has a vast amount of information..you only need to look yourself...there is no point in going around in circles with Sanat...I really do believe a lot of you people just don't get it/understand .... think about it ....if we really want this to happen IT WILL ... no one person can achieve this by themselves..it has to be US... so the question we need to ask ourselves is ... DO WE WANT THIS TO HAPPEN???? ....

I have asked this question many times and there are so many different scenarios .... but the time is right we need new direction...JUST LOOK AT OURSELVES .. OUR BEAUTIFUL PLANET WHICH WE ARE DESTROYING SO FAST IT HAS BECOME ALMOST IRREPAIRABLE... WE MURDER KILL OUR OWN PEOPLE FOR GREED AND POWER ... I COULD GO ON.... SIT BACK... DO YOU REALLY WANT WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED TO YOU OR WOULD YOU LIKE CHANGE??????? Its not a difficult question is it ....

viking

[Sanat]

There seems to be a huge contradiction here. Some people claim that if they come there will be chaos and confusion etc. And some claim that they will "solve all our problems" if they simply show themselves for 3 days. I don't think either of the alternatives are true.

I think this has been seeded into the mass concsiousness long enough for most people to handle it (remember the "DECIDE WHETHER WE SHOULD SHOW UP!" message that circulated some years ago?). The people/earthlings that are "fast alseep" are so frozen in their patterns that they will not react with panic, but rather with disbelief or denial in the beginning. A lot of people on earth are "slumbering" star kids/adults and I think this would serve as a huge wake up call for many of them. This would have a calming effect on the mass consciousness. Also a lot of such star kids/adults would be in telepathic contact with this ship and other ships to spread the message of Peace that they bring to their surroundings...

As for them "solving our problems" by simply showing themselves for 3 days. That is pure nonsense. Problems are solved on the ground and by the ground crew that has earned their right to do so by incarnating as humans.

I will quote the "E.T. 101 The Cosmic Instruction Manual":

The Interuniversal Banking Community

The members of the Interuniversal Banking Community are here to assist in dismantling the dysfunctionality of this world’s economic structure. They are artists in the use of plastic currency and are armed with true MasterCards, unlimited credit, and the knowledge of how to charge everything.

The basis of their mastery lies in their complete understanding of the plastic nature of reality itself. They are not confused by form; they create it. They know that their attention and fascination are the foundation of the reality they build; therefore, they specialize in withdrawing their consciousness from dysfunctionality and placing it on spiritual truth instead. As a result of their efforts, we will shortly be in a position to present the planetary inhabitants with a viable economic recovery program.

This program entails realigning this planet with the system of divine economics that the majority of the universe currently enjoys. The activity of the Interuniversal Banking Community will assist in the planetary realization that no life needs to earn the right to live. This is not a statement of economic heresy; it is a statement of liberation based on truth. Once a human population has received that medicine, survival will crumble, and unending abundance will flourish in its place.

Carte Blanche is now being extended to the entire human species by the Interuniversal Bank, and its bankers are here to approve unlimited human credit. Mission Control suggests you apply soon.

There should be no disappointment if this does not happen on the 14th. The time for it has come and it will happen very soon anyway.

[Sanat]

Is this the Light ship as many speculate? At least it has the shape of a diamond and is reported to be about 2012 miles in diameter. (Which reminds us that 10-14-2008 = 2012) Judge for yourself!

Ok, problem with the image function. The picture is here: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EJpEq-1gFM...0-h/earth6.jpg

From Blossoms latest channeling:

May this be understood by all. We are not making ourselves known in order to conflict with TRUTHS of the soul. We are making ourselves KNOWN in order to WAKE UP many who still sleep. When they awake, there shall be a new ‘feeling’ upon your planet. The beauty that one feels inside will be expressed out to the world and enhance all things upon and within it.

The newst "jigzaw puzzle" is: "Shine your shoes" whatever that would mean is yet to see

Source for the above: http://10-14-08.blogspot.com/2008/10...elling-13.html

[NeoEmc2]

I've been reading as much as I am able about this event. It's quite exciting regardless of what happens. Just thinking about it gives me a nice feeling and I almost feel like a kid again. Today I ran into a piece of information that I found to be quite interesting and I wanted to share it here.

Here's it is:

In 1975 "The Beings of Light" gave Dannion Brinkley 117 prophesies. Most all have come true. Here is the one pertaining to this comment section. He says, Quote "By the year 2008, the fact that we are not alone in the Universe will be made undeniably clear to everyone alive on the planet. With millions of planets and billions of stars, I cannot fathom how we could have ever thought in any other terms. However for those who have doubted, the extraterrestrials will make themselves known. I believe they feel that they have no choice but to show themselves as we are on the verge of self-annihilation, genocide and toxic poisoning. The truth of our inter-galactic lineage will become common knowledge. If I am to believe the vision, the truth of our inter-galactic lineage will cause humanity to take one wild ride!"

I found this quote in someone's post found here: http://book-of-light.com/forums2/vie...&sd=a&start=30


Here's another bit I find to be a little intriguing and coincidental you could say. I believe there are no coincidences, but what the hell, it'll entertain you guys. Hubble seems to be having problems and NASA had a mission to go repair it on October 14th. However that mission has been canceled. You can read about it here:

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=5909832


And for those of you who are too lazy to look up information on your own, I would recommend you check out the following videos. These are channeled messages from Adamu a social memory complex from the Pleaides. And for the skeptics it's worth mentioning that these messages are completely separate from blossoms message but yet they intertwine.


Planetary first contact part one - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnHdR2GZ3a8

Planetary first contact part two - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb029q4LJ_0

Preparations without fear part one - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkILXA6mR3w

Preparations without fear part two - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD5pfz5DePA

(I tried to embed them but I had no luck. I suck at that stuff)

I recommend you listen to all four videos so you can get a different point of view from the Blossom information. All this does is support her channeled info and give you more hope.

Enjoy

[Ali Quadir]

Originally Posted by Average Joe

You are saying that these people are credible. Therefore it is your job to convince me.

When did this become a discussion of scientific method? The philosophy of the "Burden of proof" seems a little irrelevant to me. Sanat stated many times that if you do not believe in the event then the discussion as far as he is concerned is meaningless. Call that what you will but in the end it means he's not trying to convince. He's just speaking of opinions. You may conclude from that yes that you do not have to believe him if you are inclined to do otherwise.

We all know that if we demand scientific proof of this event or of channeling in general then you're going to get disappointed. It's the reason E.t's do this through channeling in the first place. So people remain free to disbelieve. Obviously if they are in fact in orbit they could just call you on your cell phone.

Lets keep this discussion on a level where people state their opinions and form their own opinions. Lets not invoke the scientific method it is arguably invalid in matters of spirit and consciousness anyway.

We wait 2 weeks and then we will know.. That much is for sure.


Kathy I don't know what you're sitting on. But maybe the best approach would be to forward it to the administrators on this forum? They can forward it to the project camelot people. If you tell them about your uncertainties then they can judge for themselves. If you ask to remain anonymous I'm sure they'll respect that.

The alternative is to just post them on the internet. The disclosure project or wikileaks are two specialized sites. And then let the crowds sort them out. Depending on the risk to your personal safety it might be wise to do this from an internet cafe. I don't know what you have so I cannot judge. I'd recommend against just posting or privately messaging it to strangers, (that includes me) in good faith especially if you have any reason to believe there are people who do not want this to leak out.

[Average Joe]

Originally Posted by Ali Quadir

When did this become a discussion of scientific method? The philosophy of the "Burden of proof" seems a little irrelevant to me.

Its not a discussion of scientific method but one of common sense.

Sanat stated many times that if you do not believe in the event then the discussion as far as he is concerned is meaningless.

I do not believe anything will happen but that does not render discussion meaningless for he, or other people may have something which changes my mind?

Call that what you will but in the end it means he's not trying to convince.

I would say that if he is calling some channellers credible then he is using that to convince......so what is so credible about these channellers, thats all I want to know?

I hate the term lightworker just like i hate the term taxpayer.She has a book out so there is a monetary thing there.I would love for the ETs to make themselves known to man...I just have a problem with someone who has something to gain...Like money.It seems like the masses are more then willing to jump on a bandwagon with no proof.I could channel a message saying I am god for instance.Whos to say????
The term lightworker suggests you are part of something...I always believed I cannot be a part of any organization that is willing to take me as a member.I am simply a number to their cause and not a real person.This is a dark world with dark forces.Whos to say really???
Be weary of anything that says they are gonna help you....just bcuz someone helps you doesn't make them a friend and just bcuz someone craps on you doesn't make them an enemy.
P.S. I had a few brewskies...I am canadian after all!!!hahahaha

[Ali Quadir]

The talk is getting more interesting.

All I care about is to provide info and angles so people can make up their own mind

I think the importance of this is paramount and that importance should be obvious.

The fact that I disagree does not mean I am right. Also when the day arrives and a ufo does arrive in the sky. It certainly does not hurt to have taken part in a discussion about it. Even if you didn't believe it at the time.

Like I said, I also believe it's going to happen some day. I don't think the 14th is the day. But that does not make the discussion any less worth while.

Perhaps they do not want people to believe in and thus be addicted to "external authority", but rather want to trigger/test peoples "inner discernment". Are enough people ready to trust themselves, or do they still depend on someone else to tell them "what is going on"?

You are absolutely right. A big problem on this planet now is our disbelief in our own responsibility, our own ability for greatness. As I said before, the other kind of evil is when someone comes in and takes away that chance for greatness. Us humans are so prone to worship idols, we lose ourselves in the process... Idol worship is when you decide that in order to be complete you have to have the presence of another person who fulfills a part of your dream that you feel you are unable to fulfill yourself.

Every bit of religious madness, is an expression of external authority. We even externalized God! We're even killing each other because someone said he said we should.

Yet in 2 weeks they're going to come down from the skies... Here come these angels who are so perfect, and solve all our problems. How are they going to avoid people getting addicted to "external authority" then? By telling us not to worship them? Rock stars have tried that for years and it didn't work.

I know we disagree most of the time. But do you understand my point of view?

Originally Posted by Average Joe

he, or other people may have something which changes my mind?

Like Sanat said Joe. He's not intending to change your mind. Neither am I. Just in case you're on a "fishing expedition" for a reason to discredit the whole thing I'm going to give you one to save you the problem. It's subjective touchy feely stuff. We all already know that.. Please be as honest as you're open.

I'd like to stick with vikings interpretation of the situation... "Why do you need US to change your mind." It's your mind, change it yourself if you want it changed. I like your mind the way it is.

[elias]

Dear Dear Friends!

There are only two possibilities:
1- They will show up on Oct 14th
2- They will not show up on Oct 14th


So why argue on it? If No #1 happens which I think it is very likely and I hope for it, this means that the channelers were getting their messages from positive entities, which highly resonate with me!

If #2 happens then the messages were given by some negative aliens, on the dark side, to confuse people.

But I really love reading the messages as they are very uplifting ... So PLZ PLZ PLZ don't judge the channelers, for your own sake, even, even if they are channeling negative entities OR even they have not got good intentions, which is very very unlikely.

I personally love the channelers so much, because they are our bridge to other realities.

With RESPECT
Elias

[Average Joe]

Originally Posted by Ali Quadir

Just in case you're on a "fishing expedition" for a reason to discredit the whole thing I'm going to give you one to save you the problem. It's subjective touchy feely stuff. We all already know that.. Please be as honest as you're open.

I don't do fishing.

I have been as honest as I am open.

I have said that I don't think the event will happen on the 14th (my gut instinct), but I tell you what I would LOVE it to happen.

I have asked why people are putting so much stock in these channellers. Forget touchy feely, if they are any good and their visions are to be believed, then they must have a previous track record of success. I have asked for this track record to be presented on several occasions, and on each occasion the questions have been dodged with "search the internet".

Look, I haven't got all day to be searching the internet, thats why I come on here to talk to people who "know stuff".

Now then, do these channellers have a previous record of successful predictions or do they not? Surely this question is exceptionally easy to answer for somebody who follows their work? I don't and never have...I'm relatively new to this sort of thing......thats why I am asking people who should know.

Please do not fob me off and give me some evidence. Even circumstantial evidence will do for a start...something, anything. Then I'll have a better understanding as to why some people think this event may happen. Like I said, personally I do hope it happens, but do I think it will happen? No, because I've got nothing solid to build that feeling on.

I am in no way trying to "discredit" this, what I am doing is questioning the likelyhood off it happening.

At least we won't have to wait long for the answer anyway!

[Average Joe]

Originally Posted by Sanat

Then your mind is made up, and we have nothing further to discuss. But since the part of you that has not made up its mind yet first asked a question I will try to answer that part of you even if the other part probably will deny any answer up front as well. Here we go:

We don't "know" anything in this business. However, I am very familiar with the two channelers I mentioned as I have read a lot of their messages. I find that the integrity of their messages is very high. By "jumping on Blossom's bandwagon" they are really risking a lot, and they have no reason to do so as they were doing just fine before and have done fine for a long time already. That was my point.

The only good outcome for them by risking it all like this, is that they are actually telling the truth and this thing actually happens on the 14th or not to far off that date. All other outcomes will be a serious blow for them. So either they are all being fooled by some "dark entity", or they are telling the truth. The reason we can be pretty certain about this is that they have absolutly nothing to gain by "lying" about this.

Hmmm, I wouldn't go as far as to say they are either lying or deliberately misleading over this. It is reasonable to assume that they truly believe what they say and have good intentions.

It is also reasonable to assume, until proven otherwise, that they are hearing voices in their head.

These channellers that you speak of, what have they got correct in the past? What is their track record?