Feeling un-motivated and quite out of place. And LOTS of paranormal stuff happening!

Bobcat · 10-01-2008, 09:51 PM

I can also relate to you. I have never been able to run with the set system as it didn't make any sence to me. I have also got somewhat cut off from the "sheep" but I do feel a resposability to educate at a gentle rate the people around me " Slowly Slowly Catchy Monkey ".

p.s. I like the exciting things too

Bobcat

Jacqui D · 10-01-2008, 10:00 PM

I always felt school was alien for me, couldn't understand why we had to learn all the drudge when life experience was what seemed more important.

Never been interested in the whole ambition thing was always happy to let someone else get that promotion so on.
Caring for others have always been my game, i have been a long time foster carer and child minder as well as bringing up my own kids.

Always thought i was different to the other kids, always thinking ahead what to do in case of this or that, always watching my back.
always knew that i could look after myself in a have to stay alive scenario.
And this sounds bad but always knew that i could kill if i had to save myself or anyone close to me.
Is that weird or not for a small kid to be thinking those things.

2infinityandbeyond · 10-01-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobcat

but I do feel a resposability to educate at a gentle rate the people around me " Slowly Slowly Catchy Monkey ".

lol. Thanks for that actually. Where trying to 'enlighten' people is concerned ive adopted a "get it down yer" attitude down through the years and it has not worked very well. People just tend to reject great lumps of controversial information (as much as i like to try and put the whole picture into their heads) so im going to try a little bit more of a gentler approach and see what happens.

Cheers for the thought

Oneness · 10-01-2008, 10:23 PM

I've been feeling extremely alone for the last year, unable to share anything with anyone, for fear of ridicule. There are only one or two close friends that I can share the tiniest with...Not even my own family has a clue.

I've always felt different in some way, and it's intensity has magnified over this last year. Many times I began questioning myself. My girlfriend of 5 years even left because she said my ideas where becoming too extreme, besides other things. Nonsense she said.

Now I know I'm not alone. That there ARE others out there....and this forum has been a wake up call for me.

Thank you for letting me share.

Namaste. All of you.

clarkkent · 10-01-2008, 10:03 PM

i feel fine and level headed, but i feel like goddamn NEO in the matrix sometimes when i talk to my friends. theyre all liberal progressive people and dont believe whats told them most the time, but with this they are so sold that our way of life CANNOT change, its impossible for the things i talk about to happen.

ive sent countless links to articles and videos given books etc, none of it does much convincing, i really felt like i was amongst the brainwashed when my buddy said we NEED the bailout, and i said "why?" and he said everyone he respected said we needed it, that just struck me as so naive, anybody with half a brain knows that if BUSH is pushing for it, you should look twice.

the energy it takes even for relatively open people to even investigate all this just a little is huge. ive tried and tried and most friends laugh it off and call me mel gibson in conspiracy theory.

very very frustrating, but i guess theyll believe it when they see it. not much else i can do.
its definitely an insane time, keeping a level head or being positive will tough for a lot of people, even here (as this thread suggests)

-"grey skies are gonna clear up...."

2infinityandbeyond · 10-01-2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by clarkkent

the energy it takes even for relatively open people to even investigate all this just a little is huge. ive tried and tried and most friends laugh it off and call me mel gibson in conspiracy theory.

Ahh that just goes to show you the extent and the effectivness of television brainwashing. Conspiracy theorists are woo woo's! Even though they stick a single generalisation on such an insanly vast topic and completely disregard any information that will follow up after the term 'conspiracy' is mentioned, we are the ones considered moronic tinfoil hat donning cuckoo clocks. Ohh the irony!

gwynned · 10-02-2008, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by clarkkent

i feel fine and level headed, but i feel like goddamn NEO in the matrix sometimes when i talk to my friends. theyre all liberal progressive people and dont believe whats told them most the time, but with this they are so sold that our way of life CANNOT change, its impossible for the things i talk about to happen.

I was fortunate to see David Icke this past weekend in Santa Clara and he talked quite a bit about the Matrix. At one point, he said "We are all NEO." "We are all THE ONE."

I don't know what suddenly triggers someone to start looking outside the prescribed dogma for answers, but unless or until they do, there is almost nothing one can do to change their minds. Like many of you, I seem to have woken up one day and a switch went off. In the end, it just takes too much energy and we need all the energy we can muster if we are to advance our spirituality. For myself, I look at almost every activity as either depleting or enriching, and find myself more and more simply not interested in those activities that many here have identified as depleting - watching TV, hanging out and just talking about mundane matters, shopping at the mall. I'm hell bent on throwing out old stuff, cleaning and getting my house in order. Oddly, Icke mentioned he went through the same process, so there appears to be something there.

He also had an insight into escaping the Matrix which I will share. It's rather obvious, but nonetheless, I find it helpful. If one is in a maze, it's very hard to determine the escape route. However, if one can look down on the maze, it's quite easy. The trick is to use one's intuition and tap into the higher self, so that one can use that higher perspective to find one's way out, rather than using one's reptilian ego brain to think one's way out.

Thanks to everyone for their insights. It's very helpful.

astropsyche · 10-01-2008, 10:04 PM

I wonder if any of you have considered the affects of chem trails? I have been monitoring peoples' moods for some time now and really am convinced that black technologies are being used to affect us all. Depression and lethargy are in the catalogue of desirable negative states the cabal of the military/industrial controllers aim to generate in people.
Also - you may be experiencing blockages of positive, zingy energy because you have not yet found a way to sustain these delightful and precious energies on a daily basis. I suspect in the not too distant future you will encounter the means to give positive expression to these wonderful experiences in your everyday life. Then you will find there is not enough hours in the day for all the things you need to be doing!

GregorArturo · 10-01-2008, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by astropsyche

Also - you may be experiencing blockages of positive, zingy energy because you have not yet found a way to sustain these delightful and precious energies on a daily basis. I suspect in the not too distant future you will encounter the means to give positive expression to these wonderful experiences in your everyday life. Then you will find there is not enough hours in the day for all the things you need to be doing!

Yeah, I feel this is sort of my problem at the moment. I'm an avid fire spinner, so I practice my s*** (poi, staff, contact juggling) for at least a half hour everyday if not more. However, exactly a month ago I tripped and sprained my wrist on my dominant hand. After a week, I took it as a sign to focus more on things like THIS over working out and performing all the time (busking is big bucks in my city). However, not doing my daily exercise, which I've been use to for two hours straight, is rather depressing you could say. Yesterday though was the first day I was able to exercise moderately. I felt great

Bobcat · 10-01-2008, 10:16 PM

No Probs 2infinity,

About 2 years ago I decided to turn off my feelings and stay out of touch with the "extra feelings". So I did just that and I had my kids and went along with the "offness". Then about 6months ago I said to my partner "**** this i'm turning myself back on". i'm happy again

funny how well the switch works :/

Ali Quadir · 10-01-2008, 10:54 PM

Do you guys feel like maybe you're just not connecting to the world?

How many of you had difficult births? I'm going out on a limb here. But there's your physical body, and your light body and if the two are not connecting fullly (or like astropsyche suggests are otherwise blocked) you get the "Not quite there" feeling. And if that's a pattern from birth then it's a minor miracle you survived childhood. So we'd expect some early childhood, birth related problems. Many people who fail to connect just take off right back into the blue yonder leaving the physical shell for worm food.

Your flirts with the risky sports and behavior can be seen as ways to connect to the physical. It's only then that you feel alive. Also if you're really risky it's a way to satisfy that internal desire for the blue yonder.

The reason for not connecting is not always easy to point out. But often it's because you just don't feel comfortable being here. And that might be for a more "mundane" reason than really not belonging here. It might just be traumatic death last time round. If you don't connect then the world can't really hurt you.. Because it's not really real after all... On the other hand, it cannot satisfy you either. As a reference, fully connecting feels quite orgasmic.

Think about it... If you do not belong here... Why are you here? Some cosmic accident? Your soul caught the wrong incarnation vortex? Even if you come here from another place, star system or even galaxy. You came HERE so this is where you chose to be. So this is where you belong.

It worked out for me... As a baby I refused to eat and only slept. I survived and felt disconnected the first 25 years of my life like you guys describe until a friend told me to just bloody connect.. So now this planet is my planet and I'm feeling very much alive. It's your state of mind that's causing the effect, not your situation.

You guys are awesome by the way.. I haven't detected one "normal" person on the forum yet... I think I'll feel right at home here :P

Jacqui D · 10-01-2008, 11:00 PM

I have always said I DID NOT VOLUNTEER TO COME HERE I WAS DRAGGED KICKING AND SCREAMING!!!
I think i was trapped in some vortex or portal, when i entered this earth time, i certainly would never have volunteered.
And if i get a chance of leaving this planet and by the way some of these threads are going it won't be long lol!!
I shall make sure i won't be re entering !!!!!!!!!!

10-01-2008, 11:30 PM

I know how you all feel... its not that everything is mundane, its just that everything is so full of B.S. I cant ignore the smell of the B.S. , and when I try, I just come back to reality. But most people are glad to just ignore the smell, and roll around in it. I just cant do it.

freekatz · 10-02-2008, 12:19 AM

Glad to see there are so many people who feel the way I do! Why are we stuck in this god forsaken drone-like existance? Perhaps it's the same everywhere else but I have to believe there is more to look forward to than this....

Racsouran · 10-02-2008, 12:52 AM

all the people on this forum is very probably feeling the same. At least, the "feel out of place" part.

also seems most people aren´t able to handle the energies that are being released inside themselves.

The personal objetive all of you must take very hardly into account is to integrate those energies into yourselves by working willingly on it. Not easy, but not impossible. I´ts a suggestion that could make wonders, cause if you really left those energies to control you, your life could be, as screwed as it is now, or worse.

10-02-2008, 01:16 AM

Have you heard the interview with the Half Past Human guy Kerry and Bill did which was posted yesterday on Project Camelot. This goes into this subject and why we are feeling this way. Give it a listen and let me know what you think. Cheers.

2infinityandbeyond · 10-02-2008, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuza

Have you heard the interview with the Half Past Human guy Kerry and Bill did which was posted yesterday on Project Camelot. This goes into this subject and why we are feeling this way. Give it a listen and let me know what you think. Cheers.

I tried to Tuza but i just cant make out what he's saying. The transcript is gonna be out soon, im looking foreward to reading it.

Skillet · 10-02-2008, 03:21 PM

Feeling very un-motivated mostly toward my work. Seems like such a waste of time now. The harder I work the less I make. What is most motvating right now is getting in closer contact with the spirital relm, findinding a safe place for my family when the s--- hits the fan, and being three miles off La Jolla in a kayak catching dinner. Thinking very seriously about going off the grid and building a hobbit house in the mountains. My friends and neighbors don't have even a clue. Thank God for this forum! No gloom and doom here, just want to be prepared.

eurosceptic · 10-02-2008, 03:33 PM

yes resonate with that - though in a paradoxical way, society and culture hasnet always provided and obvious framework to do it all in! Culture is the enemy as Terrence Mckenna says.

I'm a big fan of hiking up mountains etc and adventure of course - getting to know the planet a bit better in other words....

I have had 'paranormal' things happen - in the last year a few more things....with less time between them....and recently I have had a surge of very interesting vivid dreams.

cantaloupe · 10-02-2008, 04:55 PM

Great thread, very comforting to know other thinking, feeling folks are going through this stuff too. I gauge the situation partially by keeping an eye on the willingness to listen of those friends who normally glaze over/ change the subject when I bring up topics like these. The energy/ anxiety/ anticipation that is currently insinuating itself into everyones' heads is causing an opening to the alternate views that I am only just now beginning to see. Don't give up!
Keep trying to tell the people you love that these events are occurring. To do so will help us overcome our own resistance to what's coming. I'm scared. I like the phrase "ascension symptoms" because it helps put the fear in context and enables me to try to move beyond it. . I am trying to foster the belief that these are all just challenges and they will be met -BY US! As the chain keeps clicking us to that first plunge of the roller coaster the only thing that I can think to do is to try to keep a loving heart out in front of it all. Thanks, everyone, for contributing here.

Bobcat · 10-02-2008, 06:04 PM

Supose this doesnt sound very man like but...Over the last few weeks I have been crying alot. When I watch/read things about the inocent getting hurt

can't hold my emotions in very well, it's alomst like i feel the pain too and my private pain for their pain.

Funny old thing for a mentaly strong person eh :P

Jacqui D · 10-02-2008, 06:22 PM

Well here we go again, go to bed, get up, do the daily grind;

Help i want to get off!!!!

Irving · 10-02-2008, 07:19 PM

This thread is totally awesome.

I've been surely having a hard time as of lately but have been trying to enjoy every second of the mystery unfold. The biggest reason I have been having a hard time is because of incredibly out of control asthma that I stupidly fueled by smoking cigarettes for years, then being involved in a house fire, and then working an industrial job sandblasting and machine spray painting. I have since quit smoking and I have been struggling to deal with this issue for quite some time but I have still not yet been able to find help to pin down exactly what is wrong with me. I'm afraid at 24 I very possibly already have some sort of permanent lung/bronchial damage that even further aggravates asthma. I struggle to talk and have lost much of the depth and deepness of my voice. This has basically been crippling me as my body feels much like a prison from which I cannot properly communicate from. I constantly avoid hanging out and seeing friends because it depresses me that I cannot properly communicate. I feel like these are my postmodern years because me earlier reckless lifestyle and full tilt rock n' roll attitude have chewed me up and spit me out to be the slightly bitter and damaged person that I am now.

Otherwise I love life and love to be able to be a solid voice of reason and logic during these changing times, but my respiratory problem unfortunately limits me very much. I used to party hard, do occasional drugs of many varieties, play guitar in local and successful rock bands, all the while going to college, and graduating, with a bachelors degree in media studies and philosophy. I have spent many years figuring out what the reality of our world situation is and I feel like I have so much knowledge and information to share but I am not wielding my responsibility well. I have always loved my ability to take on and embrace both branches of intellectual truth searcher and have a good time recklessly rocking. I have surely gone through bouts of depression in the past as well as periods in life of pure ecstasy and I feel that I am now at a plateau where I am somewhat indifferent. I don't think I would shudder if I knew that I was going to die in an hour from now.

I luckily cook in a kitchen for work and I have just about the coolest boss ever, so he doesn't mind when I constantly show up hours late almost everyday. I am not making even enough money to get by and am increasingly spending on credit cards just to buy food. I have a college degree but feel unable to even want to search for a better job because I cannot talk or communicate properly and I know that our current system is about to crash to the ground anyway. I do indeed feel quite alone and trapped in my mind with the information that I have and I have become a bit reckless. I guess I have sort of a melancholy post-modern sadness and frustration while at the same time being meditative and totally living in the now and being happy and content just to hear the silence in between all of the chaos. It sounds contradictory, but it makes sense to me. lol.

I have a family who is utterly clueless as to what is going on and my attempts to enlighten them have been rather futile. I seem to be getting through to them a bit better but I am still far from actually having them seriously listen to me for advice. My father just purchased a large flat screen TV and a brand new Mazda two door convertible and I can't help but think that he is so immature. My older brother has a young baby and I am trying my hardest, through emails and communication, to gently inform them so that they can take precautions, but they just think that I am a conspiracy theorist. They are recklessly sleepwalking into the financial catastrophe and I am desperately trying to help them, but they just don't see it. I also feel pressure from my family to get a "career" and do something with my life. It's hard to tell them that the current paradigm is about to end and that I am killing time until the golden age arrives but that we had all better get seriously ready for some potential hard times during the transformation. Somehow they don't take me seriously when I talk about this, haha. I am now reading Peter Schiff's "Crash Proof" to become better informed to help my family get a fighting chance.

Damn, I could just go on and on about my current state of affairs and how discouraged I sometimes am. haha. My current health condition and other factors have convinced me to not even really to try to survive in the coming years, I want to, but I am just going to go down with the ship. At such a young age I'm already so tired and feel like I'm much older than my actual age. I am ready for ANYTHING to happen to finally force the masses to be involved. In the meantime I still run a blog and I write a lot, so maybe I can do my part to help awaken some more people.

I would agree with all of you that it is very difficult to continue doing the routine tasks of this dying paradigm when you know its all about to end!

I often dream and daydream about the coming utopia and golden age where my health has returned and my family, friends, and girlfriend who left me, understand where I, and others like me, have been coming from for all these years. haha. I can't wait. This post is a little long and probably depressing as hell, haha, but I had to vent I guess. Bring on tomorrow, man. I'm waiting and watching.

2infinityandbeyond · 10-02-2008, 08:10 PM

to the thread Irving.

I started it in the hope that people would talk about themselves and its pretty (id usually say f**king here but ive been warned) 'damn' cool to see so many people willing to talk about themselves, it helps everyone involved. Well, its definitly helping me anyways, pretty cool to know im not alone in my sanity.

What you said about your dad, my dad is going down the same route. Only difference being that he knows theres a financial crash coming, and i guess the only way he can comfort himself right now is through buying a fast motor so he can live it up for a bit (he's a sucker for the girls). His mustache isnt doing it alone these days im afraid so he reckons getting a newer faster car will attract a newer faster woman (lol, i love that guy!). Each to their own i suppose. Im just about to sell my car, buy my own parachute and spend the rest of my days jumping off ridiculously high mountains, id rather die having fun then die in misery waiting for the inevitible crash thats heading our way. Why not like, heck, if the man upstairs wants me to be here he'll incarnate me again, nothing worse then waiting patiently for **** to happen, that will drive you nuts!

Sorry to hear about your chest problems, did you try looking into alternative treatments? From my own experience ive grown to understand that most illness are caused through unresolved mental issues. I'm no expert but it might help you a bit if you check out more 'alternative' treatments.

Morphious · 10-02-2008, 08:27 PM

I know exactly how you feel, I feel the same way. I cant talk to people anymore , it just seems pointless to conversate about stuff thats so mundane. Nothing intrests me much anymore. TV pfft yea right. Even this computer is getting old. BUT i like to hear everything that people say here and find out whats REALLY going on. blah....It's like im waiting for this HUge shift thats comming and boy, do i feel this BIG TIME ! I also feel very charged up with energy , so much so im burning out light bulbs all the time, they never burnt out before ...So i went to an old friends house ( friend of 20 + years) and we were talking and things were fine. I felt very energized when i was there and i think it was a bad time to go there. As we were chatting with a couple other people, He just out of no were started going off about somthing very unimportant, and got in my face and was yelling and almost got into a fight. After i got home and started thinkin about it i came to one conclusion, He was not ready to be around my energy at this time, it was to much for him to handle and he had to get rid of it somehow. This is what i think happend, because he never had got in my face like that before(weird) indeed ! At night i feel like someone is standing there all the time watching me. Just thought i would throw that out there. It's very scary to me as i dont know who or what it is. I have tryied talking with it , them , him , her , whatever it is but get nothing...thats a little of whats going on here ! cheers !

10-01-2008, 09:51 PM	#1
Bobcat Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 98	Re: Feeling un-motivated and quite out of place. And LOTS of paranormal stuff happeni I can also relate to you. I have never been able to run with the set system as it didn't make any sence to me. I have also got somewhat cut off from the "sheep" but I do feel a resposability to educate at a gentle rate the people around me " Slowly Slowly Catchy Monkey ". p.s. I like the exciting things too Bobcat

10-01-2008, 10:00 PM	#2
Jacqui D Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kent,England Posts: 1,267	Re: Feeling un-motivated and quite out of place. And LOTS of paranormal stuff happeni I always felt school was alien for me, couldn't understand why we had to learn all the drudge when life experience was what seemed more important. Never been interested in the whole ambition thing was always happy to let someone else get that promotion so on. Caring for others have always been my game, i have been a long time foster carer and child minder as well as bringing up my own kids. Always thought i was different to the other kids, always thinking ahead what to do in case of this or that, always watching my back. always knew that i could look after myself in a have to stay alive scenario. And this sounds bad but always knew that i could kill if i had to save myself or anyone close to me. Is that weird or not for a small kid to be thinking those things.

10-01-2008, 10:23 PM	#4
Oneness Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Eastern Pennsylvania,Scranton Posts: 95	Re: Feeling un-motivated and quite out of place. And LOTS of paranormal stuff happeni I've been feeling extremely alone for the last year, unable to share anything with anyone, for fear of ridicule. There are only one or two close friends that I can share the tiniest with...Not even my own family has a clue. I've always felt different in some way, and it's intensity has magnified over this last year. Many times I began questioning myself. My girlfriend of 5 years even left because she said my ideas where becoming too extreme, besides other things. Nonsense she said. Now I know I'm not alone. That there ARE others out there....and this forum has been a wake up call for me. Thank you for letting me share. Namaste. All of you.

10-01-2008, 10:03 PM	#5
clarkkent Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 319	Re: Feeling un-motivated and quite out of place. And LOTS of paranormal stuff happeni i feel fine and level headed, but i feel like goddamn NEO in the matrix sometimes when i talk to my friends. theyre all liberal progressive people and dont believe whats told them most the time, but with this they are so sold that our way of life CANNOT change, its impossible for the things i talk about to happen. ive sent countless links to articles and videos given books etc, none of it does much convincing, i really felt like i was amongst the brainwashed when my buddy said we NEED the bailout, and i said "why?" and he said everyone he respected said we needed it, that just struck me as so naive, anybody with half a brain knows that if BUSH is pushing for it, you should look twice. the energy it takes even for relatively open people to even investigate all this just a little is huge. ive tried and tried and most friends laugh it off and call me mel gibson in conspiracy theory. very very frustrating, but i guess theyll believe it when they see it. not much else i can do. its definitely an insane time, keeping a level head or being positive will tough for a lot of people, even here (as this thread suggests) -"grey skies are gonna clear up...."

10-01-2008, 10:04 PM	#8
astropsyche Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 53	Re: Feeling un-motivated and quite out of place. And LOTS of paranormal stuff happeni I wonder if any of you have considered the affects of chem trails? I have been monitoring peoples' moods for some time now and really am convinced that black technologies are being used to affect us all. Depression and lethargy are in the catalogue of desirable negative states the cabal of the military/industrial controllers aim to generate in people. Also - you may be experiencing blockages of positive, zingy energy because you have not yet found a way to sustain these delightful and precious energies on a daily basis. I suspect in the not too distant future you will encounter the means to give positive expression to these wonderful experiences in your everyday life. Then you will find there is not enough hours in the day for all the things you need to be doing!

10-01-2008, 10:16 PM	#10
Bobcat Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 98	Re: Feeling un-motivated and quite out of place. And LOTS of paranormal stuff happeni No Probs 2infinity, About 2 years ago I decided to turn off my feelings and stay out of touch with the "extra feelings". So I did just that and I had my kids and went along with the "offness". Then about 6months ago I said to my partner "**** this i'm turning myself back on". i'm happy again funny how well the switch works :/

10-01-2008, 10:54 PM	#11
Ali Quadir Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 139	Re: Feeling un-motivated and quite out of place. And LOTS of paranormal stuff happeni Do you guys feel like maybe you're just not connecting to the world? How many of you had difficult births? I'm going out on a limb here. But there's your physical body, and your light body and if the two are not connecting fullly (or like astropsyche suggests are otherwise blocked) you get the "Not quite there" feeling. And if that's a pattern from birth then it's a minor miracle you survived childhood. So we'd expect some early childhood, birth related problems. Many people who fail to connect just take off right back into the blue yonder leaving the physical shell for worm food. Your flirts with the risky sports and behavior can be seen as ways to connect to the physical. It's only then that you feel alive. Also if you're really risky it's a way to satisfy that internal desire for the blue yonder. The reason for not connecting is not always easy to point out. But often it's because you just don't feel comfortable being here. And that might be for a more "mundane" reason than really not belonging here. It might just be traumatic death last time round. If you don't connect then the world can't really hurt you.. Because it's not really real after all... On the other hand, it cannot satisfy you either. As a reference, fully connecting feels quite orgasmic. Think about it... If you do not belong here... Why are you here? Some cosmic accident? Your soul caught the wrong incarnation vortex? Even if you come here from another place, star system or even galaxy. You came HERE so this is where you chose to be. So this is where you belong. It worked out for me... As a baby I refused to eat and only slept. I survived and felt disconnected the first 25 years of my life like you guys describe until a friend told me to just bloody connect.. So now this planet is my planet and I'm feeling very much alive. It's your state of mind that's causing the effect, not your situation. You guys are awesome by the way.. I haven't detected one "normal" person on the forum yet... I think I'll feel right at home here :P

10-01-2008, 11:00 PM	#12
Jacqui D Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kent,England Posts: 1,267	Re: Feeling un-motivated and quite out of place. And LOTS of paranormal stuff happeni I have always said I DID NOT VOLUNTEER TO COME HERE I WAS DRAGGED KICKING AND SCREAMING!!! I think i was trapped in some vortex or portal, when i entered this earth time, i certainly would never have volunteered. And if i get a chance of leaving this planet and by the way some of these threads are going it won't be long lol!! I shall make sure i won't be re entering !!!!!!!!!!

10-01-2008, 11:30 PM	#13
OceanWinds Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Feeling un-motivated and quite out of place. And LOTS of paranormal stuff happeni I know how you all feel... its not that everything is mundane, its just that everything is so full of B.S. I cant ignore the smell of the B.S. , and when I try, I just come back to reality. But most people are glad to just ignore the smell, and roll around in it. I just cant do it.

10-02-2008, 12:19 AM	#14
freekatz Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 155	Re: Feeling un-motivated and quite out of place. And LOTS of paranormal stuff happeni Glad to see there are so many people who feel the way I do! Why are we stuck in this god forsaken drone-like existance? Perhaps it's the same everywhere else but I have to believe there is more to look forward to than this....

10-02-2008, 12:52 AM	#15
Racsouran Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 248	Re: Feeling un-motivated and quite out of place. And LOTS of paranormal stuff happeni all the people on this forum is very probably feeling the same. At least, the "feel out of place" part. also seems most people aren´t able to handle the energies that are being released inside themselves. The personal objetive all of you must take very hardly into account is to integrate those energies into yourselves by working willingly on it. Not easy, but not impossible. I´ts a suggestion that could make wonders, cause if you really left those energies to control you, your life could be, as screwed as it is now, or worse. Last edited by Racsouran; 10-02-2008 at 01:01 AM.

10-02-2008, 01:16 AM	#16
Tuza Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Feeling un-motivated and quite out of place. And LOTS of paranormal stuff happeni Have you heard the interview with the Half Past Human guy Kerry and Bill did which was posted yesterday on Project Camelot. This goes into this subject and why we are feeling this way. Give it a listen and let me know what you think. Cheers.

10-02-2008, 03:21 PM	#18
Skillet Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 17	Re: Feeling un-motivated and quite out of place. And LOTS of paranormal stuff happeni Feeling very un-motivated mostly toward my work. Seems like such a waste of time now. The harder I work the less I make. What is most motvating right now is getting in closer contact with the spirital relm, findinding a safe place for my family when the s--- hits the fan, and being three miles off La Jolla in a kayak catching dinner. Thinking very seriously about going off the grid and building a hobbit house in the mountains. My friends and neighbors don't have even a clue. Thank God for this forum! No gloom and doom here, just want to be prepared.

10-02-2008, 03:33 PM	#19
eurosceptic Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Flatlands of Eastern England Posts: 226	Re: Feeling un-motivated and quite out of place. And LOTS of paranormal stuff happeni yes resonate with that - though in a paradoxical way, society and culture hasnet always provided and obvious framework to do it all in! Culture is the enemy as Terrence Mckenna says. I'm a big fan of hiking up mountains etc and adventure of course - getting to know the planet a bit better in other words.... I have had 'paranormal' things happen - in the last year a few more things....with less time between them....and recently I have had a surge of very interesting vivid dreams. Last edited by eurosceptic; 10-02-2008 at 04:56 PM.

10-02-2008, 04:55 PM	#20
cantaloupe Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 151	Re: Feeling un-motivated and quite out of place. And LOTS of paranormal stuff happeni Great thread, very comforting to know other thinking, feeling folks are going through this stuff too. I gauge the situation partially by keeping an eye on the willingness to listen of those friends who normally glaze over/ change the subject when I bring up topics like these. The energy/ anxiety/ anticipation that is currently insinuating itself into everyones' heads is causing an opening to the alternate views that I am only just now beginning to see. Don't give up! Keep trying to tell the people you love that these events are occurring. To do so will help us overcome our own resistance to what's coming. I'm scared. I like the phrase "ascension symptoms" because it helps put the fear in context and enables me to try to move beyond it. . I am trying to foster the belief that these are all just challenges and they will be met -BY US! As the chain keeps clicking us to that first plunge of the roller coaster the only thing that I can think to do is to try to keep a loving heart out in front of it all. Thanks, everyone, for contributing here.

10-02-2008, 06:04 PM	#21
Bobcat Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 98	Re: Feeling un-motivated and quite out of place. And LOTS of paranormal stuff happeni Supose this doesnt sound very man like but...Over the last few weeks I have been crying alot. When I watch/read things about the inocent getting hurt can't hold my emotions in very well, it's alomst like i feel the pain too and my private pain for their pain. Funny old thing for a mentaly strong person eh :P

10-02-2008, 06:22 PM	#22
Jacqui D Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kent,England Posts: 1,267	Re: Feeling un-motivated and quite out of place. And LOTS of paranormal stuff happeni Well here we go again, go to bed, get up, do the daily grind; Help i want to get off!!!!

10-02-2008, 07:19 PM	#23
Irving Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 71	Re: Feeling un-motivated and quite out of place. And LOTS of paranormal stuff happeni This thread is totally awesome. I've been surely having a hard time as of lately but have been trying to enjoy every second of the mystery unfold. The biggest reason I have been having a hard time is because of incredibly out of control asthma that I stupidly fueled by smoking cigarettes for years, then being involved in a house fire, and then working an industrial job sandblasting and machine spray painting. I have since quit smoking and I have been struggling to deal with this issue for quite some time but I have still not yet been able to find help to pin down exactly what is wrong with me. I'm afraid at 24 I very possibly already have some sort of permanent lung/bronchial damage that even further aggravates asthma. I struggle to talk and have lost much of the depth and deepness of my voice. This has basically been crippling me as my body feels much like a prison from which I cannot properly communicate from. I constantly avoid hanging out and seeing friends because it depresses me that I cannot properly communicate. I feel like these are my postmodern years because me earlier reckless lifestyle and full tilt rock n' roll attitude have chewed me up and spit me out to be the slightly bitter and damaged person that I am now. Otherwise I love life and love to be able to be a solid voice of reason and logic during these changing times, but my respiratory problem unfortunately limits me very much. I used to party hard, do occasional drugs of many varieties, play guitar in local and successful rock bands, all the while going to college, and graduating, with a bachelors degree in media studies and philosophy. I have spent many years figuring out what the reality of our world situation is and I feel like I have so much knowledge and information to share but I am not wielding my responsibility well. I have always loved my ability to take on and embrace both branches of intellectual truth searcher and have a good time recklessly rocking. I have surely gone through bouts of depression in the past as well as periods in life of pure ecstasy and I feel that I am now at a plateau where I am somewhat indifferent. I don't think I would shudder if I knew that I was going to die in an hour from now. I luckily cook in a kitchen for work and I have just about the coolest boss ever, so he doesn't mind when I constantly show up hours late almost everyday. I am not making even enough money to get by and am increasingly spending on credit cards just to buy food. I have a college degree but feel unable to even want to search for a better job because I cannot talk or communicate properly and I know that our current system is about to crash to the ground anyway. I do indeed feel quite alone and trapped in my mind with the information that I have and I have become a bit reckless. I guess I have sort of a melancholy post-modern sadness and frustration while at the same time being meditative and totally living in the now and being happy and content just to hear the silence in between all of the chaos. It sounds contradictory, but it makes sense to me. lol. I have a family who is utterly clueless as to what is going on and my attempts to enlighten them have been rather futile. I seem to be getting through to them a bit better but I am still far from actually having them seriously listen to me for advice. My father just purchased a large flat screen TV and a brand new Mazda two door convertible and I can't help but think that he is so immature. My older brother has a young baby and I am trying my hardest, through emails and communication, to gently inform them so that they can take precautions, but they just think that I am a conspiracy theorist. They are recklessly sleepwalking into the financial catastrophe and I am desperately trying to help them, but they just don't see it. I also feel pressure from my family to get a "career" and do something with my life. It's hard to tell them that the current paradigm is about to end and that I am killing time until the golden age arrives but that we had all better get seriously ready for some potential hard times during the transformation. Somehow they don't take me seriously when I talk about this, haha. I am now reading Peter Schiff's "Crash Proof" to become better informed to help my family get a fighting chance. Damn, I could just go on and on about my current state of affairs and how discouraged I sometimes am. haha. My current health condition and other factors have convinced me to not even really to try to survive in the coming years, I want to, but I am just going to go down with the ship. At such a young age I'm already so tired and feel like I'm much older than my actual age. I am ready for ANYTHING to happen to finally force the masses to be involved. In the meantime I still run a blog and I write a lot, so maybe I can do my part to help awaken some more people. I would agree with all of you that it is very difficult to continue doing the routine tasks of this dying paradigm when you know its all about to end! I often dream and daydream about the coming utopia and golden age where my health has returned and my family, friends, and girlfriend who left me, understand where I, and others like me, have been coming from for all these years. haha. I can't wait. This post is a little long and probably depressing as hell, haha, but I had to vent I guess. Bring on tomorrow, man. I'm waiting and watching. Last edited by Irving; 10-02-2008 at 08:47 PM.

10-02-2008, 08:10 PM	#24
2infinityandbeyond Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Gaia, Solas System, Milkyway Posts: 398	Re: Feeling un-motivated and quite out of place. And LOTS of paranormal stuff happeni to the thread Irving. I started it in the hope that people would talk about themselves and its pretty (id usually say fking here but ive been warned) 'damn' cool to see so many people willing to talk about themselves, it helps everyone involved. Well, its definitly helping me anyways, pretty cool to know im not alone in my sanity. What you said about your dad, my dad is going down the same route. Only difference being that he knows theres a financial crash coming, and i guess the only way he can comfort himself right now is through buying a fast motor so he can live it up for a bit (he's a sucker for the girls). His mustache isnt doing it alone these days im afraid so he reckons getting a newer faster car will attract a newer faster woman (lol, i love that guy!). Each to their own i suppose. Im just about to sell my car, buy my own parachute and spend the rest of my days jumping off ridiculously high mountains, id rather die having fun then die in misery waiting for the inevitible crash thats heading our way. Why not like, heck, if the man upstairs wants me to be here he'll incarnate me again, nothing worse then waiting patiently for ** to happen, that will drive you nuts! Sorry to hear about your chest problems, did you try looking into alternative treatments? From my own experience ive grown to understand that most illness are caused through unresolved mental issues. I'm no expert but it might help you a bit if you check out more 'alternative' treatments.

10-02-2008, 08:27 PM	#25
Morphious Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 73	Re: Feeling un-motivated and quite out of place. And LOTS of paranormal stuff happeni I know exactly how you feel, I feel the same way. I cant talk to people anymore , it just seems pointless to conversate about stuff thats so mundane. Nothing intrests me much anymore. TV pfft yea right. Even this computer is getting old. BUT i like to hear everything that people say here and find out whats REALLY going on. blah....It's like im waiting for this HUge shift thats comming and boy, do i feel this BIG TIME ! I also feel very charged up with energy , so much so im burning out light bulbs all the time, they never burnt out before ...So i went to an old friends house ( friend of 20 + years) and we were talking and things were fine. I felt very energized when i was there and i think it was a bad time to go there. As we were chatting with a couple other people, He just out of no were started going off about somthing very unimportant, and got in my face and was yelling and almost got into a fight. After i got home and started thinkin about it i came to one conclusion, He was not ready to be around my energy at this time, it was to much for him to handle and he had to get rid of it somehow. This is what i think happend, because he never had got in my face like that before(weird) indeed ! At night i feel like someone is standing there all the time watching me. Just thought i would throw that out there. It's very scary to me as i dont know who or what it is. I have tryied talking with it , them , him , her , whatever it is but get nothing...thats a little of whats going on here ! cheers !