Anyone coming forth about Vatican message?

[undetected]

Vatican announcing something which used to be clear blasphemy and they would burn for it surely has its significance. In my opinion they wouldn't do so if they didn't have a reason to believe that a large scale contact is imminent, because otherwise they'd just be undermining their own credibility. This is a topic on which i had conversations before. Some christians told me that if aliens proved to be real, their belief would be proven wrong. I wish that proof of alien life would destroy The Church but I know better than that. I've always known that when the time comes, they'll "adjust" their doctrine to make space for the guys from space, so to speak.

What I didn't expect was that they'd do it before the aliens appear publicly. As for the strategizing, it seems pretty clear to me, they want to be prepared, they don't want their little sheep to be suddenly confused and question the supreme power of big brother Vatican. It might be that they expect this to happen soon, or maybe they just want to be on the safe side cause everything is stirring so much lately, hard to guess. As a strategic move it's not surprising at all.

Why the "good catholics" aren't stirring from their daze? Isn't the point of being a "good catholic" being in a daze and not questioning the almighty pope? I don't know, I don't wanna be mean but people who get fooled into being followers of Vatican lies don't strike me as very bright in the first place...

On a side note, I just spoke about this with a friend a few days ago. He mentioned that they always adjust, like with Earth being round. That made me realize something that I never thought of before. It is clear that the Vatican KNOWS that there are aliens and have probably known that even in the times when it was blasphemy to think so. That being so, it is very likely, with the "inner Vatican" knowledge, that while they were burning people for claiming the Earth is round, they actually knew the Earth was round...

Anyway, I'm also curious if anyone has any more info concerning this move.

Everything stashed away in their library and underneath the Vatican proves the existence of a lot of things hidden from the general public including ETs. I dont have any faith in the Vatican at all. I mean just read some of the whistleblower testimony on the Jesuits for goodness sake.

I am sure that each Pope has been made aware of some of these things but they do not really come out and tell the people just like the leaders of Government do. I think we, the public are mostly kept in the dark, treated like mushrooms. I suppose they think it is because most people couldn't handle it. I disagree, I think the way the world has been travelling, a lot of people, even elderly people if told in the right way, would nut over the ET thing, chew on it for a while and then come to the conclusion that this might be a good thing, considering how most of the politicians and governments down here act.

How many people have suffered famine, homelessnss, war, tortore, etc. The Vatican is one of the richest "companies" on the planet and I don't see them throwing out their money, they keep asking for more off us. I do sponsor two charities a month, they could do a lot more if they wanted to.

They have all the answers to a lot of things - everything is being hidden. Most wars are waged over religion. Most people were tortured by supposedly very religious people.

Originally Posted by Tuza

Everything stashed away in their library and underneath the Vatican proves the existence of a lot of things hidden from the general public including ETs.

Not everything

Vatican Library Rome

http://www.vatican.va/

Vatican Exhibit Main Hall
Library of Congress Vatican Exhibit

http://www.ibiblio.org/expo/vatican....Main_Hall.html

[Norval]

Gale wants her library card for the catacombs, , , LOL
With your mentioning of the Jesuits, , why should we, , , heh heh heh heh

[Ashatav]

Originally Posted by Norval

Gale wants her library card for the catacombs, , , LOL
With your mentioning of the Jesuits, , why should we, , , heh heh heh heh

Hahahaha, I love I would be that's one sorgon says, I love to have fans it's makes me feel important, haha.

I will say nothing.



Just look what Leo Zagami in the Camelot Project says about the topic:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...15727237&hl=es

Just play it in the 28 minute and forward.


Cheers!

Originally Posted by Norval

Gale wants her library card for the catacombs,

Get Ye in line That might require a little clandestine operation... got any retired Delta force guys in that pouch of yours?

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by Tuza

Everything stashed away in their library and underneath the Vatican proves the existence of a lot of things hidden from the general I think we, the public are mostly kept in the dark, treated like mushrooms. I suppose they think it is because most people couldn't handle it. I disagree, I think the way the world has been travelling, a lot of people, even elderly people if told in the right way, would nut over the ET thing, chew on it for a while and then come to the conclusion that this might be a good thing, considering how most of the politicians and governments down here act.


They have all the answers to a lot of things - everything is being hidden. Most wars are waged over religion. Most people were tortured by supposedly very religious people.

I think that saying that people wouldn't handle that is just an excuse for having kept us in "Dark Ages" for so many years. It was convenient for them to maintain the status quo for obvious reasons and I bet that they very reluctantly "inform" us about new develpoments .

[Mizar]

This could be the hidden part of the third secret of Fatima.
M

[Wolfladyk]

The third secret of Fatima was released while ago and ET's had nothing to do with it.

Hugs to all,
Wolf

[feardia]

Originally Posted by Wolfladyk

The third secret of Fatima was released while ago and ET's had nothing to do with it..

I have to disagree, there was only the description part of the third secret revealed to the public, the interpretation of the vision which the entity also provided was not released.

An ET encounter could easily be interpreted as an encounter with 'Our Lady' by people from certain cultural backgrounds, the miracle of the sun was described by witnesses as discs flying into the sun, the entity was also described as a child, and she held some kind of device in her hand.

I would refer you to the links i posted above, the vatican has been taken over by satan and his minions therefore anything they do or say is designed to further his aims on this earth, hence the statement on et's being good catholics too, they are priming the sheeple for the great deception.

Hug you right back

[Ashatav]

Anybody believes that the Vatican (created illuminati order, behind every mayor conflict, controls the banks of the world by they Knights of malta, at the top controls the zabatheans, etc. etc. etc.) are saying something true?

Cheerzo

[RedeZra]

Thanks for the interesting links feardia...



Third Secret of Fatima too explosive to reveal...?


The Smoke of Satan

“from some fissure the smoke of Satan has entered the temple of God...” - June 29, 1972, Pope Paul VI

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/pa...720629_it.html
http://jimmyakin.typepad.com/defenso...oke_of_sa.html



The Third Secret and the Great Apostasy...

"Satan, Lucifer in human form, entered into Rome in the year 1972. He cut off the rule, the role of the Holy Father, Pope Paul VI..." -Our Lady, Sept 7, 1978

"The Third Secret, My child, is that satan would enter into My Son's Church." - Our Lady, May 13, 1978

http://www.tldm.org/News10/ThirdSecretGreatApostasy.htm

[Steve_A]

Hi undetected,

Catholic Bishop James Francis McIntyre from Los Angeles was an eye witness, it is said, of the top secret meeting between aliens and President Eisenhower at Muroc Airforce base on the February 20 in 1954.

Aftr this meeting the “Greada Treaty of 1954” was drafted and signed between the American government and the 'Nordic' aliens.

Also it was suggested that President Reagan briefed the Pope John Paul II about the alien question in 1992 and that members of the Vatican witnessed other meetings in a secure location within area 51 during 1992, 94, 96, 97 and 98.

I think that 99% of 'Good Catholics' don't even know about the Vatican telescope, alien contacts nor even the article written in the Vatican magazine. If you asked a good Catholic if they beleive in life forms on other planets, they may not even know about the reformed doctrine of the Catholic church. But that's their fish to fry.

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by undetected

Vatican announcing something which used to be clear blasphemy and they would burn for it surely has its significance. In my opinion they wouldn't do so if they didn't have a reason to believe that a large scale contact is imminent, because otherwise they'd just be undermining their own credibility. This is a topic on which i had conversations before. Some christians told me that if aliens proved to be real, their belief would be proven wrong. I wish that proof of alien life would destroy The Church but I know better than that. I've always known that when the time comes, they'll "adjust" their doctrine to make space for the guys from space, so to speak.

What I didn't expect was that they'd do it before the aliens appear publicly. As for the strategizing, it seems pretty clear to me, they want to be prepared, they don't want their little sheep to be suddenly confused and question the supreme power of big brother Vatican. It might be that they expect this to happen soon, or maybe they just want to be on the safe side cause everything is stirring so much lately, hard to guess. As a strategic move it's not surprising at all.

Why the "good catholics" aren't stirring from their daze? Isn't the point of being a "good catholic" being in a daze and not questioning the almighty pope? I don't know, I don't wanna be mean but people who get fooled into being followers of Vatican lies don't strike me as very bright in the first place...

On a side note, I just spoke about this with a friend a few days ago. He mentioned that they always adjust, like with Earth being round. That made me realize something that I never thought of before. It is clear that the Vatican KNOWS that there are aliens and have probably known that even in the times when it was blasphemy to think so. That being so, it is very likely, with the "inner Vatican" knowledge, that while they were burning people for claiming the Earth is round, they actually knew the Earth was round...

Anyway, I'm also curious if anyone has any more info concerning this move.

[lucrum]

Interesting statement indeed, but on the flipside.

What meaning do they put into "alien"? I think we tend to look upon the term alien as a being/item not originating from this plane or planet.

Alien can also be looked upon as every neighbouring societies, races and individuals alike.

However, since the words here are taken out if a greater picture (I presume) the rest of the statement might be enough to lean towards it meaning out of this world alien, rather than alien as in foreign.

[Gale]

The top echelon of the Vatican have known about the ET’s since day one, all the followers and religionists will have a difficult time with the ET / Angel connection.

If you check any major happening or meeting there would have been some representative from the Vatican there. And prior to this because of their confession boxes their CIA type information gathering would have been phenomenal.

Excellent posts and information.

I get dibs on the Pope’s library card…the full access one

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

preparing the sheeple for project blue beam imo

[Theresa]

Thanks for that clarification, Steve. Seems that things is gettin' curious and curiouser

[Norval]

Doing the research on, first the "Signs in the Heavens", which led us into the "War in the
Heavens", and subsequent investigations about these cast down bad ET's that lost that
war led us to this question.

We know that there was war amongst the bad ET's, mythology tells us about that, and
that many were cast down to the earth long, long ago.

So, what, and who, would be the most probable agency on earth to use as a cover for
their presence and actions?

We know that today, and since the approximate 40's or a bit before, it is the governments
dealing with these bad ET's amongst us. Back then was it; The church? The richest "families"?

[Toymachines]

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/62208

[lucrum]

Thanks for the reply Steve

I can follow the idea that the Vatican knows about ET's on earth and elsewhere. Their agenda and so on. I won't blindly follow this as a rule of life, as I got no physical proof of either one or the other. Certainly interesting though to follow these matters unraveling like they do these days. We a certainly not alone in the vast areas we call space.

I'll keep this knowledge in the back of my head and if I come across something of importance I will let you all know

Have a splendid day!

[Gale]

The Vatican would be privy to a whole heck of a lot as a result of the Crusades and artifact gathering. Their warrior monks killing anyone with “gifts” or special attributes and labeling them witch also killing our brothers and sisters that showed any signs of having the “Calling”.

In resent times the churches accomplish this same mission through psychological, social and economic devastation of the Called Ones. Because of that ancient document, the Bible, we know full well who has/is going after the Called Ones and humanity in general; wanting our total annihilation. This all fits together in the big picture of what the heck is going on and who is doing it.
Thank you Theresa for posing the question.

[Steve_A]

Hi lucrum,

Consider 'alien' as extra-terrestrial.

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by lucrum

Interesting statement indeed, but on the flipside.

What meaning do they put into "alien"? I think we tend to look upon the term alien as a being/item not originating from this plane or planet.

Alien can also be looked upon as every neighbouring societies, races and individuals alike.

However, since the words here are taken out if a greater picture (I presume) the rest of the statement might be enough to lean towards it meaning out of this world alien, rather than alien as in foreign.

*

[Steve_A]

Hi WineHippie,

There ar devout Catholics here in Brazil that still kneel on rice and pay promisses to their effigies.

They do not beleive in extra-terrestrial life forms.

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by WineHippie

Steve, I thought they dropped that fish thing a long time ago?