Best preperation: Get out of "survivor mode"

[asclepius888]

Survival mode is not negative train of thought, it is being prepared in readiness for some unforeseeable emergency that might cause harm or even death. An example, 2 canoeist capsize in rapid waters, one panics out of fear and drowns, while the other instinctively decides to ride out the rapids to more calmer waters and increases his/her chances of survival. When the Yk2 happen, many took preventative measures only to feel either foolish or relieved the next day, yet it should have been seen as a firedrill.

For those who wish not to debate the merits of a survivor mentality any longer, see the thread I just created called "For Survivors Eyes Only." It is a place for those who wish to get down to the business of preparation for defense can do so.

Thank you.

HistoryCircus

[Jenny]

Historycircus...

I feel your input at this time and how you present this..is pivotal to what Avalon is trying to achieve.

Bare with us..mods ..we will think this over very seriously.

Jenny

[Shellie]

After watching this forum for 3 weeks, it has finally dawned upon me:

First of all, there are TWO Whatever's taking place; the one that is starting to happen now (economy, elections etc) and the one that is *supposed* to happen in the next 4 years.

Here is the difference; Whatever I is man-made, and for many people who have just woken up, very scary.

Whatever II is probably NOT going to be man-made (or if it is, it will not be readily identified as such by the public).

Now, here is the practical difference: there is little disparity between the messages of say, George Green vs. Michael StClair. George Green and his camp are concerned with Whatever I; Michael StClair and David Wilcock are concerned with Whatever II.

History has shown us that in times of (local natural) cataclysm, people for the most part trust each other and bond together very well to support each other in things like earthquakes, fires, famines, volcanoes, floods etc. History has also shown that when chaos ensues because of man-made factors, people lose all trust in each other and tend to treat each other as the enemy, even if they previously were good neighbors (think Christians and Muslims in the Balkans).

IMHO, Whatever I is very much an old-paradigm situation that for good or bad will require a lot of old-paradigm thinking and preparation. Whatever II will be very much a new-paradigm situation where old-paradigm thinking and behaving (reacting) will be medieval and backwards.

We need to utilize both methods of preparation. Those who are thinking of spiritual ideals and nothing else will be in for a rough ride when Whatever I starts to affect them... but people more prepared for Whatever I will also need to keep the final goal of 10 years from now in focus so they don't turn into negative and destructive "survivalists".

AND, let's dissect this idea of a survivalist... a survivalist is someone who just barely eeks through when tshtf (which is any situation that you don't like and don't have control over). Even if we are preparing for the physical aspects of "survival", that is not enough. We need to prepare to THRIVE. Let's not be survivors, let's be thrivers. We don't need to create our own problems in order to define ourselves.

[showmemo]

I do not see myself as being afraid as for being a realist nor do I want to be caught with my pants down in any situation. Yes to be rescued by aliens would be grand yet it is hard to fathom a race that would want to rescue another that expects it. As it would not be a learning experience it is as though you can do whatever than it is alright the ET's will help us, I ask why would they for what reason when everyone would lay down as sheep. I would want a fighter someone who is able to have the heart and WILL to survive as that is what would be needed. You have to think of the past of the men and women who lived on homesteads,farms and in the hilly rough country, they where rough survivors who produced their own food and traded for what they needed it is the mind set of working together whether a family or communitee to survive.

As for when your time is up it is up I agree but one must be able to survive you think the ET's are going to be the U.N. I highly doubt it as they would exspect peoples who can survive as the new world might be rough a new beggining it may have less people and the wally world may not be around. You have your thoughts and they make sense to a few peoples around the world and may agree with some form of it,yet at the end of the day I believe they (ET's) want people like the NATIVES around the world who where one with nature used all of what they had and had no need for waste.

There is no fear here I have my eyes open as well as my mind life is good and yes there is storage and seeds it is a gift to be living in these times that have been told of in proficies and in stories from natives to ones touched, what a gift from the higher power!

[giovonni]

Originally Posted by Shellie

After watching this forum for 3 weeks, it has finally dawned upon me:

First of all, there are TWO Whatever's taking place; the one that is starting to happen now (economy, elections etc) and the one that is *supposed* to happen in the next 4 years.

Here is the difference; Whatever I is man-made, and for many people who have just woken up, very scary.

Whatever II is probably NOT going to be man-made (or if it is, it will not be readily identified as such by the public).

Now, here is the practical difference: there is little disparity between the messages of say, George Green vs. Michael StClair. George Green and his camp are concerned with Whatever I; Michael StClair and David Wilcock are concerned with Whatever II.

History has shown us that in times of (local natural) cataclysm, people for the most part trust each other and bond together very well to support each other in things like earthquakes, fires, famines, volcanoes, floods etc. History has also shown that when chaos ensues because of man-made factors, people lose all trust in each other and tend to treat each other as the enemy, even if they previously were good neighbors (think Christians and Muslims in the Balkans).

IMHO, Whatever I is very much an old-paradigm situation that for good or bad will require a lot of old-paradigm thinking and preparation. Whatever II will be very much a new-paradigm situation where old-paradigm thinking and behaving (reacting) will be medieval and backwards.

We need to utilize both methods of preparation. Those who are thinking of spiritual ideals and nothing else will be in for a rough ride when Whatever I starts to affect them... but people more prepared for Whatever I will also need to keep the final goal of 10 years from now in focus so they don't turn into negative and destructive "survivalists".

AND, let's dissect this idea of a survivalist... a survivalist is someone who just barely eeks through when tshtf (which is any situation that you don't like and don't have control over). Even if we are preparing for the physical aspects of "survival", that is not enough. We need to prepare to THRIVE. Let's not be survivors, let's be thrivers. We don't need to create our own problems in order to define ourselves.

A diamond in the rough, very logical and well put, giovonni