14th October 2008

[TAXMASTER]

I remember all the hype on 5-5-2000. the planets were in a line and there was supposed to be a poleshift. then when that didn't happen, most of those websites closed up shop but a few said that it would happen on 5-5-2001. when that didn't happen then the rest of them just withered and died. I am so tired of hearing this bs and then when it doesn't happen then we are all reminded that we control our own destiny and because our will was so great, we overted whatever it was that didn't happen. meanwhile all the people that that pushed the bs on us were busy selling books, dream catchers, and astrology readings etc. meanwhile all the sheeple look on the net for some other new age prophet to worship and send their money to.

I know this sounds cynical, that is why I was attracted to camelot. they were the first of its kind that wasn't selling something. and yes I guess I was one of those sheeple. I am just tired of phonies that cannot make it in the real world and come up with some really preposterous stuff so they can peddle their wares. I am not from michigan but from now on show me.

[Animos]

What will you do if this does not happen??

What if "they" are just playing with those who can't make a decision?
What if this is just a "set-up"..a "trap"...so you will loose your "faith" when this does not happen??


What do you all that believe in this know about psychologie??

p.s.

I hope it will, but I doubt...very much and still hope that I am wrong.

Originally Posted by Animos

What will you do if this does not happen??

What if "they" are just playing with those who can't make a decision?
What if this is just a "set-up"..a "trap"...so you will loose your "faith" when this does not happen??


What do you all that believe in this know about psychologie??

p.s.

I hope it will, but I doubt...very much and still hope that I am wrong.

nothing to add with that, i'm with ya on this one. people and dates, wrong combination

[Oneness]

Originally Posted by Animos

What will you do if this does not happen??

What if "they" are just playing with those who can't make a decision?
What if this is just a "set-up"..a "trap"...so you will loose your "faith" when this does not happen??


What do you all that believe in this know about psychologie??

p.s.

I hope it will, but I doubt...very much and still hope that I am wrong.

Point taken Animos

If it doesn't happen..it'll just be another day. Though there is way too much information coming out regarding contact with Extraterrestrial life to be of insignificance. I have this feeling that eons ago, this was common for many to engage with others from star systems and dimensions beyond our own in the Atlantian era. Hence the point of this NWO of keeping us in a box of fear, of not knowing what we really are.

After studying conciousness and bits of psychology for many years, it seems to all be culminating....at some point... sooner than later.

A convergence.

Taxmaster, I couldn't have said it any better. Thank you.
And I can't wait to hear the new excuses after Oct 14th.

I feel very uncomfortable in this forum. It does not fit to Project Camelot, although I must say, I do have the feeling that Bill and Kerry have changed. I miss the distance they used to have to their information.

Thatswhy I tried to leave this forum. But it is not possible to leave. Once you register, there is no way out, which also explains the amount of members. And this trap gives an even worse impression. Apart from the fact that I didn't get any reply when I asked how to leave and although I know Bill personally. I really don't know what to think about this, except that I am very disappointed.

[777 The Great Work]

Originally Posted by Ava

Taxmaster, I couldn't have said it any better. Thank you.
And I can't wait to hear the new excuses after Oct 14th.

I feel very uncomfortable in this forum. It does not fit to Project Camelot, although I must say, I do have the feeling that Bill and Kerry have changed. I miss the distance they used to have to their information.

Thatswhy I tried to leave this forum. But it is not possible to leave. Once you register, there is no way out, which also explains the amount of members. And this trap gives an even worse impression. Apart from the fact that I didn't get any reply when I asked how to leave and although I know Bill personally. I really don't know what to think about this, except that I am very disappointed.

If it does happen, i believe its propaganda relating to the movie the day the earth stood still.
This movie depicts all of the electronics going down because of electromagnetic ( Magnito) pulse. The human Alien name Klatu came with his ninjas. I'm sorry his robot with a message for humanity. Remember that electronics don't work in room 1408
I'm not sure if those huge mothership videos were the work of photoshop and the poster of the video said that the source was unknown. The Game is up and we are not taking any more disinfo.

After doing a lot of research and then going within I have changed my mind now, I believe this is for real and for one I will be jumping up and down if just to see my skeptical husband's face for a minute.

[Pithiny]

I am thrilled this is happening in MY lifetime. 15 years ago, I read:

Nothing in This Book Is True, but It's Exactly How Things Are
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1883...pt#reader-link

Within a week, I took my kids, then 9 & 12, out for a spin in the convertible, with the top down, and matter of factly told them of the Alien presence, and told them Contact would happen in their lifetime, and they should mentally accept this and prepare. I told them it was a toss-up as to whether it would happen in my lifetime.

I called my daughter a couple weeks ago and asked her if she remembered that day, she did. I told her of the announcement, and asked her how she would feel if she looked outside to see a couple dozen alien ships in the sky. She replied she'd be scared. I told her that her job, since she has been told in advance, is to comfort those around her ON THAT DAY, to reassure them that the aliens come in LOVE, to help us clean up the planet, to aid in ridding our planet of oppressors, and to share clean renewable energy that will not pollute the planet.

Over the last couple weeks I have been sending her links, proof of the alien presence--telling her to save the links till the event--when she will want to have more information for herself and others.

I BELIEVE. I have always believed, and I cannot describe in words how excited I am.
If it does not happen, well, as another poster said: It will happen on another day.

In any event, I am MORE than ready. I'll be outside crying tears of pure Joy, and waving!

Originally Posted by Animos

What will you do if this does not happen??

What if "they" are just playing with those who can't make a decision?
What if this is just a "set-up"..a "trap"...so you will loose your "faith" when this does not happen??


What do you all that believe in this know about psychologie??

p.s.

I hope it will, but I doubt...very much and still hope that I am wrong.

I think the more interesting question is what will people whom, are so against the idea of it happening and who are absolutely sure that there is no way it would happen, how will they react? It would shake their beliefs to the core.

I've been following the GFL threads on this site and on other sites for a few weeks and I really hope it does happen and they are indeed who they say they are, but if it doesn't happen its not going to affect me. I'll just keep trudging on like usual.

One other thing, I haven't given anyone I single dime so if these people are trying to make money they didn't get any from me. So, far I've seen one guy trying to capitalize on it and it was something ridiculous like charging twelve bucks for a phone call to hear a space meeting.

[Arkan]

I was wondering, how exactly will they present themselves if this October 14th event really happens? Will they hover over cities or will they actually communicate with us somehow? If they hover over us and don't communicate then how will the people out there know that they are benevolent--it might backfire. The Illuminati might use this as a reason to unite the planet under its world government. In order to dispel the initial fear that they would cause they might have to do some incredible things to prove to us that they are benevolent. Wouldn't showing up for a few hours then leaving produce more fear and desperation among us? Is something better than nothing? Any thoughts?

One thing that was said in one of the channelings was to judge them by their actions and we would then know who they are.

It is reported they will stay for three 24 hours periods - three days. If you go to Blossom's blog and then do some more research to do with other messages from other channels you will get the gist of it. I think they are turning up because they no full well what the illuminati are up to and what they want to do. In my book - Afternoon Tea with James the Alien - I wrote that James (the alien) said that 'we are only allowed to intervene if we are given permission from the spiritual hierarchy'. From my research I believe they have been given that now - quote from another source - mother earth is a living being and called out for help so it was not destroyed and the Creator gave the ETs permission then to intervene'. - Some of my research for you.

[Greg10036]

Originally Posted by Tuza

It is reported they will stay for three 24 hours periods - three days. If you go to Blossom's blog and then do some more research to do with other messages from other channels you will get the gist of it. I think they are turning up because they no full well what the illuminati are up to and what they want to do. In my book - Afternoon Tea with James the Alien - I wrote that James (the alien) said that 'we are only allowed to intervene if we are given permission from the spiritual hierarchy'. From my research I believe they have been given that now - quote from another source - mother earth is a living being and called out for help so it was not destroyed and the Creator gave the ETs permission then to intervene'. - Some of my research for you.

I have not read any of the various information that all of you are referring to on this thread but I can share this. Last Tuesday, September 23, I was sitting on my porch feeling rather uncomfortable about the situations that are unfolding at this time-war, economic, etc. I received a palpable message from the star people at that moment. There has been a two hundred year heated debate within the Federation (or whatever you want to call it) as to whether to become involved in the Terran situation. They told me they had just reached a consensus in the council and they have a 'go'. I could sense the relief, joy, and how excited they were that now they could do something and not have to watch us destroy each other and the planet anymore.

There are several compelling reasons this has come about. The economics which have recently become obvious to even the most uninformed person, which dovetails with the technologic imbalance that has occurred, particularly in the last hundred years, has outstripped Terran spiritual, intellectual, and perhaps moral capacity. We are lost without direction. The critical mass of this situation and our seeming inability to do anything about it has caused great concern with the star people. They finally agree with each other to step in and help.

Make no mistake. They will not "save" us. They will help us and they will do this at times in apparent and palpable ways. This does not mean that global disclosure is imminent. I do not know if October 14 will be the "day the earth stands still". I have no information regarding that. What they told me, and what I have permission to tell you is that they are going to step in and help us focus and break out of this stalemate we are now in. That is all they are going to do. The rest is up to us.

This is of benefit to the star people also. Should nuclear war occur on this planet, time/space and space/time distortion would result in an imbalance in the galactic ecology which would reverbrate through the galaxy for an incomprehesible number of light-years, which would render this area of the galaxy a toxic no-fly zone for eons until the dimensional imbalances would eventually readjust themselves. They want to do business with us and they do not want to lose business for everyone in this sector of the galaxy. To help us at this time is a win/win situation. To do nothing, everybody loses.

When they told me this, I felt instant relaxation and peace of mind which is with me still to this moment. Be of good cheer. Help is here right now. They are going to help us get on the right track and get focus and direction so that we can save ourselves and create correct situation on Terra. They are on our side. Keep faith. Love and Peace.

Greg

[arcora]

I see four possibilities.

1. It is untrue.

2. It is true and

a. The visitors are malicious.

b. The visitors are benign.

c. It is staged by humans.

If it is untrue there will be a lot of 'channels' with egg on their face. (A long time ago, prophets who were wrong would be stoned to death - I guess the people didn't like being deceived back then)

If it is true, I am not sure how we will determine the visitor's intent or whether it is staged.

[Kate]

Originally Posted by arcora

I see four possibilities.

1. It is untrue.

2. It is true and

a. The visitors are malicious.

b. The visitors are benign.

c. It is staged by humans.

If it is untrue there will be a lot of 'channels' with egg on their face. (A long time ago, prophets who were wrong would be stoned to death - I guess the people didn't like being deceived back then)

If it is true, I am not sure how we will determine the visitor's intent or whether it is staged.

I totally agree with this summary! we all have to be very discerning at this stage.... its like the saying goes...expect the unexpected!!!

After some research about the topic, I did some research. I read that mother earth sent out a help message to the Creator because of the destruction that has been and is still being waged on her. Based on that, the Federation was given the green light to step in somewhat. They couldn't really do that before to this scale because it is not really allowed. I also read about those people that did a scientific test with some sort of elaborate tool to measure whether Blossom is right. Two different people did this and apparently it scored over 500 which is the mark for being 100% right for this to occur. I cannot remember what the tool was, maybe somebody else can explain it better. But viewing it with a logical mind after listening to the whistleblower testimony, the bad guys have all that technology now up in space and down here to create a really bad environment for earth and the people on it, that is why they have their undergrown bunkers and their stargates to offload them somewhere else they consider safe. So weigh up that information and come to a conclusion.

[Exarx]

i allways beleived that the E.T´s would come around 20-22 November since we are entering a daycycle according to the mayacalendar.
But i will watch the skies. It would really be of importance that they would show themselves since we, as a collective of humans, do need assistance at the moment.

[TAXMASTER]

Just because I don't buy into this bs, does not mean I am negative.

Namaste'

Originally Posted by TAXMASTER

Just because I don't buy into this bs, does not mean I am negative.

Namaste'

Hi Namaste and all. Just so you know you're not alone, I don't buy into the Galactic Federation thing either. I just don't buy into channeling. I believe people that hear voices in their heads cannot be sure where those voices are coming from: thier own head, a deceptive source, the government. I fell for the Y2K fiasco. I still have 300 gallons of water, tons of food (well maybe not tons) a very expensive wood stove I've used only that winter b/c I had the wood, a Sun oven (which I found out later wouldn't work if the temperature was freezing, even if the Sun was bright...I live in Colorado dah) etc., etc.

I have trouble meditating. I get distracted too easily. Does this mean I'll be left behind when "the time" comes? I believe whole heartedly in UFOs and extraterrestrials. But, why would they call themselves "THE GALACTIC FEDERATION"? Come on people. Just like how all the et's on tv shows and in movies all speak English...why not French or Japanese or only their own language? The name GF sounds like something right out of a Lucas script. I don't mean to put anyone down and I apologize if it sounds like that's what I'm doing. I just don't think it's wise to trust any being that has to talk inside your head. I believe there is a great deception coming soon and I refuse to be taken in by it.

Truly accept people as they are whatever they believe. Like many, don't go telling someone they are in any way less worthy and they will not be part of some "ascension" or 'rapture" and certain others will. How can anyone boast of having so much love in them and be so prideful and hurtful to others by telling them they will be "left behind"? Love is not boastful, proud or arrogant. No one should consider themself more worthy than another.

Besides all this, there is the fact of so many contradictions coming from channels. Would any species that claims to be highly evolved spiritually lie about the Earth being destroyed on a certain date? What loving species would be so cruel? And do they lie about themselves? If Jesus is one of the Galactic Federation ascended masters that claim to all be like minded or whatever, then why did he say he was the only way, the ONLY son of God while he was on Earth and change the story when with the federation? If the Galactic Federation is who they say they are, then would they just stand by and not try to help us grow? I am not a Christian, but I do believe in Jesus/Yeshua. I also believe there are counterfeits.


Please be considerate when talking to people that believe differently than you. When or if the shtf people don't need to be worried they will be forgotten or go to hell. They'll need love, compassion and a caring person to help them through the bad times. Don't judge them. Let the Creator do the judging. We will probably be surprized when we get to where we're going when we see who's there and who isn't.

Namaste, don't let the "negative" statement get to you. Only someone that has negative tendencies can tell another they're negative. They would know the statement was selfish and probably make the other person angry. Love doesn't provoke another to anger. Only pride says I'm better than you...or I'm positive and you're negative. You're a seeker of truth...don't stop. Keep questioning all things. Be on guard. Remain wise. You'll be okay. We're all spirits living a mortal existance. None of us are perfect. Just do your best to show love to all. (It's not easy, I know, but try anyway)

Blessings to everyone.

[china2012]

Originally Posted by Tuza

After some research about the topic, I did some research. I read that mother earth sent out a help message to the Creator because of the destruction that has been and is still being waged on her. Based on that, the Federation was given the green light to step in somewhat. They couldn't really do that before to this scale because it is not really allowed. I also read about those people that did a scientific test with some sort of elaborate tool to measure whether Blossom is right. Two different people did this and apparently it scored over 500 which is the mark for being 100% right for this to occur. I cannot remember what the tool was, maybe somebody else can explain it better. But viewing it with a logical mind after listening to the whistleblower testimony, the bad guys have all that technology now up in space and down here to create a really bad environment for earth and the people on it, that is why they have their undergrown bunkers and their stargates to offload them somewhere else they consider safe. So weigh up that information and come to a conclusion.

Pls help me understand why there are bad guys would harm us human being fellows, since we are living under the same roof, why they want a war that leading to great destruction on Earth, it just doesn't make sense

[TAXMASTER]

here is what david wilcox says about 10-14:

POSTSCRIPT: OCTOBER 14TH

This needs to be said in order to answer at least five emails a day I’m getting about October 14th.

Channeling is a beautiful thing when done well. It brings inspiration and loving consciousness to a world greatly in need. It also empowers us to make our own changes rather than stepping in to rescue us as if we were incapable of self-help.


I watched these crop circle prophecies about August 16th unfolding in June and July but did not publish. Part of it was that I was quite busy, but I also expected people would read into it too much and think that something grandiose and blatant would happen on that very day.

Then, of course, the skeptics would rush in and declare the whole thing a ‘hoax’ when nothing seemed to happen.

I realized that as soon as I mentioned the prophecy date, someone would immediately start a rumor that a massive UFO sighting would occur that day. The crop formations would be hailed as the "Blueprints to Contact" and lots of people would get excited about it.

Then, when it didn’t happen, everyone would be disappointed, the person who started the rumor would issue an embarrassing retraction, and be discredited.

This is all about to happen again, as it has every year since I got online in 1996. This time the day of disappointment will be October 15th.

I do feel sorry for the person who channeled this, and for all the people who believe it, as no matter how badly you might want this to happen, it’s not going to. At least not right now.


Due to the Law of Free Will that the ETs allegedly must follow, it is my understanding that a "mass sighting" will not happen until we as a planet have invited it. A prophecy is circulating the Net that a massive UFO will appear for three days on October 14th and wipe out the New World Order, a group that the prophet says would otherwise take over the planet.

I guarantee you that nothing unusual will be seen in the skies that day, because we are not at the point where we as a planet have reached a consensus about whether we want it to happen or not.

I hate to speak so bluntly, but we’re dealing with very serious issues here. Internet chain letters and back-slapping love-ins within UFO circles are not enough to create such a consensus. That is unlikely to change anytime soon.

We need to reach those people who sit and vegetate in front of the TV, blindly believing everything the top five corporations feed them with the trust of little children.








If you put a UFO in front of them, without any front-loading from the media, they would either worship it — and those who predicted its arrival — as Gods, and / or scourge them as devils. It creates an irreversible infringement upon our free will as a planet.

I don’t mind the letters. This is an opportunity for you to understand what a privilege it is to have this knowledge. Not everyone is ready for it yet, and that puts you in a unique position where you can have an active and beneficial effect in helping this planet evolve.


The truth of the extraterrestrial presence, and how it works with us, is a lot more interesting and beneficial for everyone on Earth than the idea of ETs coming in for a massive ‘bailout’ of our corrupt political system on October 14th.

You have to use your mind and solve a mystery with lots of different clues. I felt like a detective and enjoyed the thrill of discovery as I put all this together. I have since been dazzled to see it unfolding so perfectly.

With that said, we will continue with your intelligence briefing into the secret history of crop circles, and their relevance to our immediate present and future.

[Reveling John]

Originally Posted by TAXMASTER

here is what david wilcox says about 10-14:

POSTSCRIPT: OCTOBER 14TH
...A prophecy is circulating the Net that a massive UFO will appear for three days on October 14th and wipe out the New World Order, a group that the prophet says would otherwise take over the planet... The truth of the extraterrestrial presence, and how it works with us, is a lot more interesting and beneficial for everyone on Earth than the idea of ETs coming in for a massive ‘bailout’ of our corrupt political system on October 14th.....

I love David and I follow his blog very closely. He's one of the most intelligent and well-versed beings in society today, with the possible exception of Terrence McKenna (I know he's dead, but he is indisputably more of an influence today than he ever was during his life).

Because of the inaccuracy of the information in the above quote, I believe David is misinformed about the aspects connected to this event. Here's a quote from "2008-10 Hotline.doc" which is available at http://www.cosmicawareness.com/:

More Reasons Why First Contact is Important at this Time

The most important point however, is that humanity at this stage become aware of the possibility, indeed, the probability of first contact, that it is on the books, that it is planned and that the reasons for first contact at this time are to help open up the minds, expand the consciousness of mankind to matters much greater than that which they amuse themselves with now by which they are misled by those powers that be, to see that there is more in heaven and on earth than has been dreamt of by the denizens of this lower dimensional region, that it is time for mankind to move forward in its destiny, to expand its awareness of what is, embracing greater truths, greater possibilities. Thus it is that the proposed first contact of October 14th is important in and of itself for it suggests of course that there are greater forces,
greater agencies out there that are ready to show themselves and that the individual must not become preoccupied with a date or who is staging the event, but rather that mankind itself has finally reached a point of consciousness that can allow such an event to occur, allow such a shift in consciousness to occur, and that if it does not happen exactly on the date predicted, that it is seen that the event is still imminent, that it is still on the books, that it is still the plan, and that it will indeed happen.

I think that anyone who wants to continue further discussion of this issue needs to read that document which was so graciously linked to by NeoEmc2.
There is NOTHING in the literature linked directly to Blossom or the Federation of Light that says anything about saving us or destroying the new world order, so to reference those kinds of remarks shows a lack of information about the subject.

Also this point is darned interesting:

But it was felt that first and foremost it would be enough to simply show such a vessel in a non-threatening manner and that this would help many come to terms with the event, preparing them for actual contact with extraterrestrial beings. This Awareness indicates that it is recognized by the Galactic Federation that great panic might ensue, that many may find such an occurrence, such an event as so challenging that they will not be able to handle it and in an attempt to prevent mass hysteria, it has been felt by the Galactic Federation, the Federation of Light, that a peaceful demonstration of their existence was needed and by this, it was felt that merely appearing in the skies over that state of Alabama would be enough at this point and that it would be followed up after several weeks with actual first contact.

What is also planned is that many will start to have a deep connection with the extraterrestrial galactic representatives, in other words, that there will be heightened conscious awareness, contact happening at
an individual level with many individuals worldwide. Contact not simply of an alien appearing in someone's room manifesting in this way, but rather contact at those deeper levels of consciousness, messages, many many messages being given to many individuals who are sensitive enough to receive such communication, who will be able to speak to many around them, to prepare many around them. Thus it is seen that the period between the first sighting and appearance of the alien vessel and actual first contact will be a period of preparation, of preparing the ground, of preparing individuals, of preparing the human community for actual first contact, that this is seen as a very important step and that there are many many individuals whose life purpose it was, star beings, who chose physical incarnation, who will come into their own, who will finally step into their purpose, and that purpose is to act as intermediaries, to act as ambassadors for the star nations peoples, those beings who are ready to present themselves.

I find it quite appropriate that there "will be a period of preparation, of preparing the ground...."

Go with Love.

[Reveling John]

Originally Posted by arcora

I see four possibilities.

1. It is untrue.

2. It is true and

a. The visitors are malicious.

b. The visitors are benign.

c. It is staged by humans.

If it is untrue there will be a lot of 'channels' with egg on their face. (A long time ago, prophets who were wrong would be stoned to death - I guess the people didn't like being deceived back then)

If it is true, I am not sure how we will determine the visitor's intent or whether it is staged.

I'd like to refer to the channel medium, Blossom Goodchild's own urgings:

"It is SO important in ALL that you read and hear to ....

LISTEN TO THE TRUTH IN YOUR HEART.
AT ALL TIMES ... THROUGHOUT THESE TIMES."

Our ability to evaluate this event is correlative to the extent that we are connected with our inner voice (feeling). Just listen to what your insides (intuitive insides) are telling you.

[lordoza]

i wonder why anyone didnt tried to question this date to some proffessional remote viewers
i think they may have the answer or at least some hints/glimpses of information.

sorry for my bad english

[TAXMASTER]

Originally Posted by lordoza

i wonder why anyone didnt tried to question this date to some proffessional remote viewers
i think they may have the answer or at least some hints/glimpses of information.

sorry for my bad english

The question has already been answered by david wilcock. (see my previous post) if i were to believe any channeler, it would be him.

Namaste'