Miriam Delicado Interview, Your Views?

[peacelovinman]

The message resonated with me even if the lady didn't. There is something about her manner that made me veer between discomfort and a hypnotic state as I gazed into those beautiful, if a little unnerving, eyes.

The message is what we have been hearing from contactees for many years.

The "twist" at the end surprised me. I agree that "seeds" are the key. In my opinion, we need to begin on a local level to encourage people to grow their own food. Anything from digging up their own lawn to community gardens.

Miriam mentions that certain people feel "stirred" into action at this time - the proof that this is correct is here on this forum!

But what action do we take for the best...?

And where do we need to be located to be safe in the years to come...?

[clarkkent]

Originally Posted by peacelovinman

And where do we need to be located to be safe in the years to come...?

this is what i mean...maybe the ground crew can be more than just where to run to.

[Operator]

Originally Posted by peacelovinman

But what action do we take for the best...?

Be more conscious about consumption and pollution etc. Be aware e.g. where your food is coming from. More ideally grow your own food and/or
build your own house when possible e.g.
Be an example to others by demonstrating these kind of changes.

Originally Posted by peacelovinman

And where do we need to be located to be safe in the years to come...?

The more changes you make as mentioned above the more independent you become from control of rulers. This is already
a form of safety ...

[Richard T]

Disappointment stems from expectations.
Expectations rules the way people judge, it is a projection.

Like humanity projects its psychology to interpret consciousness in the universe, the individual projects his psychology to interpret his relationships.

This creates expectations.

And a lot of disappointments.

Expectations means that people do not listen to what someone says, but listen to find out what a person might say. And the judgement already exists even before they have started to listen, for it is already decided if they will agree.

People judge, they do not listen.

Listening does not mean agreeing, it does not mean disagreeing, it means that all attention is turned toward the speaker, therefore no judgement takes place.

People do not listen, They are in a state of expectation.

So they sort things out using what they already expected as a yardstick.

The responsibility of a conversation always falls on the shoulders of the listener.

Some will argue, NO, No, no... it also depends on the qualities of the speaker.

No matter what the qualities of the speaker are, if there is no ear for his words, there is no conversation. And, if the listener is engaged by the abilities, rather than by the information, he is looking forward to a show. He wants to be impressed. He wants to feel power. He wants to feel an agreement. He wants to be nourished.

So, he expects a performance. He is not neutral, he wants to be satisfied.

Reality cannot please the ego. Real information is never pleasant to the ego. Because it has to come from a field that is outside of his mentality. Otherwise, the ego would have had all the answers a long time ago, if reality was within his field of mentation.

The ego can only be shocked and his expectations dissolved when faced with reality.

Until that time when he can no longer be disappointed, or surprised, or impressed.

Expectation is driven by a need to be fed with something to believe. Reality is the imposition of something that is unbelievable.

[Richard T]

There is not a single information coming from the astral that is valid, unless you have the ascendancy over the intelligences that reside in that plane, in which case they have no choice but to answer to you.

Not one information.

[chelmostef]

Hi all

I have just listened to the interview.
With relevance to seeds. Seeds could be as equally as importaint as gold and silver. And planting the seeds of thought in others equally important.

[moonwalker22]

Originally Posted by Richard T

Disappointment stems from expectations.
Expectations rules the way people judge, it is a projection.

Like humanity projects its psychology to interpret consciousness in the universe, the individual projects his psychology to interpret his relationships.

This creates expectations.

And a lot of disappointments.

Expectations means that people do not listen to what someone says, but listen to find out what a person might say. And the judgement already exists even before they have started to listen, for it is already decided if they will agree.

People judge, they do not listen.

Listening does not mean agreeing, it does not mean disagreeing, it means that all attention is turned toward the speaker, therefore no judgement takes place.

People do not listen, They are in a state of expectation.

So they sort things out using what they already expected as a yardstick.

The responsibility of a conversation always falls on the shoulders of the listener.

Some will argue, NO, No, no... it also depends on the qualities of the speaker.

No matter what the qualities of the speaker are, if there is no ear for his words, there is no conversation. And, if the listener is engaged by the abilities, rather than by the information, he is looking forward to a show. He wants to be impressed. He wants to feel power. He wants to feel an agreement. He wants to be nourished.

So, he expects a performance. He is not neutral, he wants to be satisfied.

Reality cannot please the ego. Real information is never pleasant to the ego. Because it has to come from a field that is outside of his mentality. Otherwise, the ego would have had all the answers a long time ago, if reality was within his field of mentation.

The ego can only be shocked and his expectations dissolved when faced with reality.

Until that time when he can no longer be disappointed, or surprised, or impressed.

Expectation is driven by a need to be fed with something to believe. Reality is the imposition of something that is unbelievable.

The thread asks for peoples views on the interview. And thats what the thread is ....peoples views on the interview. Ego -mongering aside, there is such a thing as intuition, gut reaction, those are individual responses, and valid to the thread topic.

[feeler]

Miriam, when being shown the underground 'ugly' beings (reptilians?), Miriam's reaction was one of apathy ("oki doki").

In contrast, Alex Collier, when describing the underground 'ugly' beings, cringed his teeth, showing his frustration and his concern for others.

[DeadDeadDead]

I agree with the message that we all have the ability to make our place better and all we have to do is do something about it. But I was very underwhelmed with the interview. Kerry & Bill said it was their best interview to date but I kept thinking is this really the best they've got?

I don't doubt the story or the message at all, I just didn't hear anything really good. Nothing to inform me or make me go do some research. It just seemed like a good story, and that's all, a story. A story, almost predictable. I wished B & K asked more questions.

I guess I like the more detailed whistle blower interviews like Fulford, Green, or Deacon. I enjoyed the Wilcock interview, he talked about his life and told his story but he also talked about how he learned about things and the research behind all the stuff. I guess I prefer the ones where they go into the hows and whys the world is the way it is, how things work and the where things have come from or how they evolved, and also where we can go from here.

I'm not meaning this to be negative, I just try to be completely honest with myself and the people around me. I support Bill & Kerry fully and I applaud their efforts.

[eleni]

As a long time abductee (one whom the late John Mack researched and wrote about) I hard a hard time myself connecting to her *story*. With that said, my experiences have not been with the Nordics and I honestly felt that her information provided little substance. It did not resonate with me.

[pilot]

Miriam is Canadian...most of the people interviewed on PC were European or American right? OK, I know this sounds maybe a little strange but when I hear people making comments about Miriam being "off", "strange vibe" etc. I can't help but think it has something to do with her nationality. I have NEVER met a Canadian who seemed... ummm, well how can I put this-they are a very distinctive people in a very subtle way that I can't define...if you Canucks out there can either agree or disagree we might get to the bottom of this.

I think of the films out of Canada, the musicians, etc...you guys are different than people in the states-and I have a hard time putting my finger on it but I know it's true, so when I watched the vid of Miriam, I kept reminding myself of that and not letting her delivery of the message get to me. She's Canadian. That's all.

God Bless Canada!

[droid56]

Canadians are a pretty diverse people. Some are perhaps more restrained in their style of communication than some Americans, but there's lots of exceptions to that rule (eg Howie Mandel, the quiz show host, and Paul Schaffer, Letterman's band leader, etc)

I think what's more likely is that people have different personalities, and Miriam's personality is not emotional in nature. But that doesn't make her a phony.

I don't think her body language and vocal delivery should be the focus of people's assessment of her veracity.

In my opinion, people should evaluate her message.

I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt. I believe she had the experiences she describes. It is possible she has been fooled as to the real motivations of the ETs she interacted with, but I don't think she's a phony.

[pilot]

Originally Posted by droid56

Canadians are a pretty diverse people. Some are perhaps more restrained in their style of communication than some Americans, but there's lots of exceptions to that rule (eg Howie Mandel, the quiz show host, and Paul Schaffer, Letterman's band leader, etc)

I think what's more likely is that people have different personalities, and Miriam's personality is not emotional in nature. But that doesn't make her a phony.

I don't think her body language and vocal delivery should be the focus of people's assessment of her veracity.

In my opinion, people should evaluate her message.

I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt. I believe she had the experiences she describes. It is possible she has been fooled as to the real motivations of the ETs she interacted with, but I don't think she's a phony.

I agree her delivery is beside the point for whatever reason-I think the hype and expectations had a lot to do with the lukewarm response. I too wish more questions had been asked but overall she reiterated a lot of things heard before so it failed to make an enormous splash. eh, next.

[astraya]

Originally Posted by pilot

I have NEVER met a Canadian who seemed... ummm, well how can I put this-they are a very distinctive people in a very subtle way that I can't define...if you Canucks out there can either agree or disagree we might get to the bottom of this.

I think of the films out of Canada, the musicians, etc...you guys are different than people in the states-and I have a hard time putting my finger on it but I know it's true, so when I watched the vid of Miriam, I kept reminding myself of that and not letting her delivery of the message get to me. She's Canadian. That's all.

God Bless Canada!

I agree, we are very different from Americans. And we do take some pride in that. What I appreciate about most Canadians is that they are guileless and are very good at making fun of themselves. Could be why many famous Comedians are Canadian?

The something you can't put your finger on is that we are so used to being the brunt of jokes by Americans that we just laugh and have our own jokes about why someone would want to act condescendingly to someone else.

It reminds me of the younger brother who was picked on by the older, bully brother but grows up to be better looking and have a much more likable personality.

Just being completely honest.

[pilot]

Thanks Astraya- I'm not just making this up-we agree, and I appreciate the fact that not all Canadians are the same, think kd lang and celine dion....k?

Gosh, as far as being rational and well adjusted-you guys are much further along, I think. If anyone from the US is condescending-please. We are a mess. I have longed to live in a stable society like Canada. People from here go to Europe and wear Maple leaf garb to avoid getting bashed. No kidding.

[astraya]

As far as Miriam's message goes, one point in particular resonated with me. I also feel a calling, not on such a large scale, to do my soul's work right now and spread the message that we have a choice in how the story turns out. Not to get swallowed up by fear but to plan for the future while keeping a happy and peaceful state of mind.

I happened to be of some German ancestry as well as Scottish and English. I have very blonde hair but green eyes. But most importantly I feel the messengers, guides etc. are going to be from an interesting time astrologically.

"The conjunction between Pluto and Uranus went on for much of the
1960s. Pluto was in Virgo most of 1958-71, and Uranus was in Virgo most of
1961-68. Given an 8° orb, the conjunction was in range most of 1962-1969,
though it was an out-of-sign conjunction during parts of 1968-69. With all this
overlap, there’s almost no such thing as a pure Uranus in Virgo or a pure Pluto in
Virgo type—they are merged energies, married to one another for better and for
worse.
There were a number of aspects between the outer planets during that
complex era. The slow-moving aspects from Pluto and Uranus to Neptune in
Scorpio and Chiron in Pisces form part of the intricate collective psychology of
the Sixties group. They, more than any ordinary astrological generation or
subgeneration, are striving to integrate the transpersonal energies of all the outer
planets at once, a Herculean task to pull off in any one lifetime! Despite the
inherent difficulties in their collective assignment, many of them do achieve this
integration to a depth and with a degree of integrity that utterly humbles me.
Their early years were spent in a climate of activism for the rights of
women, ethnic minorities, and various disadvantaged groups, as well as
significant developments in employment legislation. Having worked with them as
astrology clients for many years, I believe that many idealistic and advanced
souls were drawn into incarnation at that moment in time precisely because
there seemed to be so much hope for humanity."
from Donna Cunningham

This doesn't mean that everyone born during that time will feel a calling. But if you have inner planets (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars) tied into the outer-planet configurations you may feel moved to be a part of the momentum that is happening right now.

Also, I recently had a dream that I was taking on to a spaceship but throughout the whole dream I was very lucid and so I also resonated with her advice that we have a choice in "contact" situations.

.

[Carol]

Years ago I had a dear friend who used to talk about a neighbor who was taken and how they would float him down the stairs and through a solid door. When I first heard this story I thought her neighbor was a nutter and did not want to hear any more. The reality of the situation was more then I was prepared to handle and the thought of something/someone/alien having that amount of control over one terrified me. This was many, many years ago.

Then I had a client come who was an abductee. I really knew nothing on how to work with someone who was being taken and began to read up on everything I could get my hands on. This client had all of the posttraumatic stress symptoms of someone who had clearly gone through emotional trauma.

Through my work with her I began to understand the nature of what it meant to be taken and used for genetic alien hybridization program.

During the past 10 years I've since had contact with numerous contactees of one sort or another. What I observed is that they tended to fall into two groups; those who were taken against their will and often had their memories suppressed; and those who were invited and had almost total recall of their experiences.

I've even met people who claim to be alien hybrids and some who are star seeds. I've been fortunate to talk with Alex Collier, Paola Harris, Victoria Lindquist and many others who are in the midst of this unusual circumstance.

It took me years to accept that aliens are real. Years. It took years to investigate the information that is out there and digest what this means to me on a personal level.

What is valuable about Miriam's interview is that each person has an opportunity to see just how far he or she are from a truth that is much bigger then all of us. If one were to think of the ocean, some folks would be far out in the distant horizon. Others would be bobbing up in down in the swells as the water prepares to move toward the shoreline. Fewer people would be riding the crest of the wave like a surfer shooting the unfurling curl, and fewer yet would be in splashing in the foam bubbling upon the sandy shore.

And then there are those folks who are like Miriam. These are the visionaries who are the eagles riding the air currents high above us sharing their vision of what they have seen above and below.

We are honored to have such gifted trailblazers guiding us to our birthright. After all, aren’t we made from the stuff of the stars? Don’t you think it’s time we drop our fear like the heavy mantle that it is and walk freely into the light? Don’t you think it is time for us to accept that our star brothers and sisters are real and just waiting for us to find our way to them…. and to welcome them?

This is our gift from Miriam, Alex Collier and the others who have seen, touched and been with these beings. They are the witnesses. They are here to remind us that we are much more then we could possibly imagine. They are also here to encourage us to claim our birthright and walk among those who would have us as the brothers and sisters that we already are.

Not too long ago I too had an experience that altered my perception regarding aliens. From that experience it became clear to me that aliens are also on a spiritual path just as we are and all of us take this journey in our own unique way.

I have also recently read unpublished reports from the Vatican and elsewhere. Aliens are real. They’re here. It’s time to recognize this reality and accept it.

Next, it’s time to really sit down and keep listening to Miriam’s interview until new levels of understanding emerge. It’s time to really move beyond fear and be free.

[milk and honey]

Originally Posted by Carol

Then I had a client come who was an abductee. I really knew nothing on how to work with someone who was being taken and began to read up on everything I could get my hands on. This client had all of the posttraumatic stress symptoms of someone who had clearly gone through emotional trauma.

... What i've observed is that they (the contactees) tend to form into two groups; those who were taken against their will and often had their memories supressed; and those who were invited and had almost total recal of their experiences

A spiritually oriented being will never abduct or traumatise a human being. The true spiritual teachers of humanity simply don't work like that. In fact, if a person is contacted by a true spiritual adept they have power to give spiritual comfort and put the person at ease.

I don't accept that ANY of these 'alien' abductors are positively motivated, even those who bring positive messages to humanity. Think of the way presidents wrap themselves in the flag and spout the rhetoric of freedom and peace. Think of the way the catholic church hid behind Jesus. So a message itself is not always a reliable indicator of motive and agenda.

Originally Posted by Carol

We are honored to have such gifted trailblazers guiding us to our birthright. After all, aren’t we made from the stuff of the stars? Don’t you think it’s time we drop our fear like the heavy mantle that it is and walk freely into the light? Don’t you think it is time for us to accept that our star brothers and sisters are real and just waiting for us to find our way to them…. and to welcome them?

Yes it's time to drop our fear and walk into the light but not without our spiritual discernment. Without our internal BS meter we could be walking straight into the same old traps in a different wrapper. The cautionary voices should not be ignored.

Yes aliens are real but their UFOs and metaphiysical messages and prophecies do not magically identify them as the true spiritual teachers of humanity. We have learnt the hard way that it takes more than spiritual rhetoric and external displays of power to define the good guys in this world -- and the next.

Spiritually oriented beings are NOT defined by psychic and technological powers and they do NOT need 'UFOs" to prove their credentials as our spiritual teachers. Except for the "space brother saviors" themselves (most of whom i believe are terrestrial) who can safely say that the UFOs, their occupants' messages and their psychic displays are reliable credentials of spirituality?

Basically, i don't accept them at face value and emotional appeals for me to "claim my birth right" (by embracing ETs) cannot convince me to ignore my intuition, experience and research.

Read this essay for one excellent analysis of the alien presence:

http://montalk.net/notes/overlooked-...alien-presence

Originally Posted by Carol

I have also recently read unpublished reports from the Vatican and elsewhere. Aliens are real. They’re here. It’s time to recognize this reality and accept it.

Not many of us would dissagree that aliens are real and are here but that doesn't mean we must accept them. I believe they've been living here for ages and that terrestrial forces are also very actively impersonating them and working hand in glove with them. I don't accept that any of these are positively oriented.

The real spiritual brotherhood is not flaunting space craft technology as a badge of spiritual ID and IMO no-one of any credibility is proclaiming an external intervention by "space brothers'" as even part of the answer to global problems.

Originally Posted by Carol

Next, it’s time to really sit down and keep listening to Miriam’s interview until new levels of understanding emerge. It’s time to really move beyond fear and be free.

I don't believe Miriam Delicado. Too many red flags in content and presentation. Some have already been mentioned and i've said enough. But just one thing; ALL the synchronicities relating to the Hopi could easily have been pre-concieved and pre-fabricated by the "blondes" who-ever they are.

It is true that we will only be free when we have moved beyond fear, but we must also move beyond spiritual blindness and gullibility. I am a believer in community but i hope in our communities we are not breaking one shackle to clamp another. History is replete with examples of doing just that; one after another and each new promise has left a very sour taste in the mouth.

These great "inevitable" waves of history are always accompanied by gross deciet and euphoria which passes for freedom and truth. "Bread and Land" for the communists... "God and country" for the roman church... "Peace" for the neo-cons... and "Peace, Unity, One World" for us?

For us, peace and oneness is our dream. But for them it is an awful scheme. The schemers always seek to subvert the dreamers to a pre-plan which appeals to our decency. They play our souls' deep longing like a violin.

[Alysse]

I don't know who you are, but we're on the same page.

Originally Posted by milk and honey

A spiritually oriented being will never abduct or traumatise a human being. The true spiritual teachers of humanity simply don't work like that. In fact, if a person is contacted by a true spiritual adept they have power to give spiritual comfort and put the person at ease.

I don't accept that ANY of these 'alien' abductors are positively motivated, even those who bring positive messages to humanity. Think of the way presidents wrap themselves in the flag and spout the rhetoric of freedom and peace. Think of the way the catholic church hid behind Jesus. So a message itself is not always a reliable indicator of motive and agenda.


Yes it's time to drop our fear and walk into the light but not without our spiritual discernment. Without our internal BS meter we could be walking straight into the same old traps in a different wrapper. The cautionary voices should not be ignored.

Yes aliens are real but their UFOs and metaphiysical messages and prophecies do not magically identify them as the true spiritual teachers of humanity. We have learnt the hard way that it takes more than spiritual rhetoric and external displays of power to define the good guys in this world -- and the next.

Spiritually oriented beings are NOT defined by psychic and technological powers and they do NOT need 'UFOs" to prove their credentials as our spiritual teachers. Except for the "space brother saviors" themselves (most of whom i believe are terrestrial) who can safely say that the UFOs, their occupants' messages and their psychic displays are reliable credentials of spirituality?

Basically, i don't accept them at face value and emotional appeals for me to "claim my birth right" (by embracing ETs) cannot convince me to ignore my intuition, experience and research.

Read this essay for one excellent analysis of the alien presence:

http://montalk.net/notes/overlooked-...alien-presence


Not many of us would dissagree that aliens are real and are here but that doesn't mean we must accept them. I believe they've been living here for ages and that terrestrial forces are also very actively impersonating them and working hand in glove with them. I don't accept that any of these are positively oriented.

The real spiritual brotherhood is not flaunting space craft technology as a badge of spiritual ID and IMO no-one of any credibility is proclaiming an external intervention by "space brothers'" as even part of the answer to global problems.


I don't believe Miriam Delicado. Too many red flags in content and presentation. Some have already been mentioned and i've said enough. But just one thing; ALL the synchronicities relating to the Hopi could easily have been pre-concieved and pre-fabricated by the "blondes" who-ever they are.

It is true that we will only be free when we have moved beyond fear, but we must also move beyond spiritual blindness and gullibility. I am a believer in community but i hope in our communities we are not breaking one shackle to clamp another. History is replete with examples of doing just that; one after another and each new promise has left a very sour taste in the mouth.

These great "inevitable" waves of history are always accompanied by gross deciet and euphoria which passes for freedom and truth. "Bread and Land" for the communists... "God and country" for the roman church... "Peace" for the neo-cons... and "Peace, Unity, One World" for us?

For us, peace and oneness is our dream. But for them it is an awful scheme. The schemers always seek to subvert the dreamers to a pre-plan which appeals to our decency. They play our souls' deep longing like a violin.

[rainman]

Yes, that is just what I've mentioned yesterday in my post.
This Carol "deity" is trying VERY HARD to sound spiritual and uber-smart, maybe she's preparing a book or two too?!

I'm sorry, but am I the only one here who is beginning to feel some sort of attempted indoctrination by the moderators and maybe "owners" of this site/forum?
I really thought this site supposed to be free and friendly place, but as days go by, some "higher leveled" members are obviously much more than "moderators" here...
(BTW, I still can't find the greatness of Miriam Delicado, help, anyone?)

[Racsouran]

Originally Posted by rainman

Yes, that is just what I've mentioned yesterday in my post.
This Carol "deity" is trying VERY HARD to sound spiritual and uber-smart, maybe she's preparing a book or two too?!

I'm sorry, but am I the only one here who is beginning to feel some sort of attempted indoctrination by the moderators and maybe "owners" of this site/forum?
I really thought this site supposed to be free and friendly place, but as days go by, some "higher leveled" members are obviously much more than "moderators" here...

Carol "deity".... man....

indoctrination is everywhere, if we refuse we are the bad ones, works that childishly.

[googleboy]

Originally Posted by milk and honey

a spiritually oriented being will never abduct or traumatise a human being. The true spiritual teachers of humanity simply don't work like that. In fact, if a person is contacted by a true spiritual adept they have power to give spiritual comfort and put the person at ease.

.. r > e > s > p > e > c >t !!!

[pilot]

Originally Posted by spymonk

pilot....are you for real....

sure, kinda...

[pilot]

Originally Posted by astraya

As far as Miriam's message goes, one point in particular resonated with me. I also feel a calling, not on such a large scale, to do my soul's work right now and spread the message that we have a choice in how the story turns out. Not to get swallowed up by fear but to plan for the future while keeping a happy and peaceful state of mind.

I happened to be of some German ancestry as well as Scottish and English. I have very blonde hair but green eyes. But most importantly I feel the messengers, guides etc. are going to be from an interesting time astrologically.

"The conjunction between Pluto and Uranus went on for much of the
1960s. Pluto was in Virgo most of 1958-71, and Uranus was in Virgo most of
1961-68. Given an 8° orb, the conjunction was in range most of 1962-1969,
though it was an out-of-sign conjunction during parts of 1968-69. With all this
overlap, there’s almost no such thing as a pure Uranus in Virgo or a pure Pluto in
Virgo type—they are merged energies, married to one another for better and for
worse.
There were a number of aspects between the outer planets during that
complex era. The slow-moving aspects from Pluto and Uranus to Neptune in
Scorpio and Chiron in Pisces form part of the intricate collective psychology of
the Sixties group. They, more than any ordinary astrological generation or
subgeneration, are striving to integrate the transpersonal energies of all the outer
planets at once, a Herculean task to pull off in any one lifetime! Despite the
inherent difficulties in their collective assignment, many of them do achieve this
integration to a depth and with a degree of integrity that utterly humbles me.
Their early years were spent in a climate of activism for the rights of
women, ethnic minorities, and various disadvantaged groups, as well as
significant developments in employment legislation. Having worked with them as
astrology clients for many years, I believe that many idealistic and advanced
souls were drawn into incarnation at that moment in time precisely because
there seemed to be so much hope for humanity."
from Donna Cunningham

This doesn't mean that everyone born during that time will feel a calling. But if you have inner planets (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars) tied into the outer-planet configurations you may feel moved to be a part of the momentum that is happening right now.

Also, I recently had a dream that I was taking on to a spaceship but throughout the whole dream I was very lucid and so I also resonated with her advice that we have a choice in "contact" situations.

This is really interesting astraya, how do you determine if you have inner planets tied in with outer planet configurations? A basic chart can tell you that?

Thanks